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TMC ist a nice thing for navigation-software to react automaticly on current traffic-situations. Most of the software products use this feature.
For this a TMC-receiver must be implemented in the GPS-receiver. The Trinity and other likely PDA´s have it not.
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
Theoreticaly this data can be used for programming a "software-TMC". This could be realise the using of different data-sources for every navigation-software.
I think about using or re-programming the software-com-port in WM5 or higher (start/settings/system/extern gps) which maps the hardware-port com2: to GPD1: by default (other combinations are possible!)
The Point is now:
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How to integrate the traffic-data into the data-stream of the software-com-port GPD1: (or any equivalent port)
This is only an idea...
Oh yes, before i forget:
Answers contents "Who wants this?", "Using of TMC is free and mobile-internet cost money!" are not wanted. Please forgive, but thats not what i want to hear. I know this fact!
But the using of mobile-internet becomes more cheaper and many users have mobile-data-flatrates or volume-packages! Mobile-Internet is growing more and more!
PSlease forgive my maybe "strange" englisch, but I write text in englisch not very often!
pps:maybe that there exists an software that could do the thing I wanted, but I searched in many forums and search-engines - nothing found...
Jassi_1975 said:
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
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That´s the point !
I use iGO. This and many other navigation-software has tmc implemented. Using of TMC is free.
I knew the feature of TomTom. TomTom go its own way in providing traffic-information by money. Route66 and Navigate are not my way - I personaly favorite iGO or navigon.
And: I don´t want to change my navi-software.
My endeavor is to use every traffic-information with every software for free!
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
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You sure about Route 66? I've been using Route 66 Navigate 7 for several years, and I could never get traffic to work. I ended up switching to CoPilot Live 7.
Besides the programming of the tool as such I'd expect you'll run into the following issues:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Hence I think this is gonna be a very difficult task, though I definitely like the idea!
Cheers,
Markus.
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
nother said:
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
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Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
Christian72D said:
Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
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That is not exactly correct.
While you can't use a TMC receiver with Tomtom their online Traffic Service provides just those data.
If I got it correctly that's just the bit Jassi_1975 wants to be replaced by a free of charge alternative.
Cheers,
Markus.
HobGoblin2006 said:
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
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Using Navigon I'm very interested aswell. Before Navigon I had Alturion and it worked great. Since Alturion stopped marketing I miss it. Navigon has the option TMC it only doesn't work with GPRS, just with a BT mouse. Having a Kaiser I find it ridiculous buying an extra BT mouse only for TMC (I have a flat free GPRS abo). Being a noob I have to rely on the experts on the forum, so please have a look
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
obermuem said:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
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That´s right, there are some services in html from where we could free collect the traffic-informations. Maybe it´s usefull to plan an "ONLINE-Collector" or so ...
But think about:
http://www.verkehrsinfos.de
http://mobil.verkehrsinfos.de
obermuem said:
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
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I don´t want to reprogramm/hack any Routing Software - I want to reprogramm (or hack) the given "port-switching" in Windows-Mobile!
So ANY Software which uses TMC can use ANY provided traffic-information. Ok any information we can collect.
btje said:
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
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This is what I want - the local-data-file is needed, sure
Great idea! There are plenty of free sites with traffic info available, so if you can get this to work it would be awesome. I'd love to test it if you ever get it going. Good luck!
When you think further, it would be possible, that the programm runs in backround an updates every 5 Minutes, perhabs, so you would be able to have the latest traffic messages on your device!
I was looking for the same thing as I used MIO Map. I gave up and now I'm using Garmin Mobile XT which uses I-net and downloads realtime traffic. I don't have any idea how it does it though. Hopefully someone can come up with a solution!
Chris
I don't thing that this is really a big problem to make, the only programm is to someone to do this!
Add me on to the list of people wanting this solution. My personal favourite navigation software is IGo, and ONLY reason I sometimes switch over to TomTom is because I have traffic subscription and it works. If it works with IGo, it would be bye-bye TomTom.
