What's the Difference Between Opera Mini and Mobile? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development

I see that Mini is free and Mobile isn't...and Mini seems to have iPhone browser-type capabilities (well, at least the new beta)...
So why shouldn't I just get Mini? Am I missing something? Please help, anyone.
Thanks.
And if you have a link to the .cab files, please post 'em.

Opera mini is light version
Con:
Can't download files
Pro:
Fast browsing.Ie all files are processed at server and transferferd mobile version page(light weight) to mobile.
Opera mobile.
Opposite to above.
PS:I have listed major diffrence.there are more differences than listed above. I don't want want make porffesional documnet on this

You shouldn't forget:
Opera Mini is a JAVA application, while Opera Mobile is not.
I used Opera Mini first, and it just looked terrible on my HTC S620, so I switched to Opera Mobile, which is much better.
But you can and probably should try both and then decide.

an java apps are generaly slower then real wm apps
non of them support skinning though which is a shame
because i dont care much for the opera icons

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opera mini

Hello
i was wondering if i could run the opera mini on my xda exec?
why is opera mini termed as opera's solution for java?, what does the java language have to do with a browser?
hi, yes u can run opera mini on your device..but i would rather recomand opera 8.6 for pocket pc which is great ..i mean for me. opera mini is a java application thats why is a java solution
PM me and i will give you a link where u can get it
thanks for the reply
is opera8.6 for pocket pc also a java application, all browsers are not java applications, correct/
i guess opera would need to have the jre installed on the phone?
Just grab a copy of Opera Mobile (WM5 PPC) from here.
This will install the trial (30 day) version.
Some evil crackers/pirates (arr!) have edited the .DLL file to remove the 30 day limitation, but at least they had the decency to post it to GSM Hosting rather than this site.
I hope this helps.
I actually didn't care for the Opera browser... it was very slow compared to Opera Mini. Mini is extremely fast and does everything pretty well.
thanks for the replies
both opera and opera mini need to be bought?
no, Opera Mini is free.
Opera browser for the PPC is not free.
is this a case of the browser with the bells and whistles is paid whereas browser-lite is free?

xv6800 Compatible with Opera Mini.

I would like to know if opera mini is compatible with my verizon xv6800. According to the opera mini web site it is not. If it is compatible, do I need to install something else for it to work?
Yes, its compatable. Download the high memory version of Opera Mini 4 and you should be good to go. Good luck.
Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.
spectraphysics said:
Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.
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Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.
Corrykid said:
Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.
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Quit posting this crap or get banned.
To answer the question, yes opera mini is compatible after installing a java manager. I use mini 4 and 4.1 on my 6800. Works 1000 times better than the pocket ie for 99% of browsing.
I can confirm as well. I used emerstec jbed and opera mini 4.1 beta and I love it. Pages load in a few seconds, even ones with a lot of graphics (xda-forums main page with all the phone pics). I also have opera 9 mobile beta and rarely use it anymore since opera mini is several times faster at loading pages. I haven't had many rendering issues when loading pages either. There is a good thread in the development and hacking sub forum with all the files you need.
Anyone figured out how to load the new Opera Mini 4.1 with the touch of the IE button? Or how to get it to work as the default browser?

