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Are you happy with the PPCPE dailer?

Having had my XDA 2 now for a few weeks, and having finally worked out most of the kinks of the really inadequate bluetooth stack (by installing the widcomm stack) I am now moved to address my other annoyances: the very feature poor phone software.
I expected a very configurable phone, but was very disappointed with the microsoft dailer. The short list of features I find missing are:
No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact. This could be very usefully, as you would know who is phoning without checking the screen.
No software to keep track of your calls or GPRS allowance. Even my old nokia from 3 years ago could do that.
No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset. I know you can do it the other way around, why not this way too?
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
Anyways, there is alot more, and people may want to add their annoyances. Im really wondering if there is any software that can replace the microsoft Dailer (like Pocketinformant replaces the pocket outlook).
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Surur

Took me a minute to know what you're talking about.
No, I hate the built-in dialer on the Pocket PC.
The author of mobidial (http://www.mobidial.com) told me there will be an XDA II version.. hopefully soon.
-arebelspy

hey,
just a few comments....
re: No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact
- i beleive the o2 xda site has free software for download; one of which is called powercontacts. i believe it allows you to assign a ringtone to each contact. i tried it when i still had the xda1...never got it to work. so, i downloaded a trial version of ringtonex; it works like a charm and i'm able to assign individual ringtones to any contact i want. i immediately bought the software, i think it was for around 9usd. now that i'm using the xda2; the software still works great. for ringtones what i did was record the voice of my friends, officemates, my wife, and used those wav files for ringtones corresponding to their contacts. it also works in tandem with the photocontacts app in the xda2
re: No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset
-the xda2 has bluetooth and i use it together with the bt200 headset. incoming and outgoing calls are automatically transferred to the headset.
2 cents worth.
cheers mate
robson

Transferring from phone to headset is a headset dependent thing. My HBH-65 allows me to transfer to phone and back to headset, but my Jabra wouldn't have.

Thx for the great pointers. I am definitely getting the RingtoneX app, and mobidail or something similar, when it comes out.
I just wish that developers would design more for handed use, not using a stylus, especially as bluetooth voicedailing does not work.
About transferring to a headset, I mean after you pick up a call with the XDA, transferring the call to a headset should be possible, but has not worked for me yet.
Another minor peeve, why is the sms option not on the dialler, but on the menu bar, and why is speaker phone also not on the front, but you have to press a key for it. There still needs to be alot of improvement. Hopefully independent programmers will kick in and fix all these deficiencies. It does make you wonder if the developers actually use their own devices or not...
Surur

Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
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i think it's because that most cell phones screens is their version of the today screen
i most surdenly would not wish such a confusing cluttet messy interface on my worst enemy
(yeah of cause not all cellphones are all that bad some many are)

I dont know. At least they should have the battery status on the screen, and the network logo would not be ammis either (currently its difficult to know when you have no reception, or just no reception)
Alot of the stuff thats currently in the task bar could also be bigger icons on the dailer, and it would also make it look less plain and just incomplete, as if its been thrown together at the last minute.
Surur

well not sure if it's much help but if you install some bar like advanced wisbar on your pda you'll have batt status in the bar both in today and the dialer
suppose this is a pre customised vs. free 3. party customising
some people like to set up their device with personal customising and some people want the place they buy it to handle that
in that way i suppose xda and other such devices are more like computers then std phones are
of cause if one get a xda with all the stuff in the preloaded provider rom they get more of that stuff you want
of cause thats not saying that they get enough

Ive been a user of Icbar for a long time, but as notifications is so important on a PPCPE device, and its not supported, I am not able to use it anymore. This is unfortuanate, as I enjoyed knowing what my battary status is all the time.
Surur

If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en

This is brilliant. It would be even better if it could use the phone key insteadof loosing my contacts button. Any idea how to do htis.
Thx
Surur

vetie said:
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)

Qman said:
Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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http://www.mtux.com/info_ring.aspx
-arebelspy

IIWPO: Theft protection in ROM for Himalaya

(Re-published due to forum structure change)
Based of the IIWPO solution initially meant for Wallaby devices (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2526), I created a customizable installer for Himalaya:
See the Wiki page on IIWPO
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/IIWPO
Hopefully IIWPO suprises a lot of thiefs!!!!!

