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Some issues after upgrading to WM2003 and (or?) Radio 4.21

Hi guys,
I uploaded a new rom with windows mobile 2003, the radio stack 4.21 from O2 site and I am very happy with my device.
Thank you all for made the upgrade possible.
I just have some issues that I wonder if they can be solved:
1) my xda does not send SMS. I am not sure if it depends from the WM2003 upgrade, radio 4.21 upgrade, both of them (or none of them!!).
The SMS center number is correct and verified. I receive SMS.
When I send them, I get the message SMS sent. It stores the SMS in the Sent Items folder but......the SMS does not arrive at destination
2) When I receive phone calls, and my mobile phone is OFF (or out of coverage), after I turn it on again my mobile operator sends me an SMS showing the number of the guy (guys) who tried to call.
This works fine, although after the upgrade I receive 2 SMS, one with the number of the caller and another one empty (??).
2b) With my previous phone (Motorola Timeport), the mobile operator used a (java?) application to associate the number of a missed call with the phone numbers stored in the SIM.
It was easy to see who called you and eventually call back.
Without this function I have to search my contact list in order to see if that number belongs to somebody in my contact list....pretty annoying
Any idea of the solution to those issues?
Thanks a lot.
Claudio.
P.S. My mobile operator is Wind in Italy.

i am in the same boat claudio

Claudio,
which version of WM2003 did you upgrade to ?
Ciao, bruco

UPDATE
1) The phone still does not send SMS correctly. Which means: a) they arrive very late (the next day) b) they do not arrive at all
2) Double SMS from mobile operator.
It seems a bug of the phone/operator. Apparently this happens also to other mobile phones.
2b) No update :-(
For Andhy: You live in Italy and have Wind operator?
For Brix3: I upgraded to the WM2003 available in the Jeff's kitchen 4.00.11 ENG

do you have the phone numbers stored in your contacts saved with the county code in front of them ? ie. +447989111222 ?
If you have remove the country code, so you would be left with: 07989111222.
I'm using WM2003 4.0.11 and Radio Stack 4.21 and I can send SMS fine, and missed calls are shown with the person's name if they are in my contacts book.

Claudio: I live in Thailand. Now I had no problems at all with sending sms. I know it may sound weird, but this sms problem happened each time after I flashed a new ROM (Been playing around a bit the past days). ANd I found out that the cure was to re-inserting SIM card with different ones. In other words, I replaced the SIM card with another one from different provider, did a few sms (worked) then inserted back the 'original' one and voila.. all semeed fine.. strange eh.. but that's what happened and what I did.. I always make sure that the SIM card rubber cover is closed properly...

Andhy!!
YES!! That is a nice bug.
I changed the SIM card sent a couple of SMS (working) changed back my original SIM card and now......SMS sending is perfectly working.
Thanks!!!!

Re: Some issues after upgrading to WM2003 and (or?) Radio 4.
claudioita said:
Hi guys,
I uploaded a new rom with windows mobile 2003, the radio stack 4.21 from O2 site and I am very happy with my device.
Thank you all for made the upgrade possible.
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Can you post the URL for the o2 website with WM2003? Or can you send me a copy please?
:wink:

Radio stack from O2 site
Windows Mobile 2003 from ROMKitchen

big problem is - sometime I cannot answer/dial call - system is frozen!
bad wm2003!

cgigate said:
big problem is - sometime I cannot answer/dial call - system is frozen!
bad wm2003!
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Which ROM are you using?

4.0.21

O2 SMS Plus - Help required

hi
I am trying to use O2 SMS Plus on my XDA Mini S but I am not getting very far.
The program installs alright, and when I start a 'chat' the SMS/chat message is sent fine but when I receive a reply it automatically opens in outlook and doesn't even update in O2 SMS Plus.
Anyone know whow to sort this? I am usuing verision 1.1 (04191205) on the new O2 AKU2 ROM
Cheers
Dip

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Help with O2 SMS Plus

I have installed O2 SMS Plus and the patch. I can send sms successfully , however the replies made by the person only show in my inbox, the don't show in O2 sms plus at all! Does someone have a fix for this? Any help would be great as i'm dying for this program to work!

Are you sure?
You do not need a patch I think, only one cab is doing well. (but O2Plus needs a patch)
Which version of "SMS+" is yours? Try this it works well at least for me :wink:

will this work for my MDA US (tmobile)?

Give it a try. Won't lose anything.
8)

That was the same program that I had before, I have removed it, and re-installed it several times, but to no avail....I can send sms from it perfect...but everyone who replies to me, the sms go straight to the normal inbox and don't even show in the os sms plus program. I have read numerous posts of people who have it running fine, I just don't understand why I can't get the damn program to work right!

don't know if this has any bearing, but....
maybe you have spb pocket plus or a similar app running, and did not include o2smsplus.exe in the exceptions list (only tmail.exe)?

