Does this look familiar? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Check out this contact manager.
http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/contact-manager.html
Dont know if its me, I find it looking like PocketCM. With a different theme but with a small additional feature, call history

I agree with you. It's way too similar... and they're developing a "sms chat"... I saw that before right here on the forums...

Would be a nasty abuse of tene's hard work. He did the work, he deserves the money!!

IMHO tene's version is still a lot better, but it does indeed look like theft.

I saw on their site they're develloping easy-type as well, which might be similar to PocketCM keyboard! If so... a bloody shame!

labru said:
I saw on their site they're develloping easy-type as well, which might be similar to PocketCM keyboard! If so... a bloody shame!
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Well, maybe I'll play against myself, but as long as they don't use my binaries, that's fine. It seems to me that's another implementation of the same ideas, and I don't own the ideas.
Did anyone tried it? is it good? for 19.95$ I hope it is

haven't tried it, why pay when i can use your version free

I gave this one a shot
Although there is no novelty as far the idea is concerned,the implementation is quite good!
Heres the difference between tene's version and this one :
1:> One tab assigned to Call Logs
2:> Animations are slightly different (Flip up/down instead of Flip Left/Right in tene's version)
3:> Setting a contact as a favourite is extremely easy
(On the contact detail screen , there is a star..you just have to select that star to set the contact as favourite..IMHO this is easier/quicker than two taps approach in tene's version)
4:> Animation seems slightly faster and even browsing through the alphabet index is very quick
5:> No support for SMS chats
Most important difference IMHO is that contacts can be edited/deleted through this app. This is a very nice feature as it allows you to change user information be it contact number/address/name etc. using its own input method/panel (Although creating contacts is still via normal way)
All in all,a good effort..but I wouldnt like to pay for this one especially when a free alternative is available and that too a very good alternative .Nevertheless,I would expect tene to give a look in to the features for his next version (if theres gonna be one)

I'll continue
6:> About 1,4mb installation
7:> Pretty slow to boot
8:> Weirdest built in keyboard ever.
9:> Much more fluid in use than pocketcm. (wizard)
10:> Scrolling works much better (slows down and accelerates more like an iphone)

you can download a trial version...
personal opinion, it sucks compared to tene's CM...
the only advantage is that it has a call log which probably tene can easily add.
- pictures do not show on the initial phonebook list
- also phone numbers do not show
- pager numbers do not show on contact details (i'm a doctor and use very frequently)
- no sms (my favorite part in tene's CM)
- you can only sort by either first,company or last name (CM you have an option to sort by city, category, company, sms....)
- comes in only one boring theme - (there are some excellent themes out there for CM and i like to change every few days)
- doesn't have the search option.
- address doesn't show in contact details (you have to press a button which takes you to the built-in contact manager for the address and more details!)
the list goes on and on...
so, NO way would I pay 20$ for that software... even if it was for free and I had to pay for Tene's CM I would still prefer tene's CM, his software is far more superior.

lol @ the built-in keyboard
I'll add:
11:> PCM looks much nicer not to mention PCM can use themes. Funcontact can't.
12:> PCM has a lot more features (although that's also exactly the same thing I hate about PCM.. it's starting to become bloatware). Funcontact works.. it does what it needs to do in a convenient and fast way.
13:> No support for landscape (it doesn't flip even if you slide the keyboard). It stays in portrait no matter what. It's good in a way because it keeps the app stable, unlike PCM which starts to screw up whenever I slide my keyboard out to type SMS.
14:> It caches everything on memory on program start
15:> So far, it's very stable
16:> It uses the WM GUI for sending messages
Well, maybe I'll play against myself, but as long as they don't use my binaries, that's fine. It seems to me that's another implementation of the same ideas, and I don't own the ideas.
Did anyone tried it? is it good? for 19.95$ I hope it is
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I got hold of the "free" version (ahem.. sorry guys, I'm not going to give links)

