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How to stop screen on when new sms arrives?

Hi every one.
So i set "button lock" and also disable mainly all notifications but every time a new sms arrives,the screen goes on.I will like to keep the screen off because if you carry your magician in your pocket and after that sms arrives,you can accidentaly press any button or even touch the screen.
I been checking every thing i could check but i can´t find the answer about this problem.
Thanks in advance.

Third party software Pocket Zen Phone or phoneAlarm.

Ok i´ll check it and see what i can do.
Cheers mate.

User22 said:
I will like to keep the screen off because if you carry your magician in your pocket and after that sms arrives,you can accidentaly press any button or even touch the screen.
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There are many occasions the Magician turns on its screen. Rather than trying to find and disable all these, I copied TPDisable.exe and TPEnable.exe from the original Extended ROM into my Program Files folder, and then assigned them to a hardware key (using Hotbutton, so that I can use the same key for both).
As the name implies, TPDisable disables the touchscreen (not the display!), and TPEnable re-enables it. So, before I put my Magician into my pocket, I now disable the touchscreen (one press of a button). That still leaves the keys active, true, but I found that normally the touchscreen is much more likely to be the culprit when strange things happen on your Magician while it's in the pocket, and turned itself on.
Cheers
Daniel

@ tadzio
Well,that is a very interesting solution,but i can´t find TPDisable.exe
or TPEnable.exe inside my magician.I need a bit more info from you
Daniel.
Thanks a lot for your replies.

What happens if you hold down power button for 2 seconds to switch off backlight? Does the light still illuminate on receipt of sms?

@ cruisin-thru
I can´t see the point of your question,mainly because the thing i am looking for is to "switch off" my Qtek like a normal mobile phone,i mince buttons locks and screen off when a new sms or incoming call arrives and when you push power button for example,then screen go on and also release the lock of the buttons.
Any one can say that then i can use deltalock.I did it but the battery live is going down very quick.
Screenlock is not working properly also,i will say that Deltalock is 95% a lot better than Screenlock.
And finally,why microsoft is developing this OS without fully screen off selectable option???. Who knows!!!
Cheers

User22 said:
Well,that is a very interesting solution,but i can´t find TPDisable.exe or TPEnable.exe inside my magician.I need a bit more info from you Daniel.
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Both programs are in the Extended ROM. Most users have made this visible (though not writable) by performing a Hard Reset, and immediately after completing the initial screen adjustment and mini-tutorial and before the device starts installing programs, a Soft Reset.
If you do not want to do a Hard Reset, search this site's FTP server for Magician Extended ROM downloads. There were a few there last time I looked.
Cheers
Daniel

Well,after config hotbutton to TPDisable and TPEnable i can´t enable the screen and hardware buttons.
TPDisable is disablind the screen but also all the hardware buttons ( with and without button lock at settins),even the power button.
I use same hardware button for TPDisable and TPEnable ,is that correct or i am doing silly things?

If I arrive an sms the screen is switching on and after a few seconds switching off again if I don't press any key or tap the screen!
It's a changeable registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE / System / CurrentControlSet / Control / Power /
WakeupPowerOff =12 (the default is 180)
DisableGwesPowerOff=0 (the default is 1)
If you switch on the Jam (power button) need to press some other key too, because it switches off after 12 seconds!!!
by Avers

@avers
Well that is another solution but i insist that there should be an easiest way to keep the screen fully off when a new sms or what ever arrives,including hardware buttons off ofcourse.
Any suggestion more?, perhaps at the end and betwen all of us ,we can find the solution.
Cheers.

I think the best solution is third party software like PHONEALARM,
it's easiest way to get main tweaks of Pocket Windows.
get it there
http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.htm

Well my friends,pocketzenphone is not doing what i am looking for.
Next step is to try phonealarm,but probably will work the same way as pocketzenphone,leting the screen to go on every time a new sms arrives.
Sorry for my languaje but F... microsoft and F... devil gates.

