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Man I really hate T-Mobile's tech support. I called them to ask a simple question:
If I cancel my Total Internet Package which is just 20$ more on by phone bill that I don't really need to be spending, will I be charged for using the WIFI on my phone when I am at home?
I have Comcast cable internet at home and can pick up the router's signal with my MDA even with the sim card out and browse the internet.
They turned around and told me that I would be charged per Kb if I canceled my Total Internet Package and then used my WIFI to pick up my home internet service.
By the way this was T-Mobile's Windows Mobile Department that told me this...
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Ok now I have 2 questions for all of you.
Is what T-mobile told me true?
Is there a cheaper way to get unlimited GPRS internet than T-Mobile's $19.99 Total Internet package?
The only time I use my GPRS is to update WeatherPanel and when I am using the OZ Instant Messenger. All other time I spend on the internet is with WIFI turned on and GPRS turned off.
Please, all help will be greatly appreciated and well received.
Thanks in advance, your friendly neighborhood computer geek, Dan.
Well I hope I can help answer your question somewhat.
I do not pay for the GPRS service through Tmobile, I try not to use it at all. If I pull data through it then I am charged. But if i use a wifi hotspot then Tmobile will not charge me. In truth they should have no way of telling if and when I use a WiFi connection. The reason the rep told you this was really a twisting of the truth. He can probably get away with telling you this because it will cut your access to Tmobile HotSpots which you get access to with the data plan. Sneaky sneaky bastards, you should post this little tale on http://consumerist.com/ .
To answer the second if Tmobile is your carrier then NO I dont believe you can get GPRS data from another carrier. Unless your phone is sim unlocked and you choose to use another carrier to get your data through, but this will need you to switch sims out. Either way your gonna pay for it. I would hold out till 1-2 quarter of 2008 Tmobile will start its HSDPA role out, providing upwards of 3Mbps for data. Of course you will need a phone capable of HSDPA, but such is life.
If I am uninformed of another method maybe someone here will be so kind as to enlighten us.
ritalin said:
Well I hope I can help answer your question somewhat.
I do not pay for the GPRS service through Tmobile, I try not to use it at all. If I pull data through it then I am charged. But if i use a wifi hotspot then Tmobile will not charge me. In truth they should have no way of telling if and when I use a WiFi connection. The reason the rep told you this was really a twisting of the truth. He can probably get away with telling you this because it will cut your access to Tmobile HotSpots which you get access to with the data plan. Sneaky sneaky bastards, you should post this little tale on http://consumerist.com/ .
To answer the second if Tmobile is your carrier then NO I dont believe you can get GPRS data from another carrier. Unless your phone is sim unlocked and you choose to use another carrier to get your data through, but this will need you to switch sims out. Either way your gonna pay for it. I would hold out till 1-2 quarter of 2008 Tmobile will start its HSDPA role out, providing upwards of 3Mbps for data. Of course you will need a phone capable of HSDPA, but such is life.
If I am uninformed of another method maybe someone here will be so kind as to enlighten us.
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I figured T-Mobile was full of S**T... I know I can access the internet via WIFI even without a sim card in the device. I only use it at home or in hospitals anyway. Like I said though, the GPRS for me, is just for WeatherPanel. That's why I am trying to find a cheaper way...
Thank you for your help though. Not the answer I was hoping for but very grateful non the less.
Dan.
You won't get charged for using wifi. If weather panel is all you really use GPRS for then go to the 5.99 plan. That's what I use and have no problem using weather panel or even browsing the web. The other day I even streamed video over it, although GPRS is way too slow to be any use for that but I wanted to see if it worked. The only apps that I know of that do have problems are mostly IM apps since they have most of the ports that those programs use blocked on the 5.99 plan.
Just realized that you said that you use OZ IM, I'm not sure if that will work or not, I can't seem to get it to work with WM6.
You will not be charged per kilobyte, whoever told you that was either new or retarded. The only difference you will see is that your instant messaging will go thru text messages instead of wifi, charging you per message, to log in, to log out, etc. That's due to the way the OZ instant messaging is written. The 5.99 has been working for a lot of people, but it was a glitch in the system that is slowly being fixed market by market, so don't get upset if it doesn't work for you or if it suddenly stops working, as it was never meant to work. If you connect thru wifi, you won't pay anything as it's your connection thru wifi to your phone's wifi, and the T-Mobile network is nowhere in the mix. Again, the Instant Messaging will be billed as text messages.
