YouTube..again prbably - Networking

I understand that there are a variety of coversion site available for watching YouTube stuff via a stand alone player but I cant understand why a long standing windows mobile interface is unable to easily cope with such web content!!! Even if clips opened in the stand-alone video player but without the whole 'copy...open convert site....paste...covert....save...open' long winded escapade. Having trawled these forums and many web sies i cant find any alternative. Has anyone come across a better alternative other than buying an iPhone!!! Thats not happening!!!

see "flash video bundle" solution or vTap. google them

www.GoPckt.com
There you go.

Great...just the job for flash video. thanx. Has restored my faith in windows mobile. just a shame for the uninitiated thats it doesnt play flv out of the box. fantastic with web n walk.

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www.tv-links.co.uk site and Windows Mobile

Don't know if this is the right forum to post this...
Anyway, some of you may be familiar with the site above. If you aren't check it out... it's great. Full lenth movies, shows, cartoons, music videos, whatever you would get on your regular TV, neatly organized based on titles and types.
I make extensive use of this site from my computer, and the shows encoded with divx can be saved on the hard drive. However, I seem to be unable to use this very site from my Wizard. Rather, the site opens just fine, but none of the linked content actually plays. I know this is a plugin issue of sorts, I just haven't been able to either find the right ones or get around it somehow.
Tried all browsers... Opera, PIE, Minimo and Netfront... nothing...
If anyone out there knows about it or has a workaround, please post it.
The thing is, TV-Links hosts links to the sites that actually have the video, and these sites vary. For example, a lot of the anime is on veoh.com, so you'd probably need plugins for the individual players.
Can u watch videos from youtube?? I can't.. so i maybe think when i could see vids from youtube.com i would CAN BE able to watch vids from tv.links I REALLY REALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!
DarkevilPT said:
Can u watch videos from youtube?? I can't.. so i maybe think when i could see vids from youtube.com i would CAN BE able to watch vids from tv.links I REALLY REALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!
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This is the choice from our XDA's: http://m.youtube.com (I.E and Streaming Media Player)will do the rest.They are still uploading videos,so if you try to watch the same videos as they have on youtube.com it's not gonna be possible,but little by little we'll get it.
By the way it's also impossible for me to watch the videos from that website in the UK(which seems to be way cool. ;-)

Video streaming with WM6 on BA

I can't stream none of the video from youtube via htc streaming media.
Is there a fix for this? May be i installed one of the cert files wrong?
And what other sites does htc streaming media work on. I wish to test it
Hello –
What videos are you trying to stream?
I am one of the developer who worked on Avot mV which runs on most of Windows mobile 5.0 and newer phone with the idea of searching and playing any video from video sharing sites like YouTube, Google Videos, DailyMotion and other web locations.
Since you’re interested in streaming videos, you might want to download this application and provide the feedback to improve the product.
You can download the application by pointing the mobile browser to http://avotmv.com
Your program is very brilliant and its very efficient in some ways but needs work done for more control of its options.
Downloaded files should store on Card
I think its best for the program to download its video content onto the memory card instead of the internet explorer cache. I was wondering why my phone was becomng so slow and i kept getting these prompts about memory usage. I was looking in the folders for stuff to delete so that the phone wont be slowing down anymore, its was only till i realise it would have to be in the cache. A average user wouldn't have thought of this!
Stop & pause don't respond immediately while playing
I was trying to stop a video from streaming and it wasn't stopping, it took about 10 seconds to respond. I only had avotmv and PIE running.
Playing videos directly from youtube and other sites
It takes a while for the page to load on youtube and it never played. One time i heard the audio playing when i was using dailymotion.com but i never saw the video.
Suggestion: List the respective channels by their website name
I wish there was an option to list the respective channels by there respective name in the channels list. User would like to search by youtube alone instead of every video site. That option would be great for just searching one video site alone.
Its a gem in beta so far, if you wish me to keep working with you on feedback please leave a link to your forum and i'll appreicate it if you offer me a free copy of the software

streaming video, not youtube

I hope this hasn't been covered before. I DID search, so I apologize if it has directly been addressed.
I have some questions concerning streaming video. I have tcmp and have no problems with youtube, but I've got a list of some websites here that I believe are rstp. I tried the htc player from here, but still can't get these sites to load. Some of the sites on these links are network stations (NBC, Fox, etc), so I think it would be awesome to be able to watch these.
http://freetube.110mb.com/
http://www.chooseandwatch.com/
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Another site that I'd like to play, but it's divx and I just can't get it to work
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/
How did you get youtube and TCPMP to work together? I never understood how to get it to work, I have the flash plugin and TCPMP installed but whenever the Youtube video opens in TCPMP it is so jumpy and laggy that its unwatchable, and it never works in full screen.
problem seems to be you're using an MDA (wizard).
The MDA is more than capable of playing streaming media, but you have to remember that youtube videos are not encoded for the low-bandwidth and slow-cpu of a phone.
The Titan (Mogul, which forum you're posting in) has double the CPU power of the Wizard, and can connect over 4x as fast to the internet.
It works just fine on the mogul/Titan.
what are you talking about? I have both the Wizard and the Mogul from Sprint, I am talking about using my Mogul to play youtube videos using EVDO. I know that the Wizard cant play the videos. But I don't know how to setup youtube on my phone.
Go to http://www.gopckt.com/ they have the mobile version of youtube that works really well with tcpmp. all the youtube videos are available unlike the m.youtube.com version
Check this forum. Forget mobile youtube, it blows http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6800-xv6800/90808-full-youtube-access.html
Holy Riviera
Nice found! It works like a charm on my 6800!
riviera said:
I hope this hasn't been covered before. I DID search, so I apologize if it has directly been addressed.
I have some questions concerning streaming video. I have tcmp and have no problems with youtube, but I've got a list of some websites here that I believe are rstp. I tried the htc player from here, but still can't get these sites to load. Some of the sites on these links are network stations (NBC, Fox, etc), so I think it would be awesome to be able to watch these.
http://freetube.110mb.com/
http://www.chooseandwatch.com/
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Another site that I'd like to play, but it's divx and I just can't get it to work
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/
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I've also been looking for decent streaming media links and applications especially ones that are free of charge. I happened to come across this one which I found on the Microsoft site. https://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/domore/msnbc.mspx It only plays MSNBC network media but it works quite nicely. Videos also seem to be formatted specifically for wide screen. They look awesome and they stream rather quickly in my location. Check it out, I think you may like this app and even if you don't at least it was FREE.

HD2 Youtube app is crap!