As you can read on this post ,phonealarm IS NOT doing it.
http://www.pocketmax.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=429

phonealarm has option named "Don't activate backlight on alarm"
ALARM there means any event, that needs notification.
now i am understanding, that it is some differ that you need.
also i advice you make some registry tweaks to make a very short backlite time when sms arrives.:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\WakeupPowerOff = 10
this timeout in seconds. is used when our device self power on, when SMS arrives or we push the POWER button and do nothing anymore
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\DisableGwesPowerOff = 0
this key is enables this power control system (necessarily change it, or first key will not work)
after the editing registry you need to reboot PDA.
sorry for poor english, i translate text from russian.
if you want to use online translator i can give you original URL
_http://forum.ladoshki.com/viewtopic.php?t=16012

Thank you for your reply i will try like you and others point out and also will keep looking for that utopic soft.

deltaLock locks the screen and buttons even if you get sms or calls. I use it on my JAM and it works so far.

bnycastro said:
deltaLock locks the screen and buttons even if you get sms or calls. I use it on my JAM and it works so far.
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If you read one of my post ,you will see that i allready said that Deltalock is working but it is KILLING the battery live very fast and when i say VERY FAST it mince that you will get almost 6hours against the normal live (more than 15hours).
Cheers mate.

I think if you keep your ppc on all the time you will get this battery life. Anyway I think deltaLock is for keeping your PPC on and having screen and button lock, not having it in suspend mode and not allowing the screen to power up. Sorry about that, seem to have misunderstood your post.

Don´t worry mate, at the end we are all together trying to find a solution to this microsoft silly programing, any comment and any new idea is wellcome.
Cheers.

Two new problems

Hi,
after installing too many apps this evening i found two problems:
- when i receive a new message a very little windows appears on lower left side of the home windows. This new one probably replaces the extended normal one which appears when a new sms arrives.
- when i set the ring off or vibration mode however the diamond ring but at the max volume. It's crazy !!!
These are the last apps I've installed today before find the problems:
- scorpio16v 4icons_in_row
- jizy HTC Action Screen
- Nadavi HTC Diamond - Improved Connection Manager
- ThumbCal 1.1.2
- dark Phone Pad - International
- Dictmgr
I removed all the apps but the problems persist.
What can i do?
Do you need the list of all applications installed of my Diamond?
Thanx

Hi again,
i've done some screenshot of the problem...i hope now someone can help me
As you can see the stupid restricted window with the new message is over any other apps.
Thanx

i haven't installed those apps yet. have they all been done at once? i can test to see if it is linked to one, but may be tied to a combo of them.

th1nm1nt said:
i haven't installed those apps yet. have they all been done at once? i can test to see if it is linked to one, but may be tied to a combo of them.
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Hi th1nm1nt,
i installed them about at this order:
- Dictmgr (install and removed because i couldn't understand how to use it)
- dark Phone Pad - International (install and removed because unuseful)
- ThumbCal 1.1.2 (install, removed than re-install two day later)
- Ringtone Manager v3.0 (softreset included)
- * scorpio16v 4icons_in_row
- * jizy HTC Action Screen
- * Nadavi HTC Diamond - Improved Connection Manager
* Installed one after the other, then softreset at the end.
As i wrote, i tried to uninstall all apps but the problem persist. I'm not an WM Mobile expert, but i think the problem is not in Manila, but in WM.
This morning i find the allarm doesn't start. Why? I've discovered that after connect the mobile with activesync the sms and allarm rings are shutup...then after a softreset they ring again but at the max volume, is also impossible set the sms ring at the desired volume witch ring at the max volume in any condition and any variation on the phone volume is vain, also the vibration is always off. Instead for the phone call ring and vibrate correctly.
Thanx
PS. With Resco Registry Editor i tried to find any Word, Key or Strings that can set the size of the popup window but i didn't find anything. I fink the problem is in some dll or exe files (tmail.exe?)

