Charging LED Red, Everything working, Multiple Batteries. - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Ok, I recently picked up a used Jasjar (decent price deal) and would make a good backup to my 9000 (when it's screen is fixed).
The owner changed the case on it from the I-mate grey one to a black O2 Xda Exec case.
In the process the owner missed a few things that I have been correcting along the way to bring the unit back to full functionality.
I have nearly everything working except the ChargeStatus/Notification LED.
Notifications are coming up RED flashes (like if i set notifications for voicemail).
Charging is Red, and never turns green even after the battery hits 100%.
The charge works fine and the battery thus charged has lasted about as long as it used to in my Qtek. I figured to try my battery to rule out a bad battery and so I would have a comparable runtime analysis.
Synchronization and all other features appear to be working. Just this frakking LED. Heck, even the notifications in and charging in Red (instead of orange) doesn't bother me to much, just it not turning green when done bothers me. I've charged 3 different batteries (2 known working in 9000 (heck even turn green if I connect my screenless 9000)(heven't tried the one that came with the phone yet).
The Network/Wifi/Bluetooth LED appears to be working correctly with Green and Blue, etc.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention that I have tried different flashes including the same full release I was running on my Qtek 9000 without any change to the functioning of the LED.

Does anyone know what the error would be like if the little battery on the main-board was bad? i.e. would it then never list as completely charged and thus even after the main battery reached 100% never go green since the on-board battery was dead?
Really trying to figure this out as it is ticking me off to no end and I am worried that in it's current state where it stays in "charging" mode even after the battery hits 100% that it will do damage over time to the battery itself.
Any help/thoughts/suggestions/pointers/ideas/etc appreciated.

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Exact meaning of led notifications, my phone won't charge

I know my mda has a red - orange - green (bi)LED and a blue LED.
Yesterday my battery was very low, but i couldn't charge it because i wasn't home. I thought that it wouldn't be a problem, i 've backups at home, etc, so i didn't worry... When i was back home i tried to charge it, but when a do so, a red light shows up and after a while it changes to blue.
Does anyone know what's wrong or at least know what the different colours mean?
tested the battery -> full
tested my battery in another phone.. was completely full, so the charging is not a problem, but i'm afraid my phone is dead...

universal dead?? HELP red light!!!!

