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I know that most people here already own a Jasjar or MDA and those who don't would much prefer the metalic finish of the SPV or the black XDA when they come out, but for those of you who are after the gameboy DS lookalike version, the VPA a word of warning, I have just gotten off of the phone with Vodafone as I was planning on getting my number transfer code... suddenly theyt start asking questions about why I want to transfer over to another network (no big surprise there) when I explained about the XDA Exec she slammed me on hold and sent me to her supervisor. She went through the options and hit me with some nasty figures...
First off its unlikely they will be getting it in before December
and far more scarily
Even if you sign up for an 18 month tarif at £99 a month (anytime 3000)they won't be selling it for less than £250 for either a new contract or upgrade, it would cost even more on the lower ones.
Although it is still up in the air as to weither they will be stocking the white device at the moment or rebadging the Qtek 9000 when they get their hands on it
something tells me voda won't be shifting many handsets
I've just finished a very interesting conversation with vodafone...
2 days ago I requested my PAC code in order to go for a deal I'd seen for a XDA exec via buymobilephones.com. I called today to get the pac code (takes 48 hours they said) and proceeded to signup with it on buymobilephones.com. Funnily enough their signup process died with an error on the final step!
Few seconds later, vodafone rung me... "We heard you're planning to leave becase you can't get an HTC Universal... we've made some special arrangements and you can have one, it's a Qtek..." he then proceeded to insist it was a Qtek 1620 (which *really* worried me because I think that's an HTC Blue Angel, not a Universal). We debated that for a while and he insisted that it's definitely a universal they're sending me - he described the rotating screen etc. So, it arrives tomorrow, new contract, fair enough, £70 cost, keep my wonderful 100mins for £15 a month tariff (was called online 100, and I'm not a heavy user so expected much higher costs to get a Universal).
So... I'm a very happy bunny (or at least I will be when it arrives tomorrow, and if it's a Universal), and I've only got good things to say about Vodafone right now! I should have asked whether the Qtek was going to be generally available from vodafone... but he did say it was a 'special retention arrangement'!
Matt S.
Let us know when it arrives please and what did you actually get
I am a business user and trying to get info about any smartphone devices is like getting blood out a stone. However they say the Qtek V1640 is imminent and "is the same as the O2 Exec". What finish it is I do not know. I presume it is just a rebadged QTek 9000
I would go and get one from another network, but we have hardware credit with Voda so it is effectively free!
If yours doeas turn up tomorrow I wold be very interested to hear !
T-Mobile and Orange have both offered trial units to keep me going until I can get a Voda one (not told them that!)
I'm not wanting to turn into C/S troll boy around here but ..
They will just blatantly lie to you.
They have to me already reg. billing and handset replacement.
The people they employ are often sub-intelligent and very young and the business methods of these companies are generally appauling.
Don't be suprised if they screw you over ..
I Agree with Gubb
A slightly pear-shaped twist...
Called vodafone this morning to confirm I should expect delivery today. Fine they said, all ok, you'll get it today.
4pm and no sign so I called again... this time, long while on hold... out of stock, no idea when we'll have it, try Monday, we're really sorry. They gave me £10 credit on my account however for messing me about, which is good I suppose, but obviously I'm a bit miffed.
Called back again, this time went through to the retentions team... he checked stock levels etc, assured me that they were coming in on Monday and I'd get it on Tuesday. I won't hold my breath.
HI All
Firstly a BIG thank you to all on this forum how have taken the time to post so much info about the new x7500/Advantage/Athena. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on my pending purchase of an advantage. I realise that it is down to me to decide whether or not to go ahead with my current pre order in the UK but I have some concerns now especially with the ROM and HDD issues raised here,
Basically I need to have a PDA that works well as a GPS and the reported fragility and ROM issues of the Advantage has me a bit worried.
As I said I fully realise that the question of should I/should I not buy it on release is open to opinion. I would jut like to know how many of you out there are going ahead on realease and how many are going to wait.
Thanks Guys
Ray G
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HI All
Firstly a BIG thank you to all on this forum how have taken the time to post so much info about the new x7500/Advantage/Athena. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on my pending purchase of an advantage. I realise that it is down to me to decide whether or not to go ahead with my current pre order in the UK but I have some concerns now especially with the ROM and HDD issues raised here,
Basically I need to have a PDA that works well as a GPS and the reported fragility and ROM issues of the Advantage has me a bit worried.