opera mini: question

I would to try opera mini, but on the official site I can't understand wich version is the best for the HD:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/
Dude the HD comes with Opera installed? I believe you can upgrade the version 2682 that comes installed to version 2745. check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252
Is Opera mini somehow better or different to Opera Mobile???
Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.
IIRC opera mini pre renders everything through their servers?
matthoy said:
Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.
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which versione doo you use? could you link me pls?
I think that is faster that normal opera and more suitable for gprs and 3g navigation than normal opera, isn't it?
in blackstone should be preinstalled opera not opera mini
yes, I'm sure. for me the mini version is far superior than it's big brother (Full RRS support for starters - yes i know the blackstone has the RSS hub, but this isn't linked to full opera browser - so not much use really).
there will be some sites that work better on the full version, but as far as my testing today has gone, all of the sites i used look and perform better in the mini version.
matthoy said:
yep.
and it looks great on the touch;s big screen.
i used it a lot on my e650 (suffered from a lot of image duplication when wrapping the page to the screen) but not on the touch, it's great!
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could you link the version of operamini you use on blackstone pls?
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'
Opera mini is great if you have slow connection(GPRS only), it is very fast, much faster browser than opera mobile. BTW original opera mobile freezes very often on my HD.
matthoy said:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'
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thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?
Mini Is Mini!!
to me..mini isnt worth it. TOO SMALL, not that much faster either. I cant find a zoom either.
After regular Opera, need jewelers loupes to read it.
Have to use stylus....blah blah...no way
Hell
I like the MINI - very fast
BUT
Does anybody know a trick to make the Font bigger ?
The menu is so small - even with the settings set to biggest Font
Thank you for help
Now why doesn't Opera Mobile have a function to zoom out to a total overview like mini does. I'm sick of spending 5 minutes scrolling down a long page with all the annoying f***** lockups!!
jackthekayman said:
thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?
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There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices
PJD-de said:
There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices
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ok thx very much
another thread
have you checked out ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407656
cheaper
From what I know, the opera mini goes through operas server which compresses the web sites and reduces the gprs cost very much compared to the full opera!
I can't find in opera mini how to enable the zoom button...is it there?
Opera mini - full screen?
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!
ubik said:
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!
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yes it's full screen.
By the way, I have problems with entering address, because no keyboard is available. How do you do it guys?

Anyone using Opera Mini ?

I've just installed Opera Mini on my Jade and I have to say, it's pretty nice.
Unlike Opera Mobile it is very fast and the zooming and display is better for a small screen like the 320x240 Jade screen.
Since the websites and images will be compressed by the Opera servers, the traffic is lower and the speed higher. Of course, I won't use the browser for sensible data, because the data runs through Opera proxies. But for normal browsing it's great.
The only problem: I can't switch to fullscreen, because the fullscreen can only be enabled by a key combination which I don't have on my Jade. Maybe someone knows how to fix this.
But it's still a nice browser.
Yes agree, I must say the speed is pretty impressive compared with the Op Mob even by setting graphics to high. btw is is there any method to launch it direct without launching jBlend first ? Am I missing something ? Cheers.
Here is a very useful overview of the features the most popular JVMs have.
As for the direct shortcut, my jade came with esmertec jbed, here is a description how to invoke opera mini (or any other midlet) directly from windows.
The problem is there's no description how to do that with jblend (why don't you use the preinstalled jbed, anyway?)
Mine is pre installed with JBlend. I've found the direct shortcut command i.e. \Windows\JBlend_AMS.exe -R 0.jar (0 is where your Opera Mini is in \windows\java, depending on your other installations.)
Thanks.
azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?
Hi !
Yes Opera Mini is Very Fast ! That Good but i have the solution for your problem !
When you are on Opera Mini go to :
Setting => Full screen
that very simple but i don't know if you want that or an other "full screen"
Bye
DarKSniper
xtremez said:
azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?
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well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities
azahidi said:
well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities
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For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).
MvBoe said:
For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).
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Talking about java-applet. How many of you are using Jblend? I tried today installing those 3D games that supposedly work with Jblend..but failed miserably in doing so...need help!
There is only a java version now, no PPC version. I don't like java programs.

opera mini5 beta

Hi everyone
Just installed this on my hd2 and like it but need to know how to transfer my favourites from my laptop browser (internet explorer) to my hd2 opera mini5.
thanks in anticipation
zip
the hd2 has opera installed as the default browser, why did you install another version?
you can use opera link, though you have to create an account.
opera mini
i installed this version because it looks better than the version installed on the phone , it loads quicker and has a nice interface . i also installed the link but it still doesnt transfer favourites.
It's a lot better than the one on the phone - shame you can't make it link in with Sense, and no multi-touch is an arse too
In other words .. it's better except it's worse ? I still use mobile 9.7.
I've just played with native mini 5, and it's nice, but mobile 10 is better in all aspects, and since I can't live without fluent zoom, I still use 9.7 anyway.

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