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02 xda mini rom? updates? keep origonal? change to...i-mate?

finding it hard to get good answers....so in anybodies opinion
the 02 xda mini s
is there any updates from the origonal 1.5.4.2 WWE? if so where can i get em from?
If no updates, maybe the 02 rom isnt the most up-to-date?? and it would be better to change to i-mate? or a q-tec?...if so...which would people recommend? and where could i find them? also...would they effect my being on 02 at all or would evrything stay the same and just the device will work better?!?
what do people think?
jamie

Hello jamie,
I would think that you should at least upgrade to the qtek9100 rom if u worry that u might not turn back to the O2 provided ROM. Or if you want even better performance, you can use the latest imate ROM. But i read in posts that you cannot downgrade as the loki wizard does not work in this rom.
Anyhow, i'm using an xda mini S and using the imate rom though.
Cheers

I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John

jko said:
I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John
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Hello jko,
Yup u're right about having to use loki to unlock the rom. Search it in the forum and u'll find it. Just type loki.
After unlocking using the software, you can then install any rom for wizards, i.e. O2 mini xda s rom, imate rom or qtek 9100 rom. The one i'm using now is the latest one, which is the imate rom. I heard it cant be downgraded and we'll have to wait for an updated loki software to fix that. But the qtek 9100 rom can be downgraded again. I suggest u try the qtek rom as it makes the pda much faster. The O2 rom is really a turtle when opening the slider and closing it.
Hope this helps

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Can't answer your question, but just a request to post back your experience once you're done. It would be appreciated.
John

well, you could again search the forum for gprs settings. u may not get the automatic setup anymore, thereby may have to do it manually. search for O2 gprs in the forum. as for mms settings, someone made a cab file, I can't remember which forum , but again, it can be searched. Try O2 mms.
hope this helps

I've got the mini S too...
First thing I did when I got it was to get rid of all the o2 crap on it... couldn't believe how slow it was even in basic mode!
I did the whole hard reset then soft reset when it says "customizing..."
This basically leaves you with a bare o2 wm5 rom without any of the customiztion installed. MMS won't work and either will GPRS.
To get these working you need to install Total Commander on your mini S and browse to the /extended_rom/ directory.
The cab files in this directory are the files installed when it says "customizing..." on a hard reset.
You can then selectively install which ones you would like to install.
There is a brief outline of what each one is on the htc wizard page on the wiki but I've made a better one I'm gonna stick on there.
You also need to input the GPRS settings and MMS settings manually and install a cab from the extended rom that creates the MMS folder in the messaging application.
After you've done all this you'll notice a considerable improvement over the o2 rom with all the crapola installed.
I've also used lokiwizard to unlock it all.
Not tried the qtek rom or the new i-mate one... as I don't use push-email or the like and haven't found any considerable bugs yet I don't need to.
I have found naggaly features which after installing the RegistryWizard, NullKbd and a few others... they seemed to be solved!

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new imate one and i must give my approval for upgrading to this rom. Its faster, more stable, is much better on battery life for some reason.

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new iMate one
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Where can I get this. It does not appear to be in the Rom download area (or is it under a different name?)

its in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Well I successfully upgraded to the new i-mate ROM and it's MUCH faster. There's a lot less lag when sliding the keyboard in & out, and the general responsiveness of the device is considerably better.
I've managed to get GPRS working, and I've installed the MMS cab but I can't send or receive MMS's at the moment - it keeps telling me that it couldn't send the message. So I'm going to post elsewhere in this forum and check that I've got the correct MMS settings.
Overall though, I'd definately recommend upgrading to this ROM. Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup of the O2 Extended ROM beforehand so that you've got the MMS cab-file available to install at a later date.

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. I may well give it a go later today.
John

Code:
Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup
Is this the one from Ghisler.com?
I downloaded this but cannot find any instructions or reference to backing up the Rom. Any idea where I can get the instructions (if there are any).
Code:
browse to the /extended_rom/ directory
I cannot see this in the Total Commander Directory list.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Just got my o2 mini s a couple of days ago and I am loving it soo far!!
However, I already encountered a couple of bugs - the system laggss REALLLI bad, like when the slider is pushed out, even when closing/running certain programs the device hangs. Also, I have seen a couple of times where the "phone" application will not load up. In all these cases I have had to do a soft reset on the device.
I am thinking of upgrading the rom - but this is my first pda, and i know nothing at all about fidgeting with the software. I don't want to mess up such an expensive phone so is it pretty easy to do?

w_2k20a:
I too want to be careful.
I have 2 phones, and my O2 Mini S is slow compared to my MDA Vario.
So I am going to try and run an update to replace the ROM on the O2 with the newer one on the Vario, and also get rid of the O2 add-ins which are what slow it down apparently.
I will try this first because I have read about so many problems with the latest I-mate one, and it is not easy to return to the original ROM if it does give problems (although it is possible it seems tricky) - I may the Imate one later if I need to.
The ROM for the Vario (along with others) is here:
ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile/ - use password xda
Its the UK one.
But first I backed up my Mini ROM. I used awizard to do this. Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
I think that you will find that using the awizard (get it from this link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
the backup part is easy. I have done that quite successfully.
Good Luck.

