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Great Minds, Please Help Overcome Prophets CID Lock!

First of all THANK YOU all of the Great Minds of XDA Developers for all the support and great work you do for us!
a lot of your work, support and software and advice has been priceless help!
Any way no ass kissing here, just wanted to say thank you. ...and ask for help. As you probably know, there has been a lot of problems and issues with Prophet. (and very little or NO support and from manufacture and from providers. and there is not much available from xda developers forum users on this device. Though there has been great amount of support on any other devices. which has made me a happy user of Magician. But to cut it short, PLEASE HELPPPPPPP with Prophet!!! I can't reflash my XDA Neo with new WWE rom due to CID (vendor ID) error! It comes with german rom and I don't read german but love the phone! (and stuck with 2 year contract!) I tried aWisard utility numerus times in hopes that it would work despite the design for different device. I tried all kinds of roms available out there with no luck. and ofcourse HTC or O2 wouldn't help in any way! (different O2 support
techs said to me that I couldn't flash my Magician with WWE rom becouse it would kill the device! And I had it flashed in all the possible languages!) Any way, my magician is now a history (sold) and my new prophet is great pain in a ass!
Do you guys think you could help all of the xda community (and unlucky suckers) out here and help us overcome CID error so we can update/change our roms? (and screw the HTC, Qtek, Imate and O2 for such a poor support!)
I would greatly appreciate it! and it goes from all of us!

First Cooked ROM from Midget_1990 on Saturday!!

OK friends, before you start asking about exact times, I don't know and neither does Midget.
ltxda and myself have been in touch with the rest of the team and our ROM developer Midget.
We could have had a 90% complete ROM uploaded sometime tonight, just to see the extent of the ROM under development, but we advised against this as after all the wait we believe our donators in particular and the rest of the Athena community would rather have a 100% complete ROM worth flashing over our existing ones.
So there it is people. Saturday some time unspecified, we get our first completed cooked ROM form Midget. Don't expect it to be the final ROM though, as some will undoubtedly find something that needs tweaking or added to the base ROM, but given the time Midget has spent on it thus far, we can hope for a pretty stable and fast ROM as I know he spent a lot of time twaeking it.
Happy flashing this weekend.

Any chance of a manifest?

copperwave said:
Any chance of a manifest?
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Probably not, as it's so close to release, but no doubt one will be put together after the initial ROM reaches Final ROM status.

anxiously waiting
I cant wait anxiously waiting

Call it the "Disadvantaged" Rom !!!!!!!
Then we know it is for us peeps who didnt get the official update
Irrespective of the name I cant wait though, better start charging the batteries and take out the memory card so long ....
This actually give us enough time to do backups as well !
Thanks Cant wait

what about the ext-rom? is the problem fixed? is it unhide & unlock? is ther a way to be?
Special tnx Midget! Can't w8 longer.
Cheers, Hirad

today is saturday and still no rom!

yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!

rhedgehog said:
yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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C'mon, tiger! Get your claws back in!

My Bad...Sorry next Saturday 1st September.
Sorry friends I made a mistake. I got in touch with Midget today to check on the progress, to find he's still away from a PC until early next week when he could upload the 90% ROM we told him to hold off from as Saturday would be the day for the Complete 100% ROM.
Stupid me assumed it was this Saturday. I re-checked my txt messages from Midget and indeed he did say 'back early next week and can upload 90% ROM then and complete ROM by Saturday'.
Sorry all, my excitement must have got the better of me.

cool man it's ok we can wait!
Anyway currently for the cooked ROM what's the advantages/disavantages or any items included/excluded? New to this kinda stuff just hope my questions do not seem dumb.

hey guys! cool down! i'm really sorry for that kinda posting! 2 proud of myself... u know? sorry now i really apreciate this situation and this hard working from both of our heroes(Oli & Midget)! and mackaby007 it's not your fault we are all excited to see the first cooked rom for our devices! have nothing to add on this! 2 sorry man.
Cheers, Hirad

what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?

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what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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More like bricks & toast, if you don't know what you're doing!

I think we all just need to calm down and wait patiently for the ROM. Midget did wonders on the Universal, and now we will get the same great ROM style on the Athena - so we wait....
It's not as if we dont have an interim WM6 we cant use? If you're really desperate then bung on the one that's been available for a few months and then do it again when Midget's is ready - otherwise just stop bugging the poor guy!!