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You will not be charged per kilobyte, whoever told you that was either new or retarded. The only difference you will see is that your instant messaging will go thru text messages instead of wifi, charging you per message, to log in, to log out, etc. That's due to the way the OZ instant messaging is written. The 5.99 has been working for a lot of people, but it was a glitch in the system that is slowly being fixed market by market, so don't get upset if it doesn't work for you or if it suddenly stops working, as it was never meant to work. If you connect thru wifi, you won't pay anything as it's your connection thru wifi to your phone's wifi, and the T-Mobile network is nowhere in the mix. Again, the Instant Messaging will be billed as text messages.
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That is really good to know. Can you tell me or direct me to a thread that explains the real difference between the 5.99 plan and the 19.99 Total Internet Package?
i don't know about the question you had, but I've had the other extreme as far as Tmo's customer support/tech support... always been great to me. Even after 2 refurbs.
Whoever told you that you'd be charged using Wi-Fi was either full of it or was ASSUMING you would then be accessing T-Mo services...why would you? Just use whatever service you use from home.
I use my MDA with Wi-Fi in my house ALL the time and it has NOTHING to do with T-Mobile. It's not EDGE/GPRS--it's a totally different technology, just like hooking your wireless laptop up to your home router.
Furthermore, you can use the Wi-Fi with T-Mobile Hot Spots if you have that subscription with ANY Wi-Fi computer you have--no reason to have more than one Hot Spot account--many hotels now have it, not just Starbucks.
T-Mobile NOW forces you to pay for Hot Spots with Internet Service as a bundle but they are different technologies.
The Internet Service is EDGE/GPRS and that is a CELLULAR service and is programmed into your SIM chip. I use that too. My MDA can hook into eMail and web sites without a Wi-Fi connection via the cell modem. But it's not nearly as fast.
I actually have 2 SIM chips with this service--I got one for my old IPAQ6315, but that's in the MDA. The one in the MDA is in my notebook computer--it has a Cingular Sony Ericsson cellular modem that I got the unlock code for, and put the chip from the MDA in there--I ALSO can use my notebook with EDGE/GPRS, or Wi-Fi (or even RJ45) connections.
I have the eMail for my regular eMail routed to my MDA--no messing with another address. So it's working a lot like a Blackberry as well.
Finally, you asked if there's a cheaper alternative: There is. It's called "T-Zones" and it's T-Mo's WAP service, for $6 or $7/month. It gives you the limited access you get on cell phones, and you already have it with the fancier internet access--click on T-Zones and you'll see it.
Generally, with T-Mo, service is a waste of time till you get to Level 2. But if you get to Level 3, then you get the techs that really know their business. The PDA support can be similar. But you got to jump through a lot of hoops to reach that level and that can take 30-45 minutes on the phone. Be persistent.
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That is really good to know. Can you tell me or direct me to a thread that explains the real difference between the 5.99 plan and the 19.99 Total Internet Package?
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the 19.99 plan gives you your actual connection to the GPRS/EDGE(and in 4 test markets 3G! T-Mobile bought a whole lot of 3g network up recently.) network (internet2.voicestream.com), by connecting thru this route you are given access to the ports required to get to full websites, as well as email servers, etc.
the 5.99 plan is your basic wap access, t-zones and other wap sites. It's what is used by motorola's, samsungs, basic phones. Gives you access to your account information from T-Mobile's wap sites (but not on an mda running less than wm6 and having had the tzones applett installed), accuweather's website, and other wap websites. By connecting thru the wap APN, you are directed thru a filter that doesn't allow you full access to normal websites.
Now, T-Mobile has a glitch in their system where every now and then you get 5.99 internet and your number isn't put into the filter, so the ports that were supposed to be closed off to you never were, and you can browse and email just as if you had the 19.99 feature. The only problem? They know of the glitch and are closing it market by market, which has been taking the better part of 7 months now, but it's not that far from being finished.
Almost all programs you have installed on the mda that are third party will default to what ever internet connection is available, however, the OZ instant messaging program from the MDA and almost all other T-Mobile PDA's is written specifically to use the SMS (short message system) as the next backup if you aren't connected thru the internet2.voicestream.com, or blackberry.net apn if you are using a blackberry, so if you are connected thru wifi, then you will be charged text for each message.
Hope this helps, if not, let me know.
Johnny
Alright, so I'm a new Cingular 8525 owner. I bought my phone on Friday, but spent that day (and the next...) just plain customizing it to my liking with apps/games/etc. I even managed to unlock it using POF's easy unlocker.
