Hi all,
I am contemplating purchasing this ppc but i wanted to know if the secondary video call camera can be used by MSN to make video calls using the WIFI.
This would be amazing if i could,
anyone knows please help
Thanks you
the pocket msn doesnt use the camera at all
I have an X7501 (no front camera) but I think Microsoft Portrait will allow video chat. Here's the link:
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
Wow thanks, i will check it out
This might be my next phone afterall
I read a little further on this software and it seems to do everything i need it to do. it appears that i can use the secondary camera for video calls using this software via WIFI or wap connection as long as its fast enough.
You can talk to others on MSN and create video chat sessions by only sending yours, or requesting other users, or both way so both participants can see each other.
Thanks again for the link!!!!
This app should work for all PPC's although i am yet to try as i have not had a chance yet.
someguy1015 said:
I read a little further on this software and it seems to do everything i need it to do. it appears that i can use the secondary camera for video calls using this software via WIFI or wap connection as long as its fast enough.
You can talk to others on MSN and create video chat sessions by only sending yours, or requesting other users, or both way so both participants can see each other.
Thanks again for the link!!!!
This app should work for all PPC's although i am yet to try as i have not had a chance yet.
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... but doesn't appear to connect to PC's except in chat mode. Anyone else figure that out??
Doesn't recognize camera
I downloaded the MS Portrait 3.1 beta but it doesn't recognize the camera.
X7500 Front Camera Envy?
I have the X7501 and now that the X7500 is down to $960 on mobileplanet, I am going through "front camera envy." The more people who tell me this feature is useless in the USA, the better I will feel.
Is anyone using the front camera in any way here in the USA (or anywhere else for that matter)?
toyfreak said:
I have the X7501 and now that the X7500 is down to $960 on mobileplanet, I am going through "front camera envy." The more people who tell me this feature is useless in the USA, the better I will feel.
Is anyone using the front camera in any way here in the USA (or anywhere else for that matter)?
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Sending people pictures of myself?? (once)
wgary said:
Sending people pictures of myself?? (once)
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The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.
In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.
I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.
I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.
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mahjong
mahjong said:
The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.
In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.
I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.
I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.
Best Regards,
mahjong
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Very few options for videoconferencing in the US. I've been searching... Is this built into your cellphone plan?
mahjong said:
The camera is for videoconferencing in 3G technology.
In the middle of the conversation you can change the image you are sending from the front camera to the rear camera so you can show the person you are talking something in front of you (back of the X7500). For sample when I'm talking to someone I can show that person the landscape I'm seeing. Or if some one want to report a computer error just change to the rear camera a point it to the PC screen and shows me the error.
I don't know... there are many samples where videoconferencing is a good posibility for the X7500.
I wasn't aware that the US taste of HTC Advantage, the X7501, got no videoconferencing.
Best Regards,
mahjong
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Good point ,mahjong. I know of a car body dent touch up guy who asked his prospective client with video conference phone to show him the dent and give quotation over the phone without having to physically travel to their house to inspect the dent.
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Very few options for videoconferencing in the US. I've been searching... Is this built into your cellphone plan?
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Man I'm from Europe and I'm not aware about how cellphone systems works in the States. Sorry.
In my case, in Spain, the 3 mayor providers got data plans and videoconferencing is considered data connections so goes in that plan.
But I can tell you at least in Spain and I think in the whole Europe since we share the same 3G technology (called UMTS) the videoconferencing on cellphones is being used much and much more everyday.
Now the European providers are instaling 3,5G technology called HSDPA which give you more bandwidth on the same prices so I guess video calls is a winning bet.
UMTS is 384 kbps and HSDPA us around 3.6 mbps bandwidth, just for you to know.
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mahjong
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Man I'm from Europe and I'm not aware about how cellphone systems works in the States. Sorry.
In my case, in Spain, the 3 mayor providers got data plans and videoconferencing is considered data connections so goes in that plan.
But I can tell you at least in Spain and I think in the whole Europe since we share the same 3G technology (called UMTS) the videoconferencing on cellphones is being used much and much more everyday.
Now the European providers are instaling 3,5G technology called HSDPA which give you more bandwidth on the same prices so I guess video calls is a winning bet.
UMTS is 384 kbps and HSDPA us around 3.6 mbps bandwidth, just for you to know.
Best Regards,
mahjong
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Mahjong:
You're making all of us in the USA very jealous!
