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Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Good Idea!
would LOVE to see that....
Would VueFLO be able to tell the difference between tilting the device to the left (when in landscape) and rotating it into portrait?
A really REALLY cool idea though
Less talk and more results !!!
This would be truly a great app to have on the advantage. Anyone out there willing to build this app for us, it would be appreciated to the entire forum.
is it possible....and if so..how..?? doesnt VueFlo..uses manual buttons..can any1 care to explain if its possible or not..buh if it is..then it wud be great
i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
Arya said:
i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
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Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
fatouraee said:
Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
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you learn persian
eyval eman jan, pas irani hasti
thanks
i think athena is very better and i love my athena and don't change it with any other
but there's some small problem on it, like phone call sound recording and some other...
tanX for your answer and sorry for my english too
So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
SupraSkylineSTI said:
So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
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well i guess you could just always do it
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well i guess you could just always do it
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Believe me, If I could, I would.
Some coding god needs to reverse engineer to vueflo apps to work out how the hardware is accessed. After that, any coder can do it just like the iphone/ipod people are all making stuff that uses the accelerometer in them.
Its not an easy task. We need somebody in HTC to leak the details really.
Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
On-topic, the motion sensor on the hard drive is just that... a motion sensor. Not an orientation sensor (like mercury switches are). Just turning the unit on its side won't let the OS know its now on its side, however, by adding some kind of motion code it will work just fine. Like shaking it twice downward in the direction you want to be down. Shaking it once would produce too many false changes, but twice or maybe 3 times would send the right message.
This type of phone input has been in the news a lot lately, along with vibration as a feedback. The idea on the news is you would shake your phone to see if you have any messages waiting, and it would vibrate back if you do. Unfortunately since the Athena doesn't have a vibration motor the output part isn't possible, but the input part is, since it has the motion sensors already! (the lack of vibration is one of the top-5 flaws of this device, IMO, hopefully it will get added on the X7502)
So, taking the topic of this thread one step further, how about creating an application that launches apps based on motion input? Yes I know there is a program out there that lets you reprogram most of the function buttons to do this (I forget its name at the moment, I haven't bought it yet), but adding motion to this mix would be so much cooler!
shake it baby?
these ideas seam very good but sahaking it multiple times and to open programs seams like it may cause problems because our device is just tooo big, imagine to shake or rotate ur device a specific way to get pie running (maybe it could be shaken to the rythem of ur favourite song (which has to be the Smashing Pumpkins..) and it shakes out of your hand on to the concrete pavement below wooops!!! just imagine the insurance form for that
Well, the unit's motion sensitivity is quite high. Easily confirmed by changing the viewflo sensitivity to high and then gently tilting the unit when you are in a browser. You wouldn't have to create martinis or milkshakes to launch an app, just a gentle flick or two will do. A downside of all this is carrying it around would present problems (either on your belt or in your hand). Even if you ignore the g-sensors when the cover is on, the cover-on switch is so faulty you might get to work and find that you wired $150 Euros to the Red Cross and sent all your checking account information to some guy in Nigeria.
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Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
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tanX
i can't record call when i talk with handsfree
only when i used load speacker it record, but on load speack can't talk good, and call quality is not good!!
I try some of software that the friends tell me, but nothing not work
this is the Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346126
tanX
apd said:
Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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why did i just know someone would suggest this. hahaha prolly cause i thought that too! hahaha
1 reason of many i can think of is Iphone look alike
Hi, i'm interested in an iphone-like app too.
I still can't understand why HTC inserted a hardware which can handle with orientation, and then it's only possible to use scolling in PIE or Opera.
Why not Scrolling in PIE AND Opera. I love this feature, and want it always and for other apps too, like Rotate Screen automaticly, skip music file or backwards in WMP, Forward/backward in PIE/Opera when moved left/right.
I don't unterstand this. The difficult part is the integration of hardware, and HTC didn't develop a simple app which makes the hardware really do what it is supposed to do.
I even don't believe they added the G-Sensor for the Microdrive.
nothing new?
even with the new softwares incluede in devices such as Omnia or Diamond?
Hello everyone!
I'm new on this forum and I've only read TONS of useful information till now...Few days ago I bought an HTC Touch device and immediately I flashed its ROM with a new one found in this *** WONDERFUL *** site
Well, in the past I developed some (stupid) applications for Windows in several languages; then I discover the "pocket-pc" world and began to have to do with it! One night I was reading about a feature of a developement-version of a well known browser and WOOOOOOOW!!!! "You can perform several actions, like scrolling, panning, zooming...only by moving your phone!" The software use image-processing algorithms to recognize your gestures ...only using the built-in camera!!!! No accelometers needed...
Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3pVaEVHpvI
Now, image-processing algorithms are not too difficult to implement...but how can I get access to the built-in camera on my Htc ?!? I tried to search all over the internet, and in this forum too...but I found only few things about HTCCameraAPI and many other programs and their dlls. I cannot believe there's no way to have access to the camera!!!
HELP please!!! this "project" could be very interesting!
One thing is sure - it _can_ be done, and it can work really good, even on weak hardware - look at this:
http://rivia.net/Fishopolis.aspx
I just tried the demo and i was amazed how well it worked on my wizard (especially considering its crappy camera), even in less than perfect lighting conditions (incadescent light). No overclocking required.
Also, from what i've seen WM7 is going to use the camera-based gestures too. So, anyone willing to beat M$ to it and develop a camera-based ftouchflo-like app?
I've looked at the libs, and I've even dabbled in the source, and this is my next project. Like I said, we know it can be done, it's just a matter of doing it. Obviously though, I've got to finish off PocketMelody etc. But it's my next move, once no one beats me to it . And personally, I hope someone does! It's not THAT hard.
Welcome to the forums gregnapola!
This website hepled me choose my very first PPC Phone 18 months ago and helped it become the best little device I own. It just keeps getting better and better with tools such as FTouchFlo, PocketMelody and Picture Flow, and I look forward to this feature onMY HTC Hermes!
Shows how much really can be done with this WM platform, all you need is developers with imagination and talent (and all the other things that go along with it like coffe and donations and and respect on the forums ).
Thanks guys.
maybe we would have some1 develop a program that automatically changes portrait mode into landscape by jus rotating the camera..hey u never kno..this is XDA-DEVELOPERS..
Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
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Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
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Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
any update?
I'd also love to substitute my D-Pad for a Camera-based Motion Tracking system
No Dev takes this challenge?
gregnapola said:
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
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I resolved your error assigning owner information (all). But camera feature seems to not work on my trinity...also the d-pad can't move the cursor...is there anyone with same problem?
thanks
Would it be possible to have it access the front camera too and switch of the LCD when you're talking on the phone? Something like what the iPhone does to save battery.
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any update?
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The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
gregnapola said:
The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
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That's really stinks!! I hope you can get another one. Sorry to hear the news.
Chris
Im trying to use Fishopolis on my phone ( an HTC Wizard) but i keep on getting some kind of weird security error.
Any ideas why im getting that error and how to fix it?
doesn't seem to work with the camera on the Hermes...hmmm
Looks like we will have to wait until 2009 for WM7.
wouldn't it consume a lot more battery if camera is always on.
just my thought
I think this is a cool idea and I think I mentioned this somewhere else in this forum, but if this could be done, it would be cool if one could use the camera of there phone, link it via bluetooth and use it as a mouse for a laptop.
Just thinking outloud.
lol, some interesting ideas.
Docnas, refer to post by cf222111:
I resolved your error assigning owner information (all).
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Mariner_heart, refer to post by thundershadow_14:
Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
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can you have the screen automaticaly rotate according to the way you hold the phone in your hand (landscape or portrait ) on an HTC TOUCH ?
does the touch have the necesary hardware for this and is there a third party app out there for it ?
thanks
ps: funny how I have this feature on my Canon SD750 digital camera but I do not have it on my pocket pc...
not it require hardware support
software is really kinda like a recipi for what actions should be given when input
comes and the hardware is the input
that's what I thought...too bad.
thank you for your fast reply Rudegar
Possible temp solution
Install Spb Pocket Plus 4 or something that will give you a rotate screen app. Then install fTouchFlo (with config program) and change the up - down gesture to run the screen rotate app. (Any app you can equip to the buttons in settings can be found and set in FTouchflo Config)
Just a thought.
Hope this helps..PS the free version of fTouchFlo can be found on the forum.. Then you can rotate the screen with a quick up - down gesture.
diigibio
thanks for the tip diigibio but it still not what I'm looking for.
what you are suggesting is very similar to placing and small icon on your today sreen for screen rotation.
i wanted the "automatic" rotation that the iPhone and my Canon SD750 have.
I guess it's the "cool" factor
thanks again though.
I'm affraid you'll have to buy an Iphone then!! LOL As I asume they have some kind of tilt sensor (something like the old mercury switch/just more updated)
Ahh, well pal. Good Luck..
diigibio
Maybe create something that detects movement from the mike input? or sudden alteration of signal reception?
diigibio said:
I'm affraid you'll have to buy an Iphone then!! LOL As I asume they have some kind of tilt sensor (something like the old mercury switch/just more updated)
Ahh, well pal. Good Luck..
diigibio
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well, I don't want and iPhone since that and the visual voicemail is all the iPhone's got for itshelf.. I love my Touch !
