Hello, I was searching for a leather case for my Kaiser for two months now.
Here is what I expected from my case :
1) - I wanted my screen protected with something hard.
2) - the case should let me answer the phone without removing anything.
3) - it should let me open the keyboard without removing the whole case.
4) - I didn't want any plastic thing covering my keyboard once the keyboard is opened.
And I found the perfect case that match my wishes !
Well, I said "perfect" ? Let's see ...
The case is the Designio leather case, here it is :
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Lets' check if it really match my wishes ...
1) - the protective "door" for the screen is really hard, yes, it will really protect my screen. Also, the closure of the door is very good : there is a magnet in the leather case, so the door open/close very easily and remains closed in the pocket (attracted by the magnet). So this protective "door" for the screen is a very good point !
2) - you can easily answer the phone while the case is closed. When your phone rings, nothing to do except pushing the green button. All the buttons around the pad still have a good access with this case. New good point !
3) & 4) - to open the keyboard, I need, this time, to remove the whole upper side of the case. I didn't expected something better, I think we just can't do anything better than this. The keyboard opens very easily here again, the leather is very well adjusted, nothing touch the screen while you let it slide to see the keyboard. Once the keyboard is opened, nothing covers it so the keys are very easy to access and keep their original typing comfort. Again, good point !
But all isn't good ... Now the bad points ...
- When you power off your device, if the upper side of the case is opened, while pressing the power button the Kaiser "pop up" from case, it's very dangerous, it could just drop from the case. So you need to take your Kaiser in both hands to power it off, or close the upper side of the case before.
- Some buttons are a little hard to access. The side "OK" button is partially covered (just a little) by the leather. So it's sometimes hard to press it.
- The hole made for the stylus should be in a higher position. So it is also hard to remove the stylus. The good side of this is that it will now be harder to lose the stylus !
- The hole made for the power button is not big enough, you need to press the hole very strong to touch the button, or you can use your nail as the button access will then be easier, but I hate this.
- The size : to have two leather layers on the screen is very protective but takes of course more room in your pocket. I think the Kaiser, in this case, is about 1cm bigger (from the side view). I will let people convert it into inches if they need !
- Last but not least : I have a problem with my case, the first cover of the screen (the one around the screen, not the "door" wich covers the whole screen) is not well made. The button (in french we say "pressure button", I don't know what's the english word for this) wich let it close is not at the right place. So when I close it, it's a little down, covering a little part of my screen (the bottom right). It's not a very big issue because it's only covering a very little part the screen (I'd say about 2mm), but this sucks anyway. If only they had put this button just 1 mm higher, the protective leather part would perfectly fit the screen. These days, I'm focusing on this problem and it makes me angry !
Is this problem specific to my case ? I'm not sure ... When I look at some shots of this case on the web, sometimes I can see the same problem on the commercial shot ! There may be a way to fix this problem, I'm working on that, but I don't want to cut the leather, that's the hard thing to think about.
Conclusion :
This case does its job : to protect your Kaiser. I have no doubt about this, the only thing wich is not covered is the pad and its buttons. Some buttons should have a better access, but they are still accessible.
The finish is very good, it could be a high price product ...
I think it's worth the price, of course depending on where you buy it. I bought mine in a Hong Kong shop on Ebay. The price was about 15€, shipping included. I waited for it for 3 weeks, so be patient !
I just hope for you, if you buy it, that you will not have the issue I had with the "pressure button" wich is not at the exact place it should be... Just one millimeter higher and it would just be perfect !!!
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Let me start off, I've got to say that the Touch HD is an awesome bit of kit. There's just 1 thing I don't like about it and that's the way the stylus is held in. I don't think it's held securely enough, a couple of times I have pulled the phone out of the pouch and the stylus has also managed to come out.
there is nothing that i don't like about the blackstone.....
only one thing the processor could be 5000 GHZ .......
Its not something i hate.. but its the only downside i find compared to the iPhone.. multitouch.. but then again... i knew it didnt have one.. and MY GOD this kicks iphones ass!
cheers!
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Let me start off, I've got to say that the Touch HD is an awesome bit of kit. There's just 1 thing I don't like about it and that's the way the stylus is held in. I don't think it's held securely enough, a couple of times I have pulled the phone out of the pouch and the stylus has also managed to come out.
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i have the same, i already lost 1 stylus because of it
Cbxu said:
i have the same, i already lost 1 stylus because of it
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i dont mind losing the stylus.. i dont use it anyways
volume keys
give me the wheel back from the m3100 (hermes) damn site more usable!
menu's in WM6
Give us the menu's from WM6 instead of having to press several icons to get to the same item.
