Sorry but I am newbie around here,
I have tried to run some programs a recently downloaded on my HERMES but when I try to run those programs, they indicate that my Microsoft net version so older that I need a newer one.
I have WM5 on my device
A) Where can I get a newer version? Is it free?
B) Can I keep my WM5 version but updating my Microsoft net version?
C) What is the purpose of this application?
I think you are talking about the microsoft dotnet framework(called compact framework on WM).
If so, you can download and install it free from microsoft. Do a google search for 'Compact Framework 2.0 Redestributable' and follow the microsoft link to download it on your pc(on which you do active sync). After download run the install on your pc. Next time when you active sync the compact framework will be updated to your pda.
If you are still could not find the download... go to one of the software I published(check my signature) and in the first post of any of my software I have a link to 'Compact Framework' download.
HTH
Edit: forgot your questions B and C
B: It does not affect your WM version(Yes to your question)
C: It makes your PDA run the applications built with .net technology. Most of the 'new applications' built now a days are .net. So no harm in updating to compact framework.
Nice !!!!!
I did it as you said and it's ok!!!!!!
Thanks..
i dont think most new apps are in .net as it still got some performance issues on pda's imho
Rudegar said:
i dont think most new apps are in .net as it still got some performance issues on pda's imho
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Yes I do agree with you Rudegar.
But I do not treat that as an issue, since the dotnet architecture built such a way that the 'Things gets initialized as they are accessed' and the the 'Objects gets distroyed based on framework's assessment as to when to dispose things'. I think because of these behavior sometimes we see it as 'peforming bad'.
But one thing is sure that the dotnet did(or WILL) not replace the older native way of doing things(It's still long way to achieve it). Even a simple today pluggin is impossible with pure dotnet.
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I need to camera API of imate to develop some applications.
Does anyone know where to get it?
and any ways to import camera.dll?
thanks!!
Camera API
You're not the only one trying to get hold of the camera API for this device, I think there are quite a few of us that are trying. I sent an e-mail off today to HTC and to O2, to see if I could get a response.
I believe Microsoft are also now aware of this problem. The last I heard was that HTC have a problem with the camera API and that they had e-mailed a copy of this to someone back in May, but it didn't work.
I am hoping that they will e-mail me the latest stuff... we shall see... If I manage to get hold of it I will be posting it EVERYWHERE... Including on here and on my website:
www.ip-ms.co.uk
Let me know if you have any success!
you can disassemble camera.dll to determine IOCTLs that are used to communicate with it (a CAM1: device). Or decompile HTCCamera.dll, it exports some interesting functions like "Camera_GetPreviewImage".
You may try to contact www.iastyle.com, as far as I see they have developed camera application for Imate.
The other idea is to take .NET CF camera class and to try to use it in Imate. Or to download camera SDK from HP hoping that ti is compatible with imate. You may convert all references to SDIOCam.dll to HTCCamera.dll.
Look at http://www.bistia.com/en/prod-faq.html#cam
O2 ActiveSync, Development & deployment with VS2003
O2 have been of very little help. They do have an SDK from HTC however they are not allowed to release it as they are under an NDA.
I guess we will have to continue with the quest of hacking into the dll's and getting in that way.
On a slightly different note, can someone help me out with a deployment problem with my XDA 2.
I am running VS.Net 2003, with SQL Server CE 2.0 & SP3 and SQL Server 2000 SP3, Active sync 3.7.1 and PPC 2003 ROM verson 1.03.00 USA
The device connects to active sync but I can't deploy to the PDA in VS.Net It works in emulation. I can't just copy the cab files coz I need the SQL CE management tools to be deployed with the application as it is the first time of deploying a SQL CE app to the device.
I have tried removing proxyport reg file and re-placing it... I have uninstalled VS.Net, Active sync and everything else and re installed it. I have even done a complete new install on a totally clean pc following the MS guidlines on the order of installation. Still no joy!
What more can I do? I have also tried installing with IRdA as well... this didn't work either but i could still active sync with it.
Help is definately required on this one guys!
Many thanks
Sarah
Re: O2 ActiveSync, Development & deployment with VS2003
the only thing that you have not tried is upgrading your ROM. Try it, but backup it first.
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
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SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
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mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
Hi all,
does anyone know if there is trick to install Microsoft Visual Basic runtime in my Universal (JasJar) ?
Thanks
nicoska
There is no VB Runtime for Windows Mobile. The closest you can do is installing The .NET Compact Framework, but you will not be able to run VB Scripts or VB applications on a Windows Mobile device. At least not now anyway.
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There is no VB Runtime for Windows Mobile. The closest you can do is installing The .NET Compact Framework, but you will not be able to run VB Scripts or VB applications on a Windows Mobile device. At least not now anyway.
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I've installed this http://www.funambol.com/opensource/downloads.html
Is a SyncML client for PocketPC and when i tap on it ask me to install Visual Basic Runtime.
It's possible ?
thanks
nicoska
Interesting. I went there and noticed it is for PPC 2003. I tried installing it (but didn't let it go through)
It did look like it was going to install some VB Runtime for PPC. (It showed up on the screen)
Check your add/remove programs and see if it's in there. If it is, then it probably doesn't work with WM 2005.