As I said I fully realise that the question of should I/should I not buy it on release is open to opinion. I would jut like to know how many of you out there are going ahead on realease and how many are going to wait.
Thanks Guys
Ray G
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i will suggest you if you are with T-mobile or don't mind to sign up a contract with t-mobile, get the Ameo.
Only get the Advantage if you want the black one.
The rest of of the people should then get Dopod u1000
weebaldy said:
HI All
Firstly a BIG thank you to all on this forum how have taken the time to post so much info about the new x7500/Advantage/Athena. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on my pending purchase of an advantage. I realise that it is down to me to decide whether or not to go ahead with my current pre order in the UK but I have some concerns now especially with the ROM and HDD issues raised here,
Basically I need to have a PDA that works well as a GPS and the reported fragility and ROM issues of the Advantage has me a bit worried.
As I said I fully realise that the question of should I/should I not buy it on release is open to opinion. I would jut like to know how many of you out there are going ahead on realease and how many are going to wait.
Thanks Guys
Ray G
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Already playing with the toy
The Ameo that is...
I've had some expensive phones and PDAs in my time, and I'm always very careful with my toys. I've never lost or broken any of them. I've owned the Ameo for 48hrs now, long enough to realise that for the first time, I will be taking out insurance for it. That gorgeous, delicate screen won't look so good if I drop the thing, or put it in my pocket wrong, or any other tragedies that I'm already having nightmares about.....
HTC Advantage from 19th April
I received an e-mail after registering for HTC X7500/Athena Updates
Quote from E-mail:
** Exclusive Promotion **
As you have previously requested information on the HTC Advantage, you are now able to purchase any HTC device from http://www.devicewire.com/ and receive FREE shipping and a 5% discount.
Simply visit http://www.devicewire.com/ and use the Exclusive Promotional Code: HTCAE before 10pm, Saturday 31st March 2007 to benefit from this offer.
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Follow link for info from devicewire.com and a price of £679.99 less 5% and no shipping - Code: HTCAE
http://www.devicewire.com/HTC-X7500-Advantage?sc=15&category=2668
Tim
Its a no brainer for me, I have sold my Universal for £200 and im buying the Ameo for £240, my monthly line rental has only gone up by £2.50 (I was with o2 before) but I know have unlimited high speed data access !!
SWEET
I'm not sure when this showed up on Amazon, but it's been in the last couple of days. I've heard that Amazon was going to be the first distributor of the 7501 in the U.S. and it looks like it will be available August 1st. Here's the link to the listing ... http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Advantage...8543?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1178972918&sr=8-1
We can't order it yet, but can you can sign up for an email when it becomes available.
Thats good news for you guys in the US. Should hopefully mean more accessories will start to be released as it appears people are slow on the uptake with tmanufacturing acessories for the Advantage as there isnt too much to choose from.
Also hopefully will mean Windows Mobile 6 for the rest of us Ameo / Advantage owners who are on Windows Mobile 5! I dont mind waiting till August!
x7501
Actually after reading the link you posted.That is the X7500 and Amazon will not be the only organisation selling this device.David of Mad Monkey boy gadgets will have the device on hand when it is released.
I believe this is the 7501 since it has WM6
It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
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It looks like the pictures are of the 7500, since it has the webcamera on the front. Although, in the text it clearly states it's "Powered by Microsoft Windows Mobile 6", which is the key differentiator for the 7501 vs. 7500. I think Amazon just used standard "stock photos" for the ad, just to get it up. If I can get a 7500 with WM6 then I'm all for it, but I don't believe that's offered anywhere yet. What's everyone else think?
Also, thanks for mentioning Mad Monkey Boy Gadgets. Does anyone else have any recommendations of where the X7501 will be available? I don't have any particular allegiance to Amazon, so I would welcome some price competition.
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actually, i see no points of getting the HTX X7501 if you can get X7500. There will be official WM6 update for X7500, it has been confirm and announce already.
So which one will you get? x7500 with front camera and WM6 and you don't need to wait, or x7501 with no front camera with WM6 but you have to wait?
I am still trying to figure out what is there even a X7501, my internal contact in HTC can not answer it, and the best guess is x7501 is target for US market only, but hey, x7500 is also being sold in US now.
Good point
The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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The only reasons I was waiting was to get a fresh WM6 build and to make sure it works with AT&T 3G 1900Hz. I was without my Universal for about 3 months after a disasterous official i-mate ROM upgrade. I ended up having to get a new "mother board" for it in the end and it seemed like an eternity. Evidently the board was faulty and it got locked on the splash screen.
