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Guys and gals, I hope you all follow the General forum here at XDA-Dev
If you don’t (PLEASE DO FOLLOW IT! I only post most of my articles in there and, generally, do not post announcements in model-specific subforums – you don’t know what you miss!), and would like to know everything one can know about remotely controlling desktop Windows PC’s from Pocket PC’s, read THIS ARTICLE - I'm absolutely sure you'll find it useful!
Brilliant, Menneisyys.
Another very detailed report, that I have not read yet but just scanned through quickly. Thought it worth reporting my (our) thanks for your time, effort and incredible attention to detail.
Grateful Thanks
Mike
yea Menneisyys u have no idea, how much we appreciate ur time an efforts.
keep writing =)
WOW!! AWESOME work!! I can't find the words to say how much I appreciate it
Wow... just posting to record my shock and awe! Great writeup... They pay people to do (a much worse job at) that you know
Thanks guys! I really love feedback like this
Amazing article. Very detailed, really appreciate.
I have Remote Administrator (RAdmin) installed on my PC, been 2 years have had problem accessing it from another PC. Now I'm still fickle minded about switching to VNC. RAdmin was great over the net and lan.
awesome work indeed. Before reading your post I had heard about LogMeIn, but never did the effort to check it. Now I use the Pro version and it is soooo cooooool...
Exactly what I needed. Thank you once again for your effort.
Thanks for the help its all totally appreciated
Thank you guys; btw, I've also reposted the article to the XDA-Dev Wiki.
UPDATE (01/05/2007): Readers’ feedback:
XDA-Developers 1 2, AximSite, BrightHand, FirstLoox, HowardForums.
AximSite frontpage; Clinton Fitch's recommendation in microsoft.public.pocketpc.
In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
V J said:
In this post, you mention that XP does not support concurrent terminal sessions.
There is a way to achieve this though; in the last beta of SP2, concurrent terminal sessions were allowed but this feature was removed in the final release of SP2. By replacing the termserv.dll with the termserv.dll from that final beta and adjusting some settings, concurrent sessions become a possibility agaian (with a limitation of 3 concurrent users: 1 local + 2 remote).
Here is the procedure on how to do it:
http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/
I haven't tested it yet with my WM5 device, but it works perfectly when I run a rdp session from my laptop to my desktop.
Bear in mind that the .dll that comes from the last SP2 beta can get replaced by Windows update; should it stop working after an update, just replace it again.
Jörg
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Thanks for the report; I've played a lot with this hack and found out that you can't use the same account - that is, you can't co-edit the same remote session. Are you sure you connected with a (locally) already-connected user?
Updated version posted; for the time being (because of the hurdles involved with cutting the article into 10k slices), to http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1571&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 only.
No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
Jorg
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No, that is not possible (didn't think I gave that impression).
There is a way of creating a second acount that uses a different loginname (so it can be used concurrently) but shares the profile (folders + startmenu) with another account, but I haven't gone that far. I would have to search for it in case you are interested.
Jorg
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Yup, with the hack, it (logging in from other accounts) does work - but, still, there won't be a way of parallelly accessing the same desktop, cursor, app windows.
Pocket PC-to-desktop PC remote control news
In the Bible of Accessing your desktop PC from your Pocket PC, I’ve elaborated on how you can access your PC from anywhere using your Pocket PC.
Now, there are some updates / welcome news:
First, Citrix offers GoToMyPC for $8.25/month ($99 a year) to ex-GoToMyPC users (users that used the service a trial period that, after that, didn’t subscribe to the commercial version). This price (which is half of the regular price) is starting to be pretty good if you definitely need the solution that consumes the least bandwidth.
That is, if you would like to subscribe to GoToMyPC, it’s the best to let the trial period to run out, wait some time and, then, you’ll be offered the 50% rebate.
Second, Parys Technografx, the developer of by far the best VNC client for the Pocket PC, hasn’t been busy; they have just come out with version 1.2 of PT Pocket Office with a lot of welcome additions / fixes I’ve asked for; for example,
Auto selection of a compatible encoding e.g. if PT Pocket Office is set to request "tight" but the server does not support it then the first compatible encoding will automatically be used instead - e.g. "Hextile" with RealVNC.
The "Server Scaling On" or "Server Scaling Off" option has been changed to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" or "RealVNC/TightVNC" and if a connection is attempted to RealVNC or TightVNC or another VNC server without server-scaling when the option is set to "PTeSVNC/UltraVNC" then PT Pocket Office now automatically detects this and adjusts accordingly.