WM6>2003?

How to roll it back from from WM6 to 2003?When I'm trying to do this,it gives me Country ID Error.what's the problem?Thank you

hello again!
have u tried this again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485240#post1485240 ???
are you using "MaUpgradeUt__NoId.exe" to flash?
there is a lot of information - what a surprise - in the good old wiki.... it's kinda confusing from time to time, but read thru it anyways, it does actually help!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardDowngrade0
good luck,
krz
ps: why are you trying to downgrade anyway...?

Thank u for quick reply))I have some troubles with WiFi.Also I'm not sure that WM6 supports all programmes created for 2003&wm5.Maybe this is the main reason.Is it true by the way?Can I run stuff for WM5 on WM6?

some progs will work, some maybe wont... best way to find out is to try!
but i never had problems like that....
wifi is working for me as well...
krz

As the WM6 is only slightly tweaked version of WM5 there are almost no problems with apps running on newer system. You'll certainly find much more apps which do not run on older systems like WM5 or WM2003 than on WM6.

Upgrading for newbie

I have installed a lot of crap on my pharos, removed some of it, but now its slow and drains the battery
So I was thinking; why not upgrade to Poldo's 6.1 rom? Only thing I don't quite know how to... After a lot of reading this is how I think I should do it - please correct me if I'm wrong!
1. Contacts and mail are synced with my computer, but not my sms' - how can I copy mys sms' to my computer?
2. Since my Pharos has Norwegian wm6, I'd like to be able to restore them if I don't like 6.1. The best way to backup my wm6 will be to do a hard reset (to rid of all clutter) and then follow this thread: Dumping a ROM from pharos. Raw to nbh? -> ESN & ITA original ROMs here Correct?
3. In order to flash a new rom I must sspl or whatever that may be..? Instructions in this thread: [SSPL & USPL] Flash any ROM to your Pharos Correct?
4. My phone should then be ready for upgrading and as far as I can see there are two roms available from Poldo964 and one from tom_codon. Which one of them is best? (by best I would prefer it to be fast and not drain battery fast).
5. How do I flash the new rom? do I need to "format" the phone first, or can I just flash the new rom like installing any other program?
5. Since the roms are WWE English I need a Norwegian keybord layout (containing letters æ,ø and å), and Norwegian dictionary (XT9?). Will this work? (26/06-08) HTC Diamond keyboards Final update If not; is there a norwegian keyboard and xt9 I could use out there?
As far as I understand it, this is the way to go, but I need confirmation/correction so i don't end up with a paperweight.
Or... Is there someone in here who could cook a Norwegian 6.1 rom?

even if you brick your phone you can send it in for repairs to HTC but they will tell you that (by flashing) you voided your warranty and will charge you for the repair.
at least thats what i have understood, maybe a more experienced user can comment on that.

avathar behemoth said:
even if you brick your phone you can send it in for repairs to HTC but they will tell you that (by flashing) you voided your warranty and will charge you for the repair.
at least thats what i have understood, maybe a more experienced user can comment on that.
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I suppose so, and that was the reason I wrote this post; to avoid bricking, and to be sure I'm doing things right - I struggeled 2 nights with this animated weather panel etc before I gave up

1caspian said:
I have installed a lot of crap on my pharos, removed some of it, but now its slow and drains the battery
So I was thinking; why not upgrade to Poldo's 6.1 rom?
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why don't you just do the hard reset, without flashing a new ROM? I personally wouldn't flash the phone without enough knowledge or a person by my side who knows what to do... I still hope HTC by themself bring a ROM update, for all the languages
Other Question - on my pharos, TomTom was pre-installed. [bought it from a friend] - if I play another ROM on it - TomTom would be lost? - The problem is, my friend lost the activation code for the tomtom ^^

vashi said:
why don't you just do the hard reset, without flashing a new ROM? I personally wouldn't flash the phone without enough knowledge or a person by my side who knows what to do... I still hope HTC by themself bring a ROM update, for all the languages
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Good point... but then it's nice to have the newest rom
vashi said:
Other Question - on my pharos, TomTom was pre-installed. [bought it from a friend] - if I play another ROM on it - TomTom would be lost? - The problem is, my friend lost the activation code for the tomtom ^^
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I Hav tt6 preinstalled, but I still have my activation code. I guess this will not cause me any problems..?