However, it was not until Sunday that I was able to take it out for a full day (eight hours) of testing. Everything was far better than I had expected (even the battery life was beyond what I had hoped for) and, by the end of the day, I was extremely satisfied.
This is where something strange happened. By this point, I had 20% of battery life yet and I had manually turned off WiFi. Well, I was playing around on the 8525 trying to pass the time when I accidentally clicked on a web link. Immediately, it opened up, and loaded. This shocked me because I had turned my WiFi off.
About thirty or so minutes later, I tested it again (in an area where WiFi access points wasn't around), and again, I managed to load a web page fine. Now I was nervous. I know the 8525 is awesome, but it's not THAT awesome. I suspected that I was being charged for something.
Those of you in the know can probably guessed what happened here. For me, however, I got the idea to check my Cingular account online and, sure enough, I saw the stats that I used their network for 0.7MB of data transfer. Apparently, when the WiFi is off, the 8525 switches to Cingular's network by default. I had not known this because: 1) I thought that I would need to set the 8525's TCP/IP to use Cingular's network and 2) I had assumed that I would need to sign up for that in order to use it.
Either way, my intuition (born of my past experience and knowledge concerning wealthy corporations, especially those with the name 'AT&T') warned me, and I researched this on Google. Doing this, I discovered a mess of people who had the same thing occurred to them, and ended up with phone bills in the hundreds of dollars.
Fortunately, I was one of the lucky ones. So what's the moral of the story? Assumptions are dangerous and trust your senses.
If you didn't upgrade your imei with att you can get the unlimited mediamax for around $20. If you did upgrade your imei then you have to get the PDA version, not nearly as cheap. Then you don't have to worry about the usage
I didn't change my IMEI, but I don't plan to get a data service anyway. I just prefer to use WiFi.
cmortensen said:
If you didn't upgrade your imei with att you can get the unlimited mediamax for around $20. If you did upgrade your imei then you have to get the PDA version, not nearly as cheap. Then you don't have to worry about the usage
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hey just to set the record straight the PDA plan is 25 now and medianet unlimited is 15...
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hey just to set the record straight the PDA plan is 25 now and medianet unlimited is 15...
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I have just verified it and it's still showing PDA Personal Add-on $30. Where did you get this info?
Thanks
Well I guess that Smart in your handle doesn't mean much.
Oh, Airjer, my apology for not realizing such an obvious fact .
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hey just to set the record straight the PDA plan is 25 now and medianet unlimited is 15...
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Is it possible to get the $15 medianet plan on my 8525? I don't plan to tether to the laptop.
I found the same thing when I got my contract last year on Orange in the UK, its crazy how it adds up. The easy way around this is to go into your communications settings, and create 'fake' profiles for your connections to GPRS with blank values. That way you can just keep the 'fake' profile active making it impossible for the 3G/GPRS to connect automatically.
When you need to use 3G/GPRS, go back into communications, and use the dropdown box to select your cingular setting. Let me know if you need a more detailed explanation, saved me LOADS.
JPX,
Thank you for the advice. Since my last post, I've been doing much more research and I also found a software called Modaco NoData that basically disables GPRS.
I tested this out and it worked at first, so I basically ignored it from then on. That was my second mistake. At the end of the month, I got a large bill from AT&T and, of course, it was due to the GPRS. Amazingly enough, despite me disabling the GPRS (and it even show as disabled on AT&T's website), the data still collected up anyway.
Fortunately, I was able to get my bill forgiven, and at that point, the representative offered to disable it for me. I honestly should have done that from the start.
In my sig, you'll see my phone history. With Alltel, I paid a low flat rate for internet service that allowed tethering. Now that I have the Ozone, Verizon requires that I pay $30.00 a month for unlimited access through my phone. The moment I tether, Verizon recognizes it and requires I sign up for their Mobile Connect plan of 5GB access a month for an additional $30.00 a month.
That's $60.00 a month folks for a service I paid half for with Alltel.
Is their a way to circumvent detection? I'm a truck driver and the phone and computer are my only sources of entertainment while I am gone for weeks on the road. I really love hulu.com. But the limits that I am now restricted to makes it difficult to enjoy CHiPs (go Erik Estrada! lol...)
Seriously, I'm a Battlestar Galactica addict and I need my fix of sexy cylon ass. Any help would be awesome.
Try out
junefabrics.com PdaNet. Worked well with my Palm Treo 700wx as well as my Ozone.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how Verizon detects tethered traffic from handset traffic?
