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Wi-Fi! what is it? what can i use it for?

i am abit of a noob, what can i use wi-fi for?

basically its wireless LAN, wireless local area network, ie be able to connect to a computer network wirelessly to surf the internet, get emails, file transfer ans in some cases perform synchronisations.... beats the wired connections but can be a pain at times connecting to some wireless routers (access points) and even more of a pain to fix when there is a fault
At present there are 2 standards allowing fast ans faster transfer of data, b and g respectively. Some devices like the vario only supports the b (slower and older standard) whilst the other variants support both standards, as such yuo may have seen posts where people have deliberately changed ROMS (the software that operates the device) just to be able to connect to a 'g' network
Hope that helps
jim

when i have wi-fi switch on do i pay anything?

sometimes you have to pay for it, but at most of the places its free. And it is not a GSM based service
thanks

It's free at home; I never saw the need on a phone till got a wi-fi connector. Now I listen to MP3s surf the net everything (super-fast and free). Definately worth it

new to wifi - quick question

sorry for the newb questions but couldn't find an answer searching and figured someone who knows would be able to give an answer easily
the question is, when in the office, sitting near my laptop (dell lat 620 w wifi) I connect my phone to the wifi network 'wfield1' and the display on the laptop turns green, and the phone shows the little antenna signifying wifi connectivity. ok- now does this mean
a) that all data sent/rec'd will not appear on cingulars bill?
b) will my works firewall (vpn) infringe upon my browsing (ie if I hit a blocked site will it say blocked on my phone?)
I originally thought it would but I turned wifi on and walked away from my laptop and realized that the wifi connection stayed on throughout the building so therefore it has nothing to do with my laptops connection to our vpn server then right?
if so, c) would I be able to use the phones wifi connection and then usb tether the phone to the laptop to browse on the laptop off the firewall and off cingulars rate charges? I have unlim anyway but keeping usage down seems worth the small step it takes to tether
hopefully I am at least a little accurate in my guesses and not way off wack. if anyone could drop some knowledge on me id appreciate it

Your phone's connection to WIFI has nothing to do with your laptop. It should connect to your WIFI router in your office. Your phone should display a different symbol on the top line of the LCD, rather than your regular "antenna" symbol.
You need to check the above before you can confirm if you are actually connected to your WIFI router.

When you are on WIFI, it is subjected to the same firewall regulations as your laptop

yes it changes from the normal "phone" antenna to the wifi icon, i do know that much.
however i'm still unsure of whether or not it is using routered data vs cingular data. i think it is using the wifi data because as i said it is showing the wifi symbol and not the E or G that shows up when connected to cingulars service
and i think i mispoke, i dont actually use the wifi on the laptop to connect to the internet. i need to dial up with a verizon card, and it connects that way, and also launches a VPN which i think is what regulates the internet usage.
i am less worried about the routers firewall than i am my (proxy?) servers abilty to record sights that i visit, ie the forums/ebay. if i visit those on wifi and my server could see that (not worried about the wifi router seeing it since i am in different offices a lot), i will just stick with using GPRS/EDGE. confusing? sorry

If it was using Cingular data, you would get a message that your phone is 'Connecting to Cingular GPRS' ..in which case you would be billed, you don't get billed for using wifi because you are NOT using cingulars network to connect to the internet, you are using your own.

after checking it again, it seems that i cannot get to the iinternet with the wifi alone. i turned off the phone and had wifi enabled and could not connet to the internet.
so normally, if it wasn't a work firewalled network, wifi will let you get to the internet without being charged via cingular. got it, thanks all

hey i was going to do wifi connection to my work laptop too till i decided its pointless cause im sitting right in front of the thing and if i actually walked away from it its going to be a decent distance and the wifi wouldnt connect anyway.
besides theres not a whole lot you can do with the connection other than read a web page or browse a network folder.

Wing and usb modem

I was wondering if anyone has used usb modem to tether on tmobile and have their unlimited email/internet if you tethered and they don't charge you extra if you use it. can they detect the tethering?

no they cant

i've used internet sharing (that is on the stock ROM) when the internet was cut off in my dorm during mid terms and everyone had papers due (morons). worked fine, no extra charges either. i also have a program that will turn your phone into a wireless router. that works nicely too

I use it all the time! In fact im usin it right now! Hey how do you turn your phone into a wifi router??? id like to know! Thanks !!

http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
20 Euros to buy, i don't know when the trial expires, i've only used it a few times.

SGS - internet connecting pc problems

Hi,
I live in Australia. I bought a SGS from UK. It has nothing changed in firmware its the same as it comes from the box. (just a few games and apps installed from the android market).
My problem is when I connect the SGS to my laptop through the USB cable and I chose "PC INTERNET" I get a connection but i get a lot of drop outs, I would say being honestly every 5 minutes my connection drops. I live right in the city and my phone has good reception so its not the reception.
I haven't tried teethering (i dont wanna teether coz mobile plans says, NO teethering).
What can I do to fix the drop out connection problem.

if you are using your internet via the LAPTOP over the USB cable, then you need to figure out WHY your LAPTOP is not connecting properly to the Internet.

it takes about 1 min to connect and when it connects i choose HOME connetion. than it works good for 5 mins and it drops out and reconnects itself.

