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Is there way to add a sound to the opening of the keyboard?

Well the topic says it all.
I want to add a sound to the opening and/or closing of the keyboard.
Is this possible?
Thanks

Any hacks for this? I suppose that the opening of the keyboard calls some kind of an event (since sliding it open changes the screen orientation) So can this same event call be used to assign a sound as well?

I also want to kno this and was going to ask right before I came 2 see this link...so please answer!

There are some really talented people here. I would have thought someone would have done this by now. But I assume, from lack of info, that this hasn't been considered before?
Would someone, who has the skill set to do this, consider looking into it and seeing if it is possible?
Thanks a million!!
Have a good one

Try this thread.....
Cheers!

That thread refers to the Herald, or Tmobile Wing. I found this thread and thats all I've been able to find for the Wizard or Tmobile MDA.
There may be a registry key that needs to be modified/added after installing the HTC Sliding Sounds application to make it 'active' for the Wizard.
Any ideas?

Im trying to figure it out too.. I dunno how to get it to initiate...

Need someone with the Herald (T-Mobile Wing) to help
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!

chris.wilcox said:
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!

I installed the software that was made by JUVS....it does not work on my MDA.
Any other ideas? I had tried searching before I made this thread initially, and i had not seen the 2 that are discussed here. I apologize for having made a 3rd one.
Back on topic, I certainly hope this can be made to work. Any other ideas?
Thanks for all the info so far.
Later

this is a really cool idea, i would also like to know how to do it...

freakingwilly said:
I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much! This does help!
Unfortunately, I have the same keys on my MDA after installing the application for the SlidingSounds and it doesn't make sounds when I open the keyboard physically. I'm suspecting that the MDA is missing something, possibly a hardware switch (don't think so, though, cause it has to detect when the keyboard opens for landscape mode).
My guess is that this will not work on the MDA

Umfortunately I'm not a programmer, but I was thinking that the easiest way to get somethig like this to work would be to link the sound to play with the screen rotation instead of trying to get it to work when the keyboard is slid out which obviously isn't working anyway. It would play the sound if you rotated your screen manually, but I can't see why that would be a big deal. Maybe someone with a little programming knowledge could get this to work though.

I wanna keep this thread alive. SlidingSounds is something i wanna see work for wizards. It'll be cool if someone could craft a workaround or a new prog altogether.
Opening the keyboard is an event, shouldn't be hard to craft something to have it make a sound.

Any updates on this? I downloaded the app and it hasn't done anything, especially when messing with the registry. Thanks.

I've been working on tis as well but it seems that there is no way to adjust the registry to get it to work. I believe a app is gonna have to get the wizard to have this feature.

This would be so cool.. Alot of people have 'flip' style phones, and when they open them, they have some funny sounds. Would be great to have on the Wizard!

Anybody figured this out yet? I'm really sure it can be done.

im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it

Bells and Whistles.
ndn715 said:
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
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Maybe because we love the bells and whistles a gadget can make, it's all about your custom love that you want to have, not just everyone's universal preference. Some of us love to customize our phones to suit our personality, not just YOURS. Maybe these sounds grab attention of chicks, maybe this wallpaper makes us look cool in the sight of geeks. It's all personal prereference.
That's why I want keyboard Sliding Sounds to work. It's just one more thing that will grab the attention of people to see that, yes, I don't need a new phone every six months or so. I can make a new one using an old one by utilizing hacks.

New to 8525 and have some questions

Hi I just got the phone today and have been reading posts on this forum.
I have a couple of questions.
1. I used to have 8125 and the way to change right volume was on the side of the phone now 8525 has a scroll weel there how can i change the ringht volume or atleast to vibrate with a button without going into setings?
2. Is there a way to use the GPS? From what I understand all phones have GPS but we just can't use it for navigation only the cops can use it?
3. I see that you guys are using all kinds of roms on your phones, please sugest the best one or top rated or the one u think is most stable?
4. So far my plan is to: Upgrade the ROM, Install a different comm manager (to set the phone to one network), What other sugestions do you have?
Thank You all
I appreciate any help.
VM

With GPS you need to buy a bluetooth GPS receiver and some navigation software, I would recommend TomTom. With the volume just tap the volume icon in the top bar and you can adjust the volume or you could use Comm manager switch to vibrate etc.