Direct to something is better than fiddling and wasting time!
The phone is the greatest, my only complaint is that it was a shock coming from the diamond as the screen on the diamond is excellent, the colors are really rich and the blacks are black where as the HD is a beautiful screen but a wee bit washed out.
After using the HD for a week now I am really happy with everything, even the screen as long as I don't look at the Diamond.
Things You Don't Like About The Touch HD
No camera bottom
Volume bottoms is to sensitive
Back panel squirks
But i still love the phone
HTC
That HTC spent a little more time, to iron out small issue's - instead of leaving it to dedicated peeps on the forum, like this....
Had better customer support as currently - discusting!
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Give us the menu's from WM6 instead of having to press several icons to get to the same item.
Direct to something is better than fiddling and wasting time!
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bro remember wm is highly customizable! i use QuickMenu you should check it out!
http://www.alensw.com/attachment/QuickMenu_en_2.7.rar
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is it....
foolproof????
thats a kinda objective question
There hasn't been a phone made that is perfect for everybody.
Things I don't like about the touch HD
Video recording, only QVGA
Back cover, should be smooth without that metal thing
The reset button inside the cover, should be outside
The headphones that came with it are useless, to big to fit my ears
When recording calls our voice gets recorded very loud and the other person voice very quiet
Wifi is very bad, receives low signal and disconnects easily
No good video player with full hardware acceleration
The other things are great
mmm!
some are very close....
recording calls...
there has been quite alot of talk re the recording of calls....
does anyone have any really good positive recommendations????
PJMDS said:
Things I don't like about the touch HD
Video recording, only QVGA
Back cover, should be smooth without that metal thing
The reset button inside the cover, should be outside
The headphones that came with it are useless, to big to fit my ears
When recording calls our voice gets recorded very loud and the other person voice very quiet
Wifi is very bad, receives low signal and disconnects easily
No good video player with full hardware acceleration
The other things are great
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i dont agree with the WIFI.. here it works great, i recommend you set it to Best Performance setting when you have a low signal
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i dont agree with the WIFI.. here it works great, i recommend you set it to Best Performance setting when you have a low signal
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Yes I did that but it doesn't work fine like my ETEN M700 did, I was using one FONERA www.fon.com with one 10db omni directional antenna as my home hotspot, it sends 2 SSIDs, the HD doesn't like it and disconnects, so I'm now using the wireless of other of my routers, it's one linksys WRT54GL, it doesn't have the same high range but it works.
What I don't like are:
Stylus comes out when removing from pouch.
Key buttons too small on keyboards resulting in constant incorrect key presses.
Takes too long to go back to previous screen after adjusting volume keys.
When using alphabet scroller on right edge on Contacts screen and you scroll to say 'S', the first contact beginning with S appears at the bottom of the screen instead of at the top of the screen.
Slow redraw rate of icons everytime you go to builtin programs list.
Today i noticed a wierd ticking noise when shaking my phone . It's not that loud , it's around the phone-speaker and i suspect some kind of spring from the slide , because when i hold the phone firmly in the speaker area the noise dissapears , also when sliding the screen(during the slide. when completly opened it reappears) the noise deissapear , and when i push a bit the screen in the direction that it is (forcing it to stay closed or open).
Does anyone else has this problem ? Because i don't thing that warranty will consider this as a problem , and change my phone.
The phone is not having any hardware problems , but the ticking noise just annoys me .
I believe this is just the slide mechanism.
What are you doing shaking your phone anyway?
Hmm I think I found this problem discussed b4.
The sound came from some part under the optical pad, and as I know, every X1 is.
a normal sound coming from the sliding mechanism.
please check my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457777
anaadoul said:
a normal sound coming from the sliding mechanism.
please check my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457777
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Yes we all hear it, it is normal, not something broken or loose.
thanks for sharing , i also suspected the slide mecanism , but i didn't know it this sound is normal . now i feel better knowing that there is nothing wrong with my phone , but is still pretty iritating , hearing it sometimes when using the phone (voice call)
LOL=) It's the pen!
If the sound originates from the top of the phone, most definitely it's the camera; more specifically the auto focus mechanism. From what I read here on XDA, it would seem that it's not a Q.C. problem and it's normal for it to "rattle", "click", "tick" or whatever else you can make sense of it.