On my laptop and desktop, I can find official music videos of songs quite easily, but on the youtube app on the HD2, it's very difficult, seems like the searches are filled more with chipmunk versions of the songs that I am searching for.
So what I'm testy about is that the youtube app on the hd2 seems to be filtered so that you can't easily find the good official music videos.
I'm sure it runs tip tops for most of the users and I'm sure this topic will get 100,000 views without a single reply, but I just felt like making it aware that the youtube app is crippled.
That is all.
Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
glcK23 said:
On my laptop and desktop, I can find official music videos of songs quite easily, but on the youtube app on the HD2, it's very difficult, seems like the searches are filled more with chipmunk versions of the songs that I am searching for.
So what I'm testy about is that the youtube app on the hd2 seems to be filtered so that you can't easily find the good official music videos.
I'm sure it runs tip tops for most of the users and I'm sure this topic will get 100,000 views without a single reply, but I just felt like making it aware that the youtube app is crippled.
That is all.
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I feel you! That has happend to me a few times. If someone talks about a youtube video on twitter or something it is a pain in the ass to find unless I know the title literally word for word. Also..It does work really well if I am bored and just want to watch some videos. So It doesnt not suck that bad
It sucks for channels too. I have added several to mine, It does not sort channel videos by post date, I follow several that post a few a week and vlogs would prefer the most recent to be at the top, I cannot seem to figure out the sort pattern it is using, it just seems to randomly select videos from the channel.
When i got the HD2 i thought id shift alot of my youtube viewing to it and get away from the PC, however that youtube app makes for so much work to try and find a channel's most recent video posts that i almost never use the app.
Really all its good for is viewing the "most popular" or "newest" videos that come up on the very 1st screen of the app, or if you know of an EXACT title to search for
The youtube app in the marketplace seems to do a better job with sorting vids, but its a piece of crap to use on the HD2, video quality is horrible. I dont know why there are 2 different versions of the youtube app
mastajest said:
Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
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I think I read there was a regedit for that...but I do not even want to try and mess with my registry.. Hahahaha
mastajest said:
Haven't used it much to look for music videos, so I'll take your word for it. But for what I've used it for, it's fine. I don't like that it doesn't open if someone sends a link to you on an email or text, wish they would fix that.
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Yeah, If you get a youtube url from an email or text, it should open up the youtube app, how hard can it be to set it up like that? It's the littlest things like this that add up.
Like for example, I just youtube'd on my laptop "Like a G6 Far East Movement" and got their official music video, I did the exact same thing right now on my HD2 using the youtube app and it said "No Videos Found".
Something is filtering the HD2's search queries.
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I dont know why there are 2 different versions of the youtube app
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Just answered my own question looking at the about info on the HD2 youtube app, its written by HTC, whereas the marketplace one i believe is written by youtube.
The HTC app is great for viewing if they could just get the searching and the sorting of channel videos straightened out
If I use Opera to search the phrases that find the videos on my laptop, it will find them just fine on youtube.com, but my Opera version has no flash and I don't like Internet Explorer on the HD2. Oh well, It works fine, just doesn't find the official music videos some times, does a damn good job at finding the chipmunk versions of the songs I search for.
I wonder if this is a youtube/copyright issue...Hmmmmm conspiracy!
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If I use Opera to search the phrases that find the videos on my laptop, it will find them just fine on youtube.com, but my Opera version has no flash and I don't like Internet Explorer on the HD2. Oh well, It works fine, just doesn't find the official music videos some times, does a damn good job at finding the chipmunk versions of the songs I search for.
I wonder if this is a youtube/copyright issue...Hmmmmm conspiracy!
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I forget the name of the addon, but there is one that uses the IE browser's flash plugin in opera and it works decently well with youtube. I tried it for awhile, but hated that whatever the addon does it must change the browsers user agent string because the "my account" features no longer work because it cant detect it as a mobile browser.
The addon here here on XDA, some searching aught to find it. I dont have a URL handy
Of course when you remove the addon it does not seem to reset the browsers useragent string to the opera default one. I ended up having to hardreset my phone to get everything working as it was prior.
Youtube and Youtube Mobile are two very different things. Youtube Mobile uses streaming .3gp media, while regular Youtube is flash based.
When a video is uploaded to Youtube, it has to be converted to .3gp format in order for most mobile phones to play it. Obviously when your talking millions and millions of uploads some videos get passed over. Go to www.m.youtube.com in your desktop browser and search for something, you'll see the same results you get on mobile.
Solution: download Skyfire and use real Youtube: problem solved.
Hope this helps.
~Jasecloud4
Judging by the video quality of the videos in the HTC youtube app, im pretty sure it is pulling the .mp4 video files from youtube. Youtube by default serves up the videos on their website in .flv and .mp4. If you use firefox install a plugin called "DownloadHelper" and you'll see the videos available. Each youtube video page has about 6-8 different .flv/.mp4 files linked to it of differing video qualities. When youtube is completely unstreamable in the evenings, ill use downloadhelper to queue up downloads of the .mp4 files of videos i want to watch, and then just sit and watch them all using media player classic from the klite mega codec pack once they all finish downloading. using the .mp4 files and media player classic also has the benefit of being less of a resource hog. flash video playback will peg my CPU at 100% the whole time. the .mp4/MPC combo usually stays under 50%
I think the official youtube app in the marketplace, and the youtube.com that pulls up in mobile browsers uses the .3gp format which looks like utter crap on our HD2s.
agree... it's slow sometimes...
It's been like this on just about every phone I've had. They should really look into making it better, it bothers me as well
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Try downloading the app called skyfire it is a browser that activates the adobe flash features & plays better movies
d0ug said:
I forget the name of the addon, but there is one that uses the IE browser's flash plugin in opera and it works decently well with youtube. I tried it for awhile, but hated that whatever the addon does it must change the browsers user agent string because the "my account" features no longer work because it cant detect it as a mobile browser.
The addon here here on XDA, some searching aught to find it. I dont have a URL handy
Of course when you remove the addon it does not seem to reset the browsers useragent string to the opera default one. I ended up having to hardreset my phone to get everything working as it was prior.
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Is this it (fixOperaFlash)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4273641#post4273641
I successfully have it installed on my phone. Can watch any youtube video now with the stock opera
moonchaser said:
Is this it (fixOperaFlash)? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4273641#post4273641
I successfully have it installed on my phone. Can watch any youtube video now with the stock opera
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Yup thats it, like i said though it changes something, likely the browser's user agent string, so the t-mobile my account webpage will say that you need to use a mobile browser to access this site. basically i think they've changed the user agent string to emulate a desktop browser so sites like youtube will load the full real youtube site and not the mobile version by default.
I wish that addon would leave the user agent string alone, because its not much trouble to scroll down to the bottom of the youtube mobile site and choose to view the desktop version, which i believe it remembers until you clear your cookies anyways so you dont have to deal with it that often
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Yup thats it, like i said though it changes something, likely the browser's user agent string, so the t-mobile my account webpage will say that you need to use a mobile browser to access this site. basically i think they've changed the user agent string to emulate a desktop browser so sites like youtube will load the full real youtube site and not the mobile version by default.
I wish that addon would leave the user agent string alone, because its not much trouble to scroll down to the bottom of the youtube mobile site and choose to view the desktop version, which i believe it remembers until you clear your cookies anyways so you dont have to deal with it that often
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Yeah it does change the user agent in the registry. I found a key in "HKLM/Opera/Prefs/User Prefs/Custom User-Agent" that contains the agent I picked in the fixOperaFlash app. I wonder if one could simply insert the original agent string back (or delete the custom key entirely) with the flash bits still working properly?
Edit: Confirmed, I nuked the above key entirely. Started opera and it had reverted to it's stock user agent. Went to youtube, scrolled to the bottom and clicked the desktop link, then plugged in a video that I know is not available on youtube mobile, worked great. Tmo MyAccount seems to work properly as well.
i just want it to run like it does on android,when i was using my g1 i would search for videos on the browser and all the videos would pop up just like on a computer that wouldnt pop up on the g1 youtube app,then i would click it and play it through the youtube app just fine and great quality. They should of made it like that and i remember someone on this forum told me there was a regedit that you could do to make it do that on this phone but i dont know if you have to flash a new rom or get it from this forum or not.
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Yeah it does change the user agent in the registry. I found a key in "HKLM/Opera/Prefs/User Prefs/Custom User-Agent" that contains the agent I picked in the fixOperaFlash app. I wonder if one could simply insert the original agent string back (or delete the custom key entirely) with the flash bits still working properly?
Edit: Confirmed, I nuked the above key entirely. Started opera and it had reverted to it's stock user agent. Went to youtube, scrolled to the bottom and clicked the desktop link, then plugged in a video that I know is not available on youtube mobile, worked great. Tmo MyAccount seems to work properly as well.
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thanks, ill have to try it out
I have noticed that on the app videos don't appear at the same time as on the desktop version, they appear like 6 hours later...besides that everything looks good.

