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Select input method is really slow ?

Hi all
Hope you all had a great christmas
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
Is there a way to speed this up ?

Takes forever here too. I did use Tweak2k2 to hide some SIPs I never use, plus I have Calligrapher installed.

If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S

Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.

christan said:
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
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Wonder if it's a WM5 thing because I noticed it on my Wizard and now on my Magician II and just assumed that it was due to the 200Mhz processor. If you're seeing in on a Universal then I guess it can't be a processor thing. It is BLOODY annoying as I only ever use Letter Recogniser and very occasionally the Keyboard, but for some reason it keeps defaulting to the keyboard, particularly aftr the (all too frequent in WM5) soft reset.

Morituri said:
Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.
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oh ohh,
I last week I installed MS Voice Command and now I got the shown problem. And after a softreset the PDA didn´t starts with my favorit: keyboard.
Any tips?

Morituri said:
Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.
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Hmmm, as a matter of fact, i do have Voice Command installed ... but I seem to recall seeing this slow SIP selection even before that. Anyway, I have disabled Voice Command and it's still just as slow.
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?

brykins said:
christan said:
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
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Wonder if it's a WM5 thing because I noticed it on my Wizard and now on my Magician II and just assumed that it was due to the 200Mhz processor. If you're seeing in on a Universal then I guess it can't be a processor thing. It is BLOODY annoying as I only ever use Letter Recogniser and very occasionally the Keyboard, but for some reason it keeps defaulting to the keyboard, particularly aftr the (all too frequent in WM5) soft reset.
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Indeed, it is bloody annoying ... I don't see how popping up a menu of available input methods can take that long. It's not like we're asking it to load all the input methods, we just wanna see the list of available methods.
I am also facing the same problem of defaulting to keyboard after a soft reset :roll:

dreamtheater39 said:
If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S
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The thing is, I have not installed or tried out any SIPs other than the ones that came default in the o2 ROM. Can I ask how long does it take for your SIP selection menu to popup ?

christan said:
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?
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No Voice Command installed here and still a very slow SIP menu.....

brykins said:
christan said:
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?
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No Voice Command installed here and still a very slow SIP menu.....
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I guess it's a WM5 issue .... is there anyone here who are NOT experiencing this problem ?

christan said:
dreamtheater39 said:
If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S
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The thing is, I have not installed or tried out any SIPs other than the ones that came default in the o2 ROM. Can I ask how long does it take for your SIP selection menu to popup ?
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I have a qtek 9000 running on the stock rom. My sip opens up almost instantaneously.
Before which, I had the same issue when I was beta testing calligrapher on another device running wm5. It apparently was a problem with one of the beta builds of calligrapher which they claim to have fixed in their final release...however, I've never installed the final release on my universal. So if you have CG installed, try not to install after a hard reset (Last time i had this issue, i had to hard reset...that was the only way out)
San

HELP!! Can't switch SIP on device!

I've posted this before but received no help, so I'm trying it again. I'm trying to install a third-party SIP on my device to replace the default Keyboard, but every time I choose it the device goes right back to Keyboard instead. I can switch to the other default SIP that came with the device, but not to the third-party one.
I have a Cingular 8125 running Molski AKU3.3

K-Fox said:
I've posted this before but received no help, so I'm trying it again. I'm trying to install a third-party SIP on my device to replace the default Keyboard, but every time I choose it the device goes right back to Keyboard instead. I can switch to the other default SIP that came with the device, but not to the third-party one.
I have a Cingular 8125 running Molski AKU3.3
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Try these.... the SIP change program is used to make your SIP choice the default SIP.
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2.25.11.1

hotdog53 said:
Try these.... the SIP change program is used to make your SIP choice the default SIP.
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2.25.11.1
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Thank you for the support!!
I already have PCM Keyboard installed (that's the third-party SIP I'm trying to use) but I didn't have the SIPChange installed before. However, I still can't get it to switch. Even using SIPChange, the default goes back to Keyboard every time. Do I have a registry problem of some sort?

