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my internet connection keeps hanging. tytn on orange uk

hey,
i have a tytn that doesn't have any orange customisation (for the first time i almost wish it did!).
for some reason my umts/gprs connection seems to hang. it looks like it's still connected but it isn't. sometimes it's just a case of resetting the connection in comm manager and at it's work i have to soft reset!
anyone else suffer this? if so, how did you fix it?
cheers

I'd say everyone suffers from it. The reason it's not reported/discussed/solved is because most people don't require constant data connectivity and therefore never discover the problem.
I just posted about this problem yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297002
So far it seems to be a problem related to WM itself since it affects different devices.

thanks for the response, but maybe I should make myself clearer.
i've had an spv m500 and m600 and never experienced this.
when I say it hang I don't mean after a significant amount of time. this happens about every 10 minutes! as you can imagine this is incredibly frustrating!

Does it do this if you select gsm only rather than auto?

may be a silly question, but how do I change it?

gibster said:
may be a silly question, but how do I change it?
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Start>Settings>Personal>Phone Icon>Band Tab and here you can choose GSM and certain bands only instead of auto.
Mike

if you find this does help, then you might want to look at
http://commmgrpro.com/_wsn/page3.html
which is a little app which will switch from band to band from your today screen.

thanks marisa! a neat little app!
anyway, it seems to not hang on gsm. is 3G unstable? or is it my device?

Lots and lots of people seem to have one kind of problem or another with 3G.
I personally think that these devices have problems with switching from one to the other as signals become stronger & weaker, and that's when connections get dropped etc.
I discovered this when trying to use MSN messenger to give me a kind of push email on hotmail. It worked, but only while logged in to messenger, and when the connection dropped, so did the log in!
So, now I'm always connected by gsm, and when I really want to download something quickly etc etc, I switch over to 3g and then back again.
A bit tedious, but at least I know that when I think I'm connected I am!

good answer! it's kinda what i'm thinking now! hell, if the thing is in my pocket should I really care that the d/l speed is whack! like you said I think in future i'll gsm when my device is not in my hands and 3G when i'm browsing!
thanks a lot for the heads up on that app and your advice!

No probs, I've solved most of my issues through this forum, now on the Hermes, and before on the XDA IIi. You'll find it does wonders for your battery life too!

Need GPS functionality without Phone Service

I will be out of the country without Sprint coverage, but I need my GPS to function.
Last time I went out of the country the GPS could never get a fix because the phone didn't have coverage.
Isn't there a registry setting allowing GPS functionality without phone coverage?
Thanks

Uhh, I could always get a lock when I had my phone in Flight Mode...
But then again, I'm on Verizon and not running an official sprint rom.
What ROM/Radio/etc are you using?
EDIT: But yeah, i think there is a setting (GPSMode) in the registry, which u can change from Assisted to Autonomous or whatever, where it's not Assisted GPS anymore; stand-alone mode basically

Alright sorry for the double-post, but I want to make you aware that I just tested it in Flight Mode and with certain settings, it won't lock well on the radio I'm using (3.42.40), but with the right settings, and a little bit of patience (about 2 min in my case), it will lock.
The following are my registry settings (that matter)
HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS
EnableAGPS=1
EnableGPSSmartMode=1
GPSMode=0
ServerIP=172.25.8.100
ServerPort=7788
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I hope this helps you. Enjoy your trip.

I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.

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I'm somewhat confused by those settings. They are probably right but it seems counter intuitive and I am trying to understand.
I would think that you'd want to EnableAGPS to be 0. Then it wouldn't try to reach the cell towers or internet site. Right? But maybe the GPSMode=0 resolves that. And if it does the IP and Port should be irrelevent. Especially if the idea is to make sure it doesn't try to connect to the internet.
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Correct, I had troubles when i set EnableAGPS to 0, i think it turned off the GPS entirely.
And GPSMode=0 is autonomous mode or whatever.
For more info, see http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=28049

Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.

BrianLayman said:
Cool. Thanks for the extra info. Interesting that the EnableAGPS=0 breaks stuff...
Forums are much more interesting when people are willing to actually talk and not drop into Defensiveniess/flamewars instantly! I appreciate your response.
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You're welcome. I was willing to do it after I backed up because I was having strange GPS issues the past few days and I wanted to see if I could get things rolling normally again. Someone said that this mode works better for geocaching too, so that's another reason why I wanted to try it.
Now I just need to find a better selection of software for my device; I'm still not happy with HTC Home, need to find a good replacement that doesn't rape the screen in landscape mode.

Wifi is flakey at some APs

I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris

Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...

iamchrismoran said:
I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris
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I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.

timm9 said:
Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...
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Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris

jambrose said:
I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.
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I think of doing that often... but well... I don't have a but. WEP is hackable, but feels secure enough , considering I have a bunch of secure APs in my neighborhood... some obscurity helps as well.
I know that sometimes if I restart my AP (linksys wrt54g) the xv6800 will just find it and connect on it's own.
Chris

There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working. If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.

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There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working.
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Haha... yeah, that's what's so frustrating. So many people getting it to work and me not. I'm no dolt. I follow directions quite well.
If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the
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I have 3.42.something new within the last two months. My first attempt was with the DCD. Nada.
As for finding available access points, at my friend's place, it just shows it listed as unavailable. At home, it will SEE it and even attempt to connect, but often fails, except for those random times when it will connect.
one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.
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Hm... will it maintain the lock with the wifi turned back on afterward? The whole point is to be able to use gmaps with the GPS. I can install other s/w that has it's own maps as well, bypassing the need for the wifi, but for starters, getting GPS working first is important.
It's a verizon phone, but I don't have service turned on yet. I'm not going to switch my number over until I'm happy with how it's set up. I do not intend on using a data plan - too expensive, so wifi when in range and other gps s/w when I'm not will be used.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I have taken some serious time with this. The nice thing is that I don't have to rush, so I've tried MANY different things from the forums and even the PPCgeeks IRC channel. If I practice any more patience, I'll be sleeping.
Chris

iamchrismoran said:
Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris
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That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.

worwig said:
That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.
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I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.