It will now connect and work with RealVNC4.x provided that the "RFB 3.3" option is selected in the "Legacy" options for the RealVNC server. (The developer promises to make it possible to connect to RealVNC servers in the 4.x mode in the near future.)
The file transfer works OK for you with the latest UltraVNC.
Also note that I’m working VERY hard on the multimedia remote control roundup, comparing ALL the available titles. Hope I’ll be able to publish it in this or next week.
I've finished updating the Remote Access Bible with brand new, never-before-published-by-anyone comparative information on the new, built-in, excellent Remote Desktop Mobile client in Windows Mobile 6.
Now that the new, 4.0 version of well-known, useful remote controller application PPC Tablet supports remote desktop access, I've thoroughly benchmarked & compared it to the alternatives in my Remote Access Bible. (Note that the article itself will only be updated tomorrow; now it's "only" the heart of the article, the comparison chart has been updated with PPC Tablet 4.0-related info. (Yes, before you ask: I'll really soon publish my multimedia remote controller roundup; I've found it useful to publish the strictly remote desktop-related PPC Tablet 4-related info before finally publishing the next article.)
It's really worth checking it out if you'd like to know how it compares to the alternatives and in what scenarios it should be used (it has major, mostly bandwidth usage-related problems; still, in some cases, it might turn out to be useful).
Finally, I also recommend this remote desktop access-related post in the microsoft.public.pocketpc newsgroup; it may turn out to be useful for many.
At last, a REALLY decent RDP (Terminal Server) client for WM5!
In the Remote Desktop Access Bible, I've promised I would announce when the excellent folks over at H/PC Factor manage to port the excellent Terminal Server client from WindowsCE .NET to Windows Mobile.
Fortunately, the porting attempts have been successful (albeit not at H/PC Factor but at XDA-Developers); see this thread for more information. Note that the port ONLY runs on WM5, NOT on previous operating systems.
Make sure you check it out if you need a DECENT RDP client (instead of the, to put it mildly, far-from-perfect built-in Terminal Services Client) on your WM5 Windows Mobile device.
hello all and congrats on the new forum
the android in its current state is quite a poor business phone compared to winmo6.1 for a few reasons. can you all chip in in identifying the areas of weakness just to help out developers who want to do something about it
ill start by mentioning the obvious things to me
1. no exchange mail support with search server and html mail(maybe a roadsync port is needed)
2. no mention of vpn support
3. the join domain feature of wm6.1 was kinda useful to some
4. the only platform that can access our eap-tls network in wm5/6.
5. not sure its a big thing, but maybe a basic firewall is needed.
6. an option less integration with gmail (not good for corporations who have security concerns)
7. reader/editor for office 2k7 documents
8. remote desktop (windows, osX, linux)
9. maybe bundling all the buisness features as a single software pack (that does not need to be included with all sold phones if not many people are intrested) this will simplify development and updates.
10. out of box wirless 3g/edge modem or something similar to WiFiRouter.
that's what i can think of for now. feel free to repost this in a more visible android forum
well then don't get it
whats with the hostility. I'm just trying to make android a more attractive platform by highlighting its business shortcomings.
if we can get developers interested in developing these kind of apps early in its life to make it more corporate friendly it would be great.
taking care of business and core features are far more important than cool 'n' pointless apps that the iphone seems to be handling pretty well.
more stuff:
8. remote desktop (windows, osX, linux)
9. maybe bundling all the business features as a single software pack (that does not need to be included with all sold phones if not many people are interested) this will simplify development and updates.
10. out of box wireless 3g/edge modem or something similar to WiFiRouter.
since it's linux I have no doubt that most of your worries will be addressed. I know Linux has a remote desktop app but the question is will the android run non-java apps? Will it have GCC and some libs? Can we download GCC and some libs to our microSDHC cards? Will SSH work? Will the android GUI have X11-like network support? I am not much of a programmer but if the android has gcc and libs I will be doing some compiling of linux apps.
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since it's linux I have no doubt that most of your worries will be addressed. I know Linux has a remote desktop app but the question is will the android run non-java apps? Will it have GCC and some libs? Can we download GCC and some libs to our microSDHC cards? Will SSH work? Will the android GUI have X11-like network support? I am not much of a programmer but if the android has gcc and libs I will be doing some compiling of linux apps.
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Im about 95% certain that all apps run inside android's java environment. Therefore any existing opensource application would have to be ported over to the specifications of android's java language.
