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got it!! thanks
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.
FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.
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HI.THNX MUCH
I forgot to mention:
The only difference is that after every ~1MB of content downloaded, the connection restarts. When browsing web pages, it is not noticable, however, when streaming audio it will re buffer every 1MB (which for 32kbps, come out to about every 7 mins).
I've read about the tzones hack and it seems like its a pain. I mean I'm all for saving money and $5.99 compared to $29.99 is a big difference, but is it really worth it?
The 'T-Zones' hack (actually the feature is now called 'TMobileWeb') works great if you take into the lmitation of the Proxy server port restrictions and the 900k limit on a continuous stream of data.
If you just need to browse the web it works great. If you are into streaming audio, then it can be a pain. At around 900k I get an error that I have to disconnect and reconnect to overcome. I can't use my favorite IM program because it does not support a proxy.
Is it worth the hassle? I guess it really depends on your needs.
Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.
so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time, and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?
sekks said:
so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time,
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Definitely. I'm using the hacked AIM and I am able to use PIE at the same time.
sekks said:
and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?
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Not too sure about this one, i'm using a POP account and having my phone send and receive every 15mins to check for mail, which then downloads and shows in my inbox (labeled Comcast on my device). Search around for the exchange server question, I read it somewhere in a thread with a tzones topic but i wasn't too interested in it so i skimmed through it.
FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.
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What I am saying though is that mine stops at 900k and gives an error that the server is not responding or is busy. I then have to re-establish my stream to continue.
I wish mine would simply buffer.....consider yourself lucky. It seems that some people don't suffer the same limitations as others. It varies by area it would seem.
what is the t-zone hack? thanks
I got it and it's running great
But I can't log into my messenger .....
help , please
Where are the settings I have not seen them on the topic. The one I use is
Proxy Settings
[email protected]
and the waps are
wap.voicestream.com
Is this is what everyone is using? if not please post the other hack.
yea post the hacks please, thanks
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using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?
SwerveAM said:
using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?
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Damm it man either I jinxed myself or you did lol Access denied as well
yeah, i think t-mobile is catching on to this workaround. The funny thing about this is that I am able to access AIM, check my mail, and do other things, except browse the internet with any web browser. T-Mobile is probably putting restrictions into url searches. I'm not exactly sure how this whole thingamajiggy works, but i guess they're blocking web browsing, and want us to use T-Mobile Data, for 29.99.
that really sucks, i've only had the mda for about 2 1/2 months.
Still working great for me. I doubt that they will do away with the proxy server because even the most basic phone now days support full HTML browsing. They would also have to introduce some intermediate feature (between the $6.00 Tmobileweb and $20.00 balackberry) to compete with everyone else if they did.
I am trying to get my internet apps to run using this proxy setting but the only thing that works is the internet explorer. I have the network management pointing to my tmobile data setting that containes the proxy. Any one have a solution for this?
Hi,
Does anyone know if tmobile make additional charges for non web traffic on their basic web and walk plan. For example will I be charged for acessing an SSH server.
Hi,
You shouldn't receive any additional charges, the Pro package allows you to use 3GB and the phone as a modem, whilst the Max package allows 10GB and VOIP use.
I'm not entirely sure how they check but seeing as the basic package advertises internet on your mobile, I dont see how a pocket pc ssh client would be breaking that.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the Max so that I can use skype and I'm starting to use alot of data now I've got Orb set up...!
Hope this helps,
Just spotted this on the site...
(Basic should)
Not to be used for other activities (including but not limited to): modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video downloads, internet phone calls and instant messaging.
The question is what does not limited to cover. I note somewhere else on their site it says you can't download pdf, xls,doc or mp3 on basic. it's really not very clear and the support staff don't seem not understand what an SSH server is. I don't understand what's wrong with just having a simple usage cap.
