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Poll: Thumbs on ur gorgeous screen?

How many of you use your universal's screen with your thumbs???
was just curious
San

Just thumbs, or do podgy fingers count to ?

Shipped with screen protector so no worries

little_rock said:
Shipped with screen protector so no worries
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was a screen protector provided within the box? or did u order that along?
S

My MDA Pro came with a screen protector in the box. Not ordered seperately.
The MDA compact I saw came with one as well

I do worry that using a screen protector will leave my screen looking as if I hadn't removed the sticky protector? As they worth getting? and do they make the display a bit fuzzy?
Cheers, Ash

I use a Brando. Quite expensive but I can't tell it's there. I wouldn't dream of touching the screen without.
I've used an exim but I can't find them on ebay anymore. They were cheap and great on the magician.
Quality is pretty much perfect, unnoticeable. Good enough for me.
But give the choice, 1% possible screen quality loss or £600 worth of PDA scratched, easy choice for me.
Note, you can use my program VJLumos on the Universal to boost screen brightness, if you must...
V

Sounds good, I'll take a look in Google for some pricing
Thanks!

I do almost everything on my Exec using the keyboard exclusively so I hardly ever touch the screen. When I do I tend to use the back of a fingernail to minimise the marks I make.
Had an XDA2 for two years with no case or protector and that survived just fine, so the fact that the Universal can be flipped closed in my pockets means there's even less risk to the screen. I'm hoping it'll be OK.
Incidentally I'm now using hardly any third party software and my Exec is fast, reliable and very easy to use without the stylus. I'm actually thinking I might not bother installing Agenda Fusion even if they release the WM5 version. Dialing a number from contacts with the built-in app couldn't be easier.

SiliconS, you're like a kindred spirit!! hehe
Agree with everything you've said there. Use stylus / back of fingernail if needs must, but otherwise it's keyboard all the way. I also agree with your comment about not needing any other PIM. I'm sure people using diary events more regularly and intensely will need something more, but for the average user there's no need.
I also have very little 3rd party software on it. Runs a dream.
Ant

Anton.Valleyman said:
SiliconS, you're like a kindred spirit!! hehe
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Your post count is slightly higher than mine. Must be all that duplicated duplicated information.

what is the best screen protector for its price and where can you get it from for the UK?
cheers

I never worry about using my fingers (or thumbs) on my screen, although i should get a screen protector as i had one on my xda2i and it seemed to make it better for scibbiling notes with the stylus.

When I bought my EXEC, I made sure I already have the screen protector prior to actually getting the device. I try to use the keyboard in most functions as it is intended to. Only about 5% of the time that I use a separate stylus to navigate on certain applications. I don't use the built-in stylus because mine is really flushed to the holder for some reason and I don't want to scratch or loose my grip while taking it out causing my lovely EXEC to fall off my hands.

Brando so thick?

Hi there,
finally I got myself a Brando screenprotector after everyone that you read is very positive about it, but i xperience that it makes the screen much more insensetive, i almost have to hold the screen all the time when i tab the screen. before it was much more sensible...are there different brando models, and i got the one that is superthick?

I know there are two kind of screenprotectors by Brando (in my preferite shop in Rome i have seen two of these), one of these is more slim
I think you have the other model and me too
Because also for me the display, wuth the screenprotector, is more insensitive
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HI, Ive used these protectors for years now and havent found them a problem. It's true that you need to be a little more 'positive' on teh screen after they are applied.
However compare this to one day scratching or damagaing your very expensive screen and turning your Universal into a door stop!
There are two types... Ultra clear shiny style (which i use at the moment) and a anti glare version (which is better for outdoors sometimes as less reflections)..... Also the difference is that they dont stick to the screen, they simply stay there with the tack of the backing, thus you dont damage the screen when you try to remove them.

where in Rome?. I'm going to visit Rome in 3 weeks and I might pass by there

It's an Exec. The lid will close. Why do you need a screen protector? FWIW my 30-month old XDA2 has 3 very minor scratches on the screen that you can't see unless you look *very* carefully. The way I achieved such longevity was simply to not put the device in the same pocket as anything metal (e.g. keys, money) - seemed kinda obvious to me. :roll:

Yorch said:
where in Rome?. I'm going to visit Rome in 3 weeks and I might pass by there
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The shop name is Playtech and the address is: VIA SUOR MARIA MAZZARELLO 44
This is the site: http://playtech.it/
It's not near the centre but if you want i can post you a map with the shop signed inside.
PS: I hope you will have a nice trip in Rome :wink:

[REVIEW] Nushield Screen Protector for Kaiser

My review of the screen protector from Nushield.
(Purchased 2 anti glare, 1 clear model screen protector [comes in a package of 3 only]~ 12 USD)
Install:
-Installation is pretty straightforward but requires some experimenting to get the film in.(Doesn't use a sticky film, but rather a slide in)
-Warning, Make sure that there is no dust under the screen! It is a pain to take out. Trust me i know, i accidently wasted a film by bending it to take it out.
-When you first get the product, u might think that the screen protector they sent you wasn't yours since it looked to big to be fitted in. But actually it fits perfectly once u manage to slide all sides in.
Sensitivity loss:
-On a scale of 10(10 meaning no sensitivity, and 0 meaning no screen protector) it receives a 1.
-However, I did find a HUGE improvement in the touchflo scrolling than without the screen protector.(If you own a kaiser, you should know of the smears and awkwardness of sliding ur thumb to scroll.)
Overall feel and look:
-I actually dont notice it, and it is fingerprint proof.
-Using touchflo feature, the thumb easily slides across with no smears, in other words i dont get that suction feeling.
-And dont forget this is a slide in, so you dont get those bubbles you get from using the provided screen protector you got with the kaiser. The screen protectors surface is really smooth, its like sliding a thumb across a sheet of printing paper)
PS: I have not tried the clear film yet, and dont think i have to. The antiglare film seems to be secure and feels as if it can last years...
My rating for the nushield screen protector is a 9/10.(would be 10/10 if it was easier to install, but then it wouldn't work as good )
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.

Thanks for that, i was looking for a good screen protector but i didnt want those sticky ones. This is perfect and from your review, it seems to do a great job too!
Thanks, i just ordered one, but as you said, there was no 'kaiser' ones so i just ordered it for the tytn

I'll always be a fan of PocketPCTechs.com's WriteShields. And during October, you can get 20% off if you use this coupon code: PPCTRC1007
Type it into the Special Instructions field.

Just as an FYI to anyone else considering ordering the NuShield: I decided to try some based on this review, and also decided to get two anti-glare and one clear. I got the following response:
While we are always trying to be accommodating to our customers
special requests, this one has gotten out of hand. Someone must have
posted on a discussion board that we will do this. This request is
now occurring several times daily and represents a significant amount
of time and effort to put these special packages together.
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Guess they don't like doing that very much.
EDIT: and fwiw, they appear to currently be out of anti-glare anyway, so I ended up ordering clear.

Martin Field's OverlayPlus
Best. Screen protector. Ever. Period.
It's non sticky, invisible, and best of all: If you mess up (e.g. bubbles, dust) while putting it on, you can just rinse it off with water, let it dry for a few minutes (or blow dry), and voila: It's clean and sticks again.
I've been using these things on my mobile phones, PDA's, Nintendo DS, etc, for as long as I can remember. Even after 5 years, you can simply take the screen protector off and your screen will look brand new.
Already have a small scratch? Put the screen protector on and it's gone

ekw said:
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.
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I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?

GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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Unless it's an unusually small screen protector for the TyTn/8525, you are correct that it will be too large for the Tilt. I had to trim about a millimeter off of each dimension of my Boxwave ClearTouch Anti-Glare for it to fit.
I really like the Boxwave protectors. I had one protector last for over two years on my Treo 650, and similar to another protector described, if you want to clean it just use hand soap and water and stick it right back on.
In fact, I found that if the protector is slightly wet, it is much easier to get the bubbles out. It took almost no effort after I trimmed it when I put it onto my Tilt's screen.

So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?

I just ordered 2 BRANDO superclear ones ... have had a lot of phones and have had a lot of screen protectors but i have to say brando is DEFINATELY the best.

Noiz said:
So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?
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I've never came across any that would. The only thing that helps is the... ummm, shade.

GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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I confirmed it in my review. BTW Dont be stupid and trim it, it fits perfectly, trimming it would cause it to be loose once its in which will become an annoyance.

I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.

d12ag0n49 said:
I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.
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keep trying to fit it in, if you read the original review he says that it's very hard to get it in there, but once it's in...it's gonna do good.