I've had a few devices from just about every manufacturer, and I've noticed the sound you're describing in about 30% of my devices. Some manufacturers are worse than others - like Motorola - but I've never seen a link between the "rattle" and phone malfunction. In my opinion, it's perfectly normal - best not to think about it
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thanks for sharing , i also suspected the slide mecanism , but i didn't know it this sound is normal . now i feel better knowing that there is nothing wrong with my phone , but is still pretty iritating , hearing it sometimes when using the phone (voice call)
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don't worry you will forget it's even there so soon
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If the sound originates from the top of the phone, most definitely it's the camera; more specifically the auto focus mechanism. From what I read here on XDA, it would seem that it's not a Q.C. problem and it's normal for it to "rattle", "click", "tick" or whatever else you can make sense of it.
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what i was hearing was the sliding mechanism, if you hold the 2 parts (bottom and top) and press them (the gap between them will become almost zero) the sound will disappear
oakleaf said:
LOL=) It's the pen!
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i don't think so, the pen is in a fixed location, and it exactly fits there so i don't think it can move in the compartment.
Hi,
I also have this ticking noise, and has some one posted before, I found out it comes from small wheels between the screen and keyboard of the sliding mechanism.
I post here some pics that show them:
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The two wheels in each side on back of the screen.
One wheel in more detail:
These wheels I believe they should run on the sides of the keyboard as I show on next picture.
I think the problem is that this wheels are loose and flying in spite of running on top of the keyboard. I also note that my screen is not totally stable, specially when open, and is a bit loose in relation to the X1 body.
I believe that this wheels should be there for stabilizing the screen and to give a smoother sliding effect, which I find not very the case of my X1.
I also think it's not normal to put wheels that are never grounded (as far as I can see on my X1) and only are there for making noise.
An easy way to check and patch the problem is to put two or three slices of paper stacked over the sides of the keyboard (on the red lines of last picture). In this way you fill the gap between the wheels and the keyboard body and the noise will stop. Besides the slide is smoother and screen is more stable.
I think this is a major fabrication issue, because apparently, at least I couldn't find anyone that doesn't have this problem.
Anyone doesn't have this issue on X1?
I believe that som X1's have the wheelrattle, but not all that rattle are because of the wheels.
There's an example on how my phone sounds after the second repair of the batterycompartment crack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482022
Guys!
Its just the sound of the sort-of-free volume/camera buttons
If you just touch both during shacking, you will make sure that there is no tick sound
I guess
nu it's the wheels guiding the screen. if you press the screen up and down , you will see that the noise dissapears. it's as clear as possible explained in the pictures above
zzone said:
nu it's the wheels guiding the screen. if you press the screen up and down , you will see that the noise dissapears. it's as clear as possible explained in the pictures above
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My noise does not dissappear when putting pressure on the wheels..
Listen to my X1 rattle here and see if you have the same rattle.
When I press the touch screen of my Touch HD, it bends. It's like there is a top layer on the screen that can bend. there is quite a lot of travel and this seems very weird, the travel is mainly at the middle of the screen.
I'm coming from the Touch Diamond where it felt like the entire touch screen is made out of glass and can not bend at all.
Is this normal ?
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can you post some pictures?
Mine bends like >0.1 mm.
Now that you mention it, it bends a lot more than the qtek s200 that I had.
Do you have any pressure sensitivity problem?
If not I think it's normal.
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Mine bends like >0.1 mm.
Now that you mention it, it bends a lot more than the qtek s200 that I had.
Do you have any pressure sensitivity problem?
If not I think it's normal.
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agreed, this is normal. it isnt glass
my opinion is that is normal
thing about the large surface of the screen, the thin layers that it is made of and the fact that there is nothing on the back to prevent the bending
i belive even if it was made of steel the bending would be there
Thanks guys.
I can't post pics because the effect is too minimal to be seen. I don't seem to have major pressure sensitivity issues, maybe something minimal, especially at the middle of the screen, this was more obvious when aligning the screen, the X at the center took a few clicks to register... but in normal usage it seems to be fine.
As far as I know the HD has a resistive touch screen like most touch screen phones do. If you search for the wiki on touch screens you'll see that the screen is supposed to bend very slightly. That's how it works.
This is normal
My first set bend quite obviously and i did a 1-to-1 exchange. The second set is slightly better thou at certain areas, it bends a bit more than the rest. I find this kinda annoying as why the diamond and pro doesn't bend when both utilizes resistive screen too? Some other phones like the omnia that utilizes resistive screen don't bend either. Just a thought.
On smaller screens it's less noticeable, that's all.
It's just a resistive touchscreen feature.
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gaelynx said:
It's just a resistive touchscreen feature.
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But there is a difference wheter you are touching in the center or in the corner area. Its not really a problem, but its noticable.
gaelynx said:
It's just a resistive touchscreen feature.
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As they say a picture is worth a thousand words...
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As they say a picture is worth a thousand words...