Let's prepare for the forthcoming ROMs.
Hi all. I don't know all the details, but I know this much;
Midget has been working on the Dopod u1000 version ROM, but has changed to be a default European ROM (last I spoke to him) and has made optimized it for speed and reliability, getting rid of unnecessary ****e etc.
He was already very close to completion a few weeks back before his PC died on him. So he had to put most of the ROM back together from memory alone, plus the usual setbacks of life.
Expect a new thread for the new 'Cooked ROM' when it arrives. It will be tweaked with some apps included that should be standard in all ROMs.
For those who are new to ROMs and cooked ROMs, look at it like a software container for the Operating system and specially chosen 3rd party apps etc. Once you flash any ROM with a different one, you completely loose all your previous data, except what you have on the MicroDrive (MD).
Now is a good time to get all your favourite .cab files and exe's (for which you need to use Active sync to install them) ready, as you can't use back-ups from apps like Spb Backup or sprite, to restore your old backups onto a new ROM. Well you can, but you'll have lots of corrupted software and may be putting back what was thoughtfully removed from the cooked ROM.
So a cooked ROM is something made up by an individual to replace the default ROM you get from the seller/manufacturer of the device (all THEIR customized crap).
A base ROM is like the absolute essential parts only, i.e. the WM6 ROM and those apps needed to retain the original functionality of the device as when you bought it....like a stripped down version. Then the developer adds what he thinks will make a fast and stable ROM. In this instance the developer Midget_1990 is doing this for the Athena Project, which was formed and funded by many members of Xda developers and some others from other forums and parts of the world, as this is not the common device for most PPC owners to have and we needed help in getting it unlocked (SIM free and capable of having any HTC Athena ROM being flashed to it, without bricking it).
Olipro (Developer 1 and top notch low-level programmer) has already fulfilled his obligation to the project, by developing and releasing the unlocking tools for the Athena and also made our devices virtually unbrickable due to his clever method of Hard SPL patching the Athena. Thanks Olipro.
Midget_1990 (Dev 2, VGA ROM Cooker) is to use his specialist knowledge of the VGA Universal (he's made some great ROMs!) to make an VGA WM6 based cooked ROM which will enhance and improve the basic functionality of the box-standard WM5 Athenas we originally bought. This is somewhat more time consuming, especially as 'WE' the project contributors and community here, have rather varied requests in what we would like to have in this first ROM. So finding the balance of what works best and doing the actual work and in some cases conversions (i.e. TrueVGA compatibility) is what Midget is up against.
As an incentive both developers were given an Athena each for themselves with an understanding between them and the contributors, that this 2 fold objective could be realized.
We're more than half way there with Olipro's Athena Unlocker and we'll soon have completed our objectives once Midget has released the first Cooked ROM...soon amigos.
So....let's be patient just a little longer and continue to play nice, after all, we will still need Midget to support this or future ROMs for the Athena if it still needs tweaking or amending e.g. Athena Project ROM v0.1 or 1.0, if you follow my drift.
Also it was clearly stated that the devs not be hassled or pressured by anyone, but that has already happened...let's hope no more.
Don't get me wrong friends, if any one is unduly rude or derogative towards you, you have every right to retaliate...only it's not in any ones best interest to argue on these types of forums.
Word to the wise; when this or any other developer releases a ROM in the future, we'd do well to read up well, before asking questions that may have been asked dozens of times before and try to point out what does not work with the ROM and why, if you know, or positive suggestions and feedback.
This is my last long post regarding this project. LoL yeah, thank God!! everyone cheers. ROFL. Seriously though, it's been a bit of a struggle but mostly rewarding and made some really cool new buddies on this forum.
Thanks to all of you in the Athena community and beyond, but most of all a big thanks should go to the financial contributors, without whom this project may never have taken off as soon as it did or even at all.
No more to say.
See you around in the forums.
P.S. If you have something negative to say, please PM who you are not happy with and let's keep this forum as a civilized developers forum for all interested parties.
And one more thing, if I may humbly ask all non-new members or visitors to NOT abuse newbies as they are by no means fools just because they are new to this and deserve our respect.
As others have mentioned before, if someone posts a stupid question or something that has been asked a thousand times, simply point them to the wiki or give them the right keywords to put in the search engine as the wiki is still under development.
Peace & Unity

well said. you should be a moderator mate.

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well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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agreed.

wOw mackaby007! TrueVGA compatibility??? is it possible? i can't w8 for! i really suggest high rank admins to make u and some others the admins of athena! hope to see u soon! (not u mackaby007! i'm with our little nutty,sweet, cooked ROM!!!)

Mackaby007 -> Very well said. Thank you.

Shift Project?