I understand you can use PGS receiver but isent there a GPS build into the phone already? From what I read by law all US cell phones must have GPS build in for the police (maybe it was never done)?
Also for the volume I understand how to do it manualy but isent there a way to use the scroll weel or another buton ?
Thanks

medmenz said:
I understand you can use PGS receiver but isent there a GPS build into the phone already? From what I read by law all US cell phones must have GPS build in for the police (maybe it was never done)?
Also for the volume I understand how to do it manualy but isent there a way to use the scroll weel or another buton ?
Thanks
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When in a call the scroll wheel adjusts volume and also in certain other programs like windows media player.
As regards the best ROM. There is no correct answer to that question. They are all slightly different with different features. Some folknprefer one with as little as possible added to give speed of operation, others want particular features added that they use a lot.
You will have to read, read, read on the upgrading forum. The assumption on the upgrading forum is that you will have read a lot before asking questions. If you decide to upgrade then I recommend using Mrvanx guides to do it unless you are certain of what you are doing. He is a member here but you can google mrvanx also.
Mike

Thanks,
I did read and read and read for like 3 hours yesturday and I know the options and where to find info on how to do it my questions are more forcused on helping me make the decision on which of the 1000 things that i read I should do to my phone.
On the sound Issue, Like i am about to walk into a meeting and i want to turn the volume down to vibrate on 8125(wizard) it was a move of a finger i didnt even have to take the phone out of my poket. How can i do the same on 8525 (hermes) ? I understand I can tap on the sound icon or go into comm manager but I want to do it with a button?
You said that Roms are different with how many fitures they have? how can i find out which rom has which features is there a comparison chart somewhere?
Thanks A lot

For the vibrate toggle search for Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab works great.
As for good ROMs, you'll just have to try several - it seems that even though the hardware is EXACTLY the same, different ROMs work better on some hardware than others. Also different ROMS work better with the software you like to install than others.
Definitely use MrVanx guides. I'd suggest trying Custels ROMs (cingular oriented), Black Majik, VP3G (cingular optimized), Legolas' and Faria.
Personally I'm running Black Majik currently, it's just setup more how I like it by default.

Agree with PKLEY; the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab works very will with the 8525; once installed, just hold the Comm mgr button for sec. or so and the phone switches to vibrate (and will vibrate and show a vibe icon); to return to normal ring, hold the comm button once more. I use it frequently without problems on both my 8525's

awsome thanks guys the vibrate fix made my day

Where is Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab?
Hi,
I did a search of xda-developers.com and can't find the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab. Tried google and that didn't help either.
Help!
Thanks,
Beefus

Beefus said:
Hi,
I did a search of xda-developers.com and can't find the Commtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab. Tried google and that didn't help either.
Help!
Thanks,
Beefus
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You need to improve your searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294195

DJ-Nitro,
Thanks....
I think the above posters had a slightly confused name. Not Comtoggle-vibrate-fix.cab, real name is CommButton-Toggle-Vibrate-Fix.cab!
They were close though... LOL

Another place to find it, and most other helpful cabs, is HERE. Especially good is DeStefano's Cab Collection
Enjoy!

just wanted to give my 2 cents also. i also have an 8525 and i did basically what another member already suggested: downloaded several ROMs and installed each one on the phone and played with it for a while until i found which one i liked the best (settled on v3pg). each of them has its own highs and lows. just have to play around.

Wi-Fi Hotkey

Just spent the day playing around with the Tytn 2 and I got to say apart from the flip up screen, HSDPA, and a few small registry edits its pretty much the same as a Herald. The gap is even smaller when you add in the fact that the new custom roms for the herald have an even newer build and touchflo (with the cube which the kaiser is missing) packaged together.
One feature that I liked though (part of the few small registry edits) is when you press [FN+Wi-Fi] on the keyboard it turns on wi-fi instead of opening the comm manager. I'm not sure about you guys but I think this is a great feature considering that the comm manager never closes itself.
Can anyone with prior knowledge of how the keyboard shortcuts work (registry location???) let me know how I can add this feature to my phone. I guess if it comes down to it I can borrow it again and create a registry dump but I hope it doesn't come down to that.
And while i'm on the topic of comparing these two phones does anyone think its theoretically possible to encase a Herald into the housing of a Kaiser...just a thought.
Cheers

neptune said:
And while i'm on the topic of comparing these two phones does anyone think its theoretically possible to encase a Herald into the housing of a Kaiser...just a thought.
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LOL @ that idea but i also think that the keycombination for switching on WiFi is pretty nice goog finding

X7510 Keyboard - does it fit the X7500

Anyone know if the new keyboard that comes with the updated X7510 will fit and connect to the original HTC Advantage. If it does, I wonder if they might sell it as an accesorie for the original owners.

halljames said:
Anyone know if the new keyboard that comes with the updated X7510 will fit and connect to the original HTC Advantage. If it does, I wonder if they might sell it as an accesorie for the original owners.
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I doubt they will be for sale, but not sure if it will fit. I say I doubt this because they don't sell the X7500's now, unless you're lucky to buy parts on ebay or something like that. I really do need a new Keyboard for my as the view display's become a bit scratched. On the new one I would just put clear scotch tape on it before I start using it.