This is way too cool! I really love this software. I hope never to have to rely on it but just to know its there will make me sleep better. Thanks.

Wow!
The link doesn't work, but... there is or could you do something like that for the PDA2K?
Thanks!
Chris

The wiki pages are offline.
Use the Google cache to read about IIWPO.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:Bsy8qCnKXKIJ:wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/IIWPO+IIWPO&hl=en
See attachment for the cab mentioned on the wiki pages.

Edsub,
I am wondering if the already excellent IIWPO could be further enhanced by a simple but witty add-on. I am imagining the capability to receive a Kill-Signal via SMS. If all attemps to recover the phone fails because the person who holds it has not put in a full & proper owner name + address we still have a phone number right? Therefore we can send an SMS to the phone at will. If IIWPO listens for a specific sms subject line then we could instruct it to disable the phone in some fashion that can be reversed and display a message to this end "tell" the thief to return the phone no questions asked etc. If still no luck then we could send a signal forever killing the phone. Am I watching too many spy movies? ;-)
Hope you like the idea. Sounds fun to me. Regards

I like the idea :twisted: , but since am not a CE developer (and I did not develop IIWPO either, just put the parts that were there together for use on a Himalaya) I have no idea whether or not this is possible.
Maybe any of the real xda-developers see a possibility here :?:

k_kirk said:
Edsub,
I am wondering if the already excellent IIWPO could be further enhanced by a simple but witty add-on. I am imagining the capability to receive a Kill-Signal via SMS. If all attemps to recover the phone fails because the person who holds it has not put in a full & proper owner name + address we still have a phone number right? Therefore we can send an SMS to the phone at will. If IIWPO listens for a specific sms subject line then we could instruct it to disable the phone in some fashion that can be reversed and display a message to this end "tell" the thief to return the phone no questions asked etc. If still no luck then we could send a signal forever killing the phone. Am I watching too many spy movies? ;-)
Hope you like the idea. Sounds fun to me. Regards
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This is possible, and was used on an HP Jornado 928 ...
On this handset, a simple SMS containing a specific codeword or PIN would 'lock' the handset so that it could not be used. Quite useful and as far as I know unique to the HP Jornado 928.
Anyone know any different ?
Cheers
Mark

wow!! this would be great for the PPC! ive tried something like this in my symbian NOKIA 6600! and its very useful!! if you change the sim the phone will automatically send a message to your predefined numbers containing some info on the current location of your phone... and if you send a code to it thru SMS it will lock up and it cant be used unless you flash it or something.. i bet the PPC version is even greater!! cant wait for a full version!

Marc MD said:
wow!! this would be great for the PPC! ive tried something like this in my symbian NOKIA 6600! and its very useful!! if you change the sim the phone will automatically send a message to your predefined numbers containing some info on the current location of your phone... and if you send a code to it thru SMS it will lock up and it cant be used unless you flash it or something.. i bet the PPC version is even greater!! cant wait for a full version!
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im using a 7610 nokia n was wondering wat is the software ur using for ur nokia 6600 thanks

I would like the facility to electrocute the new "owner" through the ear when he makes a call, 50,000 volts would be fine. Or maybe a spring bolt that would activate and shatter his jaw.