Although, if you think the X7500 is better (with the front camera), the WM6 upgrade will go smoothly and it works on the U.S. 3G 1900Hz AT&T 3G network, I may go ahead and get the 7500. I sure don't want to wait if I don't have to.
Thank you very much for your insight.
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i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
Yes, it does work on the Cingular 3g network. As a matter of fact, it works great. No issues at all on the cingular 3g network.
Doesn't allow video telephony... unfortunatly true. The network is provisioned, sites are being added regularly and SUDs work fine. If you can manage to have someone add the SOCs for you or in some cases write the proper class on your SIM, you can use it. Why oh why marketing chooses not to turn on the switch. Market is ready to pay to use the service, and network deployed should suffice to the extra load. Most sites have enough bandwith to sustain data connection over 3G and video telephony. *sigh* why are northamerican GSM service providers so behind in the offering? Devices, services... I'm moving back to hong kong! Hutchison isn't bad at all in comparison now.
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i am 95% sure it will work in US (some people are already using x7500 in US, you can ask them). And yes WM6 update will run smoothly on x7500 too. So yes, i think x7500 is better. You see, the point is US is not suppose to have x7500 for sell, but some people import it therefore it's now available for buy too. Therefore it's no point waiting x7501.
Bare in mind the reason why x7501 take off front camera is the network in US doesn't allow video call, but hey, you can still use it for taking picture of yourself
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Thanks for the news !!!
That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
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That's great news that it definitely works on the Cingular/AT&T 3G network. I've had horrible reception on my Universal ever since they transitioned to 3G in January. I think Cingular re-prioritized their towers to 3G and left the 2G/GSM network with less bandwidth ... and I can't use the 3G since the Universal 3G is the 2100Hz European version.
Does anyone have a source you would recommend for the HTC version (in Black) for the US? I bought my XDAII and Universal from overseas and I would sure like to buy from the U.S. this time, if possible.
Finally, as anyone heard firm timing on an official HTC WM6 upgrade? Sorry for being a little paranoid, but ever since I turned my Universal into a brick last year I've gotten a little squeamish on doing ROM upgrades.
Thank you all again for the help. I'm hoping others in the U.S. are in my position are reading this and will also benefit from this thread.
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wm6 update will be available in about 2 months
I bought mine from
http://www.dweiniger.com/
which one? 7501?
lennyfl said:
http://www.dweiniger.com/
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Worst... webdesign... ever...
Nara-e-Mastana said:
Which one? 7501?
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Couldn't be, it's not out yet. Or am I lost?
This is incredible !!!
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 (opps ... meant X7500) through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
olliesshop said:
As an update, I ended up buying an X7501 through eBay (http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php).
I just got it a couple of hours ago and all I can say is this completely blows my Universal out of the water !!! I've just done the basic setups for now, but everything went so smoothly. The screen is wonderful and I actually like the keyboard better in some ways. I could go on an on, but that's for another thread/post. I just wanted to thank you all for the guidance ... great advice !!!
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I believe you mean a X7500, the x7501 comes with Windows Mobile 6 and is not released yet...But yea, I love my x7500 too!
hi guys/gals,
just to verify olliesshop, is it the 7500-wm-5 or 7501-wm-6 that you received ?
i,m just down i-94 in ann arbor and had my jasjar up until a few months ago, but it seemed slow and had to be reset regularly, and reception for the phone and data was quite slow, not to mention the poor camera.
ahhhhhhhhh but now that i have the trion, i really do miss that vga screen!
anyway please let us know which version you have,and does it have the front video camera ?, price you paid and how quickly did you receive it ?
thanks,
djsell
First, yes it was the X7500, sorry for the typo.
Second, it came with WM5 and I expect to upgrade to WM6 in a couple months, along with all the other X7500 owners. Also, it does have the front video camera. I bought it through good old eBay. Here's the link to the item ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=220111572595. My research showed only a few X7500 retailers, so I went to eBay to check out the one's sold there. This one seemed like the best deal and they where based in the U.S. (Las Vegas). I called them up and they seemed nice so I went with them ... http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell-phone-555-cheap/HTC-Advantage-X7500---Plus-FREE-2GB-miniSD.php. So far, it's still an incredible machine compared to my Jasjar.