Android as an operating system is just a linux executable binary. Think of it like X server. Android is just a GUI, but as of now everything that runs in that GUI has to be specifically written for android.
It may be possible to run seperate tty sessions... and that could allow you to run some sort of server in the background behind android that you could access from inside of android via a web browser (http://127.0.0.1 aka localhost style)
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Im about 95% certain that all apps run inside android's java environment. Therefore any existing opensource application would have to be ported over to the specifications of android's java language.
Android as an operating system is just a linux executable binary. Think of it like X server. Android is just a GUI, but as of now everything that runs in that GUI has to be specifically written for android.
It may be possible to run seperate tty sessions... and that could allow you to run some sort of server in the background behind android that you could access from inside of android via a web browser (http://127.0.0.1 aka localhost style)
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yeah... that's what I thought. I was hoping that wasn't the case.... I can dream right? Maybe it will be like the Zaurus all over again and we can write an X11 environment for it.
Nr. 1, the Exchange feature was mentioned at the launch, and the official answer was "we expect developers to provide applications for that". I think that also applies to the VPN part; since it's that open and that linux-ish, there will probably be lots of VPN/VNC/RDP/SSH clients available.
3 and 4, I don't even know what they are. Stuck in a Windows-based environment, with closed specs ? tough luck. That's vendor lock-in, you know.
5 - a firewall ? what for ? Your device won't be permanently connected, and you probably won't have lots of apps listening on your phone. Anyway, a filtering module will probably appear pretty soon. I'd be more worried about installed apps making hidden outgoing connections (apps calling home, or malicious apps), therefore a good app to have would be something similar to LittleSnitch.
6 - Google has service offerings for businesses, so you either choose to use their services, or you don't. If you don't like it, you shouldn't use this phone I guess
7 - the feature will appear for sure, at least the viewer part. Not hoping of a OpenOffice port for Android, though.
This phone actually doesn't look like it was built for business use, though; just take a look at the apps who won the contest, all of them are focused on fun, socializing, location-awareness and stuff that's useful to people, not business users.
Hmm, to follow up on the Office part:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/smartphones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210604042
"We expect it to be more for the consumer, not necessarily for enterprises," says Cole Brodman, chief technology and innovation officer at T-Mobile USA.
The 4.6-by-2.1-by-0.6-inch handset, which will go on sale in the United States on Oct. 22, will let users view Word and Excel documents as well as PDFs.
a few points:
a*you didnt coment on 8-10
b*the exchange feature needs licencing from mirosoft. i doubt the development comunity can do that. unless some genius cracks the airsync protocol
c*if you are on gprs/edge/3g then the phone is Always connected to the network. that why we have things like pushmail.
d*eap-tls is the most secure type of wirless access. and it uses certificates on both the server and client. the client normally needs to be part of the domain to be able to accept the certificate
e*almost all corporations are locked down to windows. its very imortant that buisness phones integrates very well with them if it were to be considered a buisness phones
f*dont you agree that having a buisness friendly is important for the sucess of any phone platform?
g* do you think that the lack of stylus or (resistive lcd) will hinder its ability to do remote desktop? the track ball thingy enough?
Most of the above points (1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9) will most likely be addressed by developers and sysadmins in good time. In the case of Exchange, even if the platform is opensource, it doesn't mean that a 3rd party company can't license the technology to provide a solution. It might not be pretty (at first), but I wouldn't say it's impossible.
5. It depends on what specific vulnerabilities you're concerned about, whether on the app/run level or somewhere in the core Android stack. In general I doubt there's any issue that doesn't already exist on other mobile OSes, and given their respective solutions, the same is possible here. But if you have a specific concern in mind it would help to point it out.
6, 9. Google is certainly pushing its suite of apps and for good reason (because a lot of consumers use them), but given the open nature of the platform nothing is cemented in place. So while the G1 comes setup for use with gmail/gcal/maps/etc, there's nothing that says a sysadmin can't strip and replace. Moreover, the G1 isn't being pushed as an enterprise device in the first place; there's every possibility that carriers could release other handset models later, preloaded with more business-centric software packages (and less Google apps), and are simply holding off during Android's initial launch. If you think about it, Android has a much better chance of having a strong launch on the consumer front than on the enterprise front. Take care of the former first, then the latter has a better chance of long-term success.