PCM still better, but I agree with you it becomes bloatware if Tene keep adding unnecessary features.
DaVince said:
lol @ the built-in keyboard
I'll add:
11:> PCM looks much nicer not to mention PCM can use themes. Funcontact can't.
12:> PCM has a lot more features (although that's also exactly the same thing I hate about PCM.. it's starting to become bloatware). Funcontact works.. it does what it needs to do in a convenient and fast way.
13:> No support for landscape (it doesn't flip even if you slide the keyboard). It stays in portrait no matter what. It's good in a way because it keeps the app stable, unlike PCM which starts to screw up whenever I slide my keyboard out to type SMS.
14:> It caches everything on memory on program start
15:> So far, it's very stable
16:> It uses the WM GUI for sending messages
I got hold of the "free" version (ahem.. sorry guys, I'm not going to give links)
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But there is one reason why funcontact is better than pcm contacts:
!!!It works on wm2003!!!

gogol said:
PCM still better, but I agree with you it becomes bloatware if Tene keep adding unnecessary features.
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Like what?

hi tene, a bit off topic, but where can i get the basic theme for pocketcm? the one posted in the screenshots at your site.

You should ask the original poster DaVince about that bloatware
I just emphasized that.
Got it tene?
tene said:
Like what?
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It's obviously still in its infancy...
If you take a peek at the BMPs for the app. they show Call and End icons plus many others, waiting to be switched on!
It's been said already that there is development planned for SMS chat and a better keyboard (their current one is BIZZARE!).
I've put it on my phone to do a comparison and it does seem faster (once it's loaded). This might be inpart due to the lack of fades and zooms between some screens.
I like the contact detail screen and the simple option to SMS to any number. Very nice deign, but then it should be...they pay professional designers to do the work.
The switch to view the contact in the Windows app is almost INSTANT! so no worries for me about a lack of address.
Given some layout options and skins and maybe 6 months to develop, it could be excellent.
Does use a lot of RAM to run though and I miss the filter option at the moment. Like I say thgouh, time will tell which app comes out on top.
I'm very much looking forward to Tene's next release, due soon. If he's got any sense (and he has), some of the nice little touches may well find their way into PocketCM
Oh yes, if you want the Vito icons for your PocketCM theme, you know where to go ;-)

As some have noted, PocketCM is free. However, that should not stop you from supporting Quentin's (Tene's) hard work and donate *something* so that he CAN continue to support and refine it with your direct suggestions.
G.

Hey, I also tested this "funcontact".
Its not bad, and looks also nice, but the scrolling didnt work well on my prophet... PCM does...
I prefer PCM because it can handle my SMS and there are possibilities to customize.
The only thing better in funcontact is the callLog.
PS.: It looks really like PCM, but its not the orignial.
TENE U did a real goog job man, thanks

providence said:
haven't tried it, why pay when i can use your version free
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If yoo use a software and you like it show some apriciation with a donation..

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Finger Friendly Friends (Contact manager)

Found this in the Kiaser forums, a new Contact Manager.
Its Brilliant.
Looks great, easy to use, and low memory footprint.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1617787&postcount=1
www.jotto.no/fff/
You should give iContact or PocketCM a test run. I personally prefer iContact.
7s7 said:
Found this in the Kiaser forums, a new Contact Manager.
Its Brilliant.
Looks great, easy to use, and low memory footprint.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1617787&postcount=1
www.jotto.no/fff/
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I personally agree that this is a very good app to use when you have more than thousand contacts to search for.
Scrolling in PocketCM is good when you don't have a lot of contacts.
would have been a great app if you could localize it like icontact and pocketcm.
without localization, it doesn't have much use for alot of users....
Is this just for WM6? I tried to install on WM5 and got an error message when I tried to run it.
'The file fingerfriendlyfriends' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file.'
They keyboard is Norwegian at the moment because... humm.. I'm Norwegian ;-)
It will become customizable before the final 1.0 release. You will be able to define your own keyboard.
As for WM5 compatibility: it's compiled for WM6, but that's only because I haven't installed the WM5 SDK myself. It will most probably become WM5 compatible as well.
Very nice. It loads faster than PocketCM and doesn't stay resident.
imisim said:
You should give iContact or PocketCM a test run. I personally prefer iContact.
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+1,icontact 0.3 is very easy to use,better than PocketCM and the other contact manager ...
Looking very nice so far.
Any chance of adding finger scrolling to the search results?
Also what does more do as I can't press it?
daverage said:
Looking very nice so far.
Any chance of adding finger scrolling to the search results?
Also what does more do as I can't press it?
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Scrolling will be implemented, but perhaps not finger scrolling (it will be incompatible with the selection method).
The "more" is just a label telling that there are more contacts than the ones being displayed. I will replace it with something more descriptive.
Very nice
I find the idea very good.
Fuzzy recognition of typing.
In my opinion a merge of pocketcm (threaded sms, scroll list...) with your idea would be really the best .
Much better then all commercial solutions out there.
EDIT- Jumped to other forum thread. Sorry.