Hello, earlier today i felt the device was very warm, i tried to switch it on but it dint respond, even to a reset. when i plugged it into the wall charger all i get is the right hand LED glowing red.
HELP!!!!!!!!!!! how do i hard reset it or get it to work again!!!!!!
i would call in orange care, but im out of the country and i really need the pda functionality!!!!
Unlucky. The 'red' light on most HTC devices indicates a serious power problem, usually it means that the battery is dead (as opposed to simply having run out of charge) or very close to death. You can probably get it working again with a new battery, if the incident hasn't damaged any other components.
i had this with my JJ after I accidently let the battery run down, I plugged it in and led went red and unit would not power on, left it plugged in started scanning the manual and web about a red led, 30 mins later, JJ just switched on and all fine.
It's worth a go and ive not had problem since
i dont think that was the case...
i have a feeling it might have been a short or something, because the unit was SERIOUSLY hot.....
nothing i did worked....until............
final time before giving up, the light was still red etc.
i figured what the heck, either way its dead and im going to get a replacement.
i then gave it fairly hard thump
the red light disappeared. i thought to myself, oh crap, i've really killed it.
then i reset it............. IT BOOTED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and all my info still intact......brilliant.....im still going to try and get a replacement when i get back, but thank goodness.
and here i was thinking the last computer to respond to physical violence was the old 486'es hehehehehe
afhstingray said:
and here i was thinking the last computer to respond to physical violence was the old 486'es hehehehehe
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Actually, it's called percussive maintenance, "the fine art of whacking a machine till it works"
hehe, i'm an IT technician and it's the first thing i try, especially with Printers.....
They don't teach you that on MSCA courses.....
I would recommend not using the machine too much until you can get a replacement battery if I were you. Lithium batteries will get very very hot (in some cases expand and ignite) if they are dis-charged too far. Most equipment which uses lithium technologies will have a voltage cut-off on the power input. As each cell is a nominal 3.3V-3.6V, this is often at around 3V in order to not discharge the battery too far. I would have hoped that this was a HARDWARE function rather than software. However with what you have described, if the voltage cutout was somehow disabled, then this could explain the problems.
Of the units that I have seen in the past like this, the red LED would describe the battery voltage being too low to safely power the unit (i.e. battery be dead). Generally a couple of minutes charge will bring it up to a safe working value. However, after 30 minutes this certainly should have been enough. On one of my motorola units, the battery has expanded a couple of millimeters as it starts to dissociate. It may be worth you checking to see whether the battery in your universal has distorted in any way.
Hmm the red light comes on mine all the time.
It just means the battery is low and the unit is charging. .
It should turn green when the battery is at or near optimum charge.
no....thats not the red, charging is orangy when i say red i mean PROPER red. battery is not distorted, and to the best of my knowledge the unit had a good charge, im pretty sure it must have been some kind of hardware short, and am going to call orange as soon as im back in the country.
dosent explain though why when i whacked it it started working again. the whack instantly made the light go out :wink:
i did a battery rundown test as soon as i got the unit, and posted the results on the forum, if the cut off was not working, i would have ended up with a red light then.
i dont have the manual with me now, but is there any documentation on the red light?
Found this site which had an online manual:
http://www.rich-michael.com/pdf/User Manuals/050802_Universal_Generic_Manual_English_CDL.pdf
What does the phone say in the Power Tab?
A really useful extract:
13 Notification LED Bi-color LED on the right side: Green and Orange
for GSM/WCDMA standby, SMS message, GSM/
WCDMA network status, notification, battery charging
status.
Bi-color LED on the left side: Blue andGreen for
Bluetooth system notification of powered-up and
ready to transmit radio frequency signal, and Wi-Fi
status.
Couldn't find anything else on the LEDs
Found this site which had an online manual:
http://www.rich-michael.com/pdf/User Manuals/050802_Universal_Generic_Manual_English_CDL.pdf
What does the phone say in the Power Tab?
A really useful extract:
13 Notification LED Bi-color LED on the right side: Green and Orange
for GSM/WCDMA standby, SMS message, GSM/
WCDMA network status, notification, battery charging
status.
Bi-color LED on the left side: Blue andGreen for
Bluetooth system notification of powered-up and
ready to transmit radio frequency signal, and Wi-Fi
status.
Couldn't find anything else on the LEDs
Sorry to drag up this old post.
My friend dropped my phone (Orange SPV C500) a few days ago on to a tiled floor. The phone didn't appear to be broken or faulty at all at the time. I even managed to use TomTom navigator to go to the airport, but for some reason when I looked at it before I went to sleep, the phone was off. I assumed the battery had gone (even though it should have lasted at least another day). I tried to plug in the mains charger, but the LED showed a red light. I left it plugged in while I slept, but it was the same in the morning. The phone won't power on at all. I've read that this normally happens on a flat battery, but I am pretty sure it still had juice for another day.
I brought a new battery, but to no avail, the phone still shows the red light when plugged into the mains. No light at all when plugged via USB to my computer. The phone won't power on at all.
It must have broke something when it was dropped. But I'm confused as to why it took a few hours to take any effect.
I also notice that even without the battery in the phone, the LED will still light up as red when plugged in to the mains.
I've tried whacking the phone now, but nothing. Anyone have any idea whether it can be fixed?
JOEJOETHEJOEY said:
Sorry to drag up this old post.
My friend dropped my phone (Orange SPV C500) a few days ago on to a tiled floor. The phone didn't appear to be broken or faulty at all at the time. I even managed to use TomTom navigator to go to the airport, but for some reason when I looked at it before I went to sleep, the phone was off. I assumed the battery had gone (even though it should have lasted at least another day). I tried to plug in the mains charger, but the LED showed a red light. I left it plugged in while I slept, but it was the same in the morning. The phone won't power on at all. I've read that this normally happens on a flat battery, but I am pretty sure it still had juice for another day.
I brought a new battery, but to no avail, the phone still shows the red light when plugged into the mains. No light at all when plugged via USB to my computer. The phone won't power on at all.
It must have broke something when it was dropped. But I'm confused as to why it took a few hours to take any effect.
I also notice that even without the battery in the phone, the LED will still light up as red when plugged in to the mains.
I've tried whacking the phone now, but nothing. Anyone have any idea whether it can be fixed?
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this is damn scary! Every day more people add on to the "my univ's gone dead after a small drop" community :?
When my univ was brand new, a friend of mine dropped it from a coffee bar table 3 feet high, and i still heave a sigh! Cant believe nothing happened...!
But one thing i guess we all know, its a "drop" away to kiss our device good bye :roll:
hope you get it back up and running m8! look around the forums, there are lots of breakdown-solutions threads...
cheers,
San
nice work afhstingray
do you think it was a baterry problem.
i have often used my battery till tit just ran out, from what i read in the post it seems to be a bad practice. anyway to turn off the phone
i doubt it was a battery problem as i've been using it until now without problems. (i didnt get a replacement as soon as i got back cos im waiting for this unit to get a bit scruffy before i get it replaced)
i had this once on my c500 as well, but taking out the battery for an hour did the trick. so i dont think the problem is related.
i've dropped my universal quite a few times already and im happy to say other than a few annoying dings on the metal plate with the orange logo, its working fine. and 2 of the drops were pretty bad ones too, i thought for sure the screen would die or crack. guess i got lucky and it hit the floor at an angle not too critical
total stab in the dark but maybe a broken connection on charging circuit? that could be why phone was ok then battery died and its now unable to charge?
ViaraiX said:
total stab in the dark but maybe a broken connection on charging circuit? that could be why phone was ok then battery died and its now unable to charge?
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wouldnt it have worked if it was plugged into the AC then?
Well my Exec was dropped onto concrete at the petrol station whilst I was trying to sort out TomTom and fill up my Yamaha R6 bike at the same time :roll:
No problems, just a couple of case marks.
I guess multitasking should be left to the ladies and computers :lol:
steverae said:
hehe, i'm an IT technician and it's the first thing i try, especially with Printers.....
They don't teach you that on MSCA courses.....
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Also explains why Servers are built so solidly.
When you are trying to recover a server at 2am in the morning they need to stand up to all but a sledgehammer :twisted:

Issue: Battery not charging

Hi all ... I got a new battery for my Universal and it worked fine for few weeks. Then I got a new device (Kaiser) and I no long use my old one for about 3 months. When I tried to use the Universal again I discovered that the charging led is always off and when I remove the battery it turns on in red ... I 'm sure it's a battery issue coz when I put the old battery back the charging led goes on.
so, the question is: could be the battery dead bcoz I didn't use the device for few months ? ... and if so, how can I fix it ?
TIA
This is a somehow "tough" question, answer is not easy without inspecting the battery electrically, but, with a multimeter you could check the battery's voltage, check it, it should not be too low (above 2.5V), if it's lower, try to fully recharge it (leave it on charge inside the phone at least one night).
Universal does three things when the battery is discharged:
If it has been fully discharged, it might show the red led for a couple of minutes (while the battery acumulates enough energy to begin the boot), or stays red when the battery is missing.
Orange led (in charge) or nothing for a couple of minutes, then orange (this might be your case), it means that the battery is not dead but the device is booting and while the system returns to "idle" it cannot give you any indication of charge (because you need a "idle" state to have such message).
After so much words, it might be more convenient just to buy another battery, with today's prices...
thx so much for all this info .. actually in my case the led is always off when the new battery is inserted .. it goes in orange with the old battery ... so, im sure the charging circuit is ok ... I just wonder what happened to this new battery which have not been used except for few weeks
it might just be dead, poor quality batteries are the most commond these days, even more if you bought it thorugh Ebay.

My LED Is blinking orange/green during charging and battery is draining.