Perhaps the local police station...
cruisin-thru said:
I would like the facility to electrocute the new "owner" through the ear when he makes a call, 50,000 volts would be fine. Or maybe a spring bolt that would activate and shatter his jaw.
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My wife lost her handphone to some dishonest fella who picks it up and perhaps remove the SIM/off the HP.
Perhaps we can have it SMS your selected police station on startup and replay an SMS with your customised message:
"Yeah baby! I've stolen this handphone and there is NOTHING that you bloody incompetent slobs can do about it! <vulgarities applied here>!"
<repeat 100 times>
In my country, we can have different numbers for neighbourhood police post. The SMS will be repeated as a robotic voice message to the LAND phone as well.
I can at least ensure that the message does not go into a generic 911 number. :twisted:

[email protected] said:
im using a 7610 nokia n was wondering wat is the software ur using for ur nokia 6600 thanks
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the apps name is theft alert! very useful app indeed for the Nokia Symbian that is...

oooops sorry.... double post...
@henrylim
well that is entirely possible!!! and that is a damn good idea you have there!

hey will this work on a WM5 device (PDA2K upgraded)? If so will it be the same steps?

Bluejacking with WM5

I'm trying to bluejack with my M2000 running WM5. I've tryed various software but none of it works, Dose anyone know of any software that will do this? I used to be able to do it in WM2003 just by sending contacts via bluetooth.
Thanks in advance WWWeed........

I would love to find a good pocket pc program that could automaticly bluejack people.on my old P800 i use a program called s-man that does a constant scan for other phones and then sends a message to them over and over again

why would people want to do that ?

Rudegar said:
why would people want to do that ?
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for educational purposes.....

there is such a program, i've used it on my old c500 and my jasjar, it's called smurf, I forget the link, but google it and ye shall find. btw it's freeware and does auto bluejacking

STUNNING, STUNNING, thanks for the smurf heads up, you are a star!

doesnt work ir searches devices and then shows an error and quits =(( help

link
Here's the link:
http://www.gatefold.co.uk/smurf/
(download is below on the page)
Looks nice btw :lol:
And you need the Microsoft Bluetooth stack for this one,
finally 'Jack's Back on WM5'

its true, i can blue jack onedevices and then as soon as it trys again-it just comes up with and error, i wish we had a version of S-man (from p800/P9XX)
if anyone know of some better software then please to tell 8)

Ok im bored with Smurf, there must be a better software out there, i would like to do some blue snarfing for fun, does anyone know of anything better out there?

http://www.inventop.com/proximitymailsetup.exe
i havn't tested it yet,it might be the right stuff

no such luck, im sure it would work on the M1000/M2000, on my M5000 it just says it cant find a bluetooth stack so forget that download

can sum1 please post a cab for the the .net compact v.2 thanks!

the file for compact framework v2 is http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/programming/netcf/downloads/default.aspx
thats from the microsoft web page just click the top link and then download the msi file and it will add it to your activesync for next time you sync up

I cant believe that there is still not a good bluejacking program out there for WM5, or windows mobil all together, how come symbian have loads of REALY good ones and we have like 1 and thats not that good either, i rekon someone is holding out and there is a great on efor us out there!.
Anyone?

bluejacking...
Hold your breath...
I'm currently implementing bluejacking in btCrawler.
It's already working for PPC but I need a few more days to put everything up for Smartphones...
You will be able to send messages AND files!
You can for example create your own "special" version 3 vcard including a photo or sound and then send it with btCrawler.
I'm also planning to implement something like a proximity mode. When a device comes in range a predefined automessage or file is sent...
however, link is: http://www.silentservices.de/btCrawler.html

Blujacking?
What is it? I've heard of Bluetooth...but not blujacking. Sounds like something dirty when you talk about Smurfs and blujacking....LOL

Try Sniper... (M$ bluetooth stack req'd)

Re: Blujacking?
toontimer said:
What is it? I've heard of Bluetooth...but not blujacking. Sounds like something dirty when you talk about Smurfs and blujacking....LOL
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Bluejacking is the practise of sending text or files to other bluetooth compatible devices that support OBEX push. Most people think it has something to do with Hijacking, but infact it's just named after the guy who came up with it named Jack. Bluejacking in not "Hijacking" or "Hacking" in any sense, you can only push, not pull.