Pocket CM

Hi guys,
I have been going through quite a bit of reading of the threads here in XDA Developers. I realised alot of people is using Pocket CM.
When i read up what PocketCM is used for, it is offering functions that the Polaris default contacts manager offers to. Finger scrolling, Random Alphabetical Access at the side and such. The only main difference i found is that PocketCM has skins and thats all about it.
May I just ask with politeness that what is the main difference about PocketCM that you guys are encourage to switch from the default contacts manager in polaris to PocketCM ?
Greatly Appreciate it..
Thanks
The main reason is that it can easily support the language you want (apart from English, for example Greek contact names) in a WWE ROM.
Oh ok... only that ?
Hmn.. alright.. then i think i am fine with the default contact manager
For many users the supported skins (iphone look) are much much better than the default contact manager. This is a good reason too...
i saw it on one of the youtube video Can you just enlighten me if the finger scrolling is much smoother than the one offered by the default contact manager ?
donchen said:
i saw it on one of the youtube video Can you just enlighten me if the finger scrolling is much smoother than the one offered by the default contact manager ?
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I used PCM for awhile and uninstalled it. I found performance to be lagging.
However, you should give it a try and see if it works for you.
donchen said:
i saw it on one of the youtube video Can you just enlighten me if the finger scrolling is much smoother than the one offered by the default contact manager ?
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This is true... it's working smoothly on Polaris.
JNGold said:
I used PCM for awhile and uninstalled it. I found performance to be lagging.
However, you should give it a try and see if it works for you.
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Well, I used PCM too, for about one hour and uninstalled it. But I have a problem: when I press "Contacts" (in the right corner or in the Start-menu) i get an error that he can't find PocketCM...My Polaris doesn't open my old Contacts-list. Somebody got the right solution? Also, I uninstalled it on the right manner, but the program symbol "PocketCM" remains in my Programs.
It's a nice app. It's smooth, can be made to look really professional, but I found it laggy, tempermental and ultimately uninstalled it.
It has several advantages over the default viewer (larger text for a start) but in the end it just got annoying.
Does someone know how I can solve my problem? When I press Contacts I get an error:"The file PocketCM cannot be opened..."...someone who knows where I can change the function of Contacts so I get in my good old contacts-list again...Thx in advance
Need to regedit. Do a search on the Dev/Hacking forum for ":MSCONTACT".
As for PCM, it also has threaded SMS capability. And I guess some would say its "slicker" than the stock contact app.

Touch SMS

Why the hell has no one made a touch SMS program?
I HATE the one that comes with pocket PC with a passion.
I agree with you a million percent. I've used vito sms and pocketcm but they both annoy me...slow and inconvenient (in my opinion. I know there are a lot of happy pocketcm users )
Anyway, I'd be willing to pay for a skinnable sms app if it was exactly the same as the existing one (ie: has got the same menu..sms/mms, windows live, outlook etc, but just looks a LOT nicer)...so if there's anyone out there
Honestly, i'd pay too, and i haven't paid for any of my software for years.
as much as everyone will hate me for saying it. Id love to just see icontact with there version of threaded sms. not a huge fan pocketCM for some reason. but atleast they have threaded sms
Yup, people ar going to "hate" you for it. LOL
The big plus for iContact is its speed for the basic duties of looking people up and dialling them. It is a phone in the first instance.
I have both installed and use both depending on what i am looking for.
deedee said:
Yup, people ar going to "hate" you for it. LOL
The big plus for iContact is its speed for the basic duties of looking people up and dialling them. It is a phone in the first instance.
I have both installed and use both depending on what i am looking for.
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haha! yea. me too. I even created a CM theme that looks identical to icontact. it's a genius program.
I´ve found IContact V.0.5, and I'm using since that. The must is that with only two strokes I can match a contact and make a phone call, or iniciate one SMS, this is in my opinions the basic concept, and remain like this.
If somebody want to put in one application, contacts, sms, mme, phone call, outlook, opera, netfront, picsel, wifi, gprs, and ..... they are free, but don't complain about the monster.
PCM with all those screens and options to do this and that, might real good, no complains, but too much ways to reach a simple thing, find one contact
One more thing, what's the ideia about a finger friendly SMS app. ?
Menu ? Keyboard ?
Pisca said:
I´ve found IContact V.0.5, and I'm using since that. The must is that with only two strokes I can match a contact and make a phone call, or iniciate one SMS, this is in my opinions the basic concept, and remain like this.
If somebody want to put in one application, contacts, sms, mme, phone call, outlook, opera, netfront, picsel, wifi, gprs, and ..... they are free, but don't complain about the monster.
PCM with all those screens and options to do this and that, might real good, no complains, but too much ways to reach a simple thing, find one contact
One more thing, what's the ideia about a finger friendly SMS app. ?
Menu ? Keyboard ?
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Finger friendly, maybe not - it's finger friendly already I guess, but there's a loooong way to go appearance-wise. Something like iContact but for sms (a separate app) would be perfect. That way the styles match, and if it were to have the same qualities as iContact would be fast, simple, customisable and very convenient.
The windows one isn't very finger friendly.
Something like the iPhone's SMS program.