8, g. Same as above, but Google is also pushing the cloud which could lessen the need for VNC/RDP/etc. Sysadmins will have their doubts about security in Google's cloud, but there's nothing that says they can't first observe the model and then later implement their own solution.
10. Not as much of an issue with the software as it is with the carrier. T-mobile isn't just launching Android, it's also launching its 3G network. Providing tethering out-of-the-box could seriously cripple the network in its infancy, and that's the last thing the US 3G market needs. Face it, we need good competition to force carriers to pick up the pace, and in time we could see some competing tethering plans between AT&T, T-mobile, et al.
Some thoughts in general:
Businesses may currently be invested in Windows Mobile for their mobile solutions, but the point isn't to take Android and simply turn it into WinMo -- that would be a wasted opportunity. WinMo users are effectively tied to their PC in one way or another (sync, RDP, svn, tether, etc). Android has the chance to push the cloud (among other innovative models), so that users are no longer dependent on existing workflows. The handset would become just a terminal for accessing the cloud, and transition between terminals would be completely transparent (Android on a phone? How about a netbook?). Not that I expect Android to overtake WinMo (or BES et al), but it gives companies more solutions that better fit their individual needs, and helps MS, RIM, etc start evolving the existing systems that are frankly getting dated.
thanks that was quite insightful
i would like to point out that a big portion (probably the biggest) of the android users only bought the G1 phone because of its great value. think about it the unlocked $399 G1 has more features than the $700 touch diamond. most of these people couldn't care less about what google have in mind for the platform. all they want is for their phone to do certain tasks (like exchange email) a lot of the other google-pushed tasks will probably be unused
I think for you personally, the #1 most important feature the G1 >>needs<< to have is spellcheck
fatso485 said:
...hostiliy...hilighting...buisness...intrested..
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t mobile is a poor businesses Carrier
most of the big business i have seen use at&t
once tmobile 3g network become more mature they might get some more of the business market. but until they iron out the wrinkles in there new 3g network don't expect anything from tmobile. i don't think you want something like the iphone bill happening to all you business customers.
this is the first step tmobile has taken towards 3g in the US
i am sure there will be some stumbles.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the Active Sync protocol needed for Exchange support is free to use from Microsoft. I see a LOT of it in many 3rd party email servers and applications. Many of which are in direct competition with Microsoft. So I think we can assume that Active Sync is very doable on the Android platform. Only needs a developer to do something about it.
Active Sync is my main concern too. Once that's in place, then some way to tether I'm getting me an Android phone quickly.
All the other concerns are too easy to fix either already or very soon, so the 2 problems I mentioned are the only show stoppers for me.
There currently isn't even a foolproof activesync drop-in replacement for Linux desktop distros. There's multisync and synCE, but they're both hard to install, hard to configure, and far from perfect in their implementation. As for getting it working under Android, like everything else, it's probably a wait-and-see situation. Most software for Linux isn't written in Java (which Android prefers/requires?) It'll be interesting to see if a java implementation of activesync software could happen.
does any1 know if the g1 has an on screen keyboard
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does any1 know if the g1 has an on screen keyboard
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Currenly, no. The demo and preview vids show that you need to open the hardware keyboard in order to type (except for the phone dialer). But I'm sure SIPs will show up pretty quickly.
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Currenly, no. The demo and preview vids show that you need to open the hardware keyboard in order to type (except for the phone dialer). But I'm sure SIPs will show up pretty quickly.
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Yeah, I hope they change that. When I had the Fuze I never liked pulling out the keyboard unless I have to type something long, an email or a long text or whatever. For normal web browsing, entering 1 URL, it's not worth it to slide it open, type and close it again.
my biggest concern is an appointment calender. im so reliant on my appointment calander ion my Kaiser... i wouldnt know what to do without it. Also, a way to sync files would be great. maybe the phone will be integrated with Google Docs? That would be SUPERB! I take notes in my college classes using Office Mobile, but if Android syncs with Google Docs... good lawd.. goodbye to WinMo!
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my biggest concern is an appointment calender. im so reliant on my appointment calander ion my Kaiser... i wouldnt know what to do without it. Also, a way to sync files would be great. maybe the phone will be integrated with Google Docs? That would be SUPERB! I take notes in my college classes using Office Mobile, but if Android syncs with Google Docs... good lawd.. goodbye to WinMo!
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Here's a video showing how well it syncs everything.
Say goodbye, WinMo
hi can someone point a place to download microsoft access mobile
thx
Access
If you are talking of the Access Database, then I am afraid you are out of luck, as MS stopped support for Access on the PDA in WM5 (if memory serves me correctly, may have been earlier).