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Maybe create something that detects movement from the mike input? or sudden alteration of signal reception?
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interesting....any developers around ?
How about that camera motion-detecting project (there's a thread on it somewhere)? That looks interesting.
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How about that camera motion-detecting project (there's a thread on it somewhere)? That looks interesting.
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yeah, I stumbled upon that discussion once..anyone have the link handy ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360996. Read away.
You know I was just thinking about that myself as MS seems to be working on camera motion detection for use with WM7 (Or so rumoured) . PLESTIUC have you got motionapps mVisualVoicemail. It's pretty good, I'm set with 3UK.
Good Luck
diigibio
diigibio said:
You know I was just thinking about that myself as MS seems to be working on camera motion detection for use with WM7 (Or so rumoured) . PLESTIUC have you got motionapps mVisualVoicemail. It's pretty good, I'm set with 3UK.
Good Luck
diigibio
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I'm using CallWave (free) but Sprint charges me 20 cents per fowarded call. I'll have to cancel the service even though it's pretty cool...emails you the voicemail attachment and also sends you a text transcription of the voicemail (not very accurate but good enough)
Well mate, I think it's only a matter of time. And by that I don't mean WM7, I mean something released on this forum.
In the mean time, enjoy every other iPhone feature here (if you like that stuff). It's amazing!
http://www.gesturetekmobile.com/
but thear is no download link......
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Maybe create something that detects movement from the mike input? or sudden alteration of signal reception?
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nice thinking but from what i think, your screen would automatically start to rotate as you're walking around under trees or through buildings and different rooms.
will this iphoneish screen rotation thingy work for the t mobile wing? if so where could I get it and do I go about installing it...thank u
in 2006 i bought on eBay in honk kong a phonewho have this hardware detection !
so apple dont image it !
rofl guys even nokia 5500 sport and some kinda older model of samsung had accelerometers, it's quite old technology, but now i even heard people calling an ordinary accelerometer a "Gravity sesnsor" stupid iphone madness
I am using the "ideas" section in the GSensor Apps thread as a guideline to write useful/useless applications. Instead of creating a thread for each small program I intend to reference the original idea/request here and display the application. Safes me from having to open a different thread
So here is the first one, based on this idea: Plane
Simple graphics, if you have better pictures, share them with me. I need top, bottom and side view of the plane. I can also use better sound files, I did not really look around for the best ones. And as usually improvements will be done and brought back here.
First improvement: used F22 picture from surur (see post below)
Usage: self-explaining
AH64d Lander
An other "Lunar Lander" clone, based on Apache Lander from the iPhone. Somebody did request this a while ago, so here is version 1, using C# and OpenGLES.
To start after a crash/landing, use options and the level you want to play. I fear however that the "Hard" level is almost impossible to play.
Options also allow you to use sound.
10-Sep-08: Fixed sound
Paper Airplane
A concept only application for the moment, but the goal is to replace the above "Airplane" with this OpenGL based application. For the moment it is only possible to look at the plane, sort of like a virtual hologram.
Usage:
Hold your PDA in landscape and turn it slowly around, tilting it over your head. You will be able to look at this paper plane from all sides.
Diamond Beer V2
A drinking tool, probably last update for a while.
Great idea! Looking forward to all the useful apps going to be posted here
Keep'em coming!
Thanx!
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Simple graphics, if you have better pictures, share them with me. I need top, bottom and side view of the plane.
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Great Idea your airplane!!
Surur: Your airplane is beautiful
great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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I totally agree! You smart people with vast programming skills can't let the mac/iphone nerds have the lead in this area, right?
here is the example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugoq8M2XxVE
Wiki ?
SkizZO said:
great idea for the app list but..... why don't you make it on the wiki??
in this way also other peoples can add/update other sw& versions, and we will never stressed to follow day x day all the topics apps.
Also, i've read about the "cubes"
If you can do something with cubes, why don't do it for "Cubes app" like the iphone one?
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Maybe a stupid question, but what do you mean with putting it on the Wiki ?
Nice plane images
Surur[/QUOTE]
Surur, thanks for the images, I will certainly incorporate them in the next version ! Could take a while, because I am going over the current apps again and try to improve them. It has been too long since I worked at the "Beer"
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Maybe a stupid question, but what do you mean with putting it on the Wiki ?