I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.

d12ag0n49 said:
I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.
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wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused

a lot of 99 cents only stores have 10 for 1 screen protectors that are larger than the kaiser. i bought like 5 of these (50 count) and just cut them to the size of the manufacturer's protector. it takes about a minute and avoids the highway robbery of screen protector prices.

ghaith_d said:
wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused
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Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.

d12ag0n49 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.
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aaaah, makes sense. I already have my 6gb micro sdhc and my nushield protectors...im just waiting for my kaiser

Nushield now has a drop down menu for Tilt in ATT and TyTn II in HTC sections. I will order them since it seems like a pretty good value.

i ordered a shield from shieldzone.com
i have used them on my blackjack and digital camera, but never a PPC device so I will have to see how well it works..

Whats the Best Screen Protector for Kaiser?

I bought an el cheapo one from ebay and not only does it feel horrible to the touch the edges are starting to fray. I had bought one for my ppc 6700 like 2 years ago that looked like nothing was on the screen and had great tactile feedback, which ones do you recommend for our kaisers?

I have purchased many screen protectors from cheap sites as well as expensive ones. My favorites are the ones from InvisibleShield. They are a bit more expensive, but they are very precisely cut and last a long time. If they ever get scratched you can get them replaced for free as well. I have not tried BodyGuardz, however, which are the same price, but you get two instead of one in the package.

I like the Boxwave Cleartouch a lot.
If you are anything like me, buy the three pack because you'll probably mess up at least one putting it on. While they say you can wash and reuse them, I don't think it's worth it.
That and a can of compressed air to blow the dust off before you put it on and you should be good.
Side note about using a compressed air can - don't use the straw. I had it blow off directly at my screen and thought my screen was permanently damaged. Thankfully, I had been using the screen protector that came with the tilt which has a bit of adhesive on it, so I only "scratched" the adhesive.

mZimm said:
I have purchased many screen protectors from cheap sites as well as expensive ones. My favorites are the ones from InvisibleShield. They are a bit more expensive, but they are very precisely cut and last a long time. If they ever get scratched you can get them replaced for free as well. I have not tried BodyGuardz, however, which are the same price, but you get two instead of one in the package.
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I have one of the InvisibleShield HD ones on mine, it is really crisp/clear, doesn't really show fingerprints at all, and its been on my phone for a few months now, and still looks like new.
The only thing I'm not sure of, is that it seems like it may reduce some of the sensitivity of the touchscreen because it is thicker, YMMV though.
I also have the bodyguardz themselves on too, and I'm not nearly as impressed, I'm probably going to pick up one of the Seidio slim rubberdized cases, just trying to spread out the accessory cost right now

I like...
... the one it came with. Still looks new.

im in the UK, i buy 3 screen protectors for asda for £2.99 (guessing thats about $5), so id guess walmart would be a good place to look for cheap ones.
ive had to cut it down to size for my hermes but the screenie i have on it has last over a year
ive also put these screenies on family and friends phones and cameras, no one come back to yet complaining.

My first windows mobile device was in 2002 and i tried every cover for it. From cheap ones to a couple of the more expensive ones. One of which was the PocketPCTECHS writeshield protector.
I bought the double pack, which came with the Antiglare one, and the Crystal Clear one. I applied the Crystal Clear one and it was amazing... i never used the anti-glare till i got my next device and threw it on that one.
They are very durable, can barely tell they're there and are just amazing...
But for my kaiser, i just ordered the invisibleshield for the entire device so i thought, why not let me try their screen protector out and see how it holds up.
so till i try out the invisibleshield, i'm still recommending pocketpctechs.

Martin Fields. As long as you install it properly (cleaning part is very important), you don't even know it is there.

This topic has been covered numerous times before:
Martin Fields Screen Protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358845
What is the best thing to protect my screen?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353006
Invisibleshield - Does it affect touchscreenability?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353394
liquid screen protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352818
ClearTouch Crystal Screen Protectors - How Do I Remove?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349407
Using another screen protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344452
Brando screenprotectors available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329280

Expert Shield screen protectors are just as good as the Martin Fields and a fraction of the price. You can get it for $7.25 shipped.
I have purchased from this ebay seller MANY times. Great communication and fast shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ES-Screen-Prote...yZ116221QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
www.expertshield.com

Registry tweak for screen sensitivity really helps
Think if you using the highe durability thicker screen protectors the increased pressure sensitivity will help alot - am just using the one that came with the TILt on it and it greatly improves tactile feedback and response is almost instantaneous with very minimal pressure
Q: How do I increase the sensitivity of the touch screen?
A: If you want to increase the sensitivity of the touch screen, I recommend setting the registry key (HKLM\Drivers\?TouchPanel\Pressure Threshold) to 5000. It may seem a little high, but the response time is practically instant, and very little pressure required (still enough to avoid accidental presses).