The only 2 minor problems I have so far:
1. The clear part of the keyboard is getting scratched from the "sharp metal" edge of the screen. It's slightly poud of the black case so it scrapes the clear part as it slides over it. So my plan is to wait until there's no interference (after it's worn all the way down) and polish the clear plastic.
2. There's no place to put the keyboard when you just want to use the main part of the device. So I end up putting in my pocket. I assumed it would magnetically attach to the back of the device, but it doesn't seem to.
Overall summary ... I was waiting for the Omni, but it seems like it's turning out to be vaporware or at least not available until late this year. This was clearly the right decision. The Cingular/AT&T 3G works flawlessly in Grosse Pointe, where my Jasjar could barely get a signal anyware after they introduced 3G. The large screen is awesome compared to the Jasjar. I could go on and on, but I will be having tonnes of fun with with for a while.
i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
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i got mine about 2 weeks ago. have a problem when i make calls it drops the call before it rings sometimes i have to send 3 times in a row before the call goes through. also i can receive text messages but i can't send them. not sure if its the x7500 or the sim card on both problems.
other than these issues this thing is great im in grosse ile mi. and my reception is good
had verizon and recetion here was bad
waiting for the rom ugrade
if anyone has any ideas for thes problems please post
thank you
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For your SMS problem; Did you set your SMS centre number in your phone settings?
If you just installed the SIM card after getting the unit then your SMS and Voicemail numbers need to be entered in the phone settings.
I'm in China,I'm gonna buy a new shift,but it doesn't release in Chinese market yet.....Someone could recommend somewhere I can buy it?I can pay it by paypal.
And I have a question about the GSM,is it possible to make a call via.HTC Shift?
Regards,
Brose
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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Hi,koala996....Really really thanks for your help,man!
Frankly I found there have some sellers in ebay.com that they are selling HTC Shift,but I'm confused that their device just is 20GB hard disk,I noted the HTC Shift is 40GB hard disk from the HTC Website....Holy****! What's its exact version??
Wow...U awesome,men! I do hope u will work the phone call feature out in future. Cheers!
Brose
Shift is available in some stores
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
HTC Shift
In fact HTC Shift is already in some countries. But they are kept with the distributors they are not allowed to pass it on to the shops yet. The reason is because they wanted other shops around the world to compete fairly, rather than speculate on it.
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look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
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I live in Bucharest.
Called them and........
What else could you expect.
Huib
P.s. From tomorrow staying a week in Holland. By God I hope I will find one there.
Sorry...
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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In Holland? Yes but Expansys talks about 5 days. maybe ,maybe.
Huib
HTC SHIFT
800MHz, 1GB, 40GB, Vista Business, EU Andere UMPC › Devices Ca. 4 Dagen €1.259,95
Just like all of us they have been very optimistic in their assumptions for a delivery date.
And time after time they delyed it...
But as you mentioned, we will see...
on expansys, the release has been push back once again, man.....i guess i will need to contact my HTC contact to find out when they are really going to release the Shift.
It's not that they are spoiled by unrealistic delivery date provided by expansys. They are actually lying every month by saying this thing is available now... from official PR! and since last october. I understand a company meeting a last minute problem before going on the production channel, but this announcment where done knowing the production was not going, as there is an estimated 2 weeks between the first unit produced and the actual delivery.
That or we have some kind of war going behind the scene between HTC and some other company.
great work ! they lying again! it's ok for me ...i buy an asus r2hv , i can't wait .....time is money , no? for htc maybe not. stupid company!
I can hardly believe that I too am falling into the trap of posting about HTC Shift availability. But here I go.
Clove technology www.clove.co.uk a company who have been trading since Psion days told me that my pre-order of the HTC Shift can now be executed and that first stock is due Tuesday march 04th 2008.
Well since I've waited about 1 year now since the CES display I figure I can wait a few more weeks and see what the reports from this forum will tell. Personally I feel that unless it shows all of good performance, full WM6, GPS, and usable data via SIM we might all be better off waiting for the HP2133 (see http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ ) a product that is surely not going to be a year late.
Hey i found this on the internet, i don't know if it is true or not but the link states that the Shift is now for sale in the UK
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1230
Just got confirmation that my Shift was shipped (from Devicewire)
It's finally in stock
Dear All, i am glad to inform you all that the HTC Shift is finally in stock for order, looks like the wait is finally over. I am getting mine tomorrow, hope you all get yours soon !
Wellcome
Hesitating, Hesitating
danielherrero said:
Wellcome
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I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
HTC Shift In Stock
B"H
The Shift is now available in the USA, here:
www.onthegosolutions.com
Also, it can be shipped internationally, too.