Hello all. The same people that opened up the Athena device, worked out numerous unlockers for many many devices and are now working on the newly released Polaris device are offering up our team and skills. Only problem is we have no devices to develop on. What we did on the Athena project was raise enough money from donations for 4 devices. There was an overwhelming response and the results were a fully unlocked device and customized ROMs. We also took it a step further and made things possible that were not in the original release of the device. If you guys are interested we can start-up a similar project. Up to you guys, the community.
Of course it's not necessary to start up such a project. I'm sure a developer will eventually purchase a device and do something with it. Time will tell.
Goals of proposed project:
- Unlock device
- Expand WM6 capabilities
- Remove as many limitations on device as possible
- IF possible, add phone and GPS capabilities
- Cooked ROMs

Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !

seems that Expand WM6 capabailities are OK now YESSSSSSSS

pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.

koala996 said:
Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !
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Thanks for your response.
That's basically how we all did it on the Athena Project. Established a few goals, outlined the details then kicked some butt.
The Athena, being the monster she is...now runs more stable, faster and has the latest and greatest. You guys might want to look over at the Athena forum to see how the project did. We started at v1.0. Everyone loved it. Went on to 2.0 and 3.0. Now we're working on 4.0 which is going to be a nice surprise for everyone.
We'll see if anyone else is interested. For now I'm more than happy with my Athena but if people want to move forward we can get things going. Just want to know if it's something that's wanted.
Shift is a nice toy but damn HTC for what they did to the WM side. I have no idea what they were thinking here.

nemeth said:
pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.
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I wish I could just give you the how-to but it's not that simple. HTC did some pretty nasty things within this wonderful device and it'll take some serious hacking around and time to get things unlocked then working. We're not sure what the extent is, yet, to the full capabilities but if the community wants to move forward with the project, we can setup a PayPal account to start the donations and essentially repeat the enormous success accomplished under the Athena project.
Like I said, IF it's even possible...our team can get it done. Just another toy that needs to be shaped into a work of art

O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.

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O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.
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Ok, that's two yes answers. Let's see what others have to say. Be back later, stepping out.

personally i think the shift is just begging to be hacked! i'm part of the athena project and would help in shift project too.
now that it's revealed how to access \Windows and file explorer, the next step will be creating a virtual USB connection to the vista side (this is possible!), then you can use activesync and can flash roms too, and we (with Olipro) can make hard-SPL and even simunlocker if there is a simlocked version of the shift.
the WM side of course needs a properly cooked rom, put the functionality and apps back and customizations. and of course we need to enable lots of hardware, i'm sure at least part of that can be managed (from SD and wifi to phone and GPS).
i can't wait to start hacking on this but first a device is needed.

im all for it as well

Count me in

I am in, let's do it!

nice. i'll happily cook everyone a good custom for for the shift like i did for the athena. watch the athena space for the 4.0 release. u'll definalty want that on ur shift.
from what i seen in the test roms, gps and phone shouldnt be too hard to get back. wifi just might be a bit harder. the antenna and all seem to be there as the test roms have a gps tool

Yes!
Yes, do it, cook the little bugger!

tell us where to donate for the shift project and i will
cheers, steve

tell us where to donate for the shift project
Big donate For italian lenguage!!!!

count me in financially ...

So far all positive feedback but there are hundreds of more users on this forum so we really need to hear back from the community.
We'll be finalizing Athena Project 4.0 soon so the timing is perfect.
The immediate core team members will be:
ltxda (myself of course)
Olipro
Cmonex
PK
Other members will be recruited as the need arises. We would also need two existing forum members with experience and good testing skills for when the ROM is beta quality to help test and work out any kinks.

Ok, i'm in. I can't help financially until i've paid off my Shift, but I'm up for any testing that needs doing.
Edit - I just donated.

Shift Project now accepting donations...
I setup a link on my signature for the Shift Project.
Remember, we're going to need the entire community to pitch in here to make this as successful as the Athena Project.
If we end up without the necessary donations we will just refund the money from the project. I hope that doesn't happen...never had to do a mass refund before...I wonder how long that would take. LOL
The good thing about this forum it's based on users like me...those that like the high end toys and don't mind playing a bit ;-)

Thank You to Everyone

Hey everyone,
I wanted to taket the time and say a quick thank you to everyone that has taken time out of thier schedules to try cook roms, tweak registries, and build cabs to share with the community. Being a college student I can tell you that there are numerous times that I wanted to throw my device out of the window due to issues that I did not understand. I have always been fairly tech savy but I am new to the PPC WM world. I have always been able to visit this site for help, and to find whatever else I needed to unlock the full potential of my device. Even though I cannot donate to everone, I just wanted to let you know that your hours of hardword and frustration are very much appreciated by myself, all of the other members, and the thousands of un-named that visit the site on a day to day visit. Just remember this when you feel that you are not getting the recognization that you deserve. There are thousands of people out there that you help on a day to day basis. Keep up the good work and always remember that you are appreciated.
P.S. I was not sure wher eto post this but feel free to move it to whatever forum you feel would best suite it's needs.

I wish to do the same, just can't find enough word to show my appreciation. That is why I'm going to say one simple and huge: THANK YOU!