If someone comes up with a solution, i'm willing to donate/pay for it.
same here, if it's worldwide
i will also donate round about 10$ , what about you other guys?
Some devices have built in FM Radio with RDS. Why not use this feature for traffic info?
greetings
Hello,
Is there any free gps software for the touch cruise ? Like tom tom, but free ?
Google a bit .....
In my opinion iGO8 is the best right now.
Rgds,
Depends where you're located, if in the US/UK, Microsoft Live Search is free and a great app.
I'm located in France..
And IGO8 doesn't seem to be free
TorNaK said:
I'm located in France..
And IGO8 doesn't seem to be free
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Nowhere i mentioned it's for free ..... just Google, as far as i know there is not a GPS software for free downloading, even when it is there (like a Beta version), how about the maps ?
Rgds,
THOU SHALT NOT POST WAREZ!
cheers mate
People when I starst GPS in program Google navigator (using system gps settings) it's take about 5 min for the GPS start connection and showing position it's normal or what's wrong ?????
JAYmasta said:
it's take about 5 min for the GPS start connection and showing position it's normal or what's wrong ?????
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usually GPS takes few tens of seconds to fix, try using QuickGPS...
francescrm said:
Google a bit .....
In my opinion iGO8 is the best right now.
Rgds,
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Just ordered mine, please tell me more about your experince...
code010101 said:
usually GPS takes few tens of seconds to fix, try using QuickGPS...
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QuickGPS data seem to go old quite fast, I update it just before going somewhere to make sure. Bad experiences with couple days old data, then TT6 cannot find enough satellites and it will loose signal quite easily.
The only GPS navigation software I know is Nav4All : http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/index.php
However, it needs a Data connexion to download maps (not working with WAP - it needs a true Data connexion).
Cheers.
OziExplorer is for free and there are maps
also for free
You can also use Google Maps in mobile Version.
It's not a real navigation Software but shows you the route and can connect to Built in GPS Antenna.
You can choose between mapview and satelite view like Google Maps/Earth.
All Maps of the whole World are included but you need a Dataconnection for download. It is possible to use the internal cache and surf the maps before going out, so you don't need a connection outside.
For me it was very helpful sometimes on places where are no official roads so TT does not work.
PANav is a Java application for MobilePhones (J2ME: MIDP 2.0/CLDC 1.0). It run well on your XDA with Jbed (see attached pictures). PANav can help people finding the best way to anywhere they want. With advanced GPS features and voice-prompted directions, they’ll always know exactly where their next turn is. In the early version PANav show only map of Hanoi (Vietnam) but it can be extended in the next version.
Current version is 1.2107 (PANavEngLite1.2107)
Also It can be run on BlackBerry (PANavLiteBB1.1230).
For more details, please visit www.pasoft.vn
Thanks much!
Nice Idea!
which map sources do you use? openstreetmap?
do you use internet access for the map?
Is it possible to store maps offline?
Whats about Europe maps? Germany? ;-)
calvin42 said:
Nice Idea!
which map sources do you use? openstreetmap?
do you use internet access for the map?
Is it possible to store maps offline?
Whats about Europe maps? Germany? ;-)
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we convert map from ESRI shape files (*.shp) so if you have Europe maps (or any maps , pls send to us and we will convert to .map for PANav.
Now in this version we do not use any internet access for the map, the map is stored in the app.
Thank calvin42 for your comment!
Well, Calvin talked about Openstreetmaps, a free (like free speech, but also like free beer) maping of the entire world.
Maps from England, Germany, and Netherlands are quite complete and usable. Other european countries are on the way.
USA and India are quite complete too.
Have a look at http://www.openstreetmap.org , it would be great to see our work (i'm a contributer) used by a good turn-to-turn app.
yes, i know about openstreetmap but PANav do not use any internet connection (wifi/wimax/gprs/3G...) to get the map. The map is offline mode, inside the app.
phuongnt said:
yes, i know about openstreetmap but PANav do not use any internet connection (wifi/wimax/gprs/3G...) to get the map. The map is offline mode, inside the app.
