what is this about, if gps is not working, why do they sell it::
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
ya, this doesn't make much sense.
Looks to me like a TYPO that should read GPRS or external antenna for car with the connector on the cable. BUT it would get a few buying it first and finding the mistake afterwards wouldn't it!
Yeah, it won't work although it is a GPS booster. I use the same make with my tomtom. It would only help plugging it into a GPS receiver that in turn is connected to the TyTn by cable or bluetooth - not as they show it directly to the Hermes.
Mike
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hey guys,
i have a little question,
i just bought a haicom gps receiver and use tomtom 2 software. When i get out of my garage, it takes always more than 15 minutes to get a signal. sometimes during driving i also lose it. How comes?
when i connect my device to the receiver and power, i get something like "connecting to t-mobile MMS"...
oh, btw i have a MDA II with latest NL t-mobile rom. 1.60....
if anyone could help please...
thanks!
The gps should only take this long when first used, after that it should lock in a matter of a couple of minutes, to test the gps properly it is best to test it outside the vehicle, I think most Haicom mouse gps come with magnetic base so stick it on the roof and drive around, if it works better it is probably becuase your car has a metallised windscreen which blocks the signal. The message about connecting to the service provider is an error due to the com port being accessed i think, mine used to bring up activesync every time but once I canged my activesync settings on the xda to manual instead of auto sync it solved the problem.
so i should always drive around with my window open?? and stick the receiver outside the car?
I would agree with Crusin Through - I think your car may well have some form of heated windscreen or heat reflecting windscreen. What car do you have.
If when you do place the receiver on the outside of the car you do get good signal you can get a special anntenna that had an outside part and an internal part that you can fit permanently to the car so you can still move the thing about. Bit like a mobile phone antenna.
Alternatively as you have the XDA II you can get a bluetooth receiver an place it on the rear parcel shelf (I think the wider heating strips won't affect it - but can't confirm it.)
John, I wasnt suggesting you drive around with your window open, I was suggesting a way to ascertain if your windscreen is the problem regarding your blocked gps signal, by the way I have used a gps on the roof and the window will shut almost all the way however as the last post mentioned you can obtain a re-radiating antenna, this will solve your problem if indeed the windscreen is the culprit.
Re-rediating antenna - that's the word I couldn't remember :lol:
ok guys, thanks. i'll try with such an extern antenna.
thanks for your help
Before you spend your money on the re-rad antenna - try the thing on the roof - if this works then the antenna is your only real option if you want to continue with the thing in the front windscreen.
I'd hate you to buy the re-rad and then find it doesn't work.
Incidently what car do you have? (Does it have a heat reflecting or headted windscreen)
And if it works outside,
you still don't have to buy an external antenna, as normally the windshield have an area where is not metal coating...
try to check the manual of your car..
i own a toyota Camry 2002 model, it has indeed a windscreen etc...
My gps system stopped working today. Is there any way of diagnosing to see if its the connector on the phone thats gone tits-up?
I don't know anyone else with an XDA2 you see...
When you say it has stopped working, do you mean no signal, gps not found error or light not illuminating?
I run Tom Tom with a cabled GPS receiver which doubles as a charging cable.
I still get the green charging light, but no GPS signal.
It was working fine. Go into a service station for a bite to eat, and unplugged the receiver. Come back after being fed and watered plug it in again - nothing... No settings have changed, which makes me think its something to do with the connector - either the XDA or the gps receiver.
...but how do I rule out one or the other?
I know this has been up before but I´m still confused.
On this site http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-tytn-c-277_279.html
they sell antenna for the hermes gps.
As we know Hermes has an internal gps but without the internal antenna that is necessary...
So has anyone installed such hardware?
It would certainly be interesting to know if with the external antenna the GPS would work. Looking at it I think it might, the only problem I can think of would be the device recognising the GPS. Great find!! Good on you!!
strandkanten2 said:
On this site http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-tytn-c-277_279.html
they sell antenna for the hermes gps.