Cornholio you are a star!, i didn't relise you had been making this program, you should start a thread to see if many people are interested!, i will try it out, have you tryed using Sman.sis on a sony Ericsson phone, its very good-it might give you a few ideas.
Oink i have got sniper-it seems a bit slow and fragile but i havnt tested it enough to give a good appion so my mind might change

ATOM FUNCTIONS????

Yo gang,
Just wondering a few things about the atom, and hope someone can answer my questions....
1: Can the atom send messages, pics and other material via bluetooth??? I can only see an option to beam
2: Can the atom do loudspeaker phonecalls??? You know answer the phone than go to loud speaker???
3: How the hell do i disable sms plus so my text messages are sent to my normal text inbox... sms plus really blows, but i like the added features in o2 plus...
Hope someone can clarify my questions, or even point me in the right direction to some after market software apps...
Much respect and thanks..
Matt

Firstly I don't have a Atom but I have a IIs which is upgraded to WM5. But all the things I suggest should be similar on all devices.
1. Bluetooth - If you search on Google you should be able to find something which will do what you want it to do. Try http://www.pocketgear.com/ and http://www.handango.com/home.jsp?siteId=1
You should find something, sorry I can't help more. But it is very possible to do it.
2. Loudspeaker - This should be a easy on just hold the talk button down for a few seconds then to turn speaker phone off hold the talk button for a few seconds.
3 SMS Plus - I am sorry but all I can suggest is that you uninstall it and just reinstall 02 Plus. It can be found here http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaIIi/template/O2Plus.vm I think it leaves out 02 SMS Plus let me know how you go.

cheers man..
very cool to know the atom does have these functions, and saves me reading the damn destruction book.. i will post back another reply once i am home from work, and have done a little investigation....
thanks
Matt

about sending the stuffs through bluetooth... first ensure that ur bluetooth is switched on(preferably discovery mode if u want to rcv files too.) Also worth mentioning, please c to it that the bluetooth device where u want to send the file as its bluetooth on and in discovery mode. Now tap and hold on the file(from file explorer) that u want to send. choose beam option. wait for the target device to be found and appear on list. tap on it to send. Voila!!!
please note that some device allows sending/receiving through pair only. bloody bluetooth... has to be blue!!!

Bluetooth Problems! Cant Receive!

Hi!
I have had this phone for a few days and have unlocked and upgraded to WM6!
I am really happy as I have just upgraded from my HTC Alpine!
My only remaining problem is Bluetooth.
A) I have to turn on Bluetooth before I can send a file within explorer.
B) I can't receive files at all! It simply says ERROR on the senders phone.
The latter is the more important one which I need a fix for ASAP. I have trawelled the web and have not seen a fix.
I have obviously made sure that my phone can be detected and to receive all incoming beams as well as pairing them. Still no luck.
I also had a look at Bluezard which looks quite good as an extra, (want to recieve files without it) but it look quite old and no longer in development, is there any other application that does the same thing that it perhaps a bit more modern?
Thanks,
Joe/Jophster

In phone settings there an icon for Beam. Check it if not already check. Then try to receive file. If already checked then try to change the sending device may be bluetooth not connecting because of any conflicts.
About sending you have to keep the bluetooth active/on because there is IR port in hermes so it will not ask you to on bluetooth.

Bluezard
Hi
Well the ROM I was using apparently had problems so I have tried a different one and will experiment. It was so easy with my HTC Apline, it is so annoying to do something so simple!
Thanks for the help!
jophster said:
I also had a look at Bluezard which looks quite good as an extra, (want to recieve files without it) but it look quite old and no longer in development, is there any other application that does the same thing that it perhaps a bit more modern?
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Do you know of any others. Maybe a way to chat via bluetooth or to send multiple files. If not then Bluezard looks like a good solution.
Thanks,
Joe/Jophster

I struggled with the same issue and did as told to do and searched a bit more....
Found the answer here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
It was a fault highlighted in the initail build of
TNT.19199 Series UC (Vanilla/Official/Professional)HighQuality.
and as instructed i installed Dr Yar Bluetooth app and all is well.
Ill post this in the other threads i found and see if it makes people happy.