If you want to connect to your work email (i.e. MS Exchange) with Telstra you have to use Activesync and what they call the Windows Mobile Email Solution. This is by way of an extra fee for a Email Pack (costs between $0-$40 depending on your call plan). This option then allows you unlimited email (or at least until you get to 1gig) provided it is through Activesync and Ms Exchange (i.e not POP or IMAP). It seems that Telstra route the Activesync data usage through a specific APN to that used for internet browsing (which you pay for separately). Presumably, this is set up in the Tesltra Rom that the HD2 comes with (in the form of the Dedicated line used for access in the Activesync settings on the phone). My concern is that if I flash my rom with any non-Telstra rom, these settings will be lost and if I used Activesync with standard Internet access (through telstra.internet APN), I may get a hefty bill at the month. Does anyone know what settings Tesltra uses for Activesync and if one could use those settings on a generic Rom? In addition, if Activesync will work through the telstra.internet APN, a plain Internet pack for $19 for 1 Gig is better value than the Email Pack (most users wouldn't used that much for email in a month). However, I'm not sure if Activesync will work on Telstra other than through its chosen route (Activesync requires the network operator to allow a connection to stay open for up to 30 minutes with no traffic). I've tried to find out from Tesltra what the settings are: all they would tell me is that any flash (even from HTC) will void my warranty!
Work email
Just connect directly to your Exchange server and dont worry about the Telstra bloat. All you need is a normal data pack, and hook up to your Exchange server (either via Active Sync or on the email tab). Don't pay for the extra email thing.
Regardless of the ROM, it will auto configure when it detects Telstra.
That's all you need. I'm with Telstra and regularly flash cooked ROMs.
rdster said:
Just connect directly to your Exchange server and dont worry about the Telstra bloat.
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Nah the problem is that the exchange e-mail the OP is talking about is a product/service Telstra offers which on any other phone requires you to set an APN different to Telstra.Internet or Telstra.WAP etc. It has the same functionality execpt that it acts as a VPN/Proxy for the exchange server connection.
I was previously using this on an iPhone without issue but cannot get it working on my HD2 as the carrier ROM won't let you change the APN.
I haven't tried it yet, but I'd assume that with any other ROM you'd set the default APN to telstra.<custom_name> and everything including exchange activesync would work.
I've always just used the normal telstra.wap APN for connection to my Exchange server.
But one thing I have found is that Activesync doesn't like keeping a connection alive if using the recommended proxy servers (150.1.181.* from memory).
So for the HD2 the preconfigured "Telstra Internet" gives me grief whereas using "My ISP" with only the telstra.wap APN and no proxy servers works fine. The difference in battery life is very noticeable as the phone is not constantly trying to maintain a connection.
the telstra website seems to suggest that the Email Pack allows access through a special route which is optimised for battery life and has been developed with Microsoft. I am guessing that these settings allow the phone to stay connected to the Excahnge server longer than Telstra would otherwise allow (when data goes through the usual internet APN).
It is really frustrating that Telstra can't/won't explain how it all works.
The pricing also makes me suspect that the Email Pack is a bit of a rip-off: if you don't choose to add it to the business mobile plus pack, you get 600MB of free data in your pack. If you choose the Email Pack, you have to pay an extra $20 and then your internet data (i.e. non-email) is reduced to 100MB. Which then means you have to add a 1Gig Data Pack (in case you use more than 100MB and get rorted with the Telstra excess data rates).
It would be really nice if Telstra was more open as to why this Email Pack is worth paying an extra $20 for.
I suspect the reason they are not is because it is a bit of a rip-off.
sounds a bit dodgy to me, letting your network operator become an active link in your work email chain.don't think I'd like o2 to be anything more than a blind data carrier for my works stuff.
Even downloading all e-mails in HTML with attachments and doing light web browsing I don't use more than 100-200MB a month so it isn't really an issue for me as I just buy enough prepaid datapacks.
When I got rid of the proxy servers I expected to have problems connecting to web sites and service but haven't had any dramas. I assume the special e-mail route bypasses any proxy servers and is optimised for exchange server push email traffic. But it does seem like premium pricing for the privilege.
With the announcement that T-mobile will start charging $15 per month for tethering this month, does anyone know how this affects the HD2? I have installed the wifi tethering app that was in the European ROM and it works fine, but I was curious how T-mobile is going to detect/impose the tethering fee. Does anyone have any info on this?
I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc. EDIT* : Normal browsing/downloading on the phones browser that is...just to clarify.
From what I understand, the tethering package is going to be just for people that tether, IE, if your device isn't tethered, then you won't be able to use data...only if it is psyically tethered to a PC will you be able to actually access data.
The HD2 should not be affected by this as it had tethering before this plan came in and it is intergrated into the OS. Tmobile typically grandfathers users in so since we all signed up for this data plan before this change came about, we should not have any issues.
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I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc.
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They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........
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They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........