I've noticed that O2 SMS Plus V1.2 (01060606) is the latest version of O2 SMS Plus
Anybody got a change to see what's different? Except from the numbers of course

where can one download 1.2?

The only thing that I have running that I could think would cause a problem would be pocketbreeze, do you tink that disabling this would help?

When you use O2 SMS Plus you have to close your standard Inbox.
Did you do this?
I also use PocketBreeze, and O2 SMS Plus works fine..

Were you able to get SMS Plus to be the default application?

mccune said:
When you use O2 SMS Plus you have to close your standard Inbox.
Did you do this?
I also use PocketBreeze, and O2 SMS Plus works fine..
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My messaging program is not running, is there another way to close my inbox? I just don't have it open, maybe I am not doing something right....how do I go about actually closing my inbox?

You should be able to close it when you go to:
Start -> Settings -> System -> Memory-> Active Programs
But when you don't use a program with Task Manager, like MagicButton, vBar, PocketPlus etc. Then I believe it should close the Inbox without the use of any extra program
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I've noticed that you use PocketPlus. You can just tap on the top right. You should be able to see the Inbox in the running programms. Just press the X to close it.
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Have you tried the version attached in the second post?

Humm, where to download version 1.2 again? :twisted:

I tried the version in the second post...still same problem ....

1.2 isn't available for download.. ..it's part of the O2 Atom Exec ROM

i see. and whats new in 1.2 compared to 1.1?

Guys, who REALLY solved problem with SMS???

I very, very sad....
I can't view list of SMS
I can't answer to SMS without 5-10sec timeout
I can't use default interface for SMS
Its terrible.
If you ready to answer me about this with thread when swith to default mode, you must to know that I've tried this and I lost MMS.
I can't use only SMS without MMS.....
Plz, help. Who sovle this problem, help.....
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+1 it's to sad. I've had the phone for 3 weeks now, and i'm waiting on HTC to fix this terrible issue (this and the alarm issue..)
i still have to use Nokia N86 as my primary phone, because like you, i want both MMS and SMS. HTC please??

Guys,
If this issue is really of concern to you do the following:
- write to HTC so they know that there is still a problem out there for some users.
- implement this fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584696 (see the last post f you want to solve the MMS issue).
WB

Same here!!
What I am doing now as a workaround is using PowerSMS (http://download.cnet.com/PowerSMS/3000-10440_4-10920088.html).
It allows you to make a full backup (among others) of your SMS (inbox and sent items) and restore them anytime with the option to delete them after backing up.
Regarding the amount of use you can backup SMS you don't need anymore. It's really quick.
I'm doing this once/twice in a week and the sms app is responding. According to the amount of sms you send/receive you can screw it up and down;-)
I receive round about 10 sms each day and send ~10 sms pro day.
But as I said. It's not really a solution but a little apsirin for my headache!
Cheers,
LEE
P.S. beside all these, this powerSMS is a really nice app (e.g schedule SMS ) .

Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.

BLAST3RR said:
Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
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I use MyPhone on a daily basis (it automatically backs up everything except my storage card at 4am). It also allows you to archive text messages online, and you can then delete them from your online store and it automatically deletes them from your phone during the next sync. Doing this, I never have problems with my SMS or MMS, as I keep the number of messages down. I've got over 2000 messages archived on MyPhone (accessible via the web interface), and about 100 on my phone at the moment. Once there's a 100% fix in place, I can restore the archive and they will get put back on my phone automatically.
If any of you are having problems, have you done what wacky.banana suggested? That thread seems to have resolved the issue for the majority of people. Okay it's not ideal, but until HTC fix this then we have to make do with what we have.

I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.

Henry_Lee said:
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
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Henry_Lee,
What JohnCMolyneaux is trying to tell you is that your problem is probably being caused by the HTC SMS application not being able to cope with too many texts on your phone. Its a well known problem and produces the symptoms you have (search for SMS problem on XDA and you will find lots of threads on this).
What he was trying to say was that if you backup your texts online then delete all of them off the phone but the bare essentials then you stand a better chance of getting the HTC SMS app to work.
An even better solution is the one I set out above.
There's no more on offer here I'm afraid. It's either one of the 2 solutions above or you live with it.
WB

I have only 10-20 SMS on my phone and get problem even with 1-5 SMS.
I already wrote to HTC support service but I think someone solve problem....

I never had any problem .. I know it's not being helpful, but just so you know.

now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S

I have two major issues with this phone, 1. some sms messages doesen't get sent, they're stuck in the outbox. 2. the alarm clock isn't reliable at all.
Sendt an e-mail to HTC and got this answer: (i did include in the e-mail the fact that i have installed the hotfix)
Dear HTC Customer
HTC is aware of this now, and working on a solution. Thank you for your patience

shu8i said:
now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
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Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.

Henry_Lee said:
But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
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Never heard of Miri then?