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Looking at the product page on this antenna there are som pictures with it installed.
It attaches to the connector behind the rubber protector next to the camera.
Is'nt this the connector for external radio antenna?
Or is there any smart electronics that connects this connector to the internal gps module?
mippen said:
Looking at the product page on this antenna there are som pictures with it installed.
It attaches to the connector behind the rubber protector next to the camera.
Is'nt this the connector for external radio antenna?
Or is there any smart electronics that connects this connector to the internal gps module?
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I wondered the same thing.
This has been discussed to death so many times. Most recently, this exact antenna was discussed in the Hermes Accessories section of this forum (use search, I'm not going to do it for you).
Here's the FACTS!
1) There is some of the circuitry (hardware) for a GPS in a hermes. Some is missing. This is most likely due to the chips that the hermes uses having multiple built in functions. One function was needed so they used a chip that just happened to have part of a gps built in.
2) Adding the rest of the gps harware isn't practical and has a 99.9% chance of destroying the device even if you are highly experienced in working with surface mount components.
3) Even if you added the antenna, etc. successfully there is no firmware to drive it. You still need to write everything from scratch and make the firmware work with the rest of the pda/phone. You would have to do this without benefit of having any existing source code for the pda. Good Luck
4) Assuming you managed to do all this, and plugged in this antenna, you would have a gps that needed this big ugly antenna wired to the phone. So why not just spend the $50 and buy a bluetooth gps that works without wires and doesn't need the phone modified?
5) The store selling this antenna have stated to queries (see other threads) that this antenna is for use when using an EXTERNAL gps with the hermes. In other words, some bluetooth and wired gps units that work with the hermes have an external antenna jack so that if they are used in poor conditions this antenna can be used to boost the range by placing the antenna outside the vehicle, etc.
6) You cannot use this antenna plugged into the hermes external antenna jack. it will probably destroy the phones radio instantly and permanently. In fact, its a very bad idea to use any external antenna with any radio that wasn't specifically designed for the radio. There are many reports of frying the radio by using 'universal' cell phone antennas.
In conclusion.... GIVE IT UP!
There is no usable gps in the hermes!
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In conclusion.... GIVE IT UP!
There is no usable gps in the hermes!
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ok then, anyhow very misleading pictures on that site then.
why would i install a wire to my phone if i have gps on bluetooth. makes no sense.
Ps. I knew this was discussed earlier but I wanted uptade on if someone tried it recently.
strandkanten2 said:
ok then, anyhow very misleading pictures on that site then.
why would i install a wire to my phone if i have gps on bluetooth. makes no sense.
Ps. I knew this was discussed earlier but I wanted uptade on if someone tried it recently.
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deach01 is correct. I agree the people selling this antenna should make it MUCH clearer as to its purpose.
To the best of my knowledge all development work has stopped, on getting the partial GPS functionality of the chip to work on the Hermes for the reasons deach01 states - it's just not practcal, and as said already the bluetooth receivers work well without major surgery to the Hermes.
Mike
Total BS! That site actually shows a picture of that antenna plugged into the back of the Hermes, talk about misleading!
deach01 said:
This has been discussed to death so many times. Most recently, this exact antenna was discussed in the Hermes Accessories section of this forum (use search, I'm not going to do it for you).
Here's the FACTS!
1) There is some of the circuitry (hardware) for a GPS in a hermes. Some is missing. This is most likely due to the chips that the hermes uses having multiple built in functions. One function was needed so they used a chip that just happened to have part of a gps built in.
2) Adding the rest of the gps harware isn't practical and has a 99.9% chance of destroying the device even if you are highly experienced in working with surface mount components.
3) Even if you added the antenna, etc. successfully there is no firmware to drive it. You still need to write everything from scratch and make the firmware work with the rest of the pda/phone. You would have to do this without benefit of having any existing source code for the pda. Good Luck
4) Assuming you managed to do all this, and plugged in this antenna, you would have a gps that needed this big ugly antenna wired to the phone. So why not just spend the $50 and buy a bluetooth gps that works without wires and doesn't need the phone modified?
