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I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
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Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?
I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.
I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee
Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark
Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C
What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know
Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles
Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles
Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark
I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?
Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.
dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.
you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product
Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C
Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16
Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA
please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal
I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.
I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.
my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.
Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.
8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!
My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.
Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance
Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.
Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal
Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.
Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.
Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either
this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10
drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....
Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying
Hi,
Can't find anything in any other threads so here goes..
My M3100 (TYTN) turns bluetooth off when I turn off my Sony HBH 300 BT earpiece.
It doesn't happen everytime, maybe 50% of the time. It wouldn't be a problem but during the working day I connect and disconnect maybe 10 to 20 times and when I get back on the road and fire up the earpiece I suddenly find no BT.
I'm normally not in a place where I can safely stop to go through the connections screen to re activate it....
Not had this problem with any other phone, Nokia, SE etc...
I think it also happend once or twice after turning off my TomTom One whilst running the traffic BT connection to my phone...
It is getting to be a pain, so much so I'm considering using a OLD Nokia instead of the M3100. Only advantage is the M3100 allows more than one BT connection at the same time although you do have to connect the BT earpiece before connecting to the TT One unit...
Any ideas how I can stop it turning off without ME actually turning it off, never happens anyway, I just leave it on...
HELP !!
Phil-w
I have a similar problem and would love to find an answer before my 30 day return period is up! I haven't been able to find out WHY my BT radio always shuts off, but about half of the time I get in my car the BT is off. This - and the MS Voice Command hack not working with my particular HF - is going to make me return this thing.
BTW, I have Cingular 8500 with stock WM5.
Worked for me
Hey guys. I had a similar problem a while back.
I had installed a comm manager, and my BT was randomly shutting off. After getting some responses, I uninstalled the updated comm manager, everything has been working fine ever since.
I would recommend following the same course of action. If you don't have the original installed, maybe try installing a new one.
I recommend keeping the phone. It's great. There is SOOOO much you can do with it. If you are unlucky and got a lemon, that's a different story.
But I do not think this problem is common... good luck.
Last week I updated my ROM to the latest official AT&T release, and my BT problems *appear* to be solved.
I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its speaker works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?
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I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its output works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?
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I do have exactly the same problem. After flashing XDA Mobile 6 Release 3, microphone has worked for couple of days, and then suddenly died. Interesting, microphone is working with Notes but not with phone. I went back to
XDA Mobile 6 Release 2 for some other reasons (read: 2MB more free memory for critical application) but the problem with Bluetooth microphone remains. Radio is 2.25. Any advice?
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Pogo
There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is sometimes temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though
I have been asked to join this thread. Per a PM:
We love the ROM you have provided, and are very thankful, however it was not until installing it that this issue arose. It does not seem fair to leave a number of people with a phone that is unusable for 'phone calls'.
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I don't know what to tell you. If the rom doesn't work for you, then don't use it... Don't tell me its "not fair". I use MS Voice Command, and XM6r3 and have never seen this issue with my Bluetooth headset (Jawbone). I've also tested this out with a Plantronics Explorer 210 headset that I have and it has not problems with XM6r3 either. My A2DP headset (Spider) also works fine on XM6r3 with MS VC. I've stated this in the past when people have said they have BT issues on my rom. Sorry, but I can't reproduce it, so its hard for me to fix something that isn't broken for me.
Try this... Do a hardreset on your device (take a backup first if you want), then leave it as the base rom with NOTHING extra added. Run that way for a few days (how ever long it has taken before) and see if the problem happens again. If it doesn't then its not my rom but something being added to it (probably screwing with the registry someplace). If it does happen, then as I've stated before, I've seen a number of BT devices be flakey on WM6 (especially car kits). Try a different rom then. If someone with the problem can pin it down, I'll be happy to do what it takes to fix this issue if its something in the rom that is causing it.
Thanks mfrazz. What wasn't fair was not the bug, but that you had not responded to previous mentions of it, i.e. not fair to leave us with it. We love the ROM and put a lot of our life in your hands in a way, as we rely on our device so much for work and play. Hope you understand.
Now then, I have already tried a hard reset and the problem never occurs, until WM6 is put back on. Sure, 'use another ROM' is all very well, but we love yours - again, hope you appreciate the sentiment. If you're in a relationship, are you the kind of guy who tells a girl who loves you, 'find another boyfriend', or do you try to make it work
SO, I am wondering if this is related to the glitch you mention where sometimes when switching out of vibrate mode, the ring tone becomes muted. For that, your solution is to play the ringtone again, then it becomes unmuted.
Similarly, our Bluetooth devices mic's are being muted, and if we mute then unmute them again, then they become unmuted. A link that helps point you in the right direction?
Please note, this is not certain bluetooth devices being 'flaky', this is ALL devices. 4 at the latest count, including rock solid Nokia CARK7W car kits and Jabra headsets.
Some people put it down to MS Voice Command, which I have never installed. What does that program do, do you know, to cause the bug? Again I hope that might help point you in the right direction.
Please don't dump us Let's try to fix what is wrong in this relationship
BT problem solved?
CJSnet - not sure if you have resolved this. I was having the same problem and noticed people with reTouched dialer were not, so I loaded that dialer and the problems went away. I am using a Plantronics Voyager 510. Seems the problem might be with the standard dialer.
Hope this helps
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There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. However WM6 has pretty much finished the Wizard for me, and I'm hoping to get a TyTN II soon as a replacement. Shame.
Hi,
hopefully anyone has an answer to the strange bluetooth behaviour of my X1.
The first device is a bluetooth headset from Sony. It works good, if bluetooth is activated. But after some time of not using the headset, the phone just switches off bluetooth. Sometimes after a few minutes, sometimes days after my last use of the headset. I tried all settings of the bluetooth-settings with no change. And it sucks if with the next phone call the headset cannot connect anymore because bluetooth was switched off.
The second device is a GNS TrafficBox Plus FM9BT-Y. Somehow MN7 does not detect the device directly, so I have to use the workaround with the serial port and outgoing connection on COM1.
The initial minutes the connection works fine, but then stops and is not restored.
Here as well trying different settings changed nothing.
How can I find out the address of the bluetooth devices?
Is there a tool to further test bluetooth connections (like what speed can be used, the address of the device, etc)
Regards
pt
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
I have Ra2generic DE with the 1.10 radio ROM on it.
At the beginning it was fantastic not having the bluetooth issue. Everything was working so extremely goood... no switching off, no disconnecting of and from the bt headset,, etc...
After a while the issue was here again...damn! So the bt became not very useful in its functionalities.... then I saw that it was not possible to see through my bt freespeech device in the car the last calls on the phone... hm, ok I said. There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
i have the same problem, the bluetooth disconect without any reason, i have tried more than 10 Roms and i dont have any solution
¿is so dificult for Sony to repare this problem?
zagito said:
There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
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I hardreseted the device, installed the newest official firmware, deleted the calling list and with great expectations checked bluetooth behaviour.....nothing changed for me
But great it works for you and thanks for the tip
Come on people..... please someone help us with this
Bluetooth with clarion mind
Am having trouble connecting with my new Clarion MIND - is seems the phone does not see the profiles (very similar to the phone adding the older SE Bluetooth Watch, the 100). Has anyone built a .cab to sort this out?