For tomtom activation, the activation "file" is on the memory card, so you won't lose it. Also, if you have the tomtom card included with the pharos package, you can request it again.

jose_sonseca said:
you can request it again.
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at tomtom directly? customer care?

Just before this post goes totally ot; If some experts could verify/clarify/correct my "recipe" in the first post I would be very happy!

vashi, through ttcode.com
1caspian,
1. To backup sms take a look here, PIM backup -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
2. A hardreset doesn't restore your original rom, you have to dump it before flashing it, you can find how to do it in that thread
3. You will need a unlocked CID, the best way is USPL/Hard SPL
4. It is personal, I prefer poldo ones, but you can try the two.
5. Connect throught activesync and follow the pc application
6. That diamond keyboard is only a skin, sorry no idea about this, maybe resco keyboard?
bye

Thanks a lot jose_sonseca!
A few questions still before I start...
2. If I dump the rom, and reflash it, do I then get a clean rom? Or is there another way of restoring the original rom?
What can go wrong in the process, and what are the consequences?

If you reflash your dumped rom, you will get your pda like it came to you, with all the original OEM apps like camera album, tomtom...
If the process have any error, you will have to reflash it in bootloader mode, so it's better to use hard SPL

I did a hard reset, installed HHC and pocket cm. Now it works wery well, and I think i'll wait with upgrading. Thanks for help anyway

Please help to an old member of the forum!

I want to upgrade my ppc to WM6 but I want to save my sms and contacts and load them to my ugraded rom.
Whats the way to do this?

I also want to ask, I have repaired my imei 2 years ago.
If I upgrade it to WM6 with a newer rom , could it cause a problem?
My rom version :2.13.9.23 WWE 2/23/06
radio : 02.69.21
protocol : 4.1.13.30
extRom : 2.13.9.123
Another problem is,
I forgot the password of ActiveSync , how can I disable it?

alpercan said:
I want to upgrade my ppc to WM6 but I want to save my sms and contacts and load them to my ugraded rom.
Whats the way to do this?
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Alpercan
download pimbackup from this site. you can backup your contacts, email & sms with it to put back on once you have flashed.
Suggest you dont backup system data as you cannot restore this safely on a newer os.
look at the good guide on upgrade section, i recomend lazy tools way.
Ur device is not network locked? so u should be ok.
If you ensure u have an original wm5 rom you can always flash this as a backup if flashing to wm6 or 6.1 goes wrong
good luck and welcome to flashing.........

Hi Timmy,
I backup cotacts sms and emails with pimbackup.But I have doubt if WM6,1 wont recognize this backup.
My ppc all unlock, CID etc.
Could the rom updating corrupt imei area?
And the last famous question which rom should I install??

alpercan said:
Hi Timmy,
I backup cotacts sms and emails with pimbackup.But I have doubt if WM6,1 wont recognize this backup.
My ppc all unlock, CID etc.
Could the rom updating corrupt imei area?
And the last famous question which rom should I install??
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When you upgrade to cooked 6.1 it will more than likely have pimbackup on it, if not install it. You will have no problems restoring ur contacts, email etc (system data & settings is the only problem so dont use it). I have used this method and there was no problem.
Im afraid i cant answer your imei querie, your best asking a mod (l3v3y is very knowledgable )
As for active sync password, do you mean the unlock code to get access to your device when its turned on? Ive not seen active sync with a password before. Im sure a hard resest would get rid of this password, but if your going to flash a rom, dont worry about it, it wont be there after your flash.
Ha Ha.... best rom? famous question..... There are many good roms out there. It is purely personal choice. Do you want a clean one (max speed and free storage) which you can then add the applications you want, or do you want a full one (maybe a little slower but not much) which comes with a lot of apps cooked in. Disadvantage of full rom ? - apps are always being updated and if apps are cooked in you cannot unistall them to then update them. So i guess you have to read up on the roms and decided.
Look for roms from l3v3y, varanusvincent, gullum, dioxda 2, all great chefs and have released many good roms.
Try a few and test them, only one way to find out. U'll find u cant stop flashing and testing when you start.
Read the good guide on upgrading section (the stickys). THis one is good too : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377904.
I assume you are upgrading from wm5 original rom, so spend a few hours reading, belief me its worth it
Have fun!
ps let me know how you get on with imei thing, i want to know too, you can never know too much!!!

Thank you very much Timmymarsh,
I updated the rom to Prophet Diamond and I ll try different roms as you said.
restore my data to new rom.

alpercan said:
Thank you very much Timmymarsh,
I updated the rom to Prophet Diamond and I ll try different roms as you said.
restore my data to new rom.
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No problem
Was the imei thing a problem in the end?