Hi guys !!!
In the autostart folder i founded a link to this app "MessageInterception.exe"
The name doesn't link very good...interception? hum...
So i've disabled this link and after a softreset now i've got an half-problem:
nir36 said:
When i receive an SMS i can't hear the notification sound, can't see the preview on my screen.. and the phone does not vibrate.
i checked the notification settings.. but it's all set. I tried Ringtonemanager but it's a big buggy. any ideas?
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I've done a quicksearch and i founded an interesting thread: No SMS voice notification

[problem] WM 6.5 slide lock problem: UNKNOWN CALLER ID when in suspend/power off mode

there is a problem with WM6.5 roms lock slider:
if a call comes in & the lock is active but the phone is in suspend (power off or manually pressed the power button) the call will show "unknown caller"
you will not see the name until you answer od then you can see it later as missed call
this is annoying as you can not screen the calls & answer/ignore the ones you like
the slider lock will show the name only if the sceen has not turned off yet (did not enter suspend mode yet)
is there any fix out there?
I am thinking if someone knows how to make the screen light dim firest the turn off only (without power off / suspend) then it will work
anyone has a registry tweak to just turn screen off & leave the ppc running without suspend?
or any other fix????
i like to use the wm6.5 lock, i know i can use S2U2 but i prefer this one & hope we can fix it
thanks

Same issue !
Same problem here...
i use Chobit Company SmartLock and HTC phone Canvas...
HTC phone canvas is first to present ID caller then in communication WM6.5 lock is activate by Suspend mode in communication... because Chobit Smartlock is in use... other i have the same issue like You...
unknown caller with WM6.5 lock when it s suspend mode...
i agree, if anybody knows how to solve this problem... i buy it !

lesscro said:
Same problem here...
i use Chobit Company SmartLock and HTC phone Canvas...
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hmm i couldn't get the smartlock to work for me on my xperia
i used CsDevCtrl and it's sorta working... it auto locks my device if the backlight turns off or if i manually put it in suspend mode *power off button* and locks on wake up.... has a bunch of features i'd never use so it's a bit more complex than i'd like. but even with that auto lock i still get the unknown caller... i'll have to read more about htc phone canvas.. i'm not really liking the xperia dialer anyway... never have...
p.s. while we are on this topic of wm 6.5 screen lock... anyone else notice that alarms sometimes don't display the minutes if the phone is locked ? the slider works and everything for snooze and dismiss... but... it just shows the hour of the alarm.. and then dots like "10:...." even though the alarm is for 10:25...? plz post if you are also havin this problem...
again tho.. these problems might just because it's not the offical build yet... these problems may be worked out with an offical release... nothing i can't live with at the momemnt

so i still have no luck with this unknown caller ID issue
i am sure someone knows the registry tweak..as many programs just use screen off
for example media player as you can play music while screen is off
or S2U2 can lock / turn off screen but leave phone working unsuspended
please help
Thanks

I've noticed this also but if you use a dialer that has its own slide to unlock then it tends to work fine..at least for me anyway..
It does take about 2 seconds for it to go from unknown caller to who it actually is though..

not sure if device dependant, when a call comes in and no id showing I simply press the power button twice (off then back on) and i.d then shows

Hmmm, after showing Unknown for the Caller ID this morning, now the caller ID is showing up on wake. Strange. Only thing I have done was install the sdkcerts cab. I'll test further.

no caller id in tmobile wing after installing s2u2 1.62

Has anyone tried changing calleridmatch?
Use a registry editor and go to HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value is by default 8, i.e 8 Digits. Change that to 7 and soft reset.
I will test and see if it helps, it used to help w/wm6.1.....