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For t-mobile to sniff your packets to detect that is likely against the law and there's nothing stopping you from editing the user agent string in your browser to make it look like a mobile browser
Its one thing for a customer to break TOS by tethering, at most you are breaking civil contract law, all TMO could do is terminate your contract or maybe sue you in civil court for breech of contract, they likely would not go that route.
However for them to start sniffing customers packets would be breaking CRIMINAL law
There is also nothing to stop a mobile browser from reporting itself as a desktop browser by user agent string to make a site load a "desktop experience" In no way is editing your user agent string against any kind of law!
The user agent string is really about the only way tmobile could detect tethering other than having a rigged tethering app, like it sounds like the android platform has. There is no kind of special flag set on TCP/IP packets that signify that they came from the phone or a tethered laptop, tablet, etc!
it is not against the law for t-mobile to packet sniff what goes on on their network. when you sign up for service, you agree to their terms........
I could be way off but I don't think there plan is to charge for just using tethering. The data cap on the current plans are 5gbs and after that you are slowed to edge speeds. I think with the tethering plan it is for a much higher if not unlimited data cap.
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I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony
t-mobile tethering
It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "
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It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "
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+1 Good job, I'm impressed! BTW, here's a rock solid UA from Opera Mobile 10, but you get mobile pages where applicable.
"Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50433; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00"
ncohafmuta said:
I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony
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have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.
Thanks subtle1 and joeray! Worked for my wife's on Nokia Nuron- Is our only internet connection so you saved our bacon... Did not get cut off from my HD2 yet...
looks bad.. will keep following this thread
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have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.
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nope. haven't been able to get any wifi router stuff to work in the last couple rom revisions.
remember, i'm on custom Energy rom, not tmobile official.
-Tony
Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.
crisisinthecity said:
Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.
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Works for me, too, and I'm using a custom Rom.
Same here...been tethering for the last 20 minutes no problem. WiFi and USB both work.
Mine works..built in internet sharing app, energy rom.
Tom Codon wifi router cab is the "Ticket"
Tom Codon wifi router cab seems to be the working app, and not the HTC Wifi Router App for WinMo. They may have block used of HTC's app. What do you guys think?
There is a company in my country called Movistar. They currently have this prepaid plan, which costs only the equivalent of $15 per month... contract free. It includes:
500 minutes to any company.
100 SMS to any company.
Unlimited minutes to any Movistar phone.
Unlimited SMS to any Movistar phone.
Unlimited access to these apps: Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and Email.
250MB of data.
Now... As you can see, the plan is pretty good for the price, except the lame amount of data.
But... The Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and Email are unlimited, without interruptions.
Is there a way to use that as my advantage and redirect the browser or something to use the data of those apps so I won't be limited to just 250MB? Is there a way to use a browser inside Facebook somehow?
Thanks.
No.
I'm pretty sure their DNS servers log the IP addresses for those sites and allow unthrottled access to those IPs. They all have more than one IP address per site, and they change so first you'd have to find that out. Then you have to find a way to first direct your traffic to facebooks and the other sites then route it to the site you really want to goto, then rout it back to you all through a VPN most likely so your site request actually comes back to you instead of getting denied.. In short, it would be complicated and illegal as hell and I don't think you will find an answer here without the thread getting locked. I don't think its possible even with the use of IP spoofing. These are all just somewhat educated guesses.
Do you guys think it would help if I root my phone and use a public DNS, like Google DNS or OpenDNS?
Funny thing is, that after I finish the 250MB, I still have access to Google and I can search and everything, but when I try to open a search result, it redirects to me to the website of my carrier (as it should happen).
But, with Chrome Beta, if I activate the bandwidth reduction function, I can get unlimited browsing.
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Funny thing is, that after I finish the 250MB, I still have access to Google and I can search and everything, but when I try to open a search result, it redirects to me to the website of my carrier (as it should happen).
But, with Chrome Beta, if I activate the bandwidth reduction function, I can get unlimited browsing.
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But I'm betting that you will be billed for it. Regardless of being on a prepaid plan.
For example you have a 250MB cap. You can use up to that for the price you pay...however they will just charge you per MB/GB you use above your allotted plan amount.
So next month when you go to pay your $15...they might say you went over last month on your data and this month you're paying $ XX.
In essence they want you to go over and you'll pay dearly for it.
I have a friend who goes over his data amount all the time...last month was $125 in over usage on data.
I'd call them and find out what their protocol is on over usage before you get dinged.
Better to be proactive than reactive :good: