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Upgrade Pocket Bluetooth Tools 1.0.1.2

The current version 1.60 of the ROM includes already a virtual serial port but unfortunately it is a dynamic port, which is not visible to many applications. Also the ActiveSync support is difficult and complicated to use and if you want to synchronize with different computers you have always to couple the device again.
For future releases I plan the following improvements:
Support for Bluetooth headsets
Support for Bluetooth network access points
Send contacts and files through Bluetooth
http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth/

i am looking also for handsfree bluetooth support if any help on that

Yeah, headset works fine, it's the handsfree profile we need, that's the one adding enhanced features....

Do you know why some headsets work better than others? I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.

gratefuled said:
Do you know why some headsets work better than others?
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Maybe because of the headsets itself ? I bought a HBH-35 and can do [/quote]anything with it, walk out of range and back, turn it off and on, reset the MDA, chanrge the headset etc etc. without having to re-pair...
I understand that the profile does not work and therefore you can not use the functions on the headsets, but I'm curious if your recent fix will help headsets such as the Jabra BT250 communicate better with the device. The HBH-65 has no issues, but Jabra does note, often very slow to connect. I like the Jabra because I can hear better-age you know.
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What headset-functions do you mean ? Caller ID ? Voicedial etc. ?
That's not in the headsetprofile, that's in the handsfree profile. the headsets with enhanced functions use the handsfreeprofile also, nut just the headsetprofile...

downloaded and installed 1.0.1.2 fantastic my new bt gps works! However I can not use my gps and hbh-65 headset at the same time, any ideas please

Simply stated I was wondering if the new blutooth fix might help the Jabra BT250 work better. I know other headsets work without issue, but Jabra seems to have some problems, and I doubt that this is a Jabra problem, I believe it is a BT Device profile issue.

Can I have another link to the software cause the link is blocked from my ISP, or can any body upload it here or any other palce...
Best regards,,,

I have a new HBH-200, it works ok to answer a call but all the other features are not working, such as caller number etc.

Like i said; It's not i the headsetprofile. The headsetprofile doesn't do much except making a wireless headset possible. Answer, dosconnect and talk and listen, that's all...
Everyting else is in the handsfreeprofile (handsfree is used for advanced options for headsets and carkits)...

Link down????? :?:

not for me

Handfree Profile
I have 2 phones, XDA II and a Nokia 8910i.
My bluetooth Headset is the Ericsson HBH65.
To my surprise, I have paired the HBH65 with both phones and I am able to receive calls from both phones (not at the same time of course) without any problems. Whichever phone rings first get the use of the HBH65. In conflicts however, the Nokia seems to have priority over the XDAII, which is fine with me, but I am so happy that it actually works.
As others are mentioning, I am really missing the enhanced functions of the Handsfree Profile. Can anyone suggest any solution or perhaps work on resolving this issue as a lot of people are waiting for this. I was aware that Towas was planning to release a new version to his BT Stack Fix, has he got anywhere with that by any chance? or anyone else?

Bluetooth headset and GPS

Hi all,
Just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I have the O2 mini and find the loudspeaker rather poor. When using the GPS it is often hard to hear the instructions. Is it possible to send the audio to a bluetooth headset, or even a bluetooth car kit.
I am new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam

Adam,
if you are connecting the GPS via BT, it is not possible in the first place to connect a second device in parallel. Unfortunately you can have just one BT connection at a time.
Even with a cable connected GPS it won't work, because it is not possible to use the BT handset as a audio device.
So, no, what you are trying to do is most probable not possible. I am doing it like that, that I use a BT GPS receiver and a cable headset if I do not understand the voices correctly. This way, you get the instructions and you can even make a call without using the loudspeaker.
rgds
Marco

Thanks for the advice marco. Much appreciated. Will just have to stick with the cable headset.

Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Have to disagree with Marco99. I use a Navman 4420 Bluetooth GPS unit and an O2 Bluetooth headset with my I-mate PDA2K (1.40 ROM 1.12 Radio). I use Destinator Software (The Navman SmartST is better at finding the optimum route, but it is buggy and always seems to need upgrading to use the latest ROM).
Anyway, I frequently have both devices paired.
Last weekend coming back from SA to Vic I had the Destinator humming along, and a phone call comes in. The phone screen pops up and I answer the phone using the headset button. I minimise the phone screen, and the Destinator screen re-emerges, still tracking nicely along the Glenelg Highway. You lose the Destinator voice prompts during the phone call, but not the GPS signals, nor the visual prompts.
After hanging up, again using the headset button, the Destinator voice prompts start again and away you go.
I have the HQ audio patch and a HP BT Headset. I must try that sometime with the Destinator. However, I do agree that you can't listen to the navigation software through the headset and answer the phone, only one audio connection can be made via Bluetooth.
Now, if they can fix the "Line of Sight only" B/T headset bug...

Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
Can also confirm this works with non-Tomtom BT GPS (Globalsat model).
Joe

Re: Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
joe2316 said:
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
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Just to ensure:
You didn't get the voice commands out of tomtom in your bluetooth headset, or?
Stefan

Tomtom5 & BT headset
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe

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joe2316 said:
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
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I can confirm that 100% :roll:

Re: Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Camstech said:
Have to disagree with Marco99.
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I have to agree with camstech! I was not aware that this really is working, did not believe it and just tried it. And it works exactly as described. So, one new thing learned. As the protocol does not explain the behavior, it looks like the (otherwise crappy) bluetooth stack is quite inteligent here, and switches between different devices, so it looks both work in parallel. So, during my next roadtrip I can bring along my BT headset!
Anyway, unfortunately that does not solve your problem, Adam, as it is not possible to redirect the Navigation voice to your bluetooth headset, as long as the device (BT stack) does not support the appropriate BT profile.
regards
marco
EDIT: just checked the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth. I must have dreamt about the single point connection with BT. Looks like a BT net (called piconet) can contain up to 8 devices, where one is working as master with up to 7 slaves. The details can be found in wikipedia. Maybe there is just connection per profile but I dont know for sure. Maybe there is a bluetooth expert here in the forum that could enlighten us. And possibly maybe, this is way to technical and all of you guys fall asleep during the first pragraph of my posting anyway ...

Broadcom bluetooth stack 1.7

hi
to solve my BT related problems i m using Broadcom 1.7 stack which is modified by helmi. Its running perfectly on BA with WM6. The only issue is that when i try to beam any file it can not send files without pairing. to send file i hv to go to BT manager then i only i can send files to others without pairing.
any solution for this?
every thing except this is working great even i can able to explore the memory of other device on my BA.

krishan2207 said:
hi
to solve my BT related problems i m using Broadcom 1.7 stack which is modified by helmi. Its running perfectly on BA with WM6. The only issue is that when i try to beam any file it can not send files without pairing. to send file i hv to go to BT manager then i only i can send files to others without pairing.
any solution for this?
every thing except this is working great even i can able to explore the memory of other device on my BA.
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Does it solve bluetooth issues such as:
1. operate voice dial via bluetooth handsfree?
At this stage, I can activate voice dial from bt handsfree, however, I still have to talk to the phone mic, not the handsfree mic - which makes the activation from handsfree useless..
2. Random wake up issue which is caused by BT turned on - big mike's patch in MW5 - I notice this still exists in WM6
3. Where can I dl this broadcom stack BT latest version?
As with your problem, have you tried commercial bluetooth apps such as BTConnect (or something like that...)...?
Cheers

joseph.sapri said:
Does it solve bluetooth issues such as:
1. operate voice dial via bluetooth handsfree?
At this stage, I can activate voice dial from bt handsfree, however, I still have to talk to the phone mic, not the handsfree mic - which makes the activation from handsfree useless..
2. Random wake up issue which is caused by BT turned on - big mike's patch in MW5 - I notice this still exists in WM6
3. Where can I dl this broadcom stack BT latest version?
As with your problem, have you tried commercial bluetooth apps such as BTConnect (or something like that...)...?
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prob 1. i hv not tested.
prob 2. no wake up as it disables MS BT stack.
prob 3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274425
cheers again

How about HandFree?? Can it works?

gzcd said:
How about HandFree?? Can it works?
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Its working properly.

what is the BTSPEED.CAB for?

Yes helmi's Blue tooth seems to fix most of the problems with BT in this Rom.
The problem I have found is that once this fix is installed programs like tomtom can not turn BT on Automatically. I need to switch BT on then start TT.
Before using this patch, T.T. would start BT if it was not running.
Because manually switching the BT on works fine I guess it is possibly a reg entry that is missing, does anyone know which one???
T.I.A.

krishan2207 said:
Its working properly.
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krishan, you installed al the 3 files?
a. HELMI_BA_WM5_BT1.7_TEST.cab
b. BTSpeed.cab
c. BroadCommPatch1.cab
Hands-free really working?
For me, when this profile is connected, I got ringing tone on my i-Tech Clip radio. It is not able to connect to my IIs.
High Quality Audio is working for me.

BA still randomly wakes up
Hi all,
I actually tried this broadcom bluetooth stack 1.7 with btspeed.cab, patch1 and patch2 installed
I noticed that BA still randomly wakes up... giving me the same behaviour with the ms stack.
I have done exactly what the explanation from Helmi....
Any ideas on this - third party apps causing this random wake up??
Thanks

krishan2207 said:
Its working properly.
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Can u pls list out the methods and files u hv installed...
i'm still not able to get handsfree to work

thank, good program

Can someone please post a link to the bluetooth stack?
I've searched but can't find it. Google give me 2 links which come back to here, but I can't find any files.
After the upgrade I've got real issues with my GPS reciever and tomtom 6.
It's just real slow, and I know it's slow from the way it was with WM2003. I know it's definately something to do with bluetooth as all was fine before.
EDIT: never mind, found it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274425
I was expecting to find it with the search function. Nothing beats digging

I've installed Helmi Broadcom 1.7. + BT speed + Broadcom patch 1 and Patch2.
Handsfree function couldn't run.
BT GPS and BT stereo a2dp can run together at the same time.
Can anybody tell me how to solve Handsfree problem ?

krishan2207 said:
Its working properly.
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i cant be more happier than hearing this, so PLS show me the way to enable handsfree with this 1.7 bt stack, T.I.A!

Bluetooth Carkit + TouchHD

Hi everybody!
I've used several Nokia Symbian devices before my TouchHD and I've always used them with onboard navigation together with a bluetooth carkit.
Nokia 6600 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot CK3500
Nokia N80 + Parrot LS3400GPS
The great thing of this combination was, that every voice command from my navi software was transmitted over my car speakers and the radio was muted!
But with my Bury CC9060 and my TouchHD this great feature doesn't work!
1. Is there a special bluetooth protocoll needed?
2. How can I make sure wether it is the blackstones or the carkits fault, that I don't get voice commands over the car speakers?
3. When I start the MP3 Player in Manila the bluetooth carkit also keeps silent.

Nobody? Here are so many WM experts. Someone must have an answer!

Hello
What version of software are you running in the cc9060?
The latest is v1.74 and this works well with the Touch HD, all contacts are there only battery power level is not working on mine.
The problem you have might be that the car kit connects by default on A2DP and trys to output sat-nav and music via this, if you do not have the cc9060 connected to a aux input you will not hear the audio.
To get around this you can always disconnect the A2DP in the options of the phone ,Comm manager>Settings>Bluetooth>cc9060> then untick wireless stereo
then audio will come out of phones loudspeaker
I have my Touch HD and cc9060 connected to my Focus aux-in and use it as music player while running TomTom, the phone then overlays sat-nav directions over playing music they work well together, the touch screen music controls work well with manillla player and allow control of music without interupting tomtom
If you need to update cc9060 you can get new software from bury's website at
http://www.bury.com/en/hands-free-car-kits/system-bt-bluetooth-systems/cc-9060/software.html
hope this helps

CC9060 Software is already the latest: 1.74
I found these checked bluetooth options:
Wireless Stereo
Hands Free
I'll give that a try and uncheck Wireless Stereo!
Do you already know, that bury will release an actice cradle for the Touch HD in June/July 2009! Then I am able to load the battery while driving.

Update:
With unchecking bluetooth stereo, the navi software uses the phone speakers, whereas it is connected to the CC9060.
But there are still two disadvantages:
- Radio ist not muted when a call comes in.
- Not as loud as the car speakers
I've written to bury and they've answered me the same:
The device must be connected to AUX to hear something over the car speakers.
One question is still unanswered:
What is the reason, that Nokia devices where able to transmit the navigation commnands over the car speakers?
Bury mentioned, that the handy must support this!

Hi Pal
I have the parrot Ck3100 and it would play the sat-nav commands via the stereo speakers with my N95 but won't with the Blackstone. So it must be WM or the Touch HD that is not sending commands to the carkit. I also noticed that with my N95 when I got a text the sms alert was played through the car speakers the touch Hd does not do this.
Hope that helps and if you find a solution I would love to know.
Sully

Damn! Is it the handy operating system or the handy-brand?
As you mentioned already your symbian device is doing it right. But the WM6.1 device fails!
Maybe I should test it with the new omnia HD (also symbian OS) if it works!

Please report back if you find ourt anything more, I am sure it must be possible maybe with a reg tweak.
Sully

At the moment I don't see any possibilities to get that to work.
The manufacturer of the my new bluetooth car kit (bury) said, that it is very seldom, that a mobile phone sends navigation commands to the carkit. They are also not testing this feature, when they are adding a mobile phone to their supported phones list.
Should't a carkit in handsfree mode work as a headset?
Even Parrot was unable to say which device is generally sending every sound to the their carkit. But they said, that their carkit is reacting on EVERY activity from the mobile phone, when it is in handsfree mode.
We need more feedback from carkit / navigations users to finde the weak point!

Hi Pal
Just been reading about vjvolubilis and btmusic and some diamond users have managed to make it work. I have just installed it and will try it out on the way home tonight.
Sully

hungabunga said:
Hi Pal
vjvolubilis and btmusic
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So those are the right apps? Are they free and maybe also available here?
I could test them, too.

they are free to use, i had some success with vjvoubilis. it worked but kept muting the stereo even though there were no commands from tomtom. for btmusic you need .net
sully

btmusic wants to have 2.0. But in my Rom .net 3.5 is already included. Does it work with you?
EDIT: After installing v2.0 via activesync btmusic starts but then a message "license expired 01/09/2008" appears.

I had to download .net 2 to make it work, the phone still works fine after installing version 2 and I am running duttys 2.7rom. Link for .net2 found on this page under requirments http://maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
Sully

I thought in v3.5 v2 is icluded.
Get it to work now, too. But:
How did you solve the license expired message? Setting back the system language is starting the programm but not a solution for always.

use the link I provided above, you have to register to download but that version doesn't have licence problem.
Sully

Thanks a lot, but I've registered now, too. The app works.
But I am to tired to walk down to the car and test it. Maybe in a few hours after sleeping for a while.

go to sleep man and check it in the morning, there is no rush.
Sully

i cant get my hd to work with my intergrated bluetooth either.
i have tried software call JETware, that many people talk about... still my phone will not ask for the pairing passcode(password or key).
Any help would be great.
thanks

btmusic didn't solve my problem.
Igo8 did not talk to me via bluetooth and the manila music player, too.

Possible to send all audio over bluetooth?

I've spent days searching and trying all sorts of tweaks but I can't get anything to work. Can anyone PLEASE help!
I use Tomtom 7 and I've always sent the voice instructions to the bluetooth speaker in my bike helmet (just a handsfree paired item). I've previously done this on HTC devices with BTAudio and a one line registry tweak. Can anyone offer a solution to send all the audio to a bluetooth handsfree on the HD2?
I really hope someone can help, I've got the HD2 setup just right except for this last remaining item.
Many thanks,

i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do

xardus said:
i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do
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Yes I've tried the "manage system audio in handsfree device" option. I can get some background noise on the headsets (I'm trying with a Scala Rider and Motorola 700 & 850) but I never manage to get any sound.
Can anyone please offer a solution? It's a big disappointment for me if this isn't possible. Any suggestions welcome, many thanks.

My Observations
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....

Fadetogrey said:
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....
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It gives me some hope that you've got it to work with one bluetooth device. Can you please let me know exactly what you did to get the $20 bluetooth earpiece to work?
Thanks,

yeah that was my idea but without a stereo bt device i cant try to myself...i ordered to vodafone one with some of my tons of points...3 weeks and no answer!

I had the same issue and on my old phone, the HTC Touch HD, I used the following program to my satisfaction:
BTAudio
On my HTC HD2 however this doesn't seem to work anymore. :-(

it does the same thing of the inbuild bt option on hd2 its just a "quick link" to place on the bar
anyone of u have any problem with bt device volume? before i have an Artemis and 3 different device i used the device volume was every time the one i choose...now every time a new call starts phone volume its right but device volume jump to minimum level and every time i have to press + button like as i'm playing videopoker to dont miss fist seconds of a conversation

Works fine with Jabra 3030, all audio over it, music, system sounds and calls.

Maybe it's only working for bluetooth devices that are setup as stereo. Can anyone please offer a solution here?

I've installed a 6.5 rom (dutty v7 - thank you) on my HD and after a sprite restore (level 2) bluetooth audio divert works fine. Although I notived that the bluetooth options remained the old settings (possibly due to my backup restore) and the divert was done using the BTAudio. Sorry to keep asking but if anyone can shed light on this.
Is it possible to tweak the HD2 so that audio can be sent to any bluetooth headset/handsfree or is there some hardware limitation that stops this from being done?
I've tried every app and tweak that I can think of! Please can anyone help, even iof it's to let me know why this can't be done.
Thanks,

its what we all are trying to do......now i think its only a bt device problem...if it support bt2.1 and a2dp with edr seems to work all good....
i solved in car with headphone in the box...but bluetooth should be much and much better without any cable that always have to remove nodes (its the right word? sorry if not hehe)

I'm connecting to my HD2 using Jabra Stone, an A2DP headset. When I selected the stereo headset profile on the HD2, it redirected all system sounds to the headset: reminders, SMS alert, soundtrack for videos, audio player....except phone ring. I used BT Audio over a non-A2DP headset before with Diamond2, but the ausio is very poor, and the connection drops very often. Since I changed to A2DP headsets, the Diamond2 and HD2 supports it out of the box - no hack needed.
So look for A2DP headsets if you want to redirect audio.

Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.

I have an LG HBM-220 bluetooth and cannot put audio to in, only phone calls!
How can i manage to do it?

I blame it on the stupid Widcomm Bluetooth stack... If the HD2 used the better MS stack, BT would play nice with with more of our periphirals and apps
I can't use MSVC properly with BT either....

the solution is to go to the bluetooth settings, select your device and connect the stereo audio connection.

Way back, Microsoft decreed that ONLY the phone app could use a mono BlueTooth headset, although any audio could be redirected to a stereo A2DP headset.
In order to get around this you need to fudge the sytem with something like BTAudio or TekSoft's BlueAudio.
The latter worked on my XDA Orbits (1 and 2) but does not work on my Touch HD with Dutty's R6 ROM (WM 6.5) possibly because BlueAudio requires the Microsoft BlueTooth stack and I suspect Dutty's ROM has the Widcomm stack. But I could be wrong about that.
BTAudio sort of works on my Touch HD, but outgoing audio is speeded up like I've been breathing Helium.
So no current solution to yet another idiotic gotcha from Microsoft.

Noony said:
Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.
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Hmmm. When I conect via gprs to youtube aps I can hear the voice in my mono headset (jabra 2020) but via wifi and computer as modem voice is only in phone speaker. So maybe we should look gprs or youtube aps reg tweek.

Guys
i have a nokia HB-100 headset and i'm experiencing all kinds of strange behavours
sometimes system sounds including music ...etc get directed to the headset and some other time it just directs calls no matter how hard i try thru soft resets or unchecking then checking the "play system sounds ..." option!
very strange, any insights about this? is there a tweak to go with or is it a known WM defect?