does anyone know when google will release its gmail app for WM5/6?
I know the java one is available, but I had heard rumblings of a gmail app for WM5.
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does anyone know when google will release its gmail app for WM5/6?
I know the java one is available, but I had heard rumblings of a gmail app for WM5.
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What this 'gmail app' does? Just curious. Is it a mail application?
what gmail app...i already have my gmail account set up through outlook on my 8525 to auto sync...why would you need an app...
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What this 'gmail app' does? Just curious. Is it a mail application?
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Gmail allows you to link all your various e-mail accounts together and view them as one instead of logging into several accounts or inboxes.Those with data contracts wll likely have no dificulties using gmail on the go. However, it seems many folk cannot connect if they are using a pre-paid or payg account with their telecom provider.For these people you currently have a Java Applet version, wifi when available, or logging in via the browser (expensive). Hence the need for an application that gives the same look and functionality as that enjoyed by data conacted folk.Mike
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Gmail allows you to link all your various e-mail accounts together and view them as one instead of logging into several accounts or inboxes.
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So my question is, "then I should be able to get all my email using the pocket outlook configured to this gmail account right?"
the gmail app that I am refering to is a small client that allows for gmail to push messages to your handheld device. I used it on my Blackberry and it was great. I had heard that google was going to eventually release the same type of client for PPC. Also, I use google apps so I do not have a gmail account. i have a [email protected] account that uses gmail.
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what gmail app...i already have my gmail account set up through outlook on my 8525 to auto sync...why would you need an app...
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because the pop3 sync is hard on the battery. (unless you accept the defaults to sync every 2 hours.) the gmail app is not hard on the battery. at least it wasn't on the Blackberry.
I'd like to know this as well.. I hardly use the gmail java midlet because it just isnt too great. If they had a native app like google maps or something, then I'm sure they can make it much better.
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So my question is, "then I should be able to get all my email using the pocket outlook configured to this gmail account right?"
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That's the theory - try it out on the PC
Mike
Have you considered logging into gmail, using the help function there, and then asking google this question? Seems they'd be the ones to know, not us.
You could even inform everyone here about what their response is after you do so.
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Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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Option 1. forward your gmail account to mail2web or one of the other free services which is a free hosted exchange account (more or less).
Option 2. Set up your gmail for I-map and "idle" it. I know it can be done using flex mail, but not sure about idle in Pocket Outlook.
Option 3. Set up your device to check for mail every X minutes. You already new that one though.
Option 4. Set up to forward your mail to your device. IE: on cingular, it used to be you could forward it to "[email protected]" That one, you would need to check with your service provider.
hth
Hi ssschmidt,
I know there are ways I could forward my Gmail to another email service that is an Exchange Server and so does support Microsoft-style push email BUT I am wondering why Google doesn’t implement this themselves.
There are a tone of Windows Mobile devices out there AND Google is already offering Gmail at your own domain name with “Google Apps” service. If all of a sudden I could get true push Gmail with my own domain name (part of Google Apps) I think a lot of people might reconsider that upgrade to Exchange 2007.
Figuring out the exact format of the HTTP conversation between the WM device and the Exchange server couldn’t be that hard. Heck, I think I might be able to take a crack at it myself
In case anyone is wondering what happens is this. The WM device makes an HTTP request to the Exchange server and says “notify me if anything changes in these folders within the next X minutes”. The Exchange server the starts monitoring the folders in question for the specified period of time. If the folder “changes” (a message arrives, a contact is updated, an appointment re-scheduled) Exchange sends the changed items back as part of the HTTP response (the connection is left open and ‘hanging’ for the specified period of time). If nothing happens and the time period lapses the Exchange server sends an empty response and the HTTP connection is closed. The WM device then resumes the process over again by making another request. This it why it is called “client initiated ‘push’” because in reality the WM device is continually asking for changes. The constant back & forth acts as a kind of heartbeat so both ends of the connection (the WM device and the Exchange Server) know the other is still there (in case the WM device is out of service, turned off or otherwise off the grid).
I can see no reason why this HTTP conversation can’t be implemented (along with the correct URL’s) on a non-Exchange server such as Gmail. If Google decided to offer this I think it might be an Exchange killer. Currently I am thinking of ways I can get my own Exchange server. I have several customers with Exchange and a few of the might be willing to host my email for me. Currently I am using Google Apps which I absolutely LOVE but I would also love to be able to sync my plethora of contacts.
Maybe someone in Google reads these forums
The Fish
I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
berardi said:
I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
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I am sure your probably right. But if Google is interested in taking business away from Exchange (which I think they are judging by the Google Apps sign-up page) then it would make sense to provide this service to the thousands (if not millions) of WM users out there worldwide.
The Fish.
Gmail via Activesync
thefish123 said:
Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
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From the posts in this thread, looks like nobody mentioned having tried MobiPush. Mobipush allows you to have your Gmail, Yahoo, or other IMAP or POP account email pushed to your WM 5/6 device using the device's Direct-Push Technology. I am currently using the service with my Gmail account and it works well. Sign up is free. You must setup your Gmail options to allow IMAP or POP access, then follow the instructions on MobiPush's site to setup your device. I also forgot to mention that it seems that only mail is sync'ed at this time (no contacts or calendar, or tasks.)
Here's the link:
www.mobipush.com
Windows Live Hotmail provides Direct Push
Another option is to register for a live hotmail account (mail.live.com) and forward your gmail to this account. You can configure your Touch for push email from live hotmail by following the instructions here: http://blogs.msdn.com/mayurk/archiv...dows-live-hotmail-and-windows-mobile-6-0.aspx
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Another option is to register for a live hotmail account (mail.live.com) and forward your gmail to this account. You can configure your Touch for push email from live hotmail by following the instructions here: http://blogs.msdn.com/mayurk/archiv...dows-live-hotmail-and-windows-mobile-6-0.aspx
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However when you do this your reply comes from your Live/Hotmail account. Do you know if you can do this and have your reply come from your gmail account?
Thanks!
Apparently there are other companies/groups that have independently developed products that are compatible with Microsoft’s “DirectPush” technology. So the good news is we know it can be and has been done.
Check out this product http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerio_MailServer
Hopefully Google will develop something that will allow Gmail to masquerade as an Exchange server to a Windows Mobile device. Imagine having push email as well as contact and calendar synchronization with Gmail?? on your WM device? All without any third-party connectors/forwarding/etc.
The Fish.
PS: thanks to everyone for all the suggestions...
www.nuevasync.com for contacts and calendar sync - imap sync is coming - but it's been "coming" for a long time so we can only hope...
try http://www.funambol.com
It will sync calendar, email and contacts.
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try http://www.funambol.com
It will sync calendar, email and contacts.
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i am currently using funambol with scheduleworld for my google calendar - are you using funambol by itself for your calendar?
thanks
nuevasync is great for syncing google contacts and calendar. No downloads everything works through activesync. Their blog says gmail is coming so for now I just use IMAP for gmail.
I simply use www.mobipush.com services, works great for emails.
thefish123 said:
Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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First of all, you don't need MS Push because Google does have a mail push mechanism in place. It is called IMAP Idle. You can read it from here: http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/imap-idle.html. So all you need to do is setting up your IMAP IDLE compatible client to sync with gmail via IMAP instead of POP.
Now, you may also like to forward you mail to mail2web and take advantage of the push mail plus push calendar, contact and task. But you can also use OggSync and keep everything in Google.
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I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
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Well, they already have the solution.
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i am currently using funambol with scheduleworld for my google calendar - are you using funambol by itself for your calendar?
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Actually I am only using/testing funambol on my gmail. I don't use a calendar as of yet, too little time to test on funambol. I do know that contacts synch via funambol does work. I guess you are calling me to task;-)
I know there are various ways using combinations of third party software and/or services and so forth of syncing email one way, calendar another, etc, etc. But imagine being able to sync EVERYTHING in Google Apps with their counterparts on your Windows Mobile device using the NATIVE built-in synchronization mechanism of that device.
If Google is serious about killing Exchange in the SMB market place they will implement this.
Currently I still sync my Vogue with my Exchange server even though I also use Google Apps.
The Fish
there is always this
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
works well for me
Did I call it or what?!?!
OK, little brag moment there but!!! Have a look at this screen shot. I am not 100% sure when Google added this but this is EXACTLY what I was hoping for just over a year ago! Did I call it or what? I can't imagine Gmail/Google Apps being any cooler
The Fish
Basically, its annoying me, its like i have two seperate emails, whilst only using one.
I have the big mail widget as i like it, scrolling up and down emails without opening the app etc....
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it seems to run seperate the android one, as when i get email notification, for 1 email sent to my gmail account, i get two notifications, one from htc widget one from android google mail. then when i load up htc, all the emails i have previously read, are set as not read because i read them on the android app!
anyone now a work around, ?
Unlink your gmail app from the gmail account. This is google's Gmail app that was written seperatley from the standard mail application, thus the notifications are seperate.
Use only the HTC Mail application and sign both your standard mail and gmail accounts on to them (activate POP3 or IMAP on your gmail account and set it up using the same details you would normally use in Outlook or some other program). There is a guide to setting up gmail accounts in external clients somewhere in the gmail help pages here: http://mail.google.com/support/
Once that is done, and assuming you've unlinked your gmail application completely, you should have it working the way you want.
Don't setup Gmail via IMAP or POP. Use Google's Exchange server. Instructions in the following link. They're for Windows Mobile but they work just the same.
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
Don't sign out of gmail, that would stop the market working as well, just go to home>menu>settings>accounts and sync>google
untick mail.
personally, i go the other way and refuse to use HTC's travesty of a mail program...but that's just my personal opinion. Hope you get it working how you want it...
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Don't sign out of gmail, that would stop the market working as well, just go to home>menu>settings>accounts and sync>google
untick mail.
personally, i go the other way and refuse to use HTC's travesty of a mail program...but that's just my personal opinion. Hope you get it working how you want it...
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that worked for me
I am total Newbie to android (from iphone 3g) and learning every time I use the phone or browse forums online. Loving the phone so far (its so damn fast)
A few questions in my mind on the mail App:
1. I want to use one consolidated mail app for all my accounts (exchange, gmail with activesync, yahoo & hotmail). Is this possible? I see there is a separate app for Yahoo but I want to use just one app for all. Also I am unable to configure hotmail using activesync. Can anyone please post the settings?
2. I see that the mail app doesnt maintain a tree structure, I need to click at the top to change accounts instead of going back just like I am used to on my iphone. Can this be changed or I need to start getting used to this?
Appreciate any help
I use Gmail for all my accounts. On your PC, go into your Gmail user settings. You can import all kinds of different accounts from there. The beauty of this is its seamless integration with Android OS. Once you set it up you'll never have to repeat the process again. If you wipe your phone or switch phones, you log in and you're good to go.
Thanks for your suggestion. However I would like to seperate out my accounts and dont want to import them into gmail.
Is there any other way to get this done or is it something I need to live with (which i am not very happy about)
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Thanks for your suggestion. However I would like to seperate out my accounts and dont want to import them into gmail.
Is there any other way to get this done or is it something I need to live with (which i am not very happy about)
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Only way. I have them color coded in gmail so its easy to see what account it came from
s1lverdream said:
Thanks for your suggestion. However I would like to seperate out my accounts and dont want to import them into gmail.
Is there any other way to get this done or is it something I need to live with (which i am not very happy about)
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Your accounts will be labeled separately. You can color code them and filter your folders too. You should give it a try. It's very reliable.
Ok. I will give it a shot and see. Thanks.
BTW, any inputs on getting yahoo mail and hotmail on activesync working in the default mail app?
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Ok. I will give it a shot and see. Thanks.
BTW, any inputs on getting yahoo mail and hotmail on activesync working in the default mail app?
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+1...?
Also, if you set up gmail to get your mail from your yahoo accounts, how frequently will it get/check for your yahoo messages? Can you set it up so that your replies look like it came from your yahoo account?
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+1...?
Also, if you set up gmail to get your mail from your yahoo accounts, how frequently will it get/check for your yahoo messages? Can you set it up so that your replies look like it came from your yahoo account?
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Go to Google and search for these FAQs. All i can tell you is that i get pop and imap accounts pushed through Gmail frequently enough that i never miss a beat.
Hey all,
So, I guess there was an update where Gmail takes over the native email client. Thing is, I don't want to use Gmail to manage the mail, I want to use the regular one. In the instructions on how to get Gmail out, is says to go to accounts, then select the POP/IMAP accounts you don't want managed by Gmail. I don't have that option, for me, Gmail is everywhere. When I try to add an account, it's Gmail.
Any idea on the Moto how I can go back? Uninstall Gmail? And any idea why the Moto Mail app is incompatible with the Moto X Pure?
Thanks
Apparently Moto came up with another one, but it shows as incompatible so far.......another waiting game i suppose.
http://m.androidcentral.com/motorola-brings-its-stock-email-app-google-play-tweaks-and-improvements
Gmail app somehow borked up my yahoo email in gmail app, when yahoo email forced a password change. Couldn't get it to work anymore and couldn't remove the instance of yahoo email from the app/accounts either. Sometimes I think Google intentionally sets things up to not work very well with competitors' stuff like this.
I'm using K-9 mail app for yahoo email now, works well enough for me.
Not seeing the moto email client on play...
I just gave up on pre installed mail apps altogether and have been using CloudMagic client as my default. Odd name I know, but its easily one of the best email clients I've used on android.
I just started using blue mail and really like the looks and feel. I used kaiten forever but it started giving me problems with this phone.
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I actually prefer to keep my emails separate. I use yahoo app for Yahoo mail. Gmail for my gmail accounts. Outlook for exchange and my Hotmail account.
I like it organized and separated better that way. Especially since I have two business accounts it helps to keep it organized and my exchange accounts always sync perfect via outlook
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I never use pre-installed email or Gmail client. Big fan of K-9 app. Give K-9 and other apps mentioned here a try, you may find one to your liking.
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I never use pre-installed email or Gmail client. Big fan of K-9 app. Give K-9 and other apps mentioned here a try, you may find one to your liking.
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Always used k9 myself. TypeMail as show some promise lately for me as well.
I use inbox on phone gmail on computer.
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Another vote for K-9 Mail.
My issue with CloudMagic (if I remember correctly), they store your emails on their servers. They also spam you with ads unless you specifically opt-out.
You have to have an outside link to view the Moto email client on the play store. I wonder why it's not compatible with their flagship phone? I also would like to use this app.
For my work exchange account, Outlook is doing OK so far. But I'd sure like to find a way to force the new Moto mail app onto our devices.
I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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This is the best.
Nine works great for exchange
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I use Nine for exchange.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3&hl=en
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The best.
Does nine or k9 allow you to bypass exchange security like mailwise?
Thanks for all the suggestions, but has anyone found an answer to the original question? how do I default back to the stock email client on the Moto? The instructions Google provides don't match with what I see on my screen...
Thanks
the moto email client used to be the AOSP email client, until google made gmail app handle all mail types from what i understand. You would have to root and unlock to get the old AOSP mail app.
Theres a new moto mail app that is supposed to be on the new droid coming out but it shows incompatible for our pure, maybe in the future that will be available.
Any ideas why the email app won't sync? Im signed in but it just says "action required to sync email" and then links me to the google play store to download outlook?
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Any ideas why the email app won't sync? Im signed in but it just says "action required to sync email" and then links me to the google play store to download outlook?
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While perhaps a different issue--the link-y to Play Store / download Outlook thing is strange--the email sync / notification issues were discussed a bit here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/gmail-push-notification-issues-t3595024 .
(FWIW, I've been using Outlook recently as the best email client that works with regular Gmail (not Google Apps) with the option to turn off conversation view. TypeApp / Blue Mail is another, but MS finally has Outlook doing a respectable job, after many months of false starts with the app.)
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Any ideas why the email app won't sync? Im signed in but it just says "action required to sync email" and then links me to the google play store to download outlook?
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I just got my S8+ today and experienced the same issue. I added my Outlook.com as Exchange Active Sync account to get calendar and contacts synced on the phone too.
This results in the "action required to sync email" message in your inbox, which encourages you to download the Outlook app. If you read the email closely, towards the end is a link to click if you don't want to use the Outlook app. Click on that link and it will take you to a page where the Outlook team acknowledges that you don't want to use the app, and your email/calendar/contacts will sync with the Samsung apps quite happily.
It is insane to go thru these hoops to get full syncing...if you go thru the Outlook app, the sync is only one way too. I wouldn't mind if the Outlook app for Android was as graceful as the iOS version...
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I just got my S8+ today and experienced the same issue. I added my Outlook.com as Exchange Active Sync account to get calendar and contacts synced on the phone too.
This results in the "action required to sync email" message in your inbox, which encourages you to download the Outlook app. If you read the email closely, towards the end is a link to click if you don't want to use the Outlook app. Click on that link and it will take you to a page where the Outlook team acknowledges that you don't want to use the app, and your email/calendar/contacts will sync with the Samsung apps quite happily.
It is insane to go thru these hoops to get full syncing...if you go thru the Outlook app, the sync is only one way too. I wouldn't mind if the Outlook app for Android was as graceful as the iOS version...
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As you say - it's insane how difficult this stuff is. I thought it was bad enough when I set EAS syncing on an HTC 10 but this is even more convoluted. Why, if you set up an EAS account and select Contact and Calendar syncing, does it not just happen and allow syncing with any Contact or Calendar app! To hide the steps to enable it to an Email that isn't easily discoverable and has nothing to do with EAS is "bonkers" .
THANK YOU!!!!
I saw the link on the bottom you referred to, but my technology-illiterate self ignored it because I didn't think it would apply to what I was trying to do. But, lo and behold, I clicked on it, restarted my phone, and poof - there was all the email that previously wouldn't sync.
Thank you SO MUCH and Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you!!