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Mine only bends in the lower center but it is noticeable and very annoying. Also i need to press with pressure on screen to make make selection needed. It might be correct that the screen resolution is great but i feel sorry for that cheap type of screens installed.
If you need to press more on that area then it's not normal, my screen doesn't seem to bend at all, and I don't need to put more force in the center to "click"
So should I ask for replacement ? I feel like pressing on 2 layer screen when taping. the first layer bends to touch the second.
I contacted the dealer, They took a look at the device and told me that they can do nothing as long as the screen is fully fonctional. Actually it is really annoying to feel the screen bending when u press on it with ur thumb. I wish I didnt buy that device....
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So should I ask for replacement ? I feel like pressing on 2 layer screen when taping. the first layer bends to touch the second.
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i noticed the same thing after few days of having my HD....when touching the center of the screen i can feel the two layers more than in the edges...but i never feel the need to press harder there.....
finally, when i use the phone not thinking about that, i really doesn´t notice that at all...so it's just a mental thing for me ...
Xeon said:
I contacted the dealer, They took a look at the device and told me that they can do nothing as long as the screen is fully fonctional. Actually it is really annoying to feel the screen bending when u press on it with ur thumb. I wish I didnt buy that device....
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It is normal. The bending is what makes that type of screen work.
It happens in all the Touch HD's since the screen is not capacitive (like the one in iPhone) but resistive (it is not glass but kind of plastic that is very easy to scratch). It feels the pressure and not the "touch".
So it has to bend...
For me it is the worst thing about Touch HD and all the windows mobile devices: the fact of using a much cheaper resistive screen (and with much less sensivity) instead of a capacitive one...
The only advantage is that it is possible to use the stylus. For me it would be MUCH better with a capacitive touch screen. But since it uses windows mobile, the device is always "stylus dependent" so a capacitive touch screen would make some functions (that require the stylus) very hard to use.
So if you want a capacitive touch screen buy an iphone or an android device. Those were made from the beggining to use with the finger. Windows mobile was made to use with the stylus and now there are some improvements (some kind of "mask" like touchflo 3D) that make possible to use the finger. But unhappyly it will always require the stylus for some functions.
So I recently acquired an hd2 I worked on for someone some time ago to put android on. They tell me that after they took a shower the screen stopped responding to touch.
Looking at it closely, it indeed does not respond to touch, but the screen also randomly will come on.
This leads me to believe that the hardware buttons are stuck and thus will not let the screen be touched. Either the volume buttons or the front ones.
What is your opinion on this?
Which is more likely that needs replacing?
could be front buttons sticking as had this on one of our HD2s
Normally it is related to digitizer ribbon (complete digitizer being the fix) & its proximity to buttons is why button pressing affects it.
Do some searches on keywords for this issue as a lot has been covered on this over the last 1yr+
I've done some research already as for the buttons sticking, but in all the post I read these people still had use of their screens. While in this case the screen isnt usable.
It's well within my ability to replace the digitizer, despite needing to solder. So it's not a huge issue if I need to replace that.
But I would rather it be the front buttons aha.
Is there any way to test to see if it's the buttons?
*and on a side note, while taking it apart somehow one of the buttons on the volume rocker came off. I'm pretty sure I just need to stick it back on tho, since it doesn't seem to have any real physical connection aside from when it pressed down.
I done the button board as button cap was sticking & easily diagnosed.
Digitizer is most likely culprit ...
In regards to Volume, if you are referring to the very small caps that are on the button board then yes you need to stick it back but alignment is critical or volume key will not push it well or feel weak.
Button boards are rubbish design concept on HD2, compare it to a Desire G5 or 9yr old Magician & I have no idea how they ended up going down the route they did ...
Thanks for the awesome advice. Very helpful.
What do you think could be causing the screen to randomly turn on then?
Mmm is the screen dead to touch after turning on via end key.
Can you turn on via other key & digitizer responds ?
Does any of the button board keys (especially end) feel very weak to press or like the cap is stuck down or not lifting as well as should.
Same principal is used on button board as volume key with small concave caps & they can cause issues, certainly worth investigating & checking out button board before committing any purchases.
Also take your time and make every effort to assemble well & with care as minor glitch results in useless junk & wasted money ...
The digitizer doesnt work right after it's turned on by using the end button. It's completely unresponsive.
The only button that seem to be a tad loose is the windows button.
The digitizer also did stop working after the previous owner had it playing music in the bathroom. I'm thinking the moisture from the steam caused this.
So after much fiddling and lurking around the internet I found this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213809
which didn't seem to have much info. Just said to press VERY hard on the power button. I did it for "why the hell not" sake, and it worked!! Though intermittently.