[Request] S2S Maybe?

Greetings,
I am issuing this request (maybe to A_C) for a program code named Slide 2 Switch. It is essentially an AltTab program where it prioriztizes the programs youuse. So if you open File Explorer and then settings it gives file explorer 2 and settings 1. So if you slide your finger from left to right it shows priority 1. If you slide your finger from right to left it shows lowest priority. is it possible to build somehting this simple? I am not that good at coding but making some animation would make it cool to. Thanks.
since we are requesting for A_C great S2x programs, i would like a S2R, a reading threaded sms program =) i use sms-chat now but its slow to start =/
S2C contacts would be nice too
actually, if all my programs were S2x i would like even more my phone =D
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since we are requesting for A_C great S2x programs, i would like a S2R, a reading threaded sms program =) i use sms-chat now but its slow to start =/
S2C contacts would be nice too
actually, if all my programs were S2x i would like even more my phone =D
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why not buy an iPhone ? No, just a joke, I really love A_Cs apps too. But think further: If everything looks like Apple / iPhone, whats the use of it ? Although it might be skinable it is just a copy of what Apple has achieved. In fact, there are lots of apps with lots of potential - but most coders don´t care any about usability or interface design. A_Cs apps are, amongst others, popular because of the UI. But please, just take a look at apps like PointUI: simply genius UI, and it does NOT look like iPhone !
regards,
Martin
Wow! This is literally like the 5th thread I've seen in the last month with "S2*" requests.
PM A_C!!!
Agreed, theres no need to make a thread for requesting stuff. Just Private message the guy!

How can we get this ball rolling?