Its not so much that VZW can detect that you tether... its that they've locked down that option from your handset.(*)
I believe that on all VZW smart phones Internet Connection Sharing is either locked down or not even included in the phone's firmware. This means, from VZW's perspective, if a Cust wants to tether they need to get the Vzw Access software... so thats how they know and how they can charge you.
As mentioned in a previous post... pdanet does allow you to get around this. Its worked really well for me, although I've never gotten to Bluetooth tether to work :-(
(*) I have heard rumors that VZW has monitored traffic and has contacted customers who they suspected were tethering under the rationale that they were using too much bandwith w/ their smartphones. This is just second hand rumors though...
Use this and avoid the verizon tethering software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499
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Use this and avoid the verizon tethering software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499
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Correct me if I am wrong... but, I looked through that thread and isnt that software package for Windows Pro?
The Willow(Snap/Ozone/3G) are all WinMo Standard. Also, I believe that before you can have a VZW phone like the snap broadcast as a WiFi spot it has to have ICS installed.
Sadly, I've tried to get ICS installed and have tried to get several different HotSpot programs to work an so far nothing has worked on my Ozone. If anyone has successfully done it and wants to share I would greatly appreciate it.
I thought there was also some number like *___ that you could dial when connected to the Maple as a usb/bluetooth modem as the dial in number that would let you access the data. I don't know if this would be detected.
Hate to say it but T-Mobile rocks. I tether all the time on 3G and no extra charges, 20.00 a month and I have unlimited data. Why anyone sticks with Verizon is beyond me... And dont give me the old coverage line, T-Mobile has grown a lot coverage wise and 3G will be nation wide by the end of the year. GSM is the only way to go
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Hate to say it but T-Mobile rocks. I tether all the time on 3G and no extra charges, 20.00 a month and I have unlimited data. Why anyone sticks with Verizon is beyond me... And dont give me the old coverage line, T-Mobile has grown a lot coverage wise and 3G will be nation wide by the end of the year. GSM is the only way to go
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While T-Mobile has a great data plan, their calling plans are not great. I require national coverage due to where I travel. Alltelwas awesome, Verizon, not so much.
T-Mobile, Sprint, Alltel, and AT&T don't work locally at my house in appalachia, only Verizon. So, it just seemed the logical choice.
I wish Alltel stayed around.
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While T-Mobile has a great data plan, their calling plans are not great. I require national coverage due to where I travel. Alltelwas awesome, Verizon, not so much.
T-Mobile, Sprint, Alltel, and AT&T don't work locally at my house in appalachia, only Verizon. So, it just seemed the logical choice.
I wish Alltel stayed around.
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When was the last time you checked T-Mobile coverage? I have friends that live on Brown Street in Appalachia, they use T-Mo.
This issue was my first to take care of. Use WMWifirouter. I use it all day, can teather via USB or Wireless. No additional charge.
mbardsley said:
This issue was my first to take care of. Use WMWifirouter. I use it all day, can teather via USB or Wireless. No additional charge.
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Couple questions for you then...
Are you using the OZONE for VZW? And if so, where did you get Internet Connection Sharing since VZW removed it from the phone.
Thanks!
ICS is found here.
Download Here!
You may need to change some settings in ##778 before you connect. Here are some instructions I found on ppcgeeks.
Before you start using Internet Sharing, you need to go into EPST (##778 send) from the Phone Screen,
Choose Edit
Password= 000000,
Press View Info
Select M.IP Default Profile,
Edit DUN NAI and change it to [email protected] (this should match the above 'NAI' setting.)
Phone will reset. Now try using ICS. Should work fine.
I used the above method and was able to connect. wmwifirouter will connect to, so I may purchase that now.
Or just try that WMWifiRouter for free for a month, then buy it, no ICS, cool app.
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WHOLE BUNCH OF GOOD INFO
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Sweet... thanks alot! I'll give it a shot and report back.
WhatsGoing on here
I cannot download the link to ICS that was posted above (I dont know if it is dead or what) I do havea copy of ICS that i was using on My 6800 but when i Install it on my Ozone it says that it was for a previous version of WinMo. and when i try to install WMWIFIRouter It simply says "Jorrit Jongma WMWifiRouter cannot be installed. Try installing again to a different location choose a location: " Device or Storage Card. and Neither one of them work please help
I know a lot of you out there are using windows pc's but there are a few of us using a mac, with my mac I was able to set up a bluetooth modem connection without changing any settings or buying any programs. When you pair your device (I use a verizon Ozone) it will allow you to use your internet connection. The settings are available in drop down menus and are as follows:
Phone Vendor: Generic
Phone Model: GPRS (GSM/3G)
Username: <blank>
Password: <blank>
APN: <blank>
CID: 1
then I chose to show modem status in the menu bar and it makes it very easy to connect from there.
