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as for me, one major and almost the only one backwards of XDA I as compared to XDA 2 is lack of Bluetooth connectivity .... not only for calls pick-up but mostly for communication, data exchange, synchronization etc
I have been looking for, most possibly, some home made solution as I doubt that so adopted it to the commercial solution being available in stores
has anyone came across a viable solution ??
regards and thanks for all the inputs,
monika
will never have it on mate shame really as thats all the xda1 needs then id not want a xda2 lol
I have been thinking about sth like e.g. JABRA bt hands-free which is normally connected to minijack of XDA I, but to make it smaller and more comfortable
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5B5140F6
to keep it simple - I need two-way radio unit attached to one end on the cable attached on the other end to XDA ... for me it is hard ro imagine another sort of solution I might be looking for
regards, monika
Hi all
Don't know how many of you guys are ipaq transferees like myself, but there is one piece of software on the ipaq that has not been adopted in the XDA series handhelds, namely REVO - the remote control tool.
Anybody into gadgets in the way that we are will have too many remote controls lying about. This tool allowed me to put them on a shelf, and use them very rarely.
So.....
Does anybody have a clue how to extract it from the ipaq ready to be placed on the XDA II. NAturally, owning both devices, one would assume that providing I use it with either one or the other, you can provide this useful information conscience clear!!!!
Look forward to any thoughts
JJ
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Does anybody have a clue how to extract it from the ipaq ready to be placed on the XDA II.
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Unfortunately, the Himalaya infrared hardware is not capable of communicating with customer devices like TV sets. There is nothing any software could do about this - only some hardware change can help.
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Daniel
Also some Ipaq's Irda are just very powerfull made..have a range of 10-15 meters.
Normally pda Irda's have a range of 2-3 meters.
not sure why the ir would be 100% incompatible with the tv
if special software written for it was used
about the range issue
http://www.smarthome.com/8220A.html
http://www.homeautomationnet.com/Shopping/remote-control-accessories.asp
http://www.pdawin.com/irtranceiver.html
suppose one of these would inc the range
i had
http://www.pdawin.com/
this software running on my xda1
too bad the range was only 30cm
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I am surprised that the range is so different between devices. I understood that the infra red transmit distance was usually further than the receive. Would this be applicable to the XDA II I wonder. I will run some experiments with a phone to see if I can assess distances.
Had a look at the PDA Win software, looks quite functional, perhaps not as slick as the built ipaq version. 30cm range... doh!
They seem to have specifically excluded the XDA II. I wonder if this is a range issue as you guys have suggested.
Hmmm......
Sounds like an excuse to spend money on a very very very posh do-all remote control!!!!!!!!! (LOL)
Thanks for your thoughts anyway.
Cheers guys
Rudegar said:
not sure why the ir would be 100% incompatible with the tv if special software written for it was used
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Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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Daniel
Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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and yet i had pdawinøs software working ok on my xda1
and also used it to comm with my laptop so some infrared classify as
both IrDA and consumer
if the range is ok then the only difference i can think of is protocol and that should be possible to work out so that software would work on the xda2
i also had my trusting old hp48 calc working as a remote at a time
prob still have the software somewhere
Well, TVs use "consumer" infrared, while PDAs use "IrDA". See here for a more detailed explanation. It has nothing to do with the power or the range of the IR LEDs and phototransistors.
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I would have to side with Rudegar on this one, as I have not only used the Ipaq for several consumer devices but the extremely fundamental Palm III (aahhhh those were the days, when a calculator was considered to be a posh option.
I would say, however, that neither successfully worked with a sky remote, which I wonder may be due to two-way data transfer. I wonder if this is the IrDA vs Consumer difference.
I read the link to the Irda page, which as you suggest states that the two are different. I would agree that the two standards are different, but unless built-in hardware compatability is provided to the majority of pda's, there must be a way of emulating the consumer device within the IrDa protocols.
Hmmm... A little out of my depth on this one. Hopefully somebody else can explain!!
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JJ
The xda 1 I have works fine as a remote control for my tv and dvd etc, I use "learning2 mode to program the xda using the original remote handset. The xda 2 however is total crap as a remote, however if you wish to use it from one position, for instance the couch in your living room, there is a device called an infra red repeater, this allows you to operate an infra red device from a greater distance, I will see if I can find a name for manufacturer but I am sure this device exists, its selling point was enabling you to operate your cable/sattelite box from upstairs even when you had no line of sight to the box. It was a money saver because you could connect your cable/satellite to your upstairs tv instead of having to purchase a second box from the provider and be able to change channels from upstairs.
Guys,
I wouldlike to get inside the discusion because I have almost the same problem and I would like some help.
I also found the hard way that the XDA II does not work as a remote control, then I found this Total Remote software and module that really got myself impressed, I bought it and also the adaptor for the audio output.
Now I am able to output the signals without problem, the software works very fine and control the eletronic equipments without any problem.
But then I got to test the learning mode and then my problems started. The XDA II canot learn nothing! It wont recognize any kind of command that comes from any remote controler. To make sure it was not a problem of the software I tested to more diferent remote controler softwares and they also does not learn. What really make me disapointed is that even touching the controler IR led with the XDAII IRda port, the XDA II can´t learn anything.
I already tried to disable the "receive all incoming beans" and do a soft reset, but this also does not worked.
I am writing this in the hope I am forgetting something and one of you give me any more idea.
OR
To also ask for the more experts, if it is possible to substitute the IRda port with a common IR led found on any remote controler (of course doing some soldering). If there is compactibility between them, I think I will give it a go, since I really whant a remote control on my XDA II.