I'm quite sure this proves the hardware buttons are going bad, so I will be purchasing a new button strip to put in.
Now I have to figure out how to reflash winmo 6.5 so that I can use a sim-unlock code.
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I'm quite sure this proves the hardware buttons are going bad, so I will be purchasing a new button strip to put in.
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Well, I think is quite the opposite: your touchscreen is the problem, not the buttons strip!!
Why is that?
the main flex for digitizer runs above & wraps into the panel just above power button.
pressure & movement transfers to this cable improving or worsening the contact of the flex & thus its status of function.
Your problem is more likely digi flex but button board is always wroth checking as have fixed digi issue via button flex once before.
Check everything & assume nothing but be advised digi flex is odds-on favourite.
Your sim unlock code may accept fine while on android, many Android & W7 ROMs allow unlock via code without issue.
Wouldn't I be able to just make the connection better then? or is this just damage to the actual flex cable?
Either damage to flex in bend around lcd or actually with flex feed join to digi.
Not really serviceable, replacement digi come with flex & flex alone is not replaceable.
Alright. I'll trust an experienced user on the hd2 over my guesses aha. I'll be ordering the new digitizer and let you all know how it goes once its done.
Thanks all!
So I ended up replacing the digitizer to fix the problem. I have to say I'm quite happy with the result.
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I think the rom causes the wifi radio to work realllyyyy horribly.
Not bad, what you done to get the grey silver look on digi edge ?
Wifi (if weak signal) could antenna/coax poor connector under rear cover but worth trying another rom or kernel before getting the t5 out
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Not bad, what you done to get the grey silver look on digi edge ?
Wifi (if weak signal) could antenna/coax poor connector under rear cover but worth trying another rom or kernel before getting the t5 out
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That looks really cool. I checked ebay first thing, and it is available
http://www.ebay.com/itm/replacement...ltDomain_0&hash=item2c653c5ed9#ht_1107wt_1399
Just search "hd2 white digitizer"
Hi all, had to post coz this produced such an excellent result for me. I'd had the same trouble many of us have had with screen still working in call leading to random button pressing or holding the phone away from ur ear and people not being able to hear u. I'd used the Proximity recalibrator and it worked at first but I had to keep decreasing the high/low values till it was right down to 3 on low 4 on high and even with this the screen only turned off intermittently. So search on YouTube for a disassembly video and watch it, take ur battery, sd and sim card out, pop out ur GPS antenna take out the 5 screws, take out ur volume button and take care of the volume button PCB as u take the case off. Clean the phone with a fine dry brush all round the sensor, ear speaker and front speaker grill. Before u put it back together gently and carefully bend the GPS contacts out a little to get better contact with the antenna. I put it back together and my proximity sensor is like new! I had to adjust Proximity calibrator to 28 low/ 29 high. Our DHD's are getting old now and I had plenty of crud in mine, bending the GPS contacts out has also produced excellent results with a far quicker fix even indoors. So my DHD will live on for a while longer, hope this helps u too.
Yep i do agree that this is a great fix, having done this myself.
Just make sure before doing anything to your DHD you set yourself up so you know which screws go where after you remove them. Also Lift the Sticker with the IMEI number on carefully if you rip it off forcefully you'll snap the volume ribbon.
It does work it also allows you to clean the speakers too and the camera len too.
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Hi all, had to post coz this produced such an excellent result for me. I'd had the same trouble many of us have had with screen still working in call leading to random button pressing or holding the phone away from ur ear and people not being able to hear u. I'd used the Proximity recalibrator and it worked at first but I had to keep decreasing the high/low values till it was right down to 3 on low 4 on high and even with this the screen only turned off intermittently. So search on YouTube for a disassembly video and watch it, take ur battery, sd and sim card out, pop out ur GPS antenna take out the 5 screws, take out ur volume button and take care of the volume button PCB as u take the case off. Clean the phone with a fine dry brush all round the sensor, ear speaker and front speaker grill. Before u put it back together gently and carefully bend the GPS contacts out a little to get better contact with the antenna. I put it back together and my proximity sensor is like new! I had to adjust Proximity calibrator to 28 low/ 29 high. Our DHD's are getting old now and I had plenty of crud in mine, bending the GPS contacts out has also produced excellent results with a far quicker fix even indoors. So my DHD will live on for a while longer, hope this helps u too.
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I agree, i had troubles with prox. sensor too. So cleaning front speaker grill with dry toothbrush helped. Then i blow through with compressor and proximity sensor works like new.
fejkus said:
Then i blow through with compressor and proximity sensor works like new.
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you're almost right, but I have blue one ...