thoughts concerning Martin Fields & Expert Shield protectors
Mine is another vote for the Expert Shield and/or Martin Fields.
Just got it at around seven bucks shipped from eBay. I (prior to this) ordered a Martin Fields and had a difficult time applying it to my Tilt without creating air bubbles. I'm clumsy. and I sneezed half-way through. It's definitely high quality and far better then what shipped with my Tilt. Anyway, I took it into the bathroom and left it to dry so I could attempt to re-apply it later. There, it promptly slipped into the space between the sink cabinet and the tub. Goodbye Martin.
* sigh *
The ES protector seems to be just as good - they're both excellently cut and you can't go wrong with either of them. I don't feel it impairs the screen at all - stylus and finger use ( I use my finger all the time ) are pretty much as it was without the protector. Maybe a tiny touch less sensitive, if you're picky....one can increase sensitivity to compensate. I myself did not find this necessary.
I hope this can be of use to anyone considering the choices. I think a screen protector is a must if you care about your device. I had little regard for my HTC 8125, which lived in my pocket up until last week. The screen held up pretty well, considering it's been to PPC Basra and back. It shared the pocket with my keys, various automotive tools, nuts, bolts, and large quantities of quarters.

m.photo said:
Mine is another vote for the Expert Shield and/or Martin Fields.
Just got it at around seven bucks shipped from eBay. I (prior to this) ordered a Martin Fields and had a difficult time applying it to my Tilt without creating air bubbles. I'm clumsy. and I sneezed half-way through. It's definitely high quality and far better then what shipped with my Tilt. Anyway, I took it into the bathroom and left it to dry so I could attempt to re-apply it later. There, it promptly slipped into the space between the sink cabinet and the tub. Goodbye Martin.
* sigh *
The ES protector seems to be just as good - they're both excellently cut and you can't go wrong with either of them. I don't feel it impairs the screen at all - stylus and finger use ( I use my finger all the time ) are pretty much as it was without the protector. Maybe a tiny touch less sensitive, if you're picky....one can increase sensitivity to compensate. I myself did not find this necessary.
I hope this can be of use to anyone considering the choices. I think a screen protector is a must if you care about your device. I had little regard for my HTC 8125, which lived in my pocket up until last week. The screen held up pretty well, considering it's been to PPC Basra and back. It shared the pocket with my keys, various automotive tools, nuts, bolts, and large quantities of quarters.
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Sorry to hear about your situation. I know I've screwed up a few of mine in the past. I have Expert Shield protectors on every device I've owned. Nokia 6820, 6822, E-70, PSP, my girl's Sony-Ericsson w850i, LG Shine, my friend's LG Chocolate and I've never had a problem with them.
I'm glad you enjoy yours as much as I do.

has anyone ever tried these?
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42588.html?gclid=CPeS1r25xZMCFSQtagodiEn8Cw

I got the Boxwave Cleartouch Crystal and the Anti-Glare, used both for two weeks and I settles on the Crystal..
I just don't like how the Anti-Glare makes the screen look, the Crystal on the other hand is like having nothing on the screen at all it's perfectly clear and well the Anti-Glare really wasn't Anti-Glare..
both are nice and thick and I didn't have to adjust the sensitivity on my Tilt either to use them

WriteShield
Hi,
Someone can say me if WriteShield Screen Protector fit exactly the screen size of the Kaiser without leaving some screen surface unprotected ? Or which one fit exactly the screen's size ?
Thanks in advance
Moo

long(er) term screen protector reviews?

(I will just be asking about the clear film types)
So its been a while since people have bought up different kinds of screen/body protectors - any long term reviews now?
I am specficially looking for the best one to just cover my screen and maybe the part below that. I have the euro matte back which I feel resists scratches well enough on its own.
Two criteria:
1) fit well. None of this invisible shield "kinda fits ok" stuff
2) be the hard-type material (like the original HTC protector it comes with) for ease of stylus use.
thx much!

I heard this works great,
http://www.martinfields.com/US/dis_product.asp?model=HTC_ProTouch&modeln=Touch Pro&prod_type=screen
This will be my next purchase.

I'm still using the one that came with my Fuze. Still looks good

mine is getting pretty roughed up as of late - i ordered the martin fields so hopefully that works out.

EXiM
I highly recoment the EXiM screne protector (go for the ultra clear variety) I've used one on my DSLR for years with no faults and i have had one on my touch pro for a few months now and it's still scratch free and stylus friendly. a bit more pricey than other screen protectors but it's worth it.