This doesn't look good to me. I had my phone tethered to my laptop while I slept which I do often with no problems. Today I got up and saw the LED was blinking orange and green. I looked and the battery was down to 11% even though the status bar showed the battery as being fully charged.
I popped the battery out and in, tried again, same thing.
When I plug it in the LED stays solid orange for about 5 seconds and then stats blinking.
I tried it on the OEM charger with phone turned both on and off.
It doesn't appear to be charging and the LED's are blinking green, orange.
Does this seem like a bad battery? I live in the US so accessories are hard to get, I don't have a spare battery to test yet.
What do you suggest? I have a new battery coming but it's going to take a while before it shows up.
I had that too for a minute. I suspected a faulty charge / sync cable, swapped it out, and never saw these LEDs again.
Had that too. I'm using a second non OEM Battery, I will try it with the original and give feedback.
I had that with my small charging-cable (non OEM) in my car.
I've tried multiple cables. I'm hoping the battery is the culprit. I have another one on the way but it's literally on a slow-boat from China. If it's not the batter then it's the phone and that's no good. Doesn't charge on, off or in bootloader mode. I've read all the threads and it really could be either. Fingers crossed.
My LED was blinking orange/green too
I was using a non-standard (cheap) battery when this suddenly occurred. Changed to original battery and everything was OK again. Seems like the original batteries are best after all (even if they cost ten times more in my country).
Think that too. My Original Battery works well. The Battery from China is "blinking" sometimes for about 15 minutes.
same or even worst problem
During the first day i buy the phone and charge for 10hour, after that i switch on my phone i was shocked my phone wasn't charge at all but the indicator light show from orange to green.
so i charge my phone for the second time, this time its show 100%. i browse the phone setting and function all that less than 30min and before i sleep it was left 70plus % and after i wake up its left with 20plus % and the timing from i sleep to wake up less than 5hr. my wifi ,gprs bluetooth 3g everything is off except the alarm.
now i charge my phone for the third time after charging for 8hr i switch it on and it did charge but only 20plus % and i continue charge my phone for the forth time. i sucessful switch on the phone and its show 100% but it suddenly turn off, i was shock don't know what went wrong i try switch on the phone and its show the phone is low battary.
so i charge it again and the indicator light turn green less then 1min and my phone becoming weird i can't charge and switch on. once awhile it can be turn on.
so i try charging it again and the phone keep on restart.
i got so fedup as the phone is a brand new set and use it for less then 1 week. i'm going to get it fix tomorrow.
anyone with the same problem or know anything when wrong can help pls.
Hard reset helped me + check if a cable is deep enough in the phone
i try already its still the same. do u have the same problem.
i was charging my phone 2 day ago, and listening to music and downloading a lot of mb from internet with wifi, and i putted it under my pillow
after about 2 or 3 hour i pulled it out and saw the orange and green blinking
my phone was like a fire stone, it had a very bad result, the lcd doesn't had touch sensitive anymore
after 2 hour the sensitivity came back, but the story didn't finish yet.
after that, every time i charge this phone, the lcd sensitivity goes off,and after i cool it down, sensitivity comes back
but now while i'm sending this message, the half of screen doesn't have any touch sense what is your suggestion for me???
I had the same issue with my original battery - turned out that the middle pin in the battery connector had been bent when I swapped batteries - I straightened the pin back to normal position and now it charges fine again.
Jon
i am having this problem too. the led is blinking and the battery is not charging. i am forced to use a cradle to charge it up.
The orange and green blinking on charge happened to me a couple of times. In all instances the phone was too hot due to having it covered or temperature of the room was also too hot. Allowing it to cool made it work again. I haven't suffered from this problem ever since I started keep it well ventilated. Hope this helps.
yup. i google for it. and notice it due to overheat. i tried with air con on. it seem working well.
but for me. i cant feel any overheat (like hot/heat on my device when it start blinking.
hide.
The blinking light is the phone saying its overheating
this happened to me but the worst thing was I could of bought a 1500mAh battery from Hong Kong for something like £5/6 but i decided to buy one from my own country the UK and i read that an extended type was the best so i bought an extended 1350mAh for £7.99 thinking i would have no issues but its with this new battery that it overheats if i am charging via wall or pc and using my phone!
using tbattery it says the battery is only a 1230mAh anyway!!
but with my original battery i can charge and use at the same time so kinda annoyed i thought i was paying more to get better but i guess i live and learn
so now i have ordered an 1600mAh for my phone for £5.99
i should just use it as a backup battery .
p/s : what is the average battery temperature ?
My HTC LEO "HANG" when incomming call???
please help...i have htc hd2 (asia/indonesia)
Why my phone HAMG when i recieve incoming call?
somtimes hang when recieve sms too...
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
My email : [email protected]
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please help...i have htc hd2 (asia/indonesia)
Why my phone HAMG when i recieve incoming call?
somtimes hang when recieve sms too...
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
PLEASE...HELP ME...ANYONE....
My email : [email protected]
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Don't hijack threads!
Start a new one otherwise you won't get any reply for your efforts!
I bought 2 batteries from eBay. The cheap Hong Kong one does this at 60%. The other one was from the UK and claims to be the real thing, and it charges all the way to 100% and has given me no problems (it's the one I've been using for the last 30 days).
Moral of the story: Buy official batteries.
Hi all,
a few days ago I`ve got the same issue. Please don`t laugh, but sollution I`ve found is really funny.
Firstly I was trying to flash different ROMs, Radios with no luck. Trying to clean battery contacts and phone contact pins, especially the middle one, with no luck again.
Then, thinking logically ( ), I`ve found what changes occure to my phone. I didn`t flash a new ROM, didn`t intall any new software and so on before the charging become naughty. The only thing that changed was the temperature around, now here is hot like in hell: about +30C. So I plugged in portable charger and put it with my hd2 into refrigirator (changed it to maximum t to avoid any inconvenience) into low humidity container. In a few hours battery stated was shown as 100%. The next time I was trying to charge it again in the room, but got only blinking led, had to put it back into refrigirator
Seems that battery or phone has a temperature sensor, which stops charging when batt t raises above safe level. I believe sometimes this sensor fails or smth like that and charging can be stopped even when t is not so high..