I too would like to thank all of the developers here. I can tell you I was about to buy a new phone when I happened across this site and brought my Blue angel into 2008 with all the wonderful ROMs and software found here. Thank you all no matter how big or small your contribution has been it has been appreciated. As I am not a coder all I can offer is support, which I try to do as regularly as possible here. To everyone keep up the great work.

I too would have to add to this. If it wasn't for this site and its hard working developers I wouldn't realize the full potential of my cell-y.
The only way I can contribute to this site is by donating to these talented and hard working developers so that they may continue to create some of the most usable/innovative programs only to ask for donations in return.
Much Appreciated to all....

Huge THANK YOU to all the cookers and developers indeed!

Without this site and all the people here my life would be shallow and meaningless misery...Well, not exactly, but thank you anyway!

Thank you!

Take care of the chefs / contributors

Dear All,
I have seen this in the about xda forum. But it appears that most of the Gene users don't read any other thread apart from the Gene upgarding etc. forum.
You might want to read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539407.
Its high time you take care of your chefs, trust me if you don't, the only one to lose will be you not the chef(s).
I can tell two instances:
1. krazy had a really bad personal problem (his accomodation), but most did not read it or did not care to worry about it, instead continued their demands.
2. ankit360 has not recieved a single donation till date! can you believe it.
I do not say that donating is mandatory, but c'mon guys, you are getting so many great stuffs from the chefs / geeks in this forum.
To be blunt with you, where is the gratitude????
[And if you say you can't afford, c'mon - you are not using a Nokia 1110i, you are using a 10K mobile]
Sorry if I sound rude.

Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum

ANKIT AND SUMIT deserves it!!

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Dear Addicted, i really feel for you man in my heart. You think so much about us, and this forum and its members in general. I am glad we have you in this forum
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And I am lucky to have you .
Otherwise I would have sold my Gene and gone to some other forum (HTC of course).
@deathgame:
And so does each and every fab members of this forum, always remember:
1. Ramersonw first got us hooked to cooking and created the method for determining old / new Gene.
2. vaibhav created an automatic gene verifier (poor guy, doesn't even get thank you's !!!).
3. BesFen: Made cooking a walk in the park.
4. Zelalat: He was the one who ported a M2D ROM for new Gene (If I am not wrong). Lomlom was the cooker of the original.
[WOW MY HISTORY IS GOOD ]
And of course guys like you, karan and all the cooks, who has kept this forum one of the most happening device forum around.
Hope users start appreciating your efforts rather than demanding .

We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card

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We should definitely take care of our chefs and one more thing we should also take care of olipro & orefkov bcs its because of them all the fun we are having nowadays.....Sumit, Ankit, Ramersonv, Basha, Lomlom, A2X, Nirvana, Bepe....(Sorry if i forgot someone) they all have done a remarkable job in GENE section....
BTW 1 day while chatting with Sumit I offered him technical support for his Pc/ Lappy as i m a hardware eng.
I m gonna donate Sumit N Ankit and wish to donate to olipro too but unfortunately i don hv a credit card
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Thtat's really great (but I honestly don't think that I should be mentioned with the pple you have named).
I also wanted to donate to ramersonw and to be frank, before every one to xda, but I also don't have a credit card.
I would request all pple who care about this forum to bump up this thread once in a while. As you can see, I do not have my TD yet (and hence visiting this forum regularly), but once I got it, my visits will ultimately be next to nil.
Thank you,
You folks are really fabulous, and that include YOU!
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To be blunt, do you notice how many pple feel like us (even in the original thread).
BTW @everyone, you do not need to donate to show your appreciation. A praise, being less demanding is good enough (perhaps). Understand that these guys have a personal and professional life and they honestly don't OWE US ANYTHING. They are sharing their knowledge and creations with us because they are generous enough to do so. So appreciate it and ACKNOWLEDGE it.

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i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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ankit360 said:
vaibhav_batra_the_techguy said:
i m realy thanks Ramersonv who create first kitchen for new gene BTW where is Ramersonv nowadays ? I really wish to donate money to some ppl but don't have much money. if anybody reference any job for system administration in mumbai let me know its help me a lot rather then donating money .
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Hey buddy, please please please send your cv to haree. He is right now running a placement agency. And since he was in Gene once, I KNOW he appreciates your contribution.
. Do let me know whether you contacted him or not.
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I'm still here (with a less contribution, I know.). Almost every day I see the forum and sometimes post something(all PMs that I receive I respond soon or later). Since the beginning of the year I have made many trips (to work) and have little time at home (my wife hates it.) to cook and try new things. Yet I'm still here in the forum.

BTW there should be THANK YOU button

@All the chefs
Folks, have you checked this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557152