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Mahjong:
You're making all of us in the USA very jealous!
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Hmmm We don't have TacoBell in Spain yet... That's sucks about my country!!!
ha ha ha ha ha ;-)
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Hmmm We don't have TacoBell in Spain yet... That's sucks about my country!!!
ha ha ha ha ha ;-)
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I feel your pain. For a "world leader in technology," the US seems to consistently fall behind the curve. But then we have to make sure that our big telcos can extract maximal money from the consumers while delivering minimal service.
dxf289 said:
I downloaded the MS Portrait 3.1 beta but it doesn't recognize the camera.
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does it mean it wouldn't work with the front camera? i'm trying to decide if i want to get the 7500 or 7501.
has anyone else try this?
thanks
eva
you all seem to have missed the true purpose of the front camera, shows your ages
it's obviously so you can see when you're trimming your nasal hair...
video conferencing, phooey! what will they think of next?
fards said:
you all seem to have missed the true purpose of the front camera, shows your ages
it's obviously so you can see when you're trimming your nasal hair...
video conferencing, phooey! what will they think of next?
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Heh, what a great idea... I've been meaning to buy a new shaving mirror, now I don't have to!
(I'll be on here next week, complaining that i dropped my Ameo into a sink full of soapy water....)
they better release a secondary mini usb cam for those x7501 users without the front cam.
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Why arent these features implemented? This device is no reason for me to change, cause i´m an owner of a magician.
Only the keypad and wlan aren´t enough arguments to change.
Does anybody know an comparable device with 3G & video in this formfactor at the moment?
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Flubex
O2 XDA Exec
Yes the O2 XDA exec shortly to be released has 3G and videocommunications,
Regards Ash'e
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Yes the O2 XDA exec shortly to be released has 3G and videocommunications,
Regards Ash'e
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This is not in the same formfactor he asked for...
The CDMA version of the Wizard (the Apache) has 3G (EVDO). It doesn't have video conferencing though.
Didnt think this was a 3g phone any way... and tbh what exactly does 3g give us... high speed data... ok cool.... but WIFI will be quicker... oh and vid confrencing... wow.... when everybody has it on landlines - may be... until then I strugle to find a use for picture messaging let a lone video..
Even my 2G phone ( Motorola 720i ) does me for work... and I work from home.
Also has any one thought that there may be 'business reasons' not to have a camera... I know of a few - namly security in some situations.
Terran
( Sorry for the rant .... just sort of came out... my point was does it matter that you cant vid conf... if thats what you want get a Universal... this I think is aimed at the middle market the same as the Wizard and thats never IMHO been marketed as a top of the range phone - mearly one that does a lot ).
The upcoming HTC Hermes model will have a front-facing video camera and a rear-facing megapixel camera, plus 3G (non-USA-friendly UMTS again like the JASJAR, I'm assuming).
So, the JASJAR had the videoconferencing you wanted, but the size you wanted in the Wizard, hold out for the Hermes coming out the first half of 2006.
is there a software to enable video calls on wizard?
wifiuk said:
is there a software to enable video calls on wizard?
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http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
Very interesting...
Just having a play with this. i had no idea such a program existed...
theres potential in this....I just don't know what
Lewis
Cool link hiimcliff. this is what i was looking for a year ago for my old ipaq. but now ill try it on my wizard and hope it works
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http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
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Excellent link. I will give it a shot.
If someone already tested it, please post your results.
Paulo
Now if there was only a way to have the input present as a standard webcam interface (much in the way SplitCam does it). Then you'd have a wireless camera you could use with MSN, Skype and other such vido calling applications.
Lewis
good link. Thanks.
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http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
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cheers thanks for the link
i meant for video calling mobile phones
The camera's on the back, the screen is on the front. Either you could see the other person and they'd get a picture of your feet or they'd see your ugly mug and you couldn't see them. What would be the point?
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i meant for video calling mobile phones
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This will allow you to make calls mobile to mobile, however it would have to be over GPRS or WiFi. However as supershisa points out you wouldn't want to. I suspect your asking if the Wizard can do 3G, which it cannot.
The camera's on the back, the screen is on the front. Either you could see the other person and they'd get a picture of your feet or they'd see your ugly mug and you couldn't see them. What would be the point?
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You could make every call in front of a mirror....