What you will need to do is to go to a 3rd party database that will translate and synch with your existing MS Access databases. Personally I use SprintProDB, but there are many others.
Again, you need to be aware of the synch issues as well as usability, so I would strongly recommend going for the trial and field testing the voracity of each developers claims to functionality and synchronisation. FYI, Sprint Pro is at: http://www.kaione.com/
It's dang expensive but haven't seen many other options. I'm a teacher and just need it to keep grade book primarily. there's a program called Gradebook for oh my - 400$! about same as SprinDB wish they'd be reasonable atleast Someone needs to develop something openSource
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It's dang expensive but haven't seen many other options. I'm a teacher and just need it to keep grade book primarily. there's a program called Gradebook for oh my - 400$! about same as SprinDB wish they'd be reasonable atleast Someone needs to develop something openSource
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Truly, nobody says dang unless they are on US TV! As to the expense, I am pretty sure you will find SprintPro is not that expensive, its only around 30-40 not 400, so suck it up, pay the man for the work done and see if you can set this as a task for your students to complete as a project.
simple spread sheet in excell?
SQL Server CE 3.5 Works well on WM 6 by the way. Its great as a database and also comes with the Desktop like Query Analyzer.
single word, SQLite
Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
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First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
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Thirdly, you will have high bills for your transfer and users will have to wait ages for page to load.
Ahh and if you really want to do this, then you shouldn't think about neither Apache, MySQL nor PHP. You should use, what you have onboard: sqlite + Java (or maybe C) + some simple HTTP server (Java or C).
It wouldn't necessarily be for a professional site so to speak, more or less to fool around with.
For example (even though having use of facebook renders this completely useless) a blog hosted directly from the phone. Or with password protection, an over-the-web ftp to add apps to your phone from anywhere should you not have your cord on you.
Just little things to play with.
Nice addition Brut. But to clear the confusion, by saying WAMP, I was simply using it as a reference tool to get the point I was trying to make across. I didn't mean actually waste time making a work-around apache server on the droid, but simply a program that uses what's available on the phone to achieve the same ends.
Thanks for the input gents.
@Ruxton as far as chomping away at the battery, I wouldn't suspect it would use a high amount for what the uses are. Now to host some high-traffic sort of thing like google.com for example, ha, there really wouldn't be a chance to use the phone before it died. But as stated in my last post, little things for small uses. Of course, I didn't specify that in the topic start.
http://code.google.com/p/i-jetty/
5 seconds (really!) searching on Google ;-) It's everything you need and I doubt you will find something better
What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
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What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
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I'm quite sure that I requested "android http server", but now I don't see that site in search results I think it was a miracle! ;-D
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Ahh, I have mistaken, it is right on top of results ;-)
http://www.google.com/search?q=android+http+server
The magic behind that miracle was that one acronym, http. Had I only used that.. lol
Another problem is connecting to your phone from rest of the world. Does your telecom give you external IP? Is it static (but this could be fixed using dynamic DNS)?
MediaWiki on Android?
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
DesireOwner10 said:
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
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Not sure why the thank button is so close to the quote button... but oh well, I digress.
Have you considered dumping static pages from your mediawiki setup and then pushing those to the phone? If you don't need to edit the content, then having the full db backend on the phone is pointless. Just set up a script to dump the all the pages in an elegant way (wget comes to mind but there is probably a better way) and then bundle them for transfer to the phone.
Thanks for reply! Sorry for delay (floods tend to take you off the grid).
Not a bad idea about dumping static pages..but I would like to be able to navigate around & search through the mediawiki. Anyone have thoughts on AAMPing a mediawiki?
AAMPing a MediaWiki?
Anyone have any further thoughts or smart ideas on pulling this off?
Have you tried PAW Server?
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Thanks for the reply. PAW server is an interesting bit of kit and certainly is a demonstration of what the device can serve up.
However..it isn't exactly what I'm trying to achieve. Basically...I need something which will run the php files and the MySQL database which are what MediaWiki is comprised of.
Whilst I could simply generate static pages from my Wiki's & read them directly on the phone, this means I lose all the advantages of links & searching which is one of the reasons why I put my notes in a MediaWiki to start off with.
So..anyone know of something like an AAMP?
