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Which one is better? O2 XDA Exec or I-Mate Jasjar?

Hi I live in the United Staes. I am now presented with an opportunity to be able to buy the O2 Exec. So basically I have 2 choices, the Imate Jasjar which is available here, thus with warranty coverage, or the O2 XDA Exec which I really want for its color. I don't really know if there is a hardware difference. I want to buy the O2 Exec from one of the members here. He was kind enough to offer the responsibility to send it to O2 if there is a problem with it later.
Does the I-Mate Jasjar have the corporate settings too?
So if you guys were me, what would you guys go for?
Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

Having owned both a JJ and Exec I would, at this point, recommend the Exec because:
- in Corporate mode it is quicker and has more storage space
- it does not appear to have the SMS notification bug
And like you I prefer the all black colour of the XDA.
Also in the UK you can get an unlocked Exec for less than £300 while a JJ can be £540/£640 (contract/SIM free).

The hardware is identical, and the corporate settings on the Exec closely resemble the Jasjar install when you skip the customization after a hard reset. In all honesty, I ended up buying the Exec, it looks way cooler, it also has BLUE keyboard backlight instead of red, which makes it much much better visible at night.

@Jah. Could you kindly elaborate what the SMS notification bug is. I am asking this because for me on the JJ ocasionally when a new SMS arrives it causes my phone to freeze. Just wondering if this is what you are referring to as the bug.
Kind Regards

jah said:
Also in the UK you can get an unlocked Exec for less than £300 while a JJ can be £540/£640 (contract/SIM free).
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Unfortunate for me that I don't know anyone in the UK. I'll be buying the Unopened Box O2 Exec for £500.

That is what I paid as well, and not too bad in comparison with Jasjar and Qtek 9000 prices.

Wiz said:
That is what I paid as well, and not too bad in comparison with Jasjar and Qtek 9000 prices.
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Did you bought it direct from O2 or from one of the members here?
Any tips as to check the validity of the sale?
I already asked the seller to send me pictures of the SEALED box. Is there actually a seal or it is just in a box?

@srmz
Yes, that is it. Search here there a whole thread on the SMS problem

@cktlcmd
This is probably something you already considered and checked, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. My main concern would be the question of whether it's locked or unlocked. For £500 I would imagine it should be unlocked. Which carrier will you be using?

iM SELLIN A XDA EXEC FOR ONLY £500
WITH ALL THE PAPER WORK TO MAKE WARRENTY VALID
CONTACT ME FOR MORE INFO

kelford said:
@cktlcmd
This is probably something you already considered and checked, but I thought I'd bring it up just in case. My main concern would be the question of whether it's locked or unlocked. For £500 I would imagine it should be unlocked. Which carrier will you be using?
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From what I know, all O2 Exec are unlocked. I will be using Cingulair in New Jersey. Do you also have a universal? If yes, how is the reception? Any comments? Thanks for responding.

cktlcmd said:
Do you also have a universal? If yes, how is the reception? Any comments? Thanks for responding.
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Yes, I have a Jasjar and use T-Mobile. I'm not a big user on the voice side of things and haven't had any problems with reception, but my limited use of that aspect might not make me the best source for an opinion.
I do use the data connection often (which is why I like T-Mobile's $19.99 unlimited data) and haven't had any problem getting a signal that way.
Ultimately I'm really happy with it because it's just the device I've been wanting. I use it for just about everything.

OK, I just bought the BRAND NEW, UNOPENED, O2 XDA Exec. I can't wait for it to be on my hands. Any tips as to a good screen protector, and where to buy it from? A link would be really appreciated.

Would you mind sharing where & how much for the unit? I am interested in getting one to be used in CA on T-Mo. Thanks.

sclui56 said:
Would you mind sharing where & how much for the unit? I am interested in getting one to be used in CA on T-Mo. Thanks.
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I bought it from one of the members here for 550 UK including shipping and handling via FEDEX to New Jersey.
Basically, I just waited and watch this site for most of my free time. I just grabbed it when it presented itself. :wink:

Thanks for the info, I think I'll wait till next week & get the Qtek version locally, just don;t care the colour of the iMate version.....