Lewis
supershisa said:
The camera's on the back, the screen is on the front. Either you could see the other person and they'd get a picture of your feet or they'd see your ugly mug and you couldn't see them. What would be the point?
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its experimental. and its cool.
besides its not microsofts fault. its the phones fault for the position of the camera. the software is not only for the wizard. its for all pocket pc's with a camera.
ok well i have the sprint touch... and i love to slingbox to it. THe sports are really choppy but i mean im getting a 300-500 kpbs connection all the time. So i know the speed is fine. I set motion to high on the settings, but... still its rlly choppy. I heard it was a directdraw problem, and is there anyway to fix it. Possibly on the Slingbox end or? what? or spm program, or a hack to wm6 to make it go to another codec, or just a fix in general for wm6??? anyone???
Buy a phone not made by a garbage company like HTC.
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Buy a phone not made by a garbage company like HTC.
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Says the guy who owns a Touch
aint nothing wrong with HTC!!! its the bloody software thats on them.... grrrs to M$.
When is there gonna be a XDA-Devs FULL ROM (i.e. started from scratch )
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aint nothing wrong with HTC!!! its the bloody software thats on them.... grrrs to M$.
When is there gonna be a XDA-Devs FULL ROM (i.e. started from scratch )
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Not bloody microsoft, its htc who did not implement the right drivers for directdraw.
gr. bram
bram_smulders said:
Not bloody microsoft, its htc who did not implement the right drivers for directdraw.
gr. bram
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I agree to you
prodinho said:
Says the guy who owns a Touch
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And who knows how crappy a company HTC is. Figure it out.
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And who knows how crappy a company HTC is. Figure it out.
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I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
flykthewiz said:
I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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I wish that I could be as smart as you. Too bad you don't know that it was HTC who decided not to include the correct drivers with their WM6 phones.
Please don't make me teach you the differences between GSM and CDMA networks.
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I wish that I could be as smart as you. Too bad you don't know that it was HTC who decided not to include the correct drivers with their WM6 phones.
Please don't make me teach you the differences between GSM and CDMA networks.
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I am not getting into a discussion over this!!! What I was saying is that there are so many people complaining about HTC yet we all still have them so we must like them.
Either stop winging about it and accept that HTC have got a number of things wrong or go and get something else!!
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I am not getting into a discussion over this!!! What I was saying is that there are so many people complaining about HTC yet we all still have them so we must like them.
Either stop winging about it and accept that HTC have got a number of things wrong or go and get something else!!
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So if you have a girlfriend and that you didn't know was a ***** before she became your girlfriend, you still have to like her?
No way man.. I'll f*ck with her as much as I want then I'm getting a new one. LOL
Same goes with my phone.
I won't go with "we all still have them so we must like them" crap.
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I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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Um, you can mod the iPhone and it's amazing. Blows my slow Tilt away. Glad I use both cause this Tilt is the size and shape of what its almost good for. Paper weight!
Back to the topic at hand...
I don't know how the encoding of the slingbox works, and if you can modify the encoding settings, but i managed to stream from via VLC with the following scenario:
My Dreambox -> My PC (VLC Transcoding to qVga) -> Internet -> WiFi -> HTC Herald (VLC Client).
I don't remember the bitrate when i tested it, but my connection at home caps at 256Kb upload, so that means the stream was on a somewhat lower bitrate.
If you can modify the Slingbox encoding settings and play with them, maybe drop the quality somewhat shouldn't you be able to view the stream?
ps. if something above doesn't make sense, i just woke up
flykthewiz said:
I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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lul @ gay..
dude, there's golden era ppc world besides htc stuff, too.
problem is, that usually, htc machines are crap with omap or samsung cpus.
all bout that.
It seems like my (newish) HTC Touch Rom with WM6.1 doesn't use DirectDraws at all.
I did some remote debugging on it, and while I am not a mobile programmer all indications were that this was a sigificant change from WM 6.0. (I.e. call stacks during video playback newer show directDraw, while in the past they did).
Personally I really like my Vogue. It seems to get the most trash talk of all of the HTC's, but it works for my needs tastes better than anything else I have owned.
To be fair, my last phone was back in the WM5 days, so that last statement is not exactly a fair coparison.
How is it possible to video chat using HD2, since there is not front side camera and how can we see other end's video?
its not possible
Richy99 said:
its not possible
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I thought you could use the main camera as the video camera, at least when a new dialler comes out anyway?