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look HERE
Anyone can modify it
Lander: when I turn on sound it quits
Airplane I really dont know what it can do except sound which is same all the time ...maybe my fault
Sound fixed
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Lander: when I turn on sound it quits
Airplane I really dont know what it can do except sound which is same all the time ...maybe my fault
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Fixed the sound and uploaded the new version.
As for Airplane it is based on a request from somebody to have the plane. I did not fulfil his request yet completely. Next version will change sounds when you "dive" the plane or change directions abruptly.
The main goal is to demo that you can turn your PDA (in landscape mode) around the axis and the plane will show different sides.
Also the sound will only play as long as you move the plane in the air.
I guess it is great if you want to fly a toy plane anywhere you like, but don't want to drag it around
If you don't like to play with toy planes, it is useless indeed, but hey who says that all programs here need to be useful for everybody
on many internet site i red, the x1 will have motion sensor.
i could find a menu. and diamond apps are not running. (error, missing dll)
so i hope that will really inbuild the motion sensor, and i hope for a diamond compatibel driver/wrapper.
has any body informations about the g-sensor?
tools like gsen?
thx.
x1 doesn't have accelerometer
take google search, and you will find a lot of sites, they are telling the x1 has got a accelerometer.
nobody knows exactly, what x1 can do. but i saw a video on youtube, with all time opened keyboard, and if the presentor rotating screen, the x1`s desktop will rotate immediatly. fake?
brace yourself
http://xperiancers.com/2008/09/26/your-xperia-questions-answered/
• Is there an accelerometer? No.
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take google search, and you will find a lot of sites, they are telling the x1 has got a accelerometer.
nobody knows exactly, what x1 can do. but i saw a video on youtube, with all time opened keyboard, and if the presentor rotating screen, the x1`s desktop will rotate immediatly. fake?
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You can hotkey one of the buttons to rotate the screen, most likely this is what they were doing.
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take google search, and you will find a lot of sites, they are telling the x1 has got a accelerometer.
nobody knows exactly, what x1 can do. but i saw a video on youtube, with all time opened keyboard, and if the presentor rotating screen, the x1`s desktop will rotate immediatly. fake?
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Seriously? The phone has been out for a month now and has been reviewed in its final hardware spec for almost 2 months. Everyone should know what the X1 can do. If you don't then you aren't even looking.
i want the g-sensor spezially for easy looking picture gallerys,
scrolling on big websites in opera by g-sensor.
gaming. for ex. labyrinth, flying tube style games, racing games,
shaking phone answer, and so on.
links with sites, the promote acceleromter.
dialaphone.co.uk/phone/Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1/
"Inside the device, the Xperia X1 features an accelerometer which switches screen modes depending on its physical orentation. "
obsessable.com/cell-phone/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/
and many many more. i have not time to search them all.
DOMin8or said:
i want the g-sensor spezially for easy looking picture gallerys,
scrolling on big websites in opera by g-sensor.
gaming. for ex. labyrinth, flying tube style games, racing games,
shaking phone answer, and so on.
links with sites, the promote acceleromter.
dialaphone.co.uk/phone/Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1/
"Inside the device, the Xperia X1 features an accelerometer which switches screen modes depending on its physical orentation. "
obsessable.com/cell-phone/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/
and many many more. i have not time to search them all.
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And yet... it DOESNT have it.
You have the device... go on to the settings and look up the settings for it... wait, you can't. Cos it's NOT there.
Xperia X1 does NOT have a g-sensor / accelerometer. PERIOD.
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i want the g-sensor spezially for easy looking picture gallerys,
scrolling on big websites in opera by g-sensor.
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Just map one of the two buttons to Screen Rotate. Problem solved.
Yup they stated it doesn't. However one little minor thing to note - when the N95 came out Nokia never admitted that it had an accelerometer. I don't know if they said it never had one (they may have done) but then some cunning developers found that it did and eventually (several firmware updates later) Nokia enabled it.
Given this and that the hardware is almost identical to the Diamond/Touch HD I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it may be on there but not enabled.....
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Yup they stated it doesn't. However one little minor thing to note - when the N95 came out Nokia never admitted that it had an accelerometer. I don't know if they said it never had one (they may have done) but then some cunning developers found that it did and eventually (several firmware updates later) Nokia enabled it.
Given this and that the hardware is almost identical to the Diamond/Touch HD I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it may be on there but not enabled.....
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I was thinking the same thing, the Ameo had the gsensor onboard but nothing using it until we had some roms that included the gsensor dlls.
There are detailed dissection (disassembly and assembly) videos of the Xperia X1. Could someone who is familiar with g-sensor/accelerometer components view the videos and see if there are any telltale signs of one inside?