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Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
Android web server
yashade2001 said:
Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
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WHAT YOU NEED IS 'KSWEB SERVER' --> (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.kslabs.ksweb&hl=en)
FIND IT ON ANDROID MARKET
PHP + MYSQL
Hi guys,
isn't there someway to develop my Android apps on a webserver so I can work on them via FTP on any machine ?
I have a problem of not being able to continue work on a project once I leave work or leave home.
Please help me.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=remote+desktop
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=VNC
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=VPN
Maybe even use a SVN.
It's a bit of a hassle, but I just use dropbox. When I finish working at home I copy the project to dropbox. When I get to work it's ready to go. Copy it back again before I leave work.
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Actually I seccond SVN (or GIT if that's your fancy). It can sometimes be tricky to setup on a remote server but the versioning is well worth it.
I got the impression it wasnt just going from home to work and back that he was having trouble with though. All good suggestions though
OK ?
alostpacket said:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=remote+desktop
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=VNC
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=VPN
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Hmm!
just wondering what any of those have to do with Android development ?!?
Thanks
rigman said:
It's a bit of a hassle, but I just use dropbox. When I finish working at home I copy the project to dropbox. When I get to work it's ready to go. Copy it back again before I leave work.
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I appreciate the dropbox suggestion.
As an aside, I put a document into my dropbox on my Linux computer at home and immediately checked for it on my dropbox app on my Android phone - it was not there.
Neighter was it avaiable at work hours later at work - don't know how I might force it to refresh.
How about Eclipse RSE ?
As an Android developer using Eclipse comes with the territory.
I came across some thing called RSE( remote system explorer ).
From what I've read, it should give me FTP access to remote files.
But it fails when I try to configure a "Remote system Type".
Does anyone have sucessful experience with this ?
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Hmm!
just wondering what any of those have to do with Android development ?!?
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They do stuff like this:
I came across some thing called RSE( remote system explorer ).
From what I've read, it should give me FTP access to remote files.
But it fails when I try to configure a "Remote system Type".
Does anyone have sucessful experience with this ?
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It sounds like you need to better explain what you're actually trying to do. Are you trying to just take some files with you, or are you trying to be able to access your home computer remotely?
They have different solutions. It sounds like maybe you are confusing the two.
VPN/RemoteDesktop/VNC all have to do with accessing a computer remotely which is what you said you were trying to do originally. However it sounds like that's not what you need. Maybe I misintepreted your post. My appologies.
If you're just trying to take your project from home to work and back, then you should set up a server with SVN (or Git or Mercurial) somewhere, possiblly over SSH.
This can be on your home computer, or work (depending what ports your network admin allows), or on a hosted third party server (such as a shared hosting server like BlueHost, DreamHost, or iPowerWeb or something). I'd recommend the hosted 3rd party solution.
Though, if you use linux at home SSH is built into your system.
Dropbox and FTP are OKish, but you might as well just use a USB stick or something...
But SVN and Git have real version control and intgrate with eclipse. If you have it setup properly you can just hit a command in eclipse's project explorer and all the changes are commited to the remote repository.
So anyways, SVN is my advice too
Thank you very much alostpacket !
You were right about needing to explain better. I was not trying to achieve a remote desktop access solution. I was looking for a way to work on my Android projects without have to copy then on a USB or email them to myself.
I use a VPS to host my websites and I assumed I might be able to work on my Andoird projects via FTP from my server so regardless where I am, I have access to the same project - I don't know if you guys think that is possible ?!?
However, I will start to investigate SVN and Git.
Thanks again.
No problem, I'd say check with you VPS provider too, often times they have tutorials on how to set up SVN, or sometimes even automated one click installs.
There will be some learning curve with using SVN, but it will give you a lot of control over versioning your work. It's WELL worth the effort.
If you ever make a mistake you can easily roll back to an earlier version, or you can "branch" off from the main codebase to try out a beta feature and merge it back later with side by side views showing you where all the changes are.
Most every experienced developer uses some type of versioning control software (SVN, Git, Mecurial, CVS, or SourceSafe).
Git does many of the same things but is a bit more advanced and more designed around larger projects with teams of developers working remotely. (Git was developed by Linus Torvalds for Linux kernel teams to use). Mecurial I think costs $$ and is like git. CVS is a bit old, and SourceSafe is a Microsoft produc that I think also costs $$.
SVN is based on CVS and is intended to be the successor and more user friendly than CVS, but it's still takes some time to learn and some patience.
Many Android developers use Git though, so the choice is up to you, however I think SVN is a bit easier to learn.
FYI a SVN inside a dropbox works too.
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