I have purchased the martin fields protector and using it for about 2 months.
I'm trying to keep my Touch Pro at his case at all times exept when using it.
I must say it's not as good or as durable as it's were advised.
After 2 month the screen protector is filled with scratches!!! and it's mentioned in there site that it's high scratch resistance???

hmm that sucks dotanfe - ill post up how mine handles it.. in 2 months

Brando Workshop
I've gone through a few; factory protector, Ghost-Armor, case-Mate privacy screen and now the Brando Workshop Ultra-Clear. Factory protector was improperly cut, the Ghost-Armor was too thick and had bad orange peel, the privacy screen was way too thick and dark.....I've used the Brando for a month now and am very happy. The protector is hard, crystal clear and thin gauge. It is hard to tell there is a protector on the phone. Ordering is easy but they come out of Hong Kong so it took me a couple weeks to get it. Check it out.....
http://shop.brando.com.hk/index.php

well i got and installed the martin fields protector.
Pros:
-Super easy to put on
-Very clear (no orange peel)
-Feels very smooth, finger and stylus scrolling works great on it.
Cons:
-kinda spendy
-not a 100% perfect fit. There is a tiny gap on the side, the avg user probably won't notice but gaps = dirt/dust traps in the future.
-the edges of the protector seems "rough" and doesn't have a clean look & feel to it vs the stock protector. It has a dirty scuffed up look to it as well.
7/10

i got the martin field's when i first got my touch pro last Oct
i went to their office and they applied it for me very nicely (singapore office)
however i peel it off after awhile as scratches start to appear
the quality of martin field's is not as good as it used to be...

My martin fields protector is ALREADY scratched up - it hasn;t even been put through the paces yet. The original HTC protector lasted way longer than this POS did. Heck I don't even carry keys or anything else in the same pocket I do my phone.
Back to the drawin' board

i'll be trying the EXiM or Brando protector next.
thx for the suggestions, hope this experience of mine saves someone the trouble since I didn't listen to the warnings myself

Have been extremely happy with the screen protector provided with my Fuze: has been mounted since mid-Nov and barely looks used (Innocase top shell covers ragged edge that was lifted up prior to install of said Innocase).
Don't play games very often, but do take notes using FITALY & therefore expected lower portion of cover to show significant signs of wear by now.
Have an Exim "Ultra Clear Pro" standing by - and was looking forward to having an excuse to mount it, as have another use for part of the existing protector - but looks like it will be a while before it HAS to go on....
??: Wonder if we can BUY a Protector from AT&T that has same quality as the one that came in the package!?!

rkistler said:
Have been extremely happy with the screen protector provided with my Fuze: has been mounted since mid-Nov and barely looks used (Innocase top shell covers ragged edge that was lifted up prior to install of said Innocase).
Don't play games very often, but do take notes using FITALY & therefore expected lower portion of cover to show significant signs of wear by now.
Have an Exim "Ultra Clear Pro" standing by - and was looking forward to having an excuse to mount it, as have another use for part of the existing protector - but looks like it will be a while before it HAS to go on....
??: Wonder if we can BUY a Protector from AT&T that has same quality as the one that came in the package!?!
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that would be nice, and if they would provide something to protect the lower button/wheel section then it would be perfect!

I'll be staying away from Martin fields then.

Also try Clarivue.
http://www.clarivue.com/detailx.asp?key=Screen_Protector_PDA_HTC_Fuze

I bought some ebay ones. You know, the pack of 3 for $8 that comes with top and bottom part.
I only used top part as I have Ivisible Shield on rest of phone.
After a month of tons of use (I charge my phone a few times per day) I see no visible scratches.
Thing is awesome!

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My martin fields protector is ALREADY scratched up - it hasn;t even been put through the paces yet. The original HTC protector lasted way longer than this POS did. Heck I don't even carry keys or anything else in the same pocket I do my phone.
Back to the drawin' board
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Same with my Martin Fields protector. Yesterday morning, I also just noticed that the bottom protection piece isn't even there any longer. Fell off at some point in the past (dunno when).
Ordered a 3 pack of generic ones for el cheapo, off of fleabay yesterday. Hopefully, they will work okay. Even if they scratch easily, at least I have 3 of 'em.

I been using the Brando for about 6 months, you can't even tell its there, no sratches on there,

had the martin fields one since i got my phone on release day for ATT. the only scratch i have is where i sometimes use my thumbnail to scroll tabs in TF3D....never had a problem with it like you folks have described.