Hi guys,
I have recently purchased a Sprint HTC Mogul 6800 on ebay, so this PPC is pretty new to me. I want to know if there's anyway to change the phone settings to Bell or Fido with this phone I have (I am located in Toronto, Canada).
I thought by unlocking and reflashing a new ROM on the phone will solve by problem I have, but seems like this is not working...
FYI, the phone currently has the previous owner information right now, I don't know what to do anymore... =(
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Don
Sprint Mogul
First is Bell and FIDO CDMA or GSM since Sprint is CDMA. Secondly your not going to get very far changing info with out your MSL and that the code that allows you to program or reprogram the phone. You'll have to obtain that from Sprint.
Mogul
Alright I decided to try an answer my own questions. You could potentially use it on Bells network but FIDO is GSM. I also found this post on how to recover your MSL. I havent tried it since I have my MSL. Good Luck
http://www.mobile-files.com/forum/showthread.php?p=314179
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I have a Telus P4000 (Titan) that I'm using on the Alltel network... I've had no trouble converting Sprint Apache's to Alltel (for both voice and EVDO), but having little luck getting the P4000 to connect to EVDO on Alltel.
That being said, I've updated the PRL (manually) and done the basic activation and programming already. I'd like to know if there is a way to update the P4000 with the WM6 ROM for the Mogul from Sprint. The two devices are hardware identical, but I'm worried about the protected (not over-written) portions of the operating system...
In other words, will the ROM update give me access to the Sprint data network (which I can easily port to Alltel) or will that portion of the ROM (the NAM, etc.) be locked to Telus? I'm capable of re-programming the MMC/MNC and NAM settings, but I have no clear/concise list of codes or data from which to operate...
I have a P4000 to use for testing purposes, but my first obstacle is finding a way to load the Sprint ROM to the P4000 without generating a country ID error or a "vender" error (yes, it's vender, not vendor in the error report).
Any help from those (Vijay, Buzz, etc.) with the appropriate skills to get a no-ID RUU would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your help and advice. And thanks XDA-Developers for giving us a Titan-specific forum... Those of us with both GSM and CDMA devices welcome the changes here.
You would have to try flashing it and see. The Sprint update does not come with an ExtROM update and the Radio/Data settings are also seperate from the ROM. The ROM just updates the OS, applications, and drivers. If it does work, you shouldn't have any problems. You would also need a modded RUU for the setup app too, that right there would prevent you from even trying. Once someone makes that, you can atleast try.
Update...
I've already tried both the Sprint WM6 ROM Update (see first post) and now the Hermes RUU No ID without success...
If anyone has a RUU for the Titan that's ID free (or can construct one), I'd like to try flashing the Sprint ROM update to the P4000. I have a 6700 as my backup, so I'll not worry about the P4000...
Thanks in advance,
Mick
How were you able to get a foreign ESN to work on the Alltel network?
Foreign ESN on Alltel
Just for informational purposes... Alltel will activate any ESN as long as the handset is compatible.
If you carry a phone into a retail center, the representative will look at a phone and either refuse to activate it or discourage activating it if the handset is not Alltel branded (and occasionally even if it is).
However, if you call Alltel and ask them to activate a handset (after having verified its compatibility) and just give them the ESN over the phone, they have little choice but to activate it. It's your account, you can use whicever handset you like.
I have activated Sprint ESN's, Telus Mobility (Canada) ESN's and Verizon ESN's on Alltel... A bit of PST prgramming is required to provision the handset to use the Alltel data network and an occasional call to data tech support to retrieve authentication keys, but overall it's been a simple process.
The greatest benefit to activating an ESN on the Alltel network (regardless of origin) is that Alltel is contract-free if you provide your own handset. So I've bid goodbye to GSM until their data speeds are comparable to CDMA... and I have no contract.
Hope this helps...
Mick
No ID RUU for the Titan...?
Anyone... ? Anyone... ? Bueller... ? Anyone... ?
Has anyone found, created or hacked a No ID RUU for the Titan/Mogul/PPC6800?
Thanks in advance,
Mick
Will Verizon activate an Alltel phone? I really like the black 6800.
6.1 ROM Upgrade on Telus With Stand Alone GPS renabled on it?.
This phone is killar that's all i can say.. nice and thin too especially for the GPS in it and about GPS someone should post how to get the sprint ROM onto the P4000, the only reason this would wanna be done is for the GPS renableing, i cant believe telus mobility want's us to pay 10$ a month to use the A-GPS mode of this Full Stand Alone GPSone chipset, Please Guys at XDA, get a patch to renable the stand alone GPS chipset on this phone Thank's from Everyone at xda)
Hey guys,
I am looking to answer a few questions for a friend.
He has Alltel service and wants to purchase Alltel's version of the 6800.
Would he be able to buy the Sprint version, since both carriers are CDMA?
I have no clue about CDMA, I only use GSM carriers.
I see the prices of the Alltel verion are rediculous on eBay.
