BT PAN to Smartphone? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

The Universal only supports slow GPRS in North America, however, I also have an HTC Cavalier which supports fast 3G.
I would like the Universal to retrieve data from the Cavalier at 3G speeds.
I have achieved this using the BT DUN hack for the Cavalier and then letting the Uni dialup a connection with *99#. However, this has a couple of drawbacks:
1) Cannot make/receive a call simultaneously
2) The BT DUN hack requires the phone to be restarted to re-establish a regular 3G connection on the Cavalier (i.e. for Push Email)
The idea situation is to have the Uni connect to the Cavalier through BT PAN (instead of DUN) so that "Internet Sharing" may be used. Is this possible? Maybe another method?

afeudale said:
The Universal only supports slow GPRS in North America, however, I also have an HTC Cavalier which supports fast 3G.
I would like the Universal to retrieve data from the Cavalier at 3G speeds.
I have achieved this using the BT DUN hack for the Cavalier and then letting the Uni dialup a connection with *99#. However, this has a couple of drawbacks:
1) Cannot make/receive a call simultaneously
2) The BT DUN hack requires the phone to be restarted to re-establish a regular 3G connection on the Cavalier (i.e. for Push Email)
The idea situation is to have the Uni connect to the Cavalier through BT PAN (instead of DUN) so that "Internet Sharing" may be used. Is this possible? Maybe another method?
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Impossible. As has been pointed out in my latest BT PAN hack guide ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335543 ), the MS BT stack can only act as a server, not a client. That is, unless you completely ditch the MS BT stack and install the Widcomm stack instead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1115973 , linked from my related article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1649&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ), you can't do what you want.
All in all: either the Widcomm BT stack or nothing.

Hi Menneisyys, Thanks for the info.
I tried the Widicomm stack but it behaves the same way, only DUN is available on the Uni. Any ideas to get it to be a PAN client?
Thanks again.

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EDGE or 3G in JAM through BT

Hi,
As u know all JAM supports GPRS only!
I wonder if I get EDGE or 3G supported phone with BT enabled, Can I surf the INTERNET faster within the JAM by that phone through the BT connection? or maybe BT itself make connection to Interent less fast !
Thank u nin advance
Any one??
Any one??
The problem is, that the Magician uses the MS Bluetooth Stack which, as far as I know, only supports to be used as a modem, not to use a modem of another device. One of the many drawbacks of that stack. Maybe it works with the Bluesoleil stack. Maybe you give that a try.
Concerning the throughput, Bluetooth 1.2 is physically limited to around 700 kbit/s. But that's only in theory. Usually, you can't get much more than 200 or 300 kbit/s. When using the internet over ActiveSync (which is the only possibility to use another device as internet access as far as I know), the connection speed is even slower, maybe 100 to 150 kbit/s.
So try the Bluesoleil stack or ask about this in the corresponding thread.
I already tried it wiht a Nokia 6630.
It works very well, after you downgrade the callerid program that caused the gprs problems.
Really? But how can you configure the modem settings? I mean, where do I setup the password, number to dial, TCP/IP settings etc.?
Pair the cellphone with PPC (and when it asks for a com profile, answer NO... You need not to have COM5 active to have cellphone works). Then make a new connection through bluetooth so it asks you which BT device to use... Then use *99# as phone number (with Wind ITA you don't need any user/password). It works for GPRS and also 3G GPRS, don't know how to do for EDGE...