After that you may need to go to network pref. then to bluetooth and under the default configuration put in a telephone number of #777 include the # sign.
I don't know if this will incur additional charges I just figured out how to do it, I'll update when my next bill comes.
I hope this helps mac users and maybe sheds some light on how a pc user could get their's to work
They work with Window Mobile... I was told that they have a contract with Window Mobile and Window Mobile would report all internet usages on all phone lines to Verizon.
Hi all,
Don't you thing tethering is simply detected from the user agent ?
When I had this type of problems in France, I used :
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/59/
This way, you can have you laptop to send the same uder agent as you Snap with, say, Opera mini.
Jalom said:
Hi all,
Don't you thing tethering is simply detected from the user agent ?
When I had this type of problems in France, I used :
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/59/
This way, you can have you laptop to send the same uder agent as you Snap with, say, Opera mini.
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I don't think so, as you could do it the other way around
Use IE User Agent on your smarthphone - pay as if you were tethering?
Correct me if I'm wrong, and sorry if I shouldn't be reviving this thread.
Tried getting an answer on t-mobile's forums but it seems mostly people *****ing or having no clue about anything so couldn't get a straight answer and thought someone might know here.
I heard someone say wifi tethering is fine, but if you USB tethering and use more than 100mb they charge an insane per mb fee, does anyone know if that's true?
I just would rather be able to use USB because i've noticed the wifi on it (at least with the t-mobile US rom) is horrible and has issues holding a connection often even when a foot away from the computer connecting and I also noticed while HTC's wifi router is running the phone itself has no internet access and won't download emails, etc which is very annoying, but window mobile's internet sharing tool doesn't have that issue.
I use USB tether on a daily basis, and have been for at least the past six months. I just started using the feature on my Leo, but I've been with T-Mobile for over a year now and been tethering on a MT3G and Nexus One. I'm 100% certain that I've gone waaaay over 100MB, but I have never seen any additional charges on my bill because of data usage.
Edit: Actually, after thinking about it...each Leo ROM is over 100mb soo...
great! thanks, tethering has been my biggest concern switching to t-mobile with them lacking any official tethering plan, I don't mind paying for it if they offered it and did on at&t, just so long as I can do it averaged 4gb on at&t.
now if only the radios on the stock rom weren't so bad, and I'm kind off leary on the whole rom flashing thing.
I wouldn't be too leary on flashing. I was a bit when I first did it with my first phone. But I did a lot of reading, double/tripple checking. With the HD2, I'm just giving it enough bake time so people work out any kinks in flashing first.
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I heard someone say wifi tethering is fine, but if you USB tethering and use more than......
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id be really interested in how they could tell the difference.
With an unlimited data plan, almost all US carriers kind of turn a blind eye to tethering (or suspected tethering) as long as you stay under the technical data cap (~3-5GB for the US carriers, I think 5GB for TMo).
I've tethered my MT3G with T-Mo for a long time, using nearly 1GB in a day as a wifi router for friends in an apartment, and heard absolutely nothing from TMo.
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I wouldn't be too leary on flashing. I was a bit when I first did it with my first phone. But I did a lot of reading, double/tripple checking. With the HD2, I'm just giving it enough bake time so people work out any kinks in flashing first.
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Well I did try once with my Fuze unsucessfully and worried to try it and brick my HD2 because i've found the instructions i've seen on here not very clear, like I know there was one program it said to flash before flashing rom's but it was only for certain roms and none of the roms seemed to indicate which was the proper way to flash that specific rom :/
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id be really interested in how they could tell the difference.
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Well I know when I had my HTC Fuze on AT&T when I would tether the phone it showed 2 different active data connection, I belive one was called internet and one data, though I don't see that on T-mobile, just have internet so maybe they can't, just kind of want to be sure and not get some crazy bill.
I'm also not worried about a limit or being charged for it, but was hoping for faster connection speed with TMo. Averaging 800kbps 2 days after receiving my HD2, about equal to my omnia with verizon.
Havent readup on it much yet, but is the 7mbps a TMo rarity?
And I too plan on flashing a ROM, trying to wait...