Youtube viewing on mobile

For example : http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...&search=Search&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&spell=1
When viewing on computer, when searching songs etc, featured video will be on the top, most of the time will be official music video.
However searching on phone using the youtube application, there wont be a featured video and even we have the direct link to the official music video, it can't be played. It will say "The video is not available for mobile"
Any ideas to make youtube searching be the same as computer and able to view those video that wont be available on mobile?
Did you use the youtube player to search the video... ?
Or just the webservice..?
I use both youtube application and browser to search but both is the same, can't display the offical music video of any songs.
try using another app like jetvd, u can search youtube that way and it plays videos that the youtube app cant. and if u long hold on it, you can actually download the video as well
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Any ideas to make youtube searching be the same as computer and able to view those video that wont be available on mobile?
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lol.
Sure, write the content provider a strongly worded letter than you don't care for their copyrights and wish to view things on your phone.
The reason is they have the rights to show the video on a computer only. Those rights don't transfer to mobile devices or devices hooked up to a TV, like the PS3, Wii, or Google TV.
@isiyou125: OMG Thanks, it work now!!
@iead1 : You're wrong, the jetvd apps make it able to play it on mobile!
No. I'm right.
The app you're using is a way to circumvent copyright protection. Officially, YouTube doesn't have the mobile rights to that video.
Yea correct. Anyway I don't care about it when I still able to watch those video "not available on mobile" on my mobile.

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