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Can you use TomTom maps with PANav?
Any plans for map support for Australia?
Thanks
nonno said:
Any plans for map support for Australia?
Thanks
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maybe, we will use openstreetmaps to extract and convert maps to use with PANav.
PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
animelover said:
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
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Thanks so mch for your reply.
i need a GPS Software for india....
i have downloded the HTC GPS tool but from that i cannot navigate...
i want a program where i can seen the map of my city MUMBAI and can navigate!!!!
google maps
you only pay for data transfer
it's the cheapest option other than garmin xt or tomtom navigator, which cost around $100
MyMapIndia
vinodxxx said:
PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
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Try My Map India or Garmin XT you will get it for free map of india search for it
you can try smart2Go which is basically for nokia, also the same can be used on wm try it
I've found a nice site about using GPS in India. There is a list of programs you can use: click
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
vinodxxx said:
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
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Download tomtom home form the website, if you use that to install the latest version of tomtom to your diamond you will get one free city map to try it out its bettter than nothing and its free init lol
You can use Mapking,
It's not free but not expensive , and u have Trial few days...
it means without GPRS
i cannot use GPS!!!..
is that true!!.
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
It uses the Internet connection to download Google Maps data.
GPS is used for getting your actual position. With that position Google Maps will download a card snippet representing your actual position.
vinodxxx said:
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
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Dude... there are 2 types of GPS technology. GPS and AGPS(AsssistedGPS). programs like Google maps uses AGPS service, means, they use a packet service (GPRS/EDGE), to get a faster GPS fix. If you choose a GPS program,say Satguide etc.. they completely rely on GPS (can work without GPRS/EDGE), but you have to pay for the service and maps. You might get trial versions of these softwares, but i dont think any of them provides it for free.
Alternatively you could try GPS cycle computer, which would track ur path, speed, directions, altitude... , but it is not designed to overlay your current location on a map. However, it can provide you with a graph details about your route.
dude download map my india software....i will send u india's map........its free to use and dosent need any gprs connection
What is the best software to use that doesnt require cell service. Including map updates.
I use copilot live 8...
$30.00...and it does not need a data signal as the maps are stored on your SD card.
For updates, im sure you can hook up to a wifi signal...or, you can download the Copilot Desktop application and sync maps/voices/updates to your phone that way.
I do have Copilot Live 8 also, so far it's great and the graphics are nicely with turn by turn navigation.
iGO 8 and TomTom
iGO8 have the option of installing individual city map! save alot of space TT have to put the whole NA map on it .. yikes!
I use GARMIN LOVE IT
I also use Garmin, love the lack of subscription needed to do internet searches for nearby places, unlike most of the others. So, you never have to worry about the locations being out of date.
Does Garmin running well with HD2 ? i had Garmin XT on my Satio (yes i still love that phone ) and it do the recalculating alot, with tomtom,Sygic they are fine no recalculation. Therefore, i dont want to put Garmin on my HD2
are any of these gps's free?
well they arent free...... but it anyone has a free trial (keyword: trial) feel free to share the link
k20a1 said:
are any of these gps's free?
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MS' Bing app (which is free) now has turn-by-turn GPS nav, but it requires cell data service.
Navicomputer
k20a1 said:
are any of these gps's free?
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I use Navicomputer on my Tytn II, but it seems to also work on the HTC HD2 too (according to other people posting). Navicomputer uses the Open Street Maps and can do this online or you can download them and use it when there is no connection (I do this when I travel outside the US).
awbcmu said:
I use Navicomputer on my Tytn II, but it seems to also work on the HTC HD2 too (according to other people posting). Navicomputer uses the Open Street Maps and can do this online or you can download them and use it when there is no connection (I do this when I travel outside the US).
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You can't do a search for an address when in Offline Mode. Can you?
I tried NaviComputer, and looks like its only good for looking at where you are in the map and not for it to tell you where you should go. And ofcourse for tracking your hiking trail (which it is meant for).