Yea, this is the most disipointing act from HTC. Its like removing the ability to sms
PhoTonic said:
Yea, this is the most disipointing act from HTC. Its like removing the ability to sms
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I think there's a MASSIVE difference between sending SMS and video calling. The majority of people on this forum, before the HD2 came out, had agreed that it was a bit strange, but they could live without it. The majority of people also admitted that they'd only ever used video calling once or twice, and that was just to play with it.
I think you may have exaggerated slightly!
Oh.. and wait for the obvious childish post of "They did remove the ability to sms"
If you are running android you can download Tango and video chat using main camera. you just need a mirror.
masondoctorjt said:
If you are running android you can download Tango and video chat using main camera. you just need a mirror.
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This works. i tested it earlier
videocall now works i can do video call but camera don't work only recive video from other but not send video as there is problems the tp2 dialer does not recognise the hd2 camera , please i wand developers help
No, the HD2 don't have a forward facing camera and HTC has better things to do.
hollinshead said:
No, the HD2 don't have a forward facing camera and HTC has better things to do.
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the first nokia 6630 only have back 1.3 mpix camera and it was capable of video call
hoss_n2 said:
the first nokia 6630 only have back 1.3 mpix camera and it was capable of video call
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How would you see the other person if the screen was facing away from you?
you'd have to carry a compact mirror...
like a woman...
quasi_mojo said:
you'd have to carry a compact mirror...
like a woman...
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rofl... thats a very good one XD.
quasi_mojo said:
you'd have to carry a compact mirror...
like a woman...
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no need to make fun of me ,iam not playing here
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How would you see the other person if the screen was facing away from you?
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the benifit of videocalling is not to see your face only ,you may need to show some one a thing when shopping or doing any thing before doing it ,video conference is only one benfit of it
dual post .................
There is very little point in video call without seeing the other persons face.
I understand where your coming from with needing to show someone something.
But I've never ever needed to show someone something that badly..
It would be nice, but we'd never use it.
lonelykatana said:
There is very little point in video call without seeing the other persons face.
I understand where your coming from with needing to show someone something.
But I've never ever needed to show someone something that badly..
It would be nice, but we'd never use it.
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I agree, plus, if the other person can video call (Which is also expensive), they likely have a phone that will accept a picture message or a video message that our HD2's can send (And with good quality results too, better quality that front facing cameras too).
Without a front facing camera I can't see the point either.
Basically there is so little demand that unless HTC were getting hammered with requests I doubt they'd do something about it.
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Basically there is so little demand that unless HTC were getting hammered with requests I doubt they'd do something about it.
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can we do it by our selves (take drivers and activate it) ,and does any one tried activating it
The SE W950 which didnt have camera at all had video call.
the person that cald you coud see your picture, an you could see his/her video stream.
is it pointles, I dont think soo
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the benifit of videocalling is not to see your face only ,you may need to show some one a thing when shopping or doing any thing before doing it ,video conference is only one benfit of it
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to show someone something i can put the call on hold, take a picture -> send it via mail/mms, and then carry on talking. hence, no need for video calling
ON MY REGION IT IS VERY CHEAP TO MAKE VIDEOCALL THAN SENDING MMS videocall is as expensive as normal call on my country ,so better for me to havevideo call
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ON MY rEGION IT IS VERY CHEAP TO MAKE VIDEOCALL THAN SENDING MMS videocall is as expensive as normal call on my country ,so better for me to havevideo call
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OH OK! NO NEED TO SHOUT!
naa I joke you
lonelykatana said:
OH OK! NO NEED TO SHOUT!
naa I joke you
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I wasnot shouting i , forgot to close the cabs lock
Here is how to do it:
- install "HTC Dialer disabler (MS Dialer enabler).cab"
- soft reset
- install "Rhodium dialer.cab"
- soft reset
Now you should have the video call option in your dialer.
Here in Macedonia we have cheap video calls and indeed it's cheaper than sending mms. As I work in one of the mobile operators I get unlimited video calls for free. So I really miss it
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Here is how to do it:
- install "HTC Dialer disabler (MS Dialer enabler).cab"
- soft reset
- install "Rhodium dialer.cab"
- soft reset
Now you should have the video call option in your dialer.
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have you tested it and you could make video call ,or only we get the option without being abled to be used and how to return the original dialler