So I found this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other and started playing around with the registry .. and I messed it up. I managed to switch the default SIP, but when I tried a different one my device will not boot up anymore. It's stuck on a white screen and won't go any further. Anyone know how to fix this?
EDIT: Well, I went ahead and wiped off the phone and now I have a fresh ROM on my hands. I lost a lot of info, but I'm happy my phone works again. So after the restore, the SIPChanger worked .. and now all is good.

K-Fox said:
So I found this link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other and started playing around with the registry .. and I messed it up. I managed to switch the default SIP, but when I tried a different one my device will not boot up anymore. It's stuck on a white screen and won't go any further. Anyone know how to fix this?
EDIT: Well, I went ahead and wiped off the phone and now I have a fresh ROM on my hands. I lost a lot of info, but I'm happy my phone works again. So after the restore, the SIPChanger worked .. and now all is good.
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I'm glad it works now, but I forgot to tell you that the SIP change program needed to be copied to windows/start up. See below.
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How to make keyboard change permanent

I replaced the infernal iPhone keyboard with the blessed fingerkeyboard.
But every restart activates the old nasty again and I have to manually switch.
Anyone have a registry hack for this?

Hello,
Search using this....http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all for an app called Sip Change. Install it, set your preferred keyboard and you are good to go.
WB

wacky.banana said:
Hello,
Search using this....http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all for an app called Sip Change. Install it, set your preferred keyboard and you are good to go.
WB
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Thanks for the hint, but I already tried SIP Change and it crashes every time my device (re)boot

Eh? Works absolutely fine on my device.
Take a look at some of the other software or keyboards you have loaded up. The problem may lie there. Also ensure Sip Changer to the phone memory if you can.
WB

Can confirm that the SIP change app works without issues...after a couple of crashes to start with. Try the software got st least a day or two before giving up...

wacky.banana said:
Eh? Works absolutely fine on my device.
Take a look at some of the other software or keyboards you have loaded up. The problem may lie there. Also ensure Sip Changer to the phone memory if you can.
WB
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Yep, the problem was that I had it installed on the Memory Card.
SIP Change needs to go to the Device to work!

Hi all,
Can someone upload the cab please. i have trying to download the file for a number of days now but Rapidshare always says they are too busy for free downloads.
Help please and thanks.

Ignore that - I have just managed to download the file!!

Swype Error :/

I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!

It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
I did so, largely for this reason, and although many have complained about its function, particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents, because I find the software an absolutely indispensable feature for the way I use my phone every day.

donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents,
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Like you I have found Swype brilliant!
Out of curiosity, what work around did you use to get around the 'long press' issue?

Franwella said:
Like you I have found Swype brilliant!
Out of curiosity, what work around did you use to get around the 'long press' issue?
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I've noticed that it seems to happen in specific contexts, and that in general, if I can keep my finger dead steady during the long press, it won't have a problem reading the long press about 95% of the time. Long press "?"/M seems to always work at the end of sentences, at least for me, for example, so I think there is some context issues related to this.
I also tried deleting the Swype User data files and it seemed to help. Not sure why, or if it was real or imagined, but the issue was less common after doing so.
I can't do without it in my HD2, so I'll live with it the way it is, because even with these issues, I don't mind it.

donalgodon said:
I've noticed that it seems to happen in specific contexts, and that in general, if I can keep my finger dead steady during the long press, it won't have a problem reading the long press about 95% of the time. Long press "?"/M seems to always work at the end of sentences, at least for me, for example, so I think there is some context issues related to this.
I also tried deleting the Swype User data files and it seemed to help. Not sure why, or if it was real or imagined, but the issue was less common after doing so.
I can't do without it in my HD2, so I'll live with it the way it is, because even with these issues, I don't mind it.
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Hi Donal,
Do you have a download link for the OzROM you have mentioned in your sig? I assume that installing it will wipe phone memory/data? I'm only asking as I have a problem with Swype, with it often causing the 'keyboard button' to become inoperable, I'm wondering if it's a problem with my Rom, as I only have the old 'out of the box' one, 1.43 or so I think.

I just reinstalled the Omnia2 versin of swype.
I somehow prefer that version..more used to it and it doesn't have that secondary key problem...