killerskincanoe said:
p.s. while we are on this topic of wm 6.5 screen lock... anyone else notice that alarms sometimes don't display the minutes if the phone is locked ? the slider works and everything for snooze and dismiss... but... it just shows the hour of the alarm.. and then dots like "10:...." even though the alarm is for 10:25...? plz post if you are also havin this problem...
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Hi
i did not notice that i guess because i did not the alarm with lock screen before
but thanks for pointing it out
i fixed the problem
all what you need is to unzip the attached file..use the 2 files inside to replace the ones in "\windows" folder
i used resco explorer to replace because they are protected windows files
then soft-reset...everything works better after that & shows full clock & am/pm too
enjoy

It seems that the latest builds of WM6.5(builds 21221 & 21222) have solved this issue...

ekksman said:
not sure if device dependant, when a call comes in and no id showing I simply press the power button twice (off then back on) and i.d then shows
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Thankssssssssssssss
that trick worked with my phone
the fix was simple & there the whole time and i did not know...
its good...not perfect (should work by itself) but at least now i know who is calling
again thanks for your input

noellenchris said:
Has anyone tried changing calleridmatch?
Use a registry editor and go to HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value is by default 8, i.e 8 Digits. Change that to 7 and soft reset.
I will test and see if it helps, it used to help w/wm6.1.....
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thanks, but i checked my registry
& i do not have callidMatch at all there???

aa125690 said:
It seems that the latest builds of WM6.5(builds 21221 & 21222) have solved this issue...
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i have eten rom build 21501 & on other phone 21510 and both have same problem

noellenchris said:
Has anyone tried changing calleridmatch?
Use a registry editor and go to HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value is by default 8, i.e 8 Digits. Change that to 7 and soft reset.
I will test and see if it helps, it used to help w/wm6.1.....
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I tested this out, no help. But the power button trick works...hmmm. I wonder what's going on and why this works?

21501 and same problem on
htc titan.

AWESOME! thx you!
ahmedfikry said:
Hi
i did not notice that i guess because i did not the alarm with lock screen before
but thanks for pointing it out
i fixed the problem
all what you need is to unzip the attached file..use the 2 files inside to replace the ones in "\windows" folder
i used resco explorer to replace because they are protected windows files
then soft-reset...everything works better after that & shows full clock & am/pm too
enjoy
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DUUUUUDE... haha thx!
u got right on that.. i'll download and give it a try.
although i haven't yet had the chance to check since my latest ROM update if it was just the rom or 6.5... but i'll test and reply with results THX AGAIN!
p.s. i wonder if above mentioned power button trick will work with my alarm situation on the lock screen.. willl also investigate!

SOOO>>> has anyone else tried using a custom .mp3 or .wav msg tone.. a non-short one.. i'm using one about 11 sec long.. and when the device is locked, screen on or off... and a msg comes in.. the tone cuts in and out... as soon as the device is unlocked
it stops cutting in and out... doesn't do it if the device isn't locked....
anyone else experiencing this?

killerskincanoe said:
SOOO>>> has anyone else tried using a custom .mp3 or .wav msg tone.. a non-short one.. i'm using one about 11 sec long.. and when the device is locked, screen on or off... and a msg comes in.. the tone cuts in and out... as soon as the device is unlocked
it stops cutting in and out... doesn't do it if the device isn't locked....
anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes. I notice that the cuts happen when the video plays (the small arrows to the left and right of the slider) Once that times out, the music is contiuous.

noellenchris said:
Has anyone tried changing calleridmatch?
Use a registry editor and go to HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value is by default 8, i.e 8 Digits. Change that to 7 and soft reset.
I will test and see if it helps, it used to help w/wm6.1.....
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Thanks!! this worked for me. Using "Udk WM6.5 BETA2 21500 - base v2.04" (device= Touch Diamond)

Disable Hardware Keys

Hi Folks,
I´m still looking for a way to disable the hardware-keys while the devide is in sleepmode. Only the Powerbutton should wake up the device. And also only the screen-slider should answer or dismiss an incoming call....
I cant believe that there ist still no solution for this problem....
And please dont answer me with: use s2U2 or other 3rd Party stuff... there must be an other way to do so

Candy-men said:
Hi Folks,
I´m still looking for a way to disable the hardware-keys while the devide is in sleepmode. Only the Powerbutton should wake up the device. And also only the screen-slider should answer or dismiss an incoming call....
I cant believe that there ist still no solution for this problem....
And please dont answer me with: use s2U2 or other 3rd Party stuff... there must be an other way to do so
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you have to.