okay ive had a fair few htc devices, and im a fan of flashing custom roms etc.
i've just ordered an s740 as i think they look like lovely devices and have heard good reviews so far.
Now i've seen olipro's thread which went off topic..
so how shall we get the development ball rolling?
how about a collection to get olipro one of these devices
(going for about £180 - £230 on ebay)
and im sure if we all donate £5 - £10 (or more or less if need be) it wont take us long before we get some good custom roms etc
i know i can't be the only one out there thinking this!
Let me know what you guys think
comon guys
50 views and not one comment?
is everyone really that happy with their device???
Hi,
I only find 1 thing annoying. When the keypad is locked I am still able to use the keys for volume.
For the rest I think the device is pretty good.
Ray
r-jansen said:
For the rest I think the device is pretty good.
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I think it is pretty good as well but could still use a few tweaks. I would contribute to any of the following on an otherwise clean ROM...
OS
Windows Mobile 6.5 - Well this is an obvious update, especially if HTC never offers one.
Usability
Tx9 - Sometimes Tx9 is used and sometimes not in various applications on the ROM. Would be much better if it were one or the other.
Browser System Command Warning - Warning on dialing phone numbers from the browser seems unnecessary if the dialer is going to 'verify the number is correct' anyway.
Key backlighting - Frequently I get a reminder late at night and the phone is locked but the reminder doesn't turn on the key backlighting so I can see which option is which. Other applications are inconsistent as well.
Home start menu All Programs - I would prefer to have the option to not see 'all programs' there.
Home start menu scrolling - I don't like having to choose 'more' there. I would much prefer the scrolling through each panel of nine icons.
1,2,3,4 app - I suspect this is an HTC feature but I really dislike having one more UI to learn. When you flip the keybaord open it shouldn't prompt you with a 1 SMS, 2 email, 3 messenger and 4 exit menu even if it is for 5 seconds. Better to keep whatever menu you are in.
Features
Weather Panel - This seems like it should use the GPS and pick a city. Also, if you turn the phone off or in flight mode and turn it back on it should recheck the GPS and change the city or prompt to change the city.
Option to keep keyboard locked even if open - Well some of us have little kids and they figure out how to get the keyboard open pretty quickly
Codecs
I don't know what ships by default but some obvious codecs would be AAC, AC3 and any other standard codecs.
Additional Applications
Impromptu Meeting App - The automatic ring feature is great if you use exchange since your phone will go into vibrate mode in meetings. In fact you get kind of dependent on it handling that for you so if you go to the movies or dinner or an impromptu meeting you forget to switch to vibrate or afterward you forget to switch back. It would be nice to have an app to put a placeholder appointment on your calander for an hour or two (which would switch to vibrate) . Even better if it would remove the appointment afterward.
Shortcuts - It would be nice to create shortcuts to applications in something that shipped with the ROM.
Settings
Home Page - I know this can be changed in the registry but while someone is at it change the web homepage to igoogle or google mobile.
If I like something on Rose, it is boredom with her when setting/tweaking. Without any "exciting" seeking/trying/zilions of reflashings of ROMs.
And, to be honest, MOST of things on your list ARE included in basic settings and some others are easy to be changed by simple (permanent!) tweaks in registry. I'm lazy to collect here what's where, so just two examples:
Rose IN STANDARD supports not just AAC, but AAC+ and eAAC+ as well, others are H.263, H.264, MPEG-4...
Function of your lovely Impromptu Meeting App you can activate on standard Rose in seconds: just activate Auto in Profiles. OK, it does not vibrate (it switches into quiet mode), but it exactly switches automatically ringing behaviour based on calendar events IN STANDARD. And they're much more such things (avoiding Action Menu, keylock not deactivated by sliding of te keyboard)...
So instead of calling for extra ROM, which will do what's already there, my recommendation would be classic: Read the f..... manual first. And if anybody would see gimmicks like iGoogle on homescreen or GPS based weather as so exciting that it will deserve tens (if not hundreds) of working hours on extra ROM just for these - you'll be a lucky man.
IMHO, spending few hours with searching around for settings and these few tweaks would be much faster and time efficient...
we don't need HardSPL, SSPL would be fine. Perhaps we bribe Olipro
$10 each ? whats his price
I'm sure if one of you lent oli your rose for a bit he could work his magic and get the job done
fuk i am on board. can we have some info from olinex(olipro+cmonex) as to how much donations is needed to get this done! i am getting one but shocked as to the lack of dev activity here. come on guys support yourn device.........once we have some solid feedback from the olinex crew then we can get ball rolling! they would really need the device but it is so similar to the touch pro in form factor that HDSPL for touchpro might need slightly tweaking to work on s740
I think this forum is dead no one poast here no one wants to do something with this model..are you so happy with your phones as they are without any improvements?
Maybe if someone could give as a tutorial how to make an HSPL we could do it more fast and we could make the ball rolling can someone do this?i am would be glad to help and do something for this device cuz it`s too awsome :d
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fuk i am on board. can we have some info from olinex(olipro+cmonex) as to how much donations is needed to get this done! i am getting one but shocked as to the lack of dev activity here. come on guys support yourn device.........once we have some solid feedback from the olinex crew then we can get ball rolling! they would really need the device but it is so similar to the touch pro in form factor that HDSPL for touchpro might need slightly tweaking to work on s740
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well, I guess if it's enough to buy a htc rose for testing it'd be good.
cmonex said:
well, I guess if it's enough to buy a htc rose for testing it'd be good.
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how much would be needed to get this device? i got mine pretty cheap through the trade contacts..............
shingers5 said:
how much would be needed to get this device? i got mine pretty cheap through the trade contacts..............
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I have no idea... how much is pretty cheap? I don't mind if it is SIM locked. can make SIM unlocker no problem

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