.::EmreE::. said:
I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!
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i had that issue , i soft reset , uninstalled , soft reset , installed , soft reset ... and then b4 attempting to use it went tot he settings and the languages had been loaded and everything now works
altho i like the version 2 better (but it appears to mess with my camera)

what is the easiet way to write names in swype by sliding and not tapping.

amitambika said:
what is the easiet way to write names in swype by sliding and not tapping.
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Tap them out once and Swype should add them to its database. You should be able to slide them out thereafter.

donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
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This is bollocks.
I have installed swype successfully (both versions) on a 1.43 rom and a 1.66 rom (both stock). ALL functionality works as it should.

Audio Oblivion said:
This is bollocks.
I have installed swype successfully (both versions) on a 1.43 rom and a 1.66 rom (both stock). ALL functionality works as it should.
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How did you do this ? give us a link for an working version, because with v.3.9, with my rom i had to hard reset the phone..

donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
I did so, largely for this reason, and although many have complained about its function, particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents, because I find the software an absolutely indispensable feature for the way I use my phone every day.
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Don't mislead people by offering advice when you don't know what you're on about.
There is no connection between the Swype CABs and the ROMs. It should all work.
Now, that error isn't uncommon, I've had it myself. Unless you get the error after installing the Swype HTC skin found on XDA, you can fix the error merely by uninstalling Swype and reinstalling using the CAB. Select the Swype keyboard to make sure it works and then do a soft reset.
I've used both the Omnia II and T-Mo HD2 Swype CABs on a variety of phones with a variety of ROMs and it all works. Currently using the HD2 CAB on official 1.66 WWE ROM and it works well.

Shawn_230 said:
Don't mislead people by offering advice when you don't know what you're on about.
There is no connection between the Swype CABs and the ROMs. It should all work.
Now, that error isn't uncommon, I've had it myself. Unless you get the error after installing the Swype HTC skin found on XDA, you can fix the error merely by uninstalling Swype and reinstalling using the CAB. Select the Swype keyboard to make sure it works and then do a soft reset.
I've used both the Omnia II and T-Mo HD2 Swype CABs on a variety of phones with a variety of ROMs and it all works. Currently using the HD2 CAB on official 1.66 WWE ROM and it works well.
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I already followed this steps with v3.9, but i had lost the e-mail & wi-fi passwords, the phone was blocking and needed to reset with the red button under the cover, with a long press on the keys to get symbols 90% of times did not working... swype it is really fast, but seems not working, at least the one fixed for hd2 , as it claims (with the .txt in /windows folder)

I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:

xboxdevil said:
I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:
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i had open it... it's the same i had tested.. nothing to do..

can you select swype by clicking the up arrow at the centre bottom off the keyboard? I only ask because this one worked for me whilst the other version I tried wiped my data connections too.

xboxdevil said:
can you select swype by clicking the up arrow at the centre bottom off the keyboard?
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Yes indeedy.

I have used both versions of swype, Omnia 2 and 3.9. I find 3.9 more pleasing to the eye. The buttons are bigger and the letters are bigger. Yes its a little harder to press and hold to get the numbers but it works everytime for me. Seems that the touch points are smaller.
But when installing both versions I lost email settings and wifi settings. The wep password disappears for the router and my smtp and pop settings disappear for emails. I have switched back and fourth and both versions cause the same issues. But so does pulling the battery when to do a reset. So it seems to be more of an HTC issue and not a swype issue.
I have heard others saying about the 3.9 and lock password being changed. I have a feeling swype 2.0 does the same thing. Might be linked to the other problems.

.::EmreE::. said:
I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!
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I had the same error. I solved by installing my language version and on Device memory instead of Storage card.
Anyway, I'm wondering how can I edit keyboard layout...

xboxdevil said:
I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:
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Could you please pull your cab. We do not yet have an official beta for Windows Mobile. It has been announced that Swype will be available through T-Mobile on the HTC HD2, but today it is only available through Verizon on the Samsung Omnia II.

Please help me to Fix Hardware Keyboard keys A,S,D,F...