Thanks a lot
Felipe
thats what i've been saying all along
the xda2's ir modules is not the default ir module which all the remote software is written for
the remote applications would have to be written directly for the modules ir in the xda2 for it to work
i've come across no such applications as of yet
hi, im using novii remote controler on my hermes but it sems he ir is not owerful enaugh to operate the applicationi need to be very close to the tv to change the channel,about 10 inches.is there a way to increase the strenghton the ir on my hermes? or it isjust the application? i used it with my universal before and there were no problms at all i could have changed the channels standing at the very end of the room. so it seems it is hermes and its ir.am i right?
the second question is the an application whcih will allow me to turn on and off the camera flash to be used as a torch without accessing camera app and the on and off flash? the best would be a today plug in.any help is appriciated. cheers
cudo
This is what you need for your second question;
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJCandela
When I used novii remote it needed to be pointed directly at the sensor and would only work from about 1.5-2m but I do remember that there was a version of the hermes that had a transmitter of lesser strength?
cudo said:
hi, im using novii remote controler on my hermes but it sems he ir is not owerful enaugh to operate the applicationi need to be very close to the tv to change the channel,about 10 inches.is there a way to increase the strenghton the ir on my hermes? or it isjust the application? i used it with my universal before and there were no problms at all i could have changed the channels standing at the very end of the room. so it seems it is hermes and its ir.am i right?
cudo
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I had the same problem when I had installed NoviiRemote Deluxe... I need to go about 10cm distance to my television that it changes the chanal... thats crapy...
Can anyone may help?
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I use Novii Remote, change channels when I'm 7 or so feet away from the TV.
This is because of the weak IR range of the 8525, with my old HP the range was bigger, 15 feet I think.
this is like the 5th thread ive seen on this topic in the last month!
IRDA on a mobile purpose : to connect while next to a computer.
remote control for the TV purpose : to change the channel from the other side of the room, not to be confused with someone who is walking past or walking upto a tv inorder to also change the channel.
been wanting to ask this question for a while now...
is there a universal remore with touch screen that runs windows mobile? or some other stripped down version of windows? like tablet edition?
cudo said:
hi, im using novii remote controler on my hermes but it sems he ir is not owerful enaugh to operate the applicationi need to be very close to the tv to change the channel,about 10 inches.is there a way to increase the strenghton the ir on my hermes? or it isjust the application? i used it with my universal before and there were no problms at all i could have changed the channels standing at the very end of the room. so it seems it is hermes and its ir.am i right?
the second question is the an application whcih will allow me to turn on and off the camera flash to be used as a torch without accessing camera app and the on and off flash? the best would be a today plug in.any help is appriciated. cheers
cudo
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Anything of this ? http://www.novii.tv/up/forum/viewforum.php?f=33
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this is like the 5th thread ive seen on this topic in the last month!
IRDA on a mobile purpose : to connect while next to a computer.
remote control for the TV purpose : to change the channel from the other side of the room, not to be confused with someone who is walking past or walking upto a tv inorder to also change the channel.
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Well, my good old medion pda was able to change the channel from very long distances so it should be possible for the TYTN to do the same.
the Medion wasnt that running 2003 and almost when Bluetooth was a novelty?
Being a German brand who knows what magic they put in it, most likely it has a rod of Uranium 234 in it to help charge the batteries.
I tried several of those remote control softwares. Common problem is weak IR on the TyTN that was designed for other purposes as st3v3 pointed out.
Bit of a noob question here, but is there a way to use SAP to utilise my cellphone's SIM contacts and network so that when I'm indoors I can text and call on the AMEO and then disconnect when I'm out and about. Currently I have to SIM swap as I don't like making calls on the Ameo in public.
Basically I want my Ameo to act a bit like a RSAP car kit....utilizing my phone's SIM list and transmitter when needed. This would not only be very convenient but would I think make the Ameo's battery last a hell of a lot longer as in my experience GSM/3G drains a lot more power than BT.
could the Ameo do this?
Or is it possible to develop a programme to do this?
I trust that someone out there knows.....
(Both handsets support SAP)
is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.
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is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.
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I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)
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I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)
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That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.
leoni1980 said:
That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.
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SAP? You mean the software SAP? I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.
it was i who created that post about using a SAP profile as a remote phone...
and not a single person chimed in then...
i have done soem extensive research on this subject...
i have found that you need teh development kit for a sim access server (as our phone already has a license)
basicly if someone has a nice car (dump the os) =p
but if we dont have as im access server its not possible...
if someone can get their hands on a sim access server this could very well be a possibility
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SAP? You mean the software SAP? T0I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.
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No sap in this case means sim access profile. It is the same protocol used by bluetooth car kits which basically allows you to remotely view your contacts and call them or text them remotely. Such a utility would i think be brilliant with the ameo as one could connect to, say a nokia n95 and use its transmitter and phonebook whilst at work or static to make and receive calls and browse the internet, then disconnect when out and about. This would be worlds apart from using a bluetooth headset i think.
Hi, does anybody know NOKMOTE?
if not watch this link
http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x3f4o8_nokmote_tech
to the devs.
i want to know if its possible to use it with the hermes.
the nokmote software uses the acceleration sensor of the camera to switch to landscape mode
no, it won't work because the Hermes doesn't have a built in Gyrometer, the Nokia N95 does. By the way, I think that Nokmote stands for Nokia-Remote. So my guess is that it's fully adapted to the N95.
If you want a similar program, you'll first have to modify your Hermes or buy one of those adapters (though I don't know if it will work on the port of the Hermes). After you've managed to mod you hermes, you'll need to write a program based on the gyrometer.
thx 4 response