5) The store selling this antenna have stated to queries (see other threads) that this antenna is for use when using an EXTERNAL gps with the hermes. In other words, some bluetooth and wired gps units that work with the hermes have an external antenna jack so that if they are used in poor conditions this antenna can be used to boost the range by placing the antenna outside the vehicle, etc.
6) You cannot use this antenna plugged into the hermes external antenna jack. it will probably destroy the phones radio instantly and permanently. In fact, its a very bad idea to use any external antenna with any radio that wasn't specifically designed for the radio. There are many reports of frying the radio by using 'universal' cell phone antennas.
In conclusion.... GIVE IT UP!
There is no usable gps in the hermes!
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If they used a chip and it had GPS as a bonus and they just ignored it, why then would the go through the troubleb of adding an external antennal connection and mod the device housing to accomandate it?
The external antenna connection is NOT for GPS. Its for the cell phone radio.
Don't believe me?
Go ahead, plug in an antenna!
Hope you can communicate by smoke signals as your cell radio transmitter final amplifier toasts itself.
THERE IS NO WORKING GPS IN A HERMES!
Do you really think that HTC would build in a feature like GPS and NOT market it?
An expensive option, Kaiser!
An expensive option is to go for Kaiser(soon to be at&t 8925 ?)
Does anyone know for sure that at&t is NOT gonna kill GPS on Kaiser? Just heard today it has pass thru FCC (
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/windows-mobile/-283367.php )
As soon as the Kaiser comes out over here I'm going to get one, it's like the WM version of the N95.
The topic titels says enough. I have got a cheap SMB connector wired GPS antenna, I can plug it in the PDA, but my GPS program can not find any GPS signal. Are there any settings I need to change or is this simply a mission impossible to make it work?
I just got my hands on a rds / tmc reciever from tomtom. It has a connector which is on the tomtom go's. I was wondering if it is possible to connect this to my kaiser by an adapter. I also was wondering if anyone could tell me what type of connector the external gps port is and what type of port is on the go? Perhaps I can make my own adapter but I need to know what type of port it is.
Kaiser already have the built in GPS?
Why you want to built the adaptor for??
I do not understand what you asking here....
It's a TMC rds reciever from tomtom. It will update any traffic jams and mobile speedcams. It would be great if I get it working on the kaiser. It seems that the coax connector in the kaiser is a MS-147-C(LP)-2 connector. The tomtom tmc module has some sort of a 2,5 mm jack connector but with a metal ring around it. I can't find the name of the connector anywhere. But I'm sure if I can find out the names it would be possible with navigon to update traffic on route.
yes, i'd also like to know what kind of connector is on the AT&T Tilt/kaiser. i bought an external gps antenna for better signal, and thoght id figured out that it uses the MMCX style connection, but after receiving it from Ebay, it does not fit. Now i ned to find an adaptor to got from MMCX to Tilt GPS external connector, or splice a new correct end onto my external antenna.
Shaggy
The port on the Kaiser is only a connection for an external GPS antenna. The Tomtom RDS device uses a proprietary data interface that doesn't carry the same kind of signals at all. You won't be able to connect it to the Kaiser.
I found the MS-147 connector at HighRose corp, but they want $25.00 US for that tiny little connector. I only paid $12.00 for my ext gps antenna. So, I'm trying to go the sample route for a free connector. Said they were gonna ship it this March. Long time to wait for it, but better than paying that crazy amout for such a tiny connector. I could machine a one'sy order like that on the lathe at work for way less $$$ than that. And they are prolly running them on a CNC Screw Machine, pumping out 1 part every 3 to 10 seconds. Uggghhh.
Shaggy
This just isn't going to work, stop trying and either give the RDS/TMC receiver to someone who has a compatible TomTom or put it on eBay. believe me this won't work....
Just buy Garmin Mobile XT for your Tilt. It has traffic updates.