I'm also interested in this. Why wake up the phone with another button then the one who put it in sleep in first place. I find it strange. Like if I put the light off in the kitchen then opened the fridge the kitchen light will come on. who would like that ???
Can someone find a solution for this I search everywhere with no satisfying result.
I newly updated my Topaz from 6.1 to 6.5.3 and I can't recall that I had this problem in 6.1 and i had 6.1 for over 1 year.
I would say that this issue has nothing with screen lock to do it's rather an issue with wake-up (What shall wake up the phone from sleeping status : a call, sms, mms, mail, hardware key, power button etc...)
Just when I decided to post my problem I found it's solution:
Set HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd\DefaultKeyLock to 0.
Now nothing wakes-up the phone except the power button.
I found a cab posted also here is the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=246722&d=1258236796
found on page : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581531&page=2
posted by : triperko http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=393396

i´ve made the changes in the registry, but still every button wakes up my device. So this "tweak" won´t work for me

Well I know after posting for about 3 - 4 hours I got the problem back myself not understanding what I have done to get the problem back. Yesterday evening I spent all night trying to figure this out. I have CHT Lock screen enable + BharS_OBOE_Lock_Disable.Cab. I need this cab because I have Huashan lockscreen built in my rom. And the cab allows me to use the CHT lock screen. To solve my problem I have done the following:
1) Disable CHT lockscreen
2) Uninstalled the Cab
3) made sure the registry setting was there and problem solved.
3.1) reinstalled the cab
3.2) enabled the CHT Lockscreen
Still working...
4) Went to power option the win 6.5 setting just to take a look (didn't change a thing)
5) Problem returned.
Start all over again to solve my problem.
For now on I'm staying out of the power option in win 6.5 setting.
There is nothing you can do there anyway until CHT lock screen come with an option for enabling password on lock.
I'm sorry I don't have any scientific explanation for this. But till now I can say I have solved my problem hope it solves yours
I'm using WWE"Topaz Roms + Kitchen"Build 23130/21914"Manila 2.5.20182814.0"(August 20th)

No, this couldn´t solve my Problems, because i use CHT 1.6.1 and this version doesn´t have any Lockscreen options.
The real Point that i can´t understand is: This is still a WinMo 6.5 Version, why is the Menue-point : Lock all buttons except Power on/off not there?
There must be a way to get this point back. I can´t belive that we have an extra written WinMo Version for the HD2...
So, where is the registry setting to get back the point?

+1000
I also hate this problem with HD2 FYI. I had already opened a post on this a few weeks back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694109

Have your tried uninstalling CHT making sure the reg key above is set and Test ?

this needs to happen... any key to wake is just silly! and on a related point, only the on-screen slider should answer/reject an incoming call

[Q] PDAVIET V32 Vibrates all the time??

is there any registry entry that would fix this Jade with V32 PDAVIET rom from vibrating each time a call is placed or answered, I have looked in the settings and haven't seen any entries with that setting in particular.
I would have asked this in the developer forum but with the heavy handed mod in there didn't dare to.
Thanks,
Rick

On my standard Orange UK rom I can turn it off.
In to Start---Settings---Phone---Bottom task bar scroll right to advanced and open. Untick Bottom entry Vibrate device when connection established.
Proper Job

kwackerjeff said:
On my standard Orange UK rom I can turn it off.
In to Start---Settings---Phone---Bottom task bar scroll right to advanced and open. Untick Bottom entry Vibrate device when connection established.
Proper Job
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I too as well in the other Roms, its just this particular version thats doing it,,, I figured someone in here with intimate knowledge of the registry in WM6.5 would know where to look.
Cheers,
Rick