No , imei is ok too.
Do all the programs for wm5 compatible with wm6.1 ?

alpercan said:
No , imei is ok too.
Do all the programs for wm5 compatible with wm6.1 ?
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Mostly in my experience. You may get a message that "this program was designed for a previous version and may not display properly) but generally they work fine, you may just not have a full screen or some text isnt shown.
Afraid thats a "try and see" experiment too my friend

Help ! Three Colour Screen...

I'm out of my depth and an need of some help to get my X7500 back into working order !
I upgraded my machine to AP4, carefully following the nicely documented instructions, and it worked a treat. The new interface looked great. However, for some reason my GPS application (i-GO Europe) wouldn't work at all. After searching the threads and not finding anything there, I thought it would be best to return to my old ROM version - the official HTC Advantage WM6 Upgrade. Naively I thought that this would be just as simple as running the Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship executable - but I was wrong ! The update failed, and now I am left with a PPC with a pretty three colour screen...
ATHE100
IPL-v1.00
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50. OliNex
Is there any way that I can recover my device from this state ?

You have spl3.5
very easy to solve
just plug your athena to the PC and install a rom for SPL3.5 , there are several good ones, since AP4 didn't work for you and I cannot remember if AP4 can be installer from boot loader, the easy thing should be install the latest Michiprima rom (SPL3.5 not 1.20)
if you wish to install a original rom in the future remember to use spl downgrader to go back to SPL1.20
As always take memory cards from the device before playing and please read

Craigus said:
I'm out of my depth and an need of some help to get my X7500 back into working order !
I upgraded my machine to AP4, carefully following the nicely documented instructions, and it worked a treat. The new interface looked great. However, for some reason my GPS application (i-GO Europe) wouldn't work at all. After searching the threads and not finding anything there, I thought it would be best to return to my old ROM version - the official HTC Advantage WM6 Upgrade. Naively I thought that this would be just as simple as running the Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship executable - but I was wrong ! The update failed, and now I am left with a PPC with a pretty three colour screen...
ATHE100
IPL-v1.00
ATHE100 MFG
SPL-v3.50. OliNex
Is there any way that I can recover my device from this state ?
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Just reflash with a MICHY rom,any will do, but if you want to go back to SPL 1.2 then use THIS
However try Michy's latest r6.0 it is very good
Jay

PBL1 said:
You have spl3.5
very easy to solve
just plug your athena to the PC and install a rom for SPL3.5 , there are several good ones, since AP4 didn't work for you and I cannot remember if AP4 can be installer from boot loader, the easy thing should be install the latest Michiprima rom (SPL3.5 not 1.20)
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Thanks very much for your advice !
I thought I had to have an ActiveSync connection to load a new ROM onto my device. But you were right - very easy to solve.

responderman said:
Just reflash with a MICHY rom,any will do, but if you want to go back to SPL 1.2 then use THIS
However try Michy's latest r6.0 it is very good
Jay
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Tried the Michy R6.0 and it does look good. Still having problems with my GPS application though, so might have to go back to the original. Will play around with this one in the meantime.
Thanks for taking the time to make your suggestion.

Craigus said:
Tried the Michy R6.0 and it does look good. Still having problems with my GPS application though, so might have to go back to the original. Will play around with this one in the meantime.
Thanks for taking the time to make your suggestion.
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In regard to the GPS have you upgraded your radio version above 1.5
Radio 1.57
or
Radio 1.58

lakeman said:
In regard to the GPS have you upgraded your radio version above 1.5
Radio 1.57
or
Radio 1.58
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Very good point that may make all the difference
Jay

lakeman said:
In regard to the GPS have you upgraded your radio version above 1.5
Radio 1.57
or
Radio 1.58
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Unfortunately not !
I ended up loading AP3, and my GPS application worked on that. Now I've gone back to the official WM6 ROM. When I have some time, I might reload the AP4 ROM and try the new versions of the radio - but I need a stable device at the moment.
Thanks again

i just remembered
i just remembered you have to disable htc home in AP4 for igo to work
Just load michys large htc home cab instead

god, got to love the community spirit

Up and Running
lakeman said:
i just remembered you have to disable htc home in AP4 for igo to work
Just load michys large htc home cab instead
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> ROM Version: AP 4.0 Platinum
> ROM Date: 11/09/07
> Radio Version: 1.58.00.00
> Protocol Version: 32.91.70.20.20H
Just an update for those interested. I'm now running AP4 with i-GO happily running away. Not sure I needed to update the Radio version, but you were right - I had to turn off the HTC HOME in Today.
Thanks for the help from those more experienced. It was greatfully received and, although I haven't had time to really use the upgraded device in anger yet, I am currently very happy with it.
Just one last thing. Have you got a link for the said 'michys large htc home cab', as that would be the icing on the cake to have that lovely Home available.
Thanks very much !
Craigus