I am pretty sure i saw a link to a shop that sell the silver keyboard around these forums,do not ask me where, just came across it, no sure about the black one though, Ill love that parts were more available I'm after a touch pad myself.

Yes, I did the scotch tape thing as well (I noticed the clear plastic getting really scuffed very quickly) seems to be working ok so far.
Cheers
BR

I think the display is smaller on the new Keyboard, than they are on the X7500's but as far as connectivity I don't know if they are similar. I myself could use a new keyboard too.

im 99% sure they will fit. not sure if it will completely work though. the display is a bit smaller since the edges serve no function so they decided not to make it long but instead just have the plastic/glass the size of the screen.
the devices are the same size and dimensions so the size of the keyboard will be the same. connector should also be the same too so i'd say itll all work with just a few mods to the rom so it uses the mapping of the new keyboard.

I've already written and emailed htc a couple of times, suggesting they sell the new keyboards or at least the old ones for replacements. My main argument is that its a given the keyboard, if used, will wear out before the device. Surely, as expensive as our athenas are, they don't actually expect one to buy an x7510 just to replace the keyboard. Haven't heard from them, its been over a month, but what can you do? I would suggest others to at least send them an email. I don't know their thoughts, but it doesn't seem that this would hurt their business any. It would take a fool to buy the x7510 over nothing but a worn-out keyboard.
On a side note, my dollar sign now religiously inputs an underscore. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or know what might cause this?

weaselcossey said:
I've already written and emailed htc a couple of times, suggesting they sell the new keyboards or at least the old ones for replacements. My main argument is that its a given the keyboard, if used, will wear out before the device. Surely, as expensive as our athenas are, they don't actually expect one to buy an x7510 just to replace the keyboard. Haven't heard from them, its been over a month, but what can you do? I would suggest others to at least send them an email. I don't know their thoughts, but it doesn't seem that this would hurt their business any. It would take a fool to buy the x7510 over nothing but a worn-out keyboard.
On a side note, my dollar sign now religiously inputs an underscore. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or know what might cause this?
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if the x7500 has the keyboard out then the x7510 should have its keyboard available sooner or later. im sure a few will still ditch the new keyboard and we can buy it off them.

list of advantages for the 7510 keyboard?
Does anyone have a complete list of benefits for using the new keyboard on our old system? or any possible word on getting a backlit version for our future?
v/r
Bob

does it work
hate to bring up an old topic but im rather interested if anyone has tested using an x7510 keyboard on a x7501?
and if so, is there anywhere i can buy just the x7510 keyboard.
thanx

It will fit, but sorry, it won't work.

fair enough
thanx for the update

i might sell my 7510 keyboard, if i find no use for it
since i can type directy into the LCD screen itself
I plan to use the 7510 plain without the keyboard, and customizing it for full finger touch much like the iphone but waaaaaay better.

well if you sell the X7510 keyboard i'm interrested

it is working
PashaK said:
hate to bring up an old topic but im rather interested if anyone has tested using an x7510 keyboard on a x7501?
and if so, is there anywhere i can buy just the x7510 keyboard.
thanx
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Looks a bit strange to me what cktlcmd is writing above.
I just got a new X7510 for testing and the new keyboard is working quite well with my old X7500 ... say out of the box.
Measures are just the same and fits like the old one.
The touch vibration feedback is also functional.
Letters and most command keys as they are on the old keyboard, work quite well. For the rest you'll have to remember the strange key positioning from the old days of X7500
To fix this, I think only thing you'll have to do is change some system setting due to the different key mapping.
Then this threat may be the one to start with:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323790
To look at : 2. Redefining the layout of the built-in hardware keyboard (thumbboard)
I've not done something of this kind yet but will take a further look at it in next time.
To compare with cktlcmd, I have an original WM6 german ROM. May X7500/X7501 make a difference? I don't think so.
so long

mashbone said:
Looks a bit strange to me what cktlcmd is writing above.
To compare with cktlcmd, I have an original WM6 german ROM. May X7500/X7501 make a difference? I don't think so.
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How can it be working for you when there is a dedicated number row in the X7510?
You mentioned a thread for reassigning some buttons, then it's not working well. If to you that is functional, well to me that is crap.