Anyone have a cab to add the USB internet sharing to the menu that pops up when I connect to USB on my computer? It only shows 2 options, and on custom roms it shows internet sharing. Also has anyone found a cab to add the WIFI Router to the Sense Wireless Settings menu? Thanks
I have been tethering for almost 7 years with T-Mobile.
The OP stated 100MB may refer the original web2go thing. The truth is: you'll be upgraded to smartphone data once you go over 100MB, but it's never enforced.
To tether with HD2, you need to use internet sharing in tools sub-menu. T-Mobile Data or Internet doesn't really matter.
It's said there's a 10GB softcap and you're throttled thereafter till the next billing cycle, but I don't hear anybody (including myself) got hit yet.
You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
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I have been tethering for almost 7 years with T-Mobile.
The OP stated 100MB may refer the original web2go thing. The truth is: you'll be upgraded to smartphone data once you go over 100MB, but it's never enforced.
To tether with HD2, you need to use internet sharing in tools sub-menu. T-Mobile Data or Internet doesn't really matter.
It's said there's a 10GB softcap and you're throttled thereafter till the next billing cycle, but I don't hear anybody (including myself) got hit yet.
You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
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When I went into the store an got my HD2 at launch, The sales rep and I were talking about tethering...he said that he tethers all the time on his rooted Nexus and now on his demo HD2 that he was given. He said that he has never run into a problem and has never heard of any customers having an issue with billing. He said that he uses anywhere up to 3-4gigs a month and personally I have never even come close to that. As the quoted poster put it "It's not your home internet replacement" so don't use it as such...
...he did say that they know when you do it though which is a bit concerning...and if you call customer care with a problem concerning tethering, they will not assist you.
...the first rule about tethering, you don't talk about tethering...
...the first rule about tethering, you don't talk about tethering...
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lmao!
and I gotta remember my days of 14.4kbps tethering with sprint (tarred and feathered for talking about it back then) and be dang happy with 800kbps!... its stupid FIOS in our home making me think 7mbps is subpar.
I asked Customer care and they were quite helpful. I have the legacy data plan for all windows mobile phones. The plan is 19.99, but is grandfathered into the newer data plans that are going at 34.99. Now, for my plan at least, they told me I have a 10GB bandwidth limit and can use the 3G network as well as tethering is supported. I consider myself absolutely lucky with that data plan. And from what I heard, if you hit your limit, you will be dropped off the 3G network and will run on the EDGE until your limit gets resetted.
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You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
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Man, what I wouldn't give to be those guys in Philly playing with HSPA+ right not...it could easily replace my home broadband...
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Also has anyone found a cab to add the WIFI Router to the Sense Wireless Settings menu? Thanks
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I don't know if this is what you were looking for but I attached the wifi router cab for you.
ddgarcia05 said:
I don't know if this is what you were looking for but I attached the wifi router cab for you.
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Thanks, but I was looking for the Manila Settings Tab - Wireless, where it shows the Wifi Sharing. It's probably cooked in some roms that I used in the past...
I did a search for HD2 tether, and came up with this thread. I don't see my question answered in it though, although I may have missed it, or somewhere else.
My question has nothing to do with whether T-Mobile allows it or not. I have tethered for years on T-Mo (with other phones), with no problem.
My question is simple and basic--How to tether on the HD2?
Since this thread is about USB tethering, my question here could simply be about how to USB tether, although I would also like to find out the best way to Bluetooth tether. (I read something about wi-fi tether in this thread, and have no idea what is meant by that.)
For USB tethering, I assume a driver is needed, for the computer to see the phone connected via USB as a modem. In fact, I probably have an HTC USB driver from previous HTC phones I had, like the MDA (and even the Audiovox SMT5600), but I don't know if there is a newer driver more suited for the HD2. Where does one get the USB modem driver for this phone?
For BT tethering, I think there are two ways-Dial-Up-Networking, and a newer way, I think ICS. I have only used DUN before. I think I might have read that the other way is better though. Is there a thread I missed, with a guide to BT tethering with the HD2?
Thank you for your input.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-hd2/help/connectivity
And it has indeed replaced my home internet. Pings suck for games, but other than that, it's completely serviceable.
The way if was explained to me by TMO folks, is you essentially have an uncapped bandwidth limit. However, once they see you hit 5gigs for the month, they will throttle you down somewhat.
