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hi,
this is my first thread here, sorry for my bad english - but i'll try my best.
i want to connect my xda2 with the 22 pin-connector for mp3 in my car.
in your conectors-page is a note:
Audio needs to be capacitively coupled in, any DC bias seems to inhibit audio
i want to ask, what c is needed here? (how many farrad, what kind of C)?
please can you give me some tipps?
is there anyone who has built such a connection? is this a good way to connect the xda2 through the car-radio, or is it better to connect via audio-jack?
my opinion: i found it very uncomfortable to connect first the audio-connector (specially in the dark), and i would be very happy if it works through the 22-pin connector.
please please...gimme a tipp.
or did anyone connect the xda2 and car-stereo without couple-c?
c'mon please, a little answer and i'll be happy.
anyone must have finished a 22pol-connector by himself, or am i wrong?
ty
frustrated...(bad first experience)...
you may be asking too much of a technical question for the cuurent people who watch this board.. i get the impression that the xda-developers site started out with a lot of smart people reverse engineering and dismantling the devices, but its now become more of a software tech support site than a hardcore HTC guru site..
Hi there sorry to hear you have had a bad experience.
as stated xda-dev no longer is as good as it used to be.
i had a quick look at the diagram and from what i can see you should not need capacitors at all.
from what i can see if you connect up pins 3 and 4 to the necessary inputs on your stereo the sound is fine.
a problem i can see however is that to get output on these pins you need to attach pin 19 to ground with a 10k resistor...but this will also redirect the microphone so you wont be able to use it as a phone whilst you have it plugged in unless you also build in a microphone (mind you this should be pretty easy if you wish to do it).
hope that helps
Tim
Hi everybody,
Today one of the Russian PDA forums was claiming Herald to have a built-in GPS (!!!) just like the one in Artemis. The only problem is that there's some contact needing to be soldered.
What do you think, is that possible?
Interesting )))) 4PDA ????
Please post more info
BackDraft said:
Interesting )))) 4PDA ????
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Yup. It was on 4PDA.
Biom Defiler said:
Yup. It was on 4PDA.
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I see )))))
gpsd possibility ??
Please send a link so we can take a look at this and research the possibility of gps.
this would be great, anyone can post a link so that we can view it and practive our russian.
best regards
any new informations?
it's a nice fact, my vpa compact 4 will come in 3 days
Wheres the link
Still waiting for the link on that gps coverage ?????
The source of the rumor is here.
But there is nothing more than was said already. Just a pure claim (speculation?), without any detalis.
The initial source says that he had heard it from a person who is an official HTC representative. No more no less. Blueprints unavailable.
I heard fm a newsgroup said that, Herald using the same radio chips as Trinity, which has GPS capability.
But the problem is, Herald doesn't have built-in GPS antenna. That may be what "soldering" needed
Herald and Trinity have different RF modules. Don't confuse it with TyTN, pls.
I've dissassembled Herald - there's no anything inside about GPS
Well.. i think every HTC has an build in GPS because the Herald uses EDGE. that's an sort of GPS so maybe if you search the internet for an edge gps converter, it will show up something promesing. but if you guys want me to contact the HTC company and ask them if the phone has an GPS, i'd do that. a friend of mine works at HTC. i can contact him.
Sry about my rubbish english. it's early in the morning.
^What?! I... wha... I'm gonna go smoke a blunt.
Even if it has GPS, where do you think we can put the antenna? I think Artemis and Herald are same from hardwer point of view.
that cant be true. in trinity there was antena and cpu with integrated gps chipset. in hermes there was same cpu with same chipset but there was no way to install antena and project was quit.
in artemis there is same cpu as in herald but this cpu is in wizard to for example (and in some smartphone) and gps isn't integrated. in artemis this is a standalone chipset which i cant find on my heralds motherboard.. and.. even if that chip is somewhere on our mb's it will not work at all because of lack of antenna.
and between gps and gprs (edge) there are "huge" diffrence...
"edge gps converter"?
and this as a bonus for them who dont belive me that omap850 doesnt have gps implementation. http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
sorry for my english :/
It was probably misread from here.
Such a large portfolio makes it difficult to differentiate individual models substantially. A quick look at the technical specifications will reveal many similarities with the HTC P3300 (Artemis) that we reviewed recently, although the devices look completely different. In short, take out the GPS module and the unique HTC RollR™ control, add a slider keyboard and voila: we can herald a new device.
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I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?
Woooooooooo!
Good news.
great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!
wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......
This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.
Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.
That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.
someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.
@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.
Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.
This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.
you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)
up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks
Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi
Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!
Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg
Hi all, there's any location where we can find the HTC Elf/in eletric scheme?
I'm just curious to know what's inside my device
Well, usually only the manufacturers have that data.
But you might want to refer to this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407323
Hey guys!
I know this has been up before, and I've read pretty much every thread regarding the non-existent TV-Out function on X1. But it has made me curious enought to want to attempt a mod if such a thing is possible.
What I understand the X1 has the hardware for TV-Out, but not the functionality implemented. So somewhere along the hardware line, the function is disabled on purpose/not enabled. Chances are, HTC saved in a few cents on the connector itself for example, and that's where the missing hardware line is
Now, most people say the X1 shares the hardware with X2, I'd like to know to what extent and if someone has pictures of an opened X2 to share, it would help out alot. Specially pictures around the 3,5mm connector and connections around it, but also the pictures of the entire mainboard.
If I can find an easy enough way to resolder some new connector/parts, I will def. do so, with full documentation over how to do it. I say harder things have been accomplished before. It all comes down to the differences/similarities in X1/X2 hardware.
PS. I might be taking water over my head here, but I'm one of those guys who got his X1 on day 1, trusting the words of SE about TV-Out, DLNA etc etc. And if there is a 10% chance to achieve this, I will try it.
Thanks for any help in advance
/Z
Come on dude you can do it :O
And if it worked i'll donate you for sure
Support you ^_^
uuh..
Hey Zoonie,
i wouldn't say it's impossible, but it's some hard piece of reverse engineering the hardware of X1.
From my point of view somebody has to rip off the MPU and the PM chip and trace the dedicated pins/signals to find out if there's a connection to these signals somewhere on the mainboard. That's the first part
Once you know how to attach some hardware to the signals, you'll need some driver code implemented to support TVout on X1
Anyway here's a basic schematic of TVout for MSM7200!
Have fun,
scholbert
Go for it! Love the effort.
Doesn't the touch pro have TV out? I would think it would be better to try to copy that, since it's the same processor and both HTC manufactured.