Hi Communiteee...
I have just started tweaking my TP2 and for some reason the above mentioned keys die on me...
I initially thought it was the "Classic Word Completion" cab but I do not have this installed and this AM it died again
If I hard reset with the internal storage it does not fix the problem BUT when HR with the Hardware keys it Does
Is there a way to check in the registry if these are still mapped correctly please.
The path would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!

Bad Boi HTC said:
Hi Communiteee...
I have just started tweaking my TP2 and for some reason the above mentioned keys die on me...
I initially thought it was the "Classic Word Completion" cab but I do not have this installed and this AM it died again
If I hard reset with the internal storage it does not fix the problem BUT when HR with the Hardware keys it Does
Is there a way to check in the registry if these are still mapped correctly please.
The path would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
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If you loaded on a new rom then you probably have to find and install the keyboard fix for whatever version of your phone you have. Look in the thread you downloaded the rom from and you'll likely find it in there.
That said.. if you havnt installed a rom and your keys randomly stopped working I would still try a keyboard fix. You can do a search in the rom subforum for them.
Good luck

ASDF
Thank you Aaron,
I have only loaded the stock 6.5 ROM upgrade - will try to re-flash that and if that does not work I will try the Keyboard Editor I found on the Must have Apps Thread...
Will let ya know If I could get this resolved...

I am in the US and use AT&T. I have to install a cab every time I install a ROM or my keys are all screwed up. Maybe that is your issue. Good luck.

ASDF
kimtyson said:
I am in the US and use AT&T. I have to install a cab every time I install a ROM or my keys are all screwed up. Maybe that is your issue. Good luck.
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Hi There kimtyson,
Please advise which .cab that would be which you have to use?
I reflashed the Stock ROM and the keys worked for a while and then they decide to stop I have no idea why - I downloaded Energy ROM last night - will flash that at work and see if this resolves my problem...
HTC have replaced my Hardware Keyboard so it has to be something to do with the software
Thnx!

Bad Boi,
You mentioned your keyboard was replaced by htc already. I would send it back. If a hard reset doesnt fix the prob then I would say its a hardware prob. Maybe I missunderstood you but a hard reset puts the registry back to stock. You may have a bad flash and need to try to reflash the upgrade. Also, every cab or reg edits I did to get back the good old predictive text/word completion, it would always mess up my soft keyboard not the hard one. I have found that if you install HDTweak and enable the T9 option it will give you the predictive text back. You can even adjust how many words it suggests. Dont forget to turn off xt9 on your device. It works like a charm. If you need a good keyboard remapper I use Tarkim keyboard controller. I have to do almost my entire keyboard cause there isnt a 100 % fix for the Tilt 2. Here are links for the programs I mentioned. I hope this helps.

ASDF
thebigrhinoone said:
Bad Boi,
You mentioned your keyboard was replaced by htc already. I would send it back. If a hard reset doesnt fix the prob then I would say its a hardware prob. Maybe I missunderstood you but a hard reset puts the registry back to stock. You may have a bad flash and need to try to reflash the upgrade. Also, every cab or reg edits I did to get back the good old predictive text/word completion, it would always mess up my soft keyboard not the hard one. I have found that if you install HDTweak and enable the T9 option it will give you the predictive text back. You can even adjust how many words it suggests. Dont forget to turn off xt9 on your device. It works like a charm. If you need a good keyboard remapper I use Tarkim keyboard controller. I have to do almost my entire keyboard cause there isnt a 100 % fix for the Tilt 2. Here are links for the programs I mentioned. I hope this helps.
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Thank you thebigrhinoone,
I have reflased stock upgraded ROM and the problem still pops up now and then - with or without tweaks added...
I have the Clasic Word Completion from PPC Geeks (Similar to Vogue Stock) for my TP2 and that works without any problems and no remapping required...
For the time being the ASDF is working - I will Flash the new ROM if the keys lock up again just to make sure if its hardware or not...

FYI
The way I get the predictive text working doesnt require any key mapping. The key remapper was for you to reassign the keys that arent working to see if that solves the problem. Sorry if I wasnt clear about that. If your problem persists try using the hd tweak method to see if that takes care of it. There are a lot off options in that program that you might like as well to tweak your phone. Take care and good luck.
Dave