Correct me if I've read your post incorrectly but isn't what you're doing tethering?
From Wikipedia: "Tethering is the use of a mobile device such as a mobile phone to supply Internet access for another device which is otherwise unconnected, using the mobile device as a modem. This can be done through Bluetooth wireless technology, Portable Wi-Fi hotspots, or cables (such as USB)."

well yes and no...
it is teethering but carriers cant prove that.
however
if i do select teether on my phone it says something like this option will use black hole date or something (from my understanding is that it will use different data to my free date) so i choose to try the cable connect than select interent connection.
anyways the problem is still there... has anyone got any solutions or give me some ideas?
thanks

are you trying to use your phone as a modem or not?
if you are, then we can help you there are many ways to do it.
but if you are doing the opposite, using your laptop internet, for your phone to access internet (which doesn't make any sense at all) then we can't help you as it's a laptop problem.

im trying to use my phone as a modem but in a way without carriers finding out im actually using my phone to teether.
my problem is that my connection keeps droping every 5 minutes for 10-30sec.

I use my Galaxy as a modem and I had nothing but hassle when connecting using the cable. I found out its far better to go into settings then wireless settings then switch mobile AP on. Your phone sends the connection over wifi to the pc and gives me no hassle at all.
I reckon the only way your service provider would know is by looking at how much data you use so just be careful and you should be fine. Or find out what your monthly limit is and put a data counter on the phone, I use Netcounter, its free and simple but gives the info you need like daily, weekly and monthly usage

yup, the wireless method is by far the easiest one, and best of all it is build in!
as for your cell phone provider finding out, regardless of what you do, they don't care, they only check how much data you used up, and charge you that amount

well im on 1gb per month. Plenty of data there.
I tried another method today: turn bluetooth on and connect through bluetooth and that seem to works perfectly. I was online for 3 hours without dropping once.
Now I`m wondering why was it dropping with the cable connected? And not even once through bluetooth!

I understand your Problem, but at time i reading your last Post i have an question.
I understand your Posts that you dont use Wireless thether becouse your Carrier dont Allow Laptops to Acces Wireless conections right?
But it makes no difference if you use the cable or a wireless conection to thether your Internet. If you surf under the radar you dont getting into troubles. And there is no blackhole Data when you tether wireless. Its a gprs, edeg, 3g or umts Connection and your Phone manage this automaticly. So now comes my question. Why you dont use the build in wireless tether function which is the fastest and easiest way to connect. You dont need the phone directly near the laptop, you can give it to the point of best data connection, okay and a powerstrip for the akku. But its much faster then the Bluetooth connection, becouse of wlan.
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"And there is no blackhole Data when you teether wireless"
From now on I will use the AP to connect. I thought the carriers (OPTUS) might find out. But since they can't find out than this is the best option. Thanks for confirming they cant find out weather I connected my laptop or just used the date from my phone.

This remind my at the old days where you share your internet connection thru a soho rooter or just another pc with 2 network cards built in. In these early days the Provider says its forbidden to use the connection for more pcs than one. But in fact they never could meassure this and no one ever gets an letter from them or an contract decline/service interuption. The truth is, that there was a kind of law process against them and now the isp's is forbidden to limit the usage of your internet connection to only one device. So that means not that you get unlimited numbers of ip adresses, but you can NAT as much devices you want. Now you get from every ISP a Preconfigured router if you like.
And the same will hapen over a pariod of time to the wireless providers as well. Its your connection so you can use them the way u like it. Its already happend here, you can buy umts router for your home.
Where i live there is no question like this. Just do it. But maybe its becouse of our mentalogiy. If somone says no the typical austrian will do it anyway and gives no dime to what others say. If no one forbid you something then its allready allowed to do. ;-)
Greetings to Australia (the country with the kangaroos) like we here in Austria say. lol
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Thanks for that info. That takes my concerns/stress away. Just didn't wanna receive a thousand dollar bill that's all I cared

Help with setting up a Android Phone as hotspot for home internet with Three UK

Hi,
My sister lives in the countryside where broadband ADSL speeds are lucky to reach 0.5Mb.
However whilst i was visiting I tested my Nexus 5 data speeds and got around 7Mb download using my 3G connection through my Three SIM (on The One Plan).
I was thinking they could purchase a SIM only contract for the One Plan (that includes tethering and unlimited data) and use that in a MIFI dongle. However doing a bit of searching it seems that Three will not allow the SIM to be used in a MIFI unit.
So that got me thinking.
I am now considering getting them a cheap Android handset with a One Plan sim installed, and use that phone as their source for internet connection at home.
Anyone else tried this?
How would you set it up for the best?
PHONE > COMPUTER / DEVICES (I would of thought that the phone wouldnt send out the best wifi signal around the house)
or
PHONE > ROUTER > COMPUTER / DEVICES ( I thought this would give a better wifi network signal around the house)
Anyone with some help / thoughts?

using router is better
opencube said:
Hi,
My sister lives in the countryside where broadband ADSL speeds are lucky to reach 0.5Mb.
However whilst i was visiting I tested my Nexus 5 data speeds and got around 7Mb download using my 3G connection through my Three SIM (on The One Plan).
I was thinking they could purchase a SIM only contract for the One Plan (that includes tethering and unlimited data) and use that in a MIFI dongle. However doing a bit of searching it seems that Three will not allow the SIM to be used in a MIFI unit.
So that got me thinking.
I am now considering getting them a cheap Android handset with a One Plan sim installed, and use that phone as their source for internet connection at home.
Anyone else tried this?
How would you set it up for the best?
PHONE > COMPUTER / DEVICES (I would of thought that the phone wouldnt send out the best wifi signal around the house)
or
PHONE > ROUTER > COMPUTER / DEVICES ( I thought this would give a better wifi network signal around the house)
Anyone with some help / thoughts?
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a portable hotspot will not give them best speeds,using a router is a better option and it will give much better speed.
Hope it helps you! gudluck!
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I USB tether my phone to an old box that runs as a router. Works very well. Be warned though, that Three throttle tethered connections if the data use is high: and 'high' to them seems to be a trivial amount of data. I need to do some experimenting to find out how it knows it's throttled (packet inspection or AP settings) though.