It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.

Sweeny Russ said:
It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.
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I've never seen it written anywhere that one would be required to have a data connection with the service provider to get a GPS lock. Seems ridiculous to me. If I wanted to pay for a data connection, then why the heck not just pay for the VZ Navigator access??
I've never seen aGPS as a requirement either. If all the tuts were about aGPS, I'd see that having that data connection was important. Boy, I sure could use a definitive on this. If I KNOW for fact that GPS just doesn't work without a data connection, I'd have to suck it up and get an external bluetooth GPS device if I care enough. I have believed however all along that the whole point was to access GPS hardware without incurring data charges.
thanks,
Chris

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
its not the mogul, but same idea.

iamchrismoran said:
I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.
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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.

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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.
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TOTALLY reasonable question.
I will use the phone when I have it set how I like it.
I got it so I could have a reasonably convenient way to freely check my email and surf when in wifi range without needing to lug my laptop around with me. I got a good price on it, much cheaper than an actual laptop.
Nice sized screen for when I want to actually watch a ripped movie or TV show and the option to install other software on a whim to have with me is just great. I got a ppc that can be a phone essentially. I'm not a phone person, too cheap to pay for a text plan, but wifi is key. The ability to open this phone up for GPS use was a major factor in picking it from lots of research before diving in.

Google latitude

Anybody got this working on the hero?
I saw it on the gadget show where the presenter was seeing her friends current position (who was carrying a gps enabled phone) on her pc in real time and she was able to see where she was going etc.
Now i have paired up the pc and my hero but when looking at my profile on the pc it gives my position of a day ago or 23 hours ago!
Is it possible to see in "real time" or is it only able to see past locations?
Thanks in advance
Gaz

It's working right out of the box for me.

I've been using it since I got my hero.
It works great, I can see all my mates on it in real-time too!
Make sure you've set it up properly...

I set it up on igoogle on my laptop and just added a friend(my hero) and thats all i did. but like i say it doesn't show in real time!
Is there anything in particular i should check for?
Thanks
Gaz

I don't think so, since Latitude worked for me right out of the box, as I got my Hero (before it I was using Latitude on a Windows Mobile device). No configuration was needed at all.

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I don't think so, since Latitude worked for me right out of the box, as I got my Hero (before it I was using Latitude on a Windows Mobile device). No configuration was needed at all.
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Hmm. No special requirements are needed from the laptop or anything? Just seems strange.I can pair with the laptop ok but it always shows onw day ago???????
Gaz

Google Latitude works fine for me.
Not in realtime but it works
realtime would mean everyone have to update their location all the time with enabled GPS. oh god my battery

Gazaman said:
Hmm. No special requirements are needed from the laptop or anything? Just seems strange.I can pair with the laptop ok but it always shows onw day ago???????
Gaz
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Latitude works regardless of the device running it: if a GPS receiver il available you'll get the maximum precision, on a regular phone your location will be fixed out (rather well, to be honest) using WiFi hotspots well-known location, carrier geolocation (if available and applicable) and a number of other less obvious methods.
So, on your Hero it'll work using GPS, WiFi or cell tower location: a laptop is not required.
So, if Latitude isn't working for you I can suggest a double-check at its website, looking for some wrong setting. Please note that you'll have to explicitly activate your location sharing, as it's turned off by default. See here: http://www.google.com/latitude/apps/badge

oooops.............schoolboy error!!!
My calendar was out by a day hence being out by 24hrs....Sorry guys but didn't feel the need to check as it shouldn't be wrong
Do i keep having to refresh the page then to see where it is?
Sorry once again folks
Gaz

[Q] Help troubleshooting patchy data connection

Hey guys, hoping for some help here
I'm using the best Sense-based EU ROM I've ever come across and I really, really, really don't want to change ROM. The ROM I'm using is Korand's Incredible S build, development of which has been pretty much discontinued as far as I can see. Here's a link to it.
I don't want to say the data doesn't work on the ROM, because it sometimes does, and it's not an issue with my hardware as I've used other, laggier ROMs where data has worked fine. It's not an APN issue as I've checked and triple checked them. I've tried with three different radios (2.15, 2.14, 2.12) and have had similar results with all three.
Basically, what happens is:
- I go to use something using data, like the browser, facebook, bbc news etc
- The data icon shows downloading and uploading on 3G. Nothing happens. It switches to HSDPA and shows uploading, then stops. It switches back to 3G, then stops.
- Sometimes, if I'm lucky at this point, it will switch back to HSDPA, show downloading and uploading, and let me do what I want to do. This generally takes 15 seconds or more.
- Most of the time, I have to disable and re-enable the data connection to get it to work.
I don't understand, because obviously the phone can get a data connection, it just takes a long ass time and is a lot slower/patchier than other ROMs. But I really don't want to change ROMs, as apart from this data issue Korand's build is perfect for me.
Can somebody give me a hand troubleshooting this? I'd really appreciate it and am willing to donate a beer if somebody can help me get it fixed
cheers,
zuka

...Anyone?

zukа said:
...Anyone?
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Can anybody just point me in the right direction?

zukа said:
Can anybody just point me in the right direction?
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Checks your APN's are correct.
It looks to me like you have erroneous information in your APN's. Ensure they are exactly how your network provider suggests.
It might also be worth deleting every single APN that exists in the list and starting your data and mms off from scratch.
I just did exactly that due to issues I was having with O2 MMS.