[Q] battery problem, red led light is blinking, bought new battery, no bettering

Hi guys!
I know, that there are some threads about the topic, but i think, here it is a bit different...i´ll describe:
Everything was OK with my withe G1, since I forgot to recharge the battery, and the G1 switched off. I wanted to recharge it, but - you know- the red led light blinked...i read different threads etc, and then I decided, to buy a new battery. The new battery arrived yesterday, and I put it in my G1, tried to switch it on, and it worked. I was quite happy! I taped it on the charging unit, and the first problem: the battery display didnt moved, it remained at 23%, also after a few hours at the charging unit. I knew the problem, because it was the same with my old battery, but it doesnt interest me, because the battery recharged, only the battery indicator showed that not. I thought OK, dont thinked about it, and waited. Today: I took my G1, yes, battery display at 23%, no problem. I switched it off and after a few hours I wanted to switch it on. Second problem - F**K! The red led light blinked...and now, the battery doesnt recharge at all. The G1 works now only, if the charging unit is put on it, if I remove it, the G1 switchs off. Its the same behavior with the old battery.
I dont know what to do now, because i dont think, that it is a hardwarebug, because yesterday it worked, with the brandnew battery. Or is it possible, that the G1 destroys my batterys while switching it off?
I hope, that there are solutions for this...because im loosing my temper slowly...
Can you charge the battery if the phone is off? Red led light should show. You should wait even 30-60 minutes for this - it depends of battery discharge. If the red light will not show this will means that your hardware is broken (phone or phone charger). You can try use another phone charger to test.
That works sometimes....at the moment not, but one hour before, yes.
I had the G1 with the USB cable on the PC, the phone was off, the light was red (not blinking). I waited about 50minutes, then disconnected, tried to switch it on - nothing except a red led light - blinking
At the moment, there isnt any led light, if i connect the phone to the charger unit or the PC...
It looks like hardware problem :/
Would be OK, because there is still warranty.
But what irritates me, is, that it worked without problems, when the battery was charged. Also with the new battery...worked good, since I switched the phone off.
I only want to be sure, because the return merchandise authorization (rma) takes quite long time...
I have the same problem. last week i bought the phone, and used it till the phone battery was empty. I tried to recharge the phone, but i wouldn't go on, only the red light blinking. I had the phone charged for 2 days, with the og charger, no result. Looked like the phone was dead.
Today i tried it again, still no result. All of a sudden the phone turned on and was charging. It is now on 99%.
Should i contact HTC?
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sorry, wrong forum
Just a wild guess. It could also be the ROM that you have. I had a similar problem with my battery drained out like that with flashing red light. Come to find out later that it was something to do with the ROM (CM6.x) that I was using.

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