works good with MagicKB lite, for full use wait the driver and kernel patches
Yes, you are right. I had not tested so far. Remapping wont do it all since there are still buttons which are not recocnized by the system.
These includes the whole number row on top as well as the "Caps", "Sym" and "Message" key.
Also "/" is a hardware button for the left screen function key, so you can not use it for something else.
But:
I found the nifty programm MagicKB lite which adds the abbility to handle different kinds of keystrokes. You can additionally add key functions by double klicking the key and hold the key. Time delay can be set individually.
That means you can put the whole number row one step down saying holding the key means the number above and double klicking the key means the special character above.
For example holding down "Tab" results in "1", "Q" results in "2", "W" results in "3" usw.
Similary double klick "Tab" to get "!" usw.
In addition
+you wont need "Caps" since you can also use "Fn+Shift"
+you wont need "Message" since it is same used with "SMS/MMS"
+you wont need "Sym" since it is same used with "Fn+Space"
It might be useful to leave the hold function for "backspace" blanc and map "Fn+Backspace" instead. Who needs "Del"? And so you are still able to erase multiple characters with holding "backspace".
However, it may also not work for all apps. I found the telephone app does not recognize the numbers typed this way
But all in all it is still a good alternative to the old fashioned keypad
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For development:
MagicKB lite is also usefull since it has ability to get the key codes for almost every key on the device including hardware keys (except power button) and has also a list of every predefined codes.
With this you could map every key to everything.
But since they more often use macro codes with a multiplier 0x10 it's not usefull to use it for key mapping, because it's not able to map those macro codes however.
But the real surprising comes when getting the codes for the hardware buttons since most are macro versions and they are all linked to each other in a certain manner.
Now I have coincidentally count the number of keys from each keyboard.
The new one has 7 keys more then the old one.
That's exactly the number of missing hardware buttons in the new X7510 version.
Maybe there's a greater meaning behind the missing hardware buttons and they sacrificed it in order for the new keyboard

mashbone said:
Maybe there's a greater meaning behind the missing hardware buttons and they sacrificed it in order for the new keyboard
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yes, the Xscale processor has only so many GPIO's.
(also, even if it has some spare free GPIO's, I'm not sure HTC wanted any extra trouble of getting those to work)
yes, htc stupidly hooked all the keys and buttons up to GPIOs instead of abstracting them via some proper solution

So the dual is a good choice?

I've been reading thru the posts on the touch dual and see a pretty overwhelming response in the positive range regarding the device. It's been out for a bit so it is getting a track record. I've decided to order the 20 key qwerty. Was getting a little buyers remorse and was wondering if there were any consistant ongoing issues that perhaps I missed. I would appreciate all comments. Thanks. Hope I'm not making a mistake. I currently have the cruise so I'm used to the touch flo. I think I'm going to like the qwerty slider.

hi there cbreze,
After speaking to a few members on here, who have been extremely helpful, i think the phone sounds really good. Read Here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379178
But after reading about a few issues, i'm beginning to get paranoid if i made the right choice. On this thread, there is a mention of people having problems locking and unlocking the phone when answering calls:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353569
Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
Also there is the mention of constantly doing soft resets etc. I hope this isn't a regular issue

newbiefone said:
Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
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when you get your touch, you might be interested in this neat little app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359212

thanks ducamie for the link and also for PM'ing me earlier. I'm waiting for delivery today and hope that the phone arrives quickly.
For those who are total noobs, like myself to WM6, what is the best way of learning to install these apps? FYI, i am very computer literate, but dread to mess with mobile phones. I assume WM6 is like Windows XP in file structures, extensions and to install is also a similar method?

if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer

I got mine for about 2 weeks now. Overall device is good, only disappointment for me is that XT9 cannot be disabled, it is default input method and you have to manually change all the time. Also when you want to use hardware keyboard for typing sms, it only types numbers When i was ordering this device, i was planning to use hardware keypad for typing stuff, but it is just not usable.
I installed Opera Mobile, similarly, if you want to type URL in address bar using hardware keypad, only numbers can be typed. Not sure if there is a fix somewhere on this forum, i could not find one so far.

creaking
first of all, i love my device!
but quite a long time the cap @ the backside of the device is creaking when i use the touchscreen or the keypad. does anyone have this problem too? what can i do against that? put'em into the freezer

Yep, they all do that (the creaking, that is!). Mine does it as well. It's because there are no strengthening bars in the battery cover, meaning that it flexes when pressed. Nothing to worry about. I actually dropped mine yesterday (I was on a call) and it didn't even drop the connection. The battery cover flew off but, otherwise, the phone was fine. No marks at all. I do have a screen protector on as well, which ultimately saved me a massive headache!

Would a simple bus. card on top of the battery or a section of tape wrapped around the battery help any. I've never had a device yet I couldn`t fix a batt. door creak by using some simple mod. I hate that creaking noise thing!

jvieira said:
if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer
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Well thats very interesting, thanks for that helpful explanation. Without mentioning too much detail (shhh ) Can i get tomtom to fit on a 1gb microsd card supplied by orange or will i need to buy another card? Also how hard is it to install tomtom on the ppc? Do i simply run a .cab file?