Thanks for the help
The Alltel version is pricier...I think because the Alltel cliental is not as nearly extensive as Sprint's. CDMA is a newer digital carrier service used only in the USA and Canada I think. GSM is older but used here and Europe.
As for carrier service, I would imagine there is away to get a Mogul to work on Alltel service since they are both CDMA and even Verizon is now allowing other CDMA carrier's phones on their network. I saw some posts about transferring phones with ESN, etc. Do a little more searching. You will find the answer.
Sprint Mogul on Alltel
You can use any version of the 6800 on Alltel... I've used both a Sprint Mogul and a Telus P4000 (Canadian) successfully. I still use the Telus P4000 as a backup to my Alltel 6800.
The easiest way to accomplish using another carrier's device is to use the hard SPL (bootloader) here on XDA-Developers and then you can load the Alltel ROM to whichever version of the device you have. That's exactly what I did to my P4000...
The only consideration to affecting this change is that Sprint uses MSL's (Master Subsidy Lock) on their phones. You'll need to know the MSL to update the PRL (Preferred Radio/Roaming List) because a non-Alltel device will not update OTA (Over The Air). Verizon and Alltel (verify Verizon for yourself, I'm only sure about Alltel) don't use MSL's, their MSL is always set to six zero's... so a Verizon 6800 is the easier switch as both Telus and Sprint use MSL's for their handsets.
Good luck...
mwheeler2 said:
You can use any version of the 6800 on Alltel... I've used both a Sprint Mogul and a Telus P4000 (Canadian) successfully. I still use the Telus P4000 as a backup to my Alltel 6800.
The easiest way to accomplish using another carrier's device is to use the hard SPL (bootloader) here on XDA-Developers and then you can load the Alltel ROM to whichever version of the device you have. That's exactly what I did to my P4000...
The only consideration to affecting this change is that Sprint uses MSL's (Master Subsidy Lock) on their phones. You'll need to know the MSL to update the PRL (Preferred Radio/Roaming List) because a non-Alltel device will not update OTA (Over The Air). Verizon and Alltel (verify Verizon for yourself, I'm only sure about Alltel) don't use MSL's, their MSL is always set to six zero's... so a Verizon 6800 is the easier switch as both Telus and Sprint use MSL's for their handsets.
Good luck...
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How in the heII did you get them to accept your non-Alltel phones??? Do you have a friend at Alltel? I couldn't get them to activate my old Sprint 6700 on my wifes Alltel line for ANYTHING! I'll bet I called 25 times trying to get it done (sometimes if you just get the right CSM they'll do anything for you). I even talked to tech support and told them that I had flased the Alltel ROM to the phone so that it was essentially an Alltel phone.
You must be good...
How to activate another carriers phone
Call them and dont tell them its not an alltel phone simply state you have a 6700 or 6800 to activate and there will be no questions or issues activating the phones, of course you will need to have the rom already updated as they will try to get you to ota activate the phone or manually program and they wont know the msl code and if you mention anything about it, then they will know its not an alltel phone also you can download alltel's version of wm6 for the 6700 and 6800 at this site without any bootloader tool.
http://www.america.htc.com/support/ppc6800/software-downloads.html
Its not really made for the 6700 but I have tested and worked fine on mutiple 6700s.
cintiajeremiah said:
Call them and dont tell them its not an alltel phone simply state you have a 6700 or 6800 to activate and there will be no questions or issues activating the phones, of course you will need to have the rom already updated as they will try to get you to ota activate the phone or manually program and they wont know the msl code and if you mention anything about it, then they will know its not an alltel phone also you can download alltel's version of wm6 for the 6700 and 6800 at this site without any bootloader tool.
http://www.america.htc.com/support/ppc6800/software-downloads.html
Its not really made for the 6700 but I have tested and worked fine on mutiple 6700s.
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Thats really good to know. It seems reasonable that if they tell you something like they cant locate the phone in your system,tell them that that is impossible. The phone after all came in a alltel, has alltel logos on it etc. =) That chad guy from the commercial even came over and personally verified it.
Thread at sprintusers which died!!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157419&page=2
Problem cant unlock phone
Well heres what I figured out for my Touch,
-In Vista the Windows Mobile Device Center allows me to browse and perform all tasks like as if there were no password
-In XP ActiveSync says the Device is locked and unlock it.
-After searching for a way to backup my phone so I can do a Hard Reset I found out that there should be a feature call Backup/Restore which was no where to be found in WMDC
(I also synced my Treo700wx and the feature didnt appeared for that phone either)
So, my question is whats the best way to backup everything because I do have access to the phones file through Vista. Thanks in advance!!! PLZ HELPP
use an app like spb backup or sprite backup
dan-htc-touch said:
use an app like spb backup or sprite backup
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Yea but on the phone I am stuck at the lock screen, the only way I can access the phone files is through Windows Mobile Device Center in Vista. In XP it says to unlock it but I cant.
Where is the Sim Card to swap?