I wasn't quite sure what you meant that it would take x months for the Fujitsu, the 1620 is available, and has been for a while I think. The U1010 is the one that hasn't launched yet.
If a lot of your use would be on the road, you have to think about battery power for sure. I think the HTC Shift has quite a few drawbacks, but I'm personally buying it because I have fallen for it, and I gotta have it :-D I hope there would be an extended battery eventually, but HTC's choice of battery pack and implementation is going to make it hard (I'm sure some third party manufacturers won't miss the chance and would come up with a new cover etc.) I have a 32GB USB and a 16GB SDHC, so hopefully with these two I could remedy some of the issues with low memory capacity on the Shift (I'd rather move the backup to a USB stick if that's possible, but should be).
herpi said:
I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
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Just been speaking to Vodafone to check my order status, as they were supposed to call when more stock was due yesterday. Been told by one of the managers that they were told late yesterday that they now have no future stock dates, as HTC were seeking to fix 'hardware issues' with the phone. She used the word recall when referring to existing Vodafone phones, and then mentioned the camera explicitly.
So for those of us with unfulfilled orders the wait continues.
And for those whose phones see the world with a pink hue, a hint of things to come? Anyone else spoken to Voda in the last 24 hrs?
I thought the pink hue was a software issue, or at last that is what HTC were reported to have said a few days back and they said they would be releasing a fix. If it is a hardware issue I wonder if the same recall is going to apply to HD2s from other networks, like O2 for example? And if those already sold are going to be swapped?
I'm not too fussed anyway as the hue on mine is barely noticeable, but I have seen photos from some where it's frankly terrible. Despite the quality of a camera on a phone being fairly low on my list of important features, if I owned one of those I would be interested in a swap.
I assume the Vodafone dont know what is really happening, I dont think HTC would lie about this huge issue.
After a week of tests on my handset that I sent to HTC repairs. HTC are returning it back to me without them doing anything apart from installing logging software that identifies the sms issue.
It has been explained to me several times that it [camera] is a software issue that can only be fixed with a patch that will be released as soon as they can, they are working on it.
I had a call from Voda yesterday (since I emailed a complaint to the UK CEO, I get regular update calls lol) to say that the stock they were expecting hadn't turned up and that the next delivery *should* be 2nd December
Edit: got another call this afternoon from the nice girl who is keeping an eye on my order to inform me that they may get some earlier than the 2nd, she's going to call me back on Monday.
I have a HD2 from Vodafone and mine is ok ok no problems with the camera. Got it last week
Only yesterday, I was told 11th December by a Vodafone rep, middle of next week by a T-Mobile rep, and possibly monday by an O2 rep.
All of these companies were meant to give me a call as soon as the hansets came in. It turns out I've missed 1 delivery by T-Mobile, 2 by O2, and 3 by Vodafone even though I ordered with them some 3 weeks ago!!!
I also thought the camera was an issue that HTC are working on. If there was to be a recall t would be for all phones, as Vodafone ones aren't branded.
Damn this is turning out to be a hard phone to get.
I had put an order i with Voda Business and voda general public. The latter said it would be with me by Sat, i called on the Friday to confirm and was told that a small batch came in but wasn't available to their department therefore wasn't available for me and they projected the next batch would be in around the 11th of Dec.
I then called back to make my feelings heard and was told that one would be with me by Monday and was already in transit. This it turns out was the phone i ordered through the business department which must have priority over regular customers.
I haven't heard anything regarding recalls etc but haven't spoken to them since Friday, so i'm really hoping it will be here on Monday. If not i won't be happy!!!!
Just to confirm the 11 december date. Vodafone UK informed me on 27/11 (which I had been previously told was the date the HD2 shipment where due into their warehouse) that this will not now be until 11/12.
However if there are hardware issues this may well drift into 2010.
I'd hazard a guess the delay is due to some of the bugs noted in this forum seen on the first shipped ROM.
As many people have said here - the average mobile consumer expects their device to just 'work' when it comes to the basics (calls, sms etc). Vodafone aren't doing their own ROM but instead taking what HTC have provided; this means bugs and all. Trouble is while the average WM user who has paid £500 from Expansys etc would come here to look to fix such bugs, the average Vodafone user would be on the phone / back to the Vodafone shop complaining that their phone is "rubbish, doesn't work, can't use it, refund please". I'd therefore guess this is why they are delaying accepting HTC shipments - until their own QA people are happy.