Bluetooth Modem + Universal Help

Hey everyone,
Okay I'm going to try and explain what I am trying to do here, but I'm sure I'll miss some steps. I think I know what the problem is, but I still can't figure out a way to resolve it.
I have a Sony Ericsson Z710I mobile phone. I also have an i-mate Jasjar running AKU 3.2 (JW's Rom). Here is what I am attempting to achieve.
I want to use the Z710I as my telephone. I have bluetooth turned on and have connected the Jasjar to it. On the Z710I I have enabled the "bluetooth internet" option and set it to connect to the proper APN. On the Jasjar I have created a new network connection that uses Bluetooth modem, and have put in the APN as *99#.
So when I connect the Jasjar to the internet, it dials the bluetooth on the Z710. It recongnises the *99# command and connects to the proper APN and connection. This is the point in where it just doesn't want to hitch up. The phone has full access to the internet, however ... the Jasjar is just grabbing data traffic and I'm not sure why. It reports connected and is communicating to my knowlege.
When I disconnect the Z710 from the internet, the Jasjar immediatley reports that the modem has disconnected. That why I figure there is communication.
I have tried (on the Jasjar) to edit the network card settings for the bluetooth adapter to 'obtain IP automatically' but it made no difference.
Does anyone have any ideas ( or questions for me to help clairify?)
Thanks
Nathan
What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.
Menneisyys said:
What kind of communication did you try? Internet Epxlorer? Opera? Messaging?
For example, IE, which is based on the Connectivity Framework, has a lot of problems that may render a connection non-working - I've written several articles on this stuff. A solution is trying with,say, OpMob / Messaging to be absolutely sure it's not just an IE-related problem.
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I tried using activesync as well as IE, google maps and other internet based connections.
I just tried it right now, dialed the connection and tried to activesync. The z710i connected at the Jasjar's request and the Jasjar said connected. It then just sat there "synchronizing folders"
There are two APNs available through my phone. One is for WAP traffic, the other for Internet bound traffic. My phone is connecting properly or it at least setup properly to route traffic over bluetooth to the internet one.
I did hook up the phone through a bluetooth adapter on my computer and used it as a wireless modem it did work there. I wonder if the problem is the Microsoft BT Stack (it doesn't have a PAN profile).
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
Just a thought.
Thanks
Nathan
lirathal said:
Do we have a way to uninstall the MS BT Stack and install the WIdcomm one which would support PAN?
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Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)
Menneisyys said:
Are you sure the z710i would support PAN server? I don't think so.
If it does, then, check out the Hermes / Wizard Widocmm BT stack hacking-related threads; hope the stack can also be hacked onto the Universal too.
(Unfortunately, AKU3 with its new BT approach (see my related articles if interested) won't work because it only supports BT PAN server mode for dial-up purposes, not client mode.)
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I'm not sure how to check if it supports Bluetooth PAN server. I know that the Z710I can be used as a Bluetooth Modem (as I said previous, I hooked it up to my computer and used it as a internet connection - but when I did that I had to enable PAN client support on the PC [i think]) .. So is this where we are inherantly are having the problem? The Jasjar doesn't support PAN Client therefore, when it connects it doesn't know what to do with the connection?
I have figured it out.
I connected my Z710I to my laptop and I examined the "dial-up" connection and the syntax for the connection number was *99***2#
I changed the connection on my Jasjar, connected and everything is wicked. Now I can still sync my Jasjar while using a regular phone for a while.
Talk about a Personal Area Network .
Thanks for all the help.

Surf the net with bluetooth and home connection

Hi all,
I've seen a lot of threads specifying how one would go about using the bluetooth to share the phone's internet connection. However, I would like to do the opposite, that is, share the PC's internet connection via bluetooth so that I can surf the net on my phone (I do not have wifi). Any help would be most appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274581&highlight=bluetooth+modem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313886&highlight=bluetooth+modem
many more hits of you use search and search "bluetooth AND modem"
thanks for the reply, but i already know how to do this. Perhaps you didn't understand my question; I do not want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem. I would like to use my home ADSL connection via bluetooth to access the internet through my phone. This feature was there by default in my SE P910i, and I'm sure it should be possible to do this via my XDA as well. Once again, I do NOT want to use my XDA as a bluetooth modem
when connected to activesync pda's have the same network access as the pc they are connected to unless one have disabled it
so synch with bluetooth to your pc and you got it's internet
Check this page. Hope it helps you
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449
I'm successfully running such a setup, using Linux (w/ bluez stack) on the Internet Gateway. However, I had only luck with the Widcomm stack on the Windows Mobile, w/ the MS stack, I could not manage to find any way to use DUN or NAP. With Widcomm, you can configure access via a "Bluetooth Access Point", which will use DUN services on the Host (Gateway) computer. On Linux, this means setting up dund (comes with bluez) and configuring a PPP profile for it.
Any idea if Widcomm BT stack is available for installing it on WM5. I think mine is with MS by default and couldnt find an option to configure it.
I think it isn't offered for free to the public. Nevertheless, there seem to be a few CABs with the broadcom/widcomm stack out there in the WWW. Google might lead you the way...
Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.
I have succesully used DUN with both my original iMate Jamin ROM and PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 ROM to access the internet via a linux box running Bluez and dund.
I was hoping the new PAN profile in wm6 would allow me to simplify and setup a standard wm6 PANU -> linux NAP. However it looks like wm6 only supports running as a NAP and wont allow you to do that unless your connected to the internet via GRPS etc.
Is it possible to either add support for PANU in wm6 or activate the NAP without an active connection?

Sharing Wi-Fi connection via bluetooth

I have two WM phones - One smartphone (benq e72) and HTC himalaya (pocket). As all there knows, himalaya does not have Wifi. But e72 has. So I want to share wifi connection from e72 to my himalaya with bluetooth.
It should look like - I connect to any access with my E72 and I can use that connection at my himalaya.
It is possible? If yes - How?
Check WMWifiRouter. It should do the trick ...
http://global.wmwifirouter.com/features/
Or, if it doesn't, check ICS Control : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047
It should allow you to route BT PAN to WiFi interface ...

Web surf through the BT connection of another cellular

Is it possible to use the internet connection of an HDSPA cellular through the BT as if my HD was a PC with BT dialup?
Found!
In Connections you must create a new remote connection with a Bluetooth modem(the other cellular) and the use the numeber "*99#" without username and password...
Works perfectly!
Just for record, you can use any BT phone with support for DUN profile, even a CDMA with Data support. This can be useful where HSDPA is not available and GPRS/Edge is too slow for practical use/costlier.

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