how the hell do you turn off the device, if i press the power button once the screen goes completely black and i cannot tap anything but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it comes alive. if i press and continue pressing for two seconds, the screen simply dims and i can still tap on the screen?
so how do you switch it off?
and if you reset how do you prevent it from loading the T-Mobile customization?
Also, mine has a dead pixel and i have just opened it can i take it back as faulty? it's only one dead pixel but it's really really annoying...does it count as a fault. i'm gonna try and take mine back tomorrow
A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
Longkesh said:
A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
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Well, when i do that the screen goes blank but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it goes back on again!!!!!!!!!!!!
To totaly turn off the device you need to slide the battery lock button out and then back in. It is the only way I have found to totaly turn the device off.
To lock the keys go into "settings" then "system" and choose "button lock" then choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
John
oh, i see. i thought it was like the other phones, nokia SE etc.
thanks alot for all your replies
thank you
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
sayreul said:
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
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I dont think it has anyhting to do with PDA. I have had 3 PDA's before. All of them had an "off" button that turned the thing off. Ditto for phones. So this is just Microsoft's strange decision. Dont make the guy feel back just because he is thinking logically - and they are not.
I've had quite a few PDAs over the years:- Casio E80? Psion 3, 3a, 3c, 5, 5mx, iPaq 3630, XDAI, XDAII, MDA Compact.
None of them have ever had an off button. They turn off the screen and may even slow the processor or put it in sleep mode. But they all kept their memory powered up and clock / alarms / appointments alive at all times.
This may change in the future as flash ram is now fast enough that you could actually run stuff from it so you could truly kill power (apart from clock and wakeup stuff) without emptying your memory.
My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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So, if your Palm completely powered down when you pressed this magic "off" button, how come the alarms still worked? How come it woke up when you pressed any of the four application buttons or tapped the screen? How come your data was still kept in RAM?
More wisdom from the skagen...
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
But this is not so for most PDA:s on the market.
Most PDA:s will go into some kind of sleep mode when you press the "off" button. And mostly it is not even a true sleep mode, a lot of processes are still running, and even network connections can be kept active. This is also the way most PDA users would want their PDA to work. Also, the way most PDA:s are built, a power down means resetting everything back to defaults and thereby loosing all of your data and third party applications. This could be cured by using non volatile RAM for all of the memory, but I guess there is probably a good reason why this is not normally done.
Actually, on most modern computers a short tap on the power button will put them in suspend mode and holding it for more than two seconds will turn them off. So the only thing that is really strange with the PDA is that a long press on the button will not even put it in sleep mode but only shut off power to the display. And as I actually don't know anyone that has ever used that worthless function I think they should probably replace it with a "real" sleep mode, where all of the hardware is actually shut off except for support voltage to keep the memory "alive".
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If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
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On N 6100 ,and on all nokia phones, the clock alarm wake's up the phone... You then have a choice of whether to activate the phone or not...
Same with all the Siemens phones I owned ( 4 so far). When shutting off the phone, the clock and alarms keep working. The only thing that does not work, off course, is the radio so incoming calls are diverted to voice mail. But with the phone off, the alarms still wake me up!
It would indeed be a good idea if using the power button on any type of XDA would turn the device really off, using power only for keeping the clock working and the data stored...
If the alarms jeep working on your phone when in "off" mode it is not actually off but in a low power mode with the phone functions turned off. So what you are really asking for is that the power button should turn off the phone but keep the pda running. This seems quite useless to me. Exactly how often are you in such a hurry to turn off the phone?
Yes, the device is in sleep mode, but it is a very deep sleep indeed, since it uses close to zero power. When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button. Seems like rather a hassle, doesn't it, compared to a normal phone? So I don't mean for the PDA to keep running ful operations, but rather to power down to a level where it only uses a little power to keep the storage working. And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
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My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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This guy is unbelievable. You were claiming that your Palm turned completely off when you hit the off button - not a cellphone, jerk.
Koksie said:
When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button.
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Wrong - programs that can be _are_ suspended when you put the PDA into standby. Try it with MediaPlayer.
How do you know the Today screen is still running? Like you know the fridge light really stays on when you shut the door?
Wouldn't you be complaining more (because of the missed calls) if turning the PDA off to save the battery also killed the phone?
Most of us can get our heads round this - the Standby button on the side controls the PDA. The Flight mode controls the phone. Not exactly difficult, is it?
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And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
That's where you fall into sjkagen's trap, again. For the zillionth time, the Jam/Compact is not just a phone. It's primarily a PDA. That's why it costs so much more than a phone. And on a PDA, you need to be able to look up information instantly - not have to wait a minute for the darn thing to boot up.
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skagen said:
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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Oh skagen, how ignorant you are. Seems you cannot understand pictures, let alone words.
The label on the Jam "off" button is a line through a broken circle, which is the IEC symbol for STANDBY, not POWER OFF. Just like on all other PDAs, and your TV remote control.
See
http://eetd.lbl.gov/Controls/overview/symbols1.pdf
Now look again at all your "phones" which completely shut down when you press the "power" button. What symbol do they have?
Seeing as you obviously have so much difficulty telling the difference between a cellphone and a Palm, a phone and a PocketPC, or a power switch from a standby button, here's another teaser for you.
1. How do cellphones manage to keep their memory when they are turned off or the battery is removed?
2. What is the difference between the memory in cellphone and that in most PDAs?
3. Why do most PDAs have Standby (Soft Off) and not Power (Hard Off) buttons?
Wow, seems like some people are getting really sensitive when I call the Magician a phone... Sorry if I insulted you guys, it is just that I compare it to a phone because I use it for that the most, but I do understand that it is actually much more than that!
I have no problems with the way the sleep button works, it is ok for me, I just wanted to say that there are other possibilities that could have been used to map the button to. Especially since some people would have liked the button to work more "phone wise". But since it is primarily a PDA, I see that this current application is the most logical thing for the button to do.
BTW you are totally right that most running apps are termintated when pushing the power button. Although WMP stays active in the running programs menu, the music is cut off. However, since the prog stays loaded, does this consume more power than shutting it down completey (e.g. with SPB Pocket Plus)?
I think the Today screen stays loaded BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE AFTER WAKE UP, just as you say: it does not have to be booted first. BTW: I have a little window in my fridge door to check wether the light goes off .
And please guys, don't call each other jerks or ignorant just because someone's questions or remarks anoy you. Reply polite or don't reply at all!
i have this problem with my atom life. not like my previous xda IIi, phone button (answer and reject) could not work when atom life is turned off. in xda IIi, i could press answer phone button and it will automatically turn on the device and its phone's keypad. but it is not the case with atom life. is it normal? or my device has some problem? any way to fix it? tks for helping me
Hi,
No problem with my AtomLife. When my device is off in standby mode and incoming call automatic wake up my device.
i think you have misunderstood my question. mine also do not have problem when there is incoming call. what i mean is that we need to turn on the device first when we want to make phone call. in xda IIi, there is "button lock" in the setting where you can select whether you want to make any button on the device to turn on the device. i hope it is clear now. tks
IC,
XDAII have something like press any button to wakeup the device. I didn't see anything like this in Atom Life.
you're right. anyway to fix this? it's much more convinient when we can just press one button on the front face of the device (especially when you have your atom life in the leather case) to turn on the device rather than have to press the power button on the top of the device.
It is normal... Mine also like that... when turned off, you need to press on/off key to wake it up...
but i think this is a good idea to prevent the phone accidentally pressed while we put it inside a pocket or bag...
In WM2003SE, I used NoteM and, by default, it would override power settings and record until either the battery or storage space ran out. There's an option in NoteM settings to disable 03's auto power off.
This does not work in WM6 -- it powers off regardless of whether NoteM is running or not...I can only make two minute recordings and then the device shuts off. The only solution so far is to disable auto power off completely, but that is more trouble than it's worth.
Anyone else have the same problem (and a solution)??
not the solution you want, but, you can disable the power off in the device power settings.
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The only solution so far is to disable auto power off completely, but that is more trouble than it's worth.
Anyone else have the same problem (and a solution)??
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That's what I said
The biggest problem with that is if I get a call or text message, the device activates to alert me of that fact but will never shut back off...battery go bye-bye!
x_x i still sleepy, sorry, haven't read all your post.
waken up since 6AM and now it is 7PM here
No problem, thanks for trying. Get some sleep!
Should be noted that imov keeps the device alive (IIRC) and NoteM doesn't.
I just unboxed my T8285 yesterday. I charged it up and the green light came on which I assume means it's fully charged, so I put my sim card in and turned it on. It buzzes when you press the power button and when I hold it next to my speakers they make that noise that speakers make when someone's phone is ringing too close to them, so you can tell it's turned on and connecting to the network. But nothing shows up on the screen, it's as if the screen isn't turned on. Also, I tried calling myself from another phone, and it rings (it doesn't go straight to voicemail like it would if the phone were just turned off), but the device doesn't make a sound or turn the screen on like it should when it's coming out of standby. Anyone know what's happening?
Uhm, that sounds crappy... Normally by pressing the on/off button the screen should turn on/off. But then it's still weird that it doesn't turn on while calling. At the back of the phone is a small red button, this resets your device, maybe pressing that one helps?
Good luck! I hope you'll get it fixed.
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I just unboxed my T8285 yesterday. I charged it up and the green light came on which I assume means it's fully charged, so I put my sim card in and turned it on. It buzzes when you press the power button and when I hold it next to my speakers they make that noise that speakers make when someone's phone is ringing too close to them, so you can tell it's turned on and connecting to the network. But nothing shows up on the screen, it's as if the screen isn't turned on. Also, I tried calling myself from another phone, and it rings (it doesn't go straight to voicemail like it would if the phone were just turned off), but the device doesn't make a sound or turn the screen on like it should when it's coming out of standby. Anyone know what's happening?
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If you have just unboxed and experienceing these issues it sounds like a faulty device caused by either loose connections in screen/motherboard
I would return device and get replacement under warranty or to shop you purchased it.
I'm wondering if there is a way to completely stop all vibration.
I've disabled haptic feedback and vibration for the keyboard, etc. The phone still vibrates when the battery is low and it pops up telling me there is 15% battery left, and so on, until it dies at which point it still vibrates.
Does anyone know of a way, outside of ripping the vibrate motor out of the phone (lol), to completely stop any and ALL vibration?
Why?
And no, I've no idea.
I took my phone apart a few weeks ago to troubleshoot my power button. I found the vibrator is just a little button sized box. Use a Torx5 to take your phone apart and you'll see what I mean. Maybe you can just remove it with no other side effects.
If you are stock gb, have you tried going into settings, sound, vibrate and select never?