Henry_Lee said:
Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
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Well, this will not easily be solved by a simple rom fix.... It's a fundamental error in the sense 2.5 msging. The alternatives aren't perfect either (there is a sense 2.1 workaround which has some bugs as well as the 'disable sense' option which isn't all that for some).
Afaik custom roms usually are stripped, updated, modified and tweaked and no core fixes which are the resposibility of HTC.

Henry_Lee,
I found a solution for my SMS problem, which was quite similar to yours I think:
- not able to send (new) or answer messages
- not able to see message history
- not able to go to 'more' for more options
First of all I wrote an email to HTC as well, but they didn't seem to understand my problem or care about it. They answered a hotfix
would be available soon, but that was a hotfix to solve the other SMS problem where messages didn't get sent immediately etc..
However, once this was released I downloaded it and installed it onto my HD2, result: wasted my time (as I expected really...).
Because HTC didn't respond to my next messages anymore (therefore I assume they don't really care) I started to try a couple of things
myself:
1. Made a backup using SBP Backup software excluding a backup of the registry in System Data
2. Performed a hard reset
3. Installed ROM upgrade (in my case it was Netherlands 1.48.404.2)
4. Installed SMS Function Update
5. Re-installed most of the files in the backup in ROM Upgrade Mode, apart from System Data (use Customize Restore)
Result: problem(s) solved!
SMS works like a charm again, as it did when I just bought the phone.
Just disappointed in the way the HTC customer service desk works (or doesn't work...). Still, it's not just HTC's CS, Nokia excels in their
stupidity, one of the reasons I got a HTC phone this time. Let's hope I won't have to contact any of them again soon...
Hope this helps!
Brgds,
Paul

Polvito said:
Result: problem(s) solved!
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How long has the problem been solved? I found this problem after 3 weeks with my device. A hard reset (or equally a ROM flash) would surely cause the equivalent. You may see the problem reappear, as I did after a week, after the 1.48 "upgrade".

johncmolyneux said:
How long has the problem been solved?
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The SMS function has been up and running for about 3 weeks now. And like I mentioned earlier I have also upgraded the ROM version, no problems since.
Many messages have been sent and received meanwhile so at the moment I'm confident the problem has been solved properly. If not I will let y'all know!
Brgds,
Paul

I do sympathize with those having SMS issues. Have you all consider possibility is hardware issue as you also notice there are guys in the forum saying they do not have such issues. I am one of them. I have been using the HD2 for 38 days already. On day one I restore about 800 sms into my phone. There was NO lag and the SMS were all displayed within 10+ secs ( one time lag to display ). Subsequent no more such lag as was instant display when I access it
SMS stuck in outbox only one time ( few minutes ) - I discounted it off, as I just reach another country
daily I send/recieve about 20-30 SMS : till today I NEVER encountered SMS stuck in outbox. SMS was also immediately displayed in PEOPLE tab ( found many users complain very slow to load ). I only face this issue few days ago on the cooked rom based on Leo 2.0 build 28*** ; I change back to rom based on build 2188## - no more such issue
Till today I NEVER even bother to install the SMS hotfix - see no need of it

johncmolyneux said:
Never heard of Miri then?
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Heard, but I will wait normal SPL and Bepe.
When I had HTC Cruise I tried many ROMs and Miri's too, but only Bepe to cook ROM like my taste.
Looks like HSPL is ready. isnt?

SMS Problems

Hi All,
I changed my SIM card yesterday (replacement) and since then can't sent SMS messages?
I have tried to find info. on this with no luck! Any ideas
i'm with Vodafone
Thanks
N

im also using ROM Version 1.66.405.2

What is the problem? Does it show any error?
Have you checked if the SMS center number? (I think you can find how to do that in the manual or by contacting Vodafone).

SMS problem
I have this problem also.
I think it's a bug in the software of HTC-sense ( not WM ), while, when I send a free sms (only one's a day) from the Vodafone-button in the Start-menu, this works well.
I have all the update's done from the HTC-site, also all the Rom's I've tried from this site.
Should say HTC is coming with the solution, but this it's pending much to long!
HTC take your responsibility!!!!!!!!!!

Solved - SMS stucked in outbox and have not been sent
noodles3 said:
Hi All,
I changed my SIM card yesterday (replacement) and since then can't sent SMS messages?
I have tried to find info. on this with no luck! Any ideas
i'm with Vodafone
Thanks
N
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I had same problem as each SMS I tried to send was found stucked in the outbox file and never been sent out.
That was solved be replacing the SIM card, with a brand new one i got.
The former Sim card worked perfect with my old device - but not with the new HD2.
Try to use another new Sim card to find out if that is the same case.
Wish u good luck.

hi there i had this problem with the sms and now i'm all good.
i have the 1.48 rom inst. and i have found on the htc europe site an update for sms. i' ve instaled it and after 1 month of testing it i have no problems with my sms not sending or stocked in the outbox like before. i'm also on vodafone