Good luck
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Interesting. I went there and noticed it is for PPC 2003. I tried installing it (but didn't let it go through)
It did look like it was going to install some VB Runtime for PPC. (It showed up on the screen)
Check your add/remove programs and see if it's in there. If it is, then it probably doesn't work with WM 2005.
Good luck
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Yes, indeed. This should be a eMbedded VB Runtime, which works with WM 2003.
Visual Studio 2005 should be delivered me in the next days, and for all I read by now this will include a VB environment for WM 2005. Possibly this will be compatible to... oh wait! We're talking about Microsoft, aren't we? So, forget this about compatibility... :roll:
Yeah. I tried to create an app in eMbedded VB and it didn't work out of the box on WM 2005. I have used VS2005 and created a couple apps in VB and they work, but I needed to install the MS CF 2.0 and that was it.
I had assumed that WM 2005 was supposed to have CF 2.0, but mine did not. I also have a Qtek 9100, not a 9000. So the Jasjar's and 9000's may have it already.
thanks a lot.
Please let me know when you get the vb runtime for wm5, so then i can check if sync ml works.
bye
nicoska
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Yeah. I tried to create an app in eMbedded VB and it didn't work out of the box on WM 2005. I have used VS2005 and created a couple apps in VB and they work, but I needed to install the MS CF 2.0 and that was it.
I had assumed that WM 2005 was supposed to have CF 2.0, but mine did not. I also have a Qtek 9100, not a 9000. So the Jasjar's and 9000's may have it already.
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Can you post the app so i can test it ?
bye
nicoska
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Can you post the app so i can test it ?
bye
nicoska
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which app? the VS2005 one? Or the eMbedded VB one?
I actually don't have the eMbedded VB one anymore.
I'll attach this simple one created in VB off of VS2005. It just powers off or resets the device. (It is not signed)
Also if you are just curious about the CF runtime you can run \Windows\cgautil.exe and it will pop up with all the versions of the Framework. Mine only has 1.0 by default. After installing 2.0 it shows both.
I was using a bunch of VB apps on my jamin (prophet) without any problem, and all of a sudden when I try to open them i get; "there is no application associated etc."
Anyone has any clue about that? Can I install (or re-install) visual basic on wm5?
Thanks all
Is there a Countdown Timer application that doesn't use the .NET COmpact Framework?
.NET slows down my desktop, I don't even want to know what it will do to my 8125.
I'm looking for a Countdown app in which I can put in a specific date and it will tell me how many days, hours, minutes seconds I have. A Countdown, pretty much.
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Is there a Countdown Timer application that doesn't use the .NET COmpact Framework?
.NET slows down my desktop, I don't even want to know what it will do to my 8125.
I'm looking for a Countdown app in which I can put in a specific date and it will tell me how many days, hours, minutes seconds I have. A Countdown, pretty much.
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Try this out for size!!! Just take off the .zip and then run!
Nice program, but too bad it needs .NET
Well, .NET is not "slowing down" your computer! .NET is part of your OS since Windows XP, so, without .NET you wouldn't even have a functioning OS. Even Windows Mobile has the NET COMAPCT FRAMEWORK build in since version 5, so, there is no way around it!
You might wanna try out this one - haven't tried it myself, so, I am not sure if it will work properly: http://www.pocketone-soft.com/stopwatch/2003sevga.php
Yeah, maybe your right, but when I run the application, it asks for a newer version of .NET
.NET is not a native part of Windows XP SP2, it is a separate component.
Any software that requires another piece of software to be installed is called bloatware in my book.
The application you posted is a stopwatch, not a countdown timer
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Yeah, maybe your right, but when I run the application, it asks for a newer version of .NET
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Well, looks to me like the programmer of that software did not use the standard COMPACT FRAMEWORK but the latest (either 2.x or a higher BETA) when he compiled the program! Howeever, .NET will not slow you downit is in fact even increasing the speed of a higher OS, such as XP with latest updates and VISTA.
I had to write an article for it in a local pc magazine - I published it later in a programmer forum - you still can read it here: http://www.codingmonkeys.com/index.php?topic=1014.0
You will have to live with the fact that programmers will start more and more with developing .NET application - there is no way around it!
If you really want to find a 'non' .NET application look for older software (PPC 2003) which is out already for a few years. If it is only a countdown timer you're looking for it can't be too hard to find!
Did you ever use Google Desktop or vista search on your PC and would like to have on your portable device? Well, here you are! The RapidSearch application is made as an instant file access module for the Smartphone / Pocket PC. Have a try! Requires .NET Compact Framework 2.0, compatible with: PPC 2003 SE or higher, WM Smartphone 5.0 or higher. Users with systems older than Windows Mobile 6 will probably need to install .NET CF on their devices. And here's the link: http://p800.go.pl/RapidSearchSPInstall.cab
Great idea! Indexing in progress...
Awesome idea! I'll try it out right now!
For some reason the link wouldn't work earlier. Does now and I'm downloading it to test...
no interest ?
It's great! However, neither of the buttons when it is performing a search appear to do anything...
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It's great! However, neither of the buttons when it is performing a search appear to do anything...
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The buttons are not touchable... use softkeys to invoke them (program designed for a smartphone)