As far as tethering goes, TMO is probably one of the friendliest towards it in the US. Just don't call into 611 asking for support or how to tether, they wont throw you under the bus and start billing you extra, but they just don't officially support it, you might get a rep in a good mood and willing to help though
I've been tethering for at least 6 years on TMO, started with a seirra wireless GPRS aircard then upgraded to an EDGE card. I would swap my SIM out of my phone when using the card. technically not tethering i guess, but then I got a Samsung phone that supported bluetooth and always tethered with it to my laptop and winmobile PDA
I'm having a WTF moment.
Got my preorder One last Thursday and have been having trouble getting it to connect to the Media Link HD dongle.
First, it seems to connect and pass through image to the TV but I get a message saying something like "be sure the TV is properly configured". Then, I get other messages saying that WiFi Hotspot needs to be enabled and to go to the AT&T website, or dial 611.
After over a half hour with a service rep, I was told that the Media Link requires a WiFi hotspot, which in turn requires that Tethering be provisioned on the account... for another $20 per month for a 5gig plan. Suffice to say I told the supervisor I was eventually passed along to that the practice of incentivizing customers to preorder and stay with the company by offering a free dongle only to be trapped into spending more money every month to use it is a tactic worthy of Tony Soprano.
The part that confuses the hell out of me is that if the Media Link and phone both connect through my WiFi router, why would Tethering/Hotspot to connect to the AT&T data network even be necessary?
So, anyone else have this problem and a workaround?
BillTheCat said:
I'm having a WTF moment.
Got my preorder One last Thursday and have been having trouble getting it to connect to the Media Link HD dongle.
First, it seems to connect and pass through image to the TV but I get a message saying something like "be sure the TV is properly configured". Then, I get other messages saying that WiFi Hotspot needs to be enabled and to go to the AT&T website, or dial 611.
After over a half hour with a service rep, I was told that the Media Link requires a WiFi hotspot, which in turn requires that Tethering be provisioned on the account... for another $20 per month for a 5gig plan. Suffice to say I told the supervisor I was eventually passed along to that the practice of incentivizing customers to preorder and stay with the company by offering a free dongle only to be trapped into spending more money every month to use it is a tactic worthy of Tony Soprano.
The part that confuses the hell out of me is that if the Media Link and phone both connect through my WiFi router, why would Tethering/Hotspot to connect to the AT&T data network even be necessary?
So, anyone else have this problem and a workaround?
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i'm pretty sure there is no need for tethering. look more closely at your configuration and see if there's anything wonky going on there, first
slackercow said:
i'm pretty sure there is no need for tethering. look more closely at your configuration and see if there's anything wonky going on there, first
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Like? Not even sure where to begin. The phone connects to my router just fine, so that's not it. This is a real head-scratcher.
Have you tried changing out of game mode? If its not that they are forcing you to use hotspot to spend more on monthly charges ergo why it was free. Or one more possibility its just a mistake in the software and they will fix it in a future update. I'm glad I don't have att. I hope for the best you don't have to use your own data, just to use the media link
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5odead said:
Have you tried changing out of game mode?
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Whoa. Game mode? What's that?
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Not sure I don't have the phone yet. But that's what some other guy said he did to be able to see something on a TV. He did use a mhl cable though. So I don't know for sure if that will apply to you.
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No, you definitely do not need tethering / hotspot on your account. I use the Media Link HD with my One (AT&T version) without any issues and I don't have tethering on my account.
Make sure the firmware on your MediaLink is up to date and both it and your One are correctly connected to your WiFi hotspot. Also, be aware that any complex security settings on your hotspot could give you trouble.
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The firmware version of my adapter is 5.19.103.1 with no unusual settings on my router, which is an older Liksys - the blue one with the dual antennas.
The dongle recognizes my network name and my One connects for a second until a dialog on the phone reports that hotspot is required and to go to the AT&T website or call 611.
I have never applied "unusual" settings in the router other than naming the network, broadcasting SSID and applying WEP.
Any help is appreciated.
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I have tethering on my plan but I did notice that the flash wouldn't work while it was connected to my MediaLink. It gave an error message saying that flash isn't supported while hotspot is enabled.
would also like to know how to get around this hotspot error.. I've tried different security settings on my wireless router; what I haven't tried is using NO security to see if that helps. will try this now and update post!
edit: even no security on my wireless router doesn't change anything.. hrmm
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edit: even no security on my wireless router doesn't change anything.. hrmm
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Yeah, this is getting wierder by the moment.
Likewise I tried disabling security on the router with no results.
I just installed a tethering app which requires root (suggesting to me that it works around any block at&t put on the ROM), started the link and it disabled tethering in favor of WiFi.
Looks like one of us is going to be on the phone with AT&T and/or HTC this week. I already have about 45 minutes invested with an appointment for Wednesday to discuss the tethering issue. Where I'm concerned, how I use my monthly bandwidth allotment is my business and they have no right to dictate limits to what I pay for within the confines of my plan.
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BillTheCat said:
Yeah, this is getting wierder by the moment.
Likewise I tried disabling security on the router with no results.
I just installed a tethering app which requires root (suggesting to me that it works around any block at&t put on the ROM), started the link and it disabled tethering in favor of WiFi.
Looks like one of us is going to be on the phone with AT&T and/or HTC this week. I already have about 45 minutes invested with an appointment for Wednesday to discuss the tethering issue. Where I'm concerned, how I use my monthly bandwidth allotment is my business and they have no right to dictate limits to what I pay for within the confines of my plan.
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Have you tried putting the phone in airplane mode and then just turning on WiFi? I wonder if its just because the Media Link sees the hotspot on the device as an option, even though it isn't enabled or activated.
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Have you tried putting the phone in airplane mode and then just turning on WiFi? I wonder if its just because the Media Link sees the hotspot on the device as an option, even though it isn't enabled or activated.
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Have the same issue, and putting the phone in airplane enables me to connect it with my tv but only for about 20 seconds. After that, the phone will
tell me that there's something wrong with usb tethering setup thus kills the connection. So technically, connecting the media link with the phone
triggers tethering on the phone, either usb or mobile data which are somehow blocked by atnt.
With regards to gaming mode, it's a mode on my tv that draws in extra frames to smooth things out, only it had a hard time working mostly lag.
As for the media link I doubt I'll need one, as my tv is a D8000 so runs wireless anyway.
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Any New news on this guys? The Media link i have is a glorified paper weight for now... As far as i am aware this only happens on the At&t one..My Bro will be getting the t-mo One tommorow if it works on his ONE I will just probably give hime the media link.. what a waste *sigh...
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Any New news on this guys? The Media link i have is a glorified paper weight for now... As far as i am aware this only happens on the At&t one..My Bro will be getting the t-mo One tommorow if it works on his ONE I will just probably give hime the media link.. what a waste *sigh...
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AT&T shot themselves in the foot ( and screwed the rest of us) by trying so desperately to charge us for tethering.
Assuming we are SOL on this unless using a custom rom?
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Assuming we are SOL on this unless using a custom rom?
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Pretty much for the moment. I tried flashing M7's ROM and it worked fine. Seems AT&T has blocked the WAP/Tethering function in either the kernel, radio, or the ROM. So, the solution would seem to be:
1) Find a ROM you can live with and flash it.
2) Find a Kernel (or radio, if that's what it is) that works with the stock AT&T ROM and flash it.
3) Wait for AT&T to get their heads out of their asses to realize that they're screwing their customers who have peripherals like the Media Link which connect via WAP and fix it in an OTA update.
Rumor has it that there's a 1.29 update out there somewhere. Let's see what happens. In the meantime, those of us who are in this boat should call AT&T's technical support and give them an earful for pushing disfunctional equipment on us. There's plenty of advertising hype from both AT&T and HTC about how cool the phone is, but nothing in the advertising literature that says how they crippled the phone.
I'm in the same boat here. There is another thread about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242737
If I can't figure out a router configuration that fixes it, I may experiment with "rooting" and then trying to kill the com.htc.tetheringguard app. I'd definately rather have it work through my wireless router like it should, but not if I've got to leave the network open/unsecured!
miked4 said:
I may experiment with "rooting" and then trying to kill the com.htc.tetheringguard app. I'd definately rather have it work through my wireless router like it should, but not if I've got to leave the network open/unsecured!
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I am rooted, froze that app (along with all the other AT&T bloatware) with Titanium and it still doesn't work - no link action, no tethering, either.
Frankly, I'm pissed. I understand why they inhibit tethering, especially for those of us who are on unlimited data plans. There are always guys that will abuse it. But this phone came that way from the factory, which means that even those who are on 2G plans are screwed. In either case, if I'm paying for data, it's up to me to decide how fast I want to use it, the same way as if I were to pay for a tank of gas in my car, it's not up to Exxon to tell me I can't drive on the highway.
I was supposed to have received a call back today from the AT&T supervisor to discuss options, but (surprise!) no call. Looks like I'll be having a word or two with them tomorrow - and I have half a mind to demand a full credit on the purchase price of the phone for the amount of time I've spent jerking around with them about this.