For the record - while I understand this view - I personally would MUCH prefer them to just send me a phone and I'll update it to later firmware when available. But that's just my personal preference! Guess such things are the price you pay when a high end tech gadget like the HD2 attempts to make it into the mainstream consumer market - you're never going to please everyone. On the one hand HTC should have probably done a bit better with their QA, on the other hand no doubt they were under pressure to release. Whichever way they could have jumped their would have been complainers!! I mean, the people on here complaining about basic bugs - would they have been happier if the phone was delayed until say March next year?! Maybe some would've been, but probably not most.
IMO HTC have to keep people on-board by providing updated ROMS / Hotfixes quickly - weeks not months.
Just my opinion..
How long do these hotfixes take to come? I mean, shouldn't some HTC programming team be able to fix all this in ONE DAY?? (*providing it is software problems of course).
I am stuck here with a faulty handset that O2 can't replace because they have no stock. I'm just wondering whether to ditch it and go with another manufacturer. Even if it was working perfectly (which I somehow doubt will happen) it's still a total nightmare typing on the virtual keyboard. I have to correct virtually every word I type and for a previously hardcore texter, I have actually come to loathe texting. It has become a chore!
sunking101 said:
How long do these hotfixes take to come? I mean, shouldn't some HTC programming team be able to fix all this in ONE DAY?? (*providing it is software problems of course).
I am stuck here with a faulty handset that O2 can't replace because they have no stock. I'm just wondering whether to ditch it and go with another manufacturer. Even if it was working perfectly (which I somehow doubt will happen) it's still a total nightmare typing on the virtual keyboard. I have to correct virtually every word I type and for a previously hardcore texter, I have actually come to loathe texting. It has become a chore!
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Sounds like the HD2 isn't for you re. txt'ing. I felt similar around 2 yrs ago (in that I hated touch screen phones for txt'ing) but have since come round. Each to their own.
Re. the hotfixes etc, sadly turning them around in a single day just isn't realistic. Maybe on a home-brew app, but it is with these sorts of timelines which lead to the mistakes in the first place. I'd say you'd be looking at a turnaround time of 2 weeks MINIMUM from bug identification to public release, most probably longer. While it certainly isn't ideal I'd be happy if they turned things round in <1 month.
I know, I know, not ideal the bugs are there in the first place, but such is life!
hmm... I can undestand what youre saying and I can agree in some of it. But if it is a hardware error with the camera, is dosen´t fit under the decription "bug" in my opinion
As to whriting on the HD2 I totally disagree, it´s so nice and i whrite very fast on it
madindehead said:
I also thought the camera was an issue that HTC are working on. If there was to be a recall t would be for all phones, as Vodafone ones aren't branded.
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Hi Madindehead - is there a way of checking my vodafone internet usage? Cant seem to find it online on my account page?! I know there is a fair usage policy of 500MB but when I checked my phone this morning the notification tab stated I had been connected to the HSDPA network for 6 hours?! am I right in thinking this is just the connection being kept alive?
Also is there any software out there that can monitor my 3G connection?
I wouldn't worry too much about the FUP to be honest, I don't know anyone who got told off for going over. Plus I think that if everybody tries to stay below it they'll never change it, on the other hand if the majority of people goes over it they might "officially" raise it.
Got mine this morning, woot. Would have had it yesterday but Royal Mail suck...
chrisnz1947 said:
Just to confirm the 11 december date. Vodafone UK informed me on 27/11 (which I had been previously told was the date the HD2 shipment where due into their warehouse) that this will not now be until 11/12.
However if there are hardware issues this may well drift into 2010.
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they had a huge batch in on Monday 30th November
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they had a huge batch in on Monday 30th November
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Correct, I ordered mine on-line last night and have an RM tracking number for it to be delivered tomorrow morning
I got mine from Vodafone yesterday, not branded in anyway at all.
My mate got his too from Vodafone on Monday.
Problems I have so far
1. Can't send SMS messages at all!
2. Bluetooth wont switch on
No issue with the camera so far, battery life not too bad.
Can't get any twitter or facebook updates to notify me when screen locked, but then I havent read the manual!!
Lovely phone though
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Correct, I ordered mine on-line last night and have an RM tracking number for it to be delivered tomorrow morning
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You're lucky then! I've ordered through Vodafone business, and they can't access the online stock (why not?) and won't get their own stock until 14th December.
Frustrating.