I have read the thread on the elf unlocker, touch unlocker, and many others. However, I haven't found anywhere where to swap the sim cards. Where is the Sim card located, I hope I am just being an idiot and it's right under my nose.
Can someone please tell me where the sim card is, and if they have successfully unlocked the Sprint Touch in the (USA)?
I spent a whole day on trying to figure this out, and still haven't. Wishing for a good semaritan to help walk me through. Thanks.
Ryan
Uhh dude, there is no simcard in the sprint version. Its CDMA instead of GPS.
flyhighusa said:
Uhh dude, there is no simcard in the sprint version. Its CDMA instead of GPS.
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Haha, you mean GSM. Everyone kinda has GPS and Rev. A on their mind. Soon we can whip out our Touch and use Google Maps with GPS!
ryanbg said:
Haha, you mean GSM. Everyone kinda has GPS and Rev. A on their mind. Soon we can whip out our Touch and use Google Maps with GPS!
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Man I must have been on crack or hammered. Yeah I meant GSM. bluhhhh thx
Unlocking Sprint Touch Vogue w/ no SIM
Thanks for the reply. I shourtly found out there is no SIM Card, so to get straight to the point, is there any way to get the Touch Vogue to work on T-mobile (USA)'s network without having a SIM Card.
T-mobile said there is no way to use a phone on their network without a SIM Card.
Background: I had my T-mobile Dash stolen. Now thinking I could unlock it, I got a Sprint Touch from a friend who bought the I-Phone instead. Can I use it, or should I simply resell it?
Please help. Would anyone be kind enough to communicate via email for quicker response? [email protected]
can you unlock the sprint touch and
use it on verizon?? if so how do you do it??
ryan007 said:
Thanks for the reply. I shourtly found out there is no SIM Card, so to get straight to the point, is there any way to get the Touch Vogue to work on T-mobile (USA)'s network without having a SIM Card.
T-mobile said there is no way to use a phone on their network without a SIM Card.
Background: I had my T-mobile Dash stolen. Now thinking I could unlock it, I got a Sprint Touch from a friend who bought the I-Phone instead. Can I use it, or should I simply resell it?
Please help. Would anyone be kind enough to communicate via email for quicker response? [email protected]
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Ryan, not quite sure how you mucked this up, but you did. There are two main cell network types in the USA. ATT and T-mo use GSM, which has SIM cards. Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.
You CANNOT move a CDMA phone to GSM and vice versa. They use different radio frequencies, so it would be like trying to listen to an AM station with an FM radio.
the_Prophet said:
can you unlock the sprint touch and
use it on verizon?? if so how do you do it??
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Short answer, no.
Long answer is that these networks are still locked. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers. In other parts of the world (Korea), CDMA carriers have the equivalent of SIM cards. In those places you can just swap out the cards, and you're all set. A long time ago our carriers decided not to implement this functionality. As a result, Verizon and Sprint cannot swap phones.
In the future, you may be able to bring other phones on the Verizon network. There is an initiative in progress that should provide for a way to test and approve devices for use. This won't happen for another year or so, so don't hold your breath.
Rev A And Gps Work On Htc Touch For Sprint
i had to swap my original rom with a new one which gave me the ability to have rev a and gps working on my sprint touch mobile.. it works great and i love it.. never knew my phone was so functional... SO IF YOU HAVE HTC TOUCH THROUGH SPRINT... U HAVE GPS ON YOUR PHONE
Hi. I'm new here and basically dont' know anything... Here's my question. I recently got a T-Mobile Wing from a friend. I am an AT&T customer. I had the Wing unlocked, but would also like to use my medianet functions from AT&T on this device. Is there a way to flash the phone or whatever so that it is recognized by the AT&T network? Basically, I want the network to recognize the T-Mobile device as an AT&T device.
Any help would be appreciated. I see you all know your stuff.
Thanks!
***Sorry for the double post! Please remove this one***
Noob here. I just got an unlocked Wing. I am an AT&T subscriber. Phone works great, but is there a way to use the AT&T media net features on the T-Mobile device? Can I make the AT&T network see the device as an AT&T device? I found an old thread with the same kind of question, but no real answers.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I believe you have to go to at&t website and configure the options manually unless somebody creates an at&t rom, otherwise everything must be done manually
I'm completely making this up right now ... BUT:
Did you just pop your ATT sim card into the Tmobile Wing? And that's it?
I think for any other features to work, you would need to call ATT up and give them the IMEI and other information from your phone which would make it work, since that's how they detect what type of phone you have server-side and return the information they think is pertinent to your phone...
If youre phone isn't "regsitering" ... or its trying to send your phone the info that should have gone to your old phone that's on the account ... or it may not be sending anything at all.
I suggest, call ATT and explain the situation. I seriously doubt they're going to say anything... since you're still paying THEM every month.
Once they have the necessary info from ur phone, it should take 15 min to provision or something and boom ... everything should work.
Have someone made a cab with those ATT features you are trying to use? Maybe over in the kaiser forum who are mainly all ATT users bc of the Tilt