cktlcmd said:
Any tips as to a good screen protector, and where to buy it from? A link would be really appreciated.
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I bought my screen protectors from PPC Techs at http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~iMATE_JASJAR-496~area~home.htm
Their WriteSHIELDS come in two flavors, the C2 (Crystal Clear) and the AG (Anti Glare.) I've used both and found they are both very good. I have a crystal one on my old Dell and have never had to change it. To me, the crystal one is so clear that you really don't know it's there. That said, I have the anti glare one for my Universal, primarily because of the phone aspect. The anti glare version (which also stands up to usage very well) is also good with keeping fingerprints to a minimum so it works better when you have it up to your face too. PPC Techs offers a package where you can get one of each and that's actually what I bought for the Universal, I'm just using the AG currently.
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Would you mind sharing where & how much for the unit?
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I bought my Jasjar from Convergent Technology at http://www.convergentech.com/
Their price looks to be $1079.99, down from $1199.99 when I bought it. The color (colour )was never an issue for me, so I went with a company I had already worked with to give me a bit more confidence that any issues I might have (which I haven't, fortunately) would be worked out with a minimum of headaches.

kelford, thanks for the info, the vendor you used is fairly pricey, e.g. their price on the K-Jam is nealry $150 over what MMB charges! I had to do a double take to make sure they are not posting C$

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...the vendor you used is fairly pricey...
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sclui56, that very well could be. at the time i was looking to buy though, every vendor i found (except ebay) had the JJs for $1,200 so there didn't seem much of a choice at the time. that was when it was first out though, (some sites still listed pre-order status when this vendor had them in stock) and prices hadn't started falling yet. obviously their prices drop much slower than everyone else's! they must have less gravity or something.
in any event, there were two reasons i bought from them. 1) all of my previous PDA purchases had been direct through Dell so this one was a little different and being such a high ticket item there was a real trust concern. going with someone i knew was important. 2) (and probably even more importantly) i wanted it now!!! so yes, i could have waited and saved some money, but now i've had all this time to play with the JJ!

kelford said:
I bought my screen protectors from PPC Techs at http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~iMATE_JASJAR-496~area~home.htm
Their WriteSHIELDS come in two flavors, the C2 (Crystal Clear) and the AG (Anti Glare.) I've used both and found they are both very good. I have a crystal one on my old Dell and have never had to change it. To me, the crystal one is so clear that you really don't know it's there. That said, I have the anti glare one for my Universal, primarily because of the phone aspect. The anti glare version (which also stands up to usage very well) is also good with keeping fingerprints to a minimum so it works better when you have it up to your face too. PPC Techs offers a package where you can get one of each and that's actually what I bought for the Universal, I'm just using the AG currently.
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Thanks for the tip Kelford.

when on 02?

I'am looking to get this on 02... any ideas when its out?
As orange are sold out

Talk to Orange and ask them to put you on a prepurchase list, I did heh, there has been no announcement from O2 as to the release of the TyTn but I read on theregister that O2 had had a falling out with HTC and possibly wouldn't be releasing any more of them. Though, as with all news of that type, it could be wrong as O2 have to be a reasonably major customer of HTC

i like 02 as they dont brand the phone, and to buy offline is crazy!

tomcoleman said:
I'am looking to get this on 02... any ideas when its out?
As orange are sold out
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It's not coming out on o2

Well, I'm sure Buzz and the team will work out an unlock for it sometime, and also someone will come up with unbranded roms, besides, just look at the branding on the HTC Universal / XDA Exec as it ships from O2 lol you CAN turn the orange branding options off (apart from the orange logo on the case lol)

Just a point on unbranding. I have an Orange M3100 and got a T-Mobile VarioII. the VarioII doesn't have any button to the top left of the D pad whereas on the M3100 it's a video call button which I believe can be re-assigned to other apps.
No sure which other operators are doing this, if any.
Just a point to those who might want to re-brand and 'play' with the device.
Gav.

purchased a softbank

I recently purcahsed a supposedly unlocked "new" softbank x01ht. I know it can't be new because to unlock it they would have to mess with it out of the box. I e-mailed the seller and he assured me it was unlocked and the OS was in english. I also found some other posts on this board questioning the legitimacy of these cheaper unlocked softbank phones. I'll give an update on whether its legit or not when it arrives on monday.
Just want to know if there are any American users of these softbank phones? Especially in California? Are there any issues with this phone on the t-mobile network? I am pretty new to the pocket pc/phone scene. I read through the FAQ on the wiki I just have a few more questions:
1. What exactly is the radioROM. Is it part of the main ROM or a separate ROM?
2. Is it safe to assume all HTC Hermes model phones are pretty much the same hardware wise and just differ in cosmetics? So if I load a HTC ROM on my softbank, it pretty much is a HTC phone in function?

daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?

sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
Heres the auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=110067200160&rd=1&rd=1

Serial...
X_Farhad said:
daemonk, i tried my best to find out what are these devices' S/Ns, that seller didn't answer, would you tell us what is the S/N when it arrived?
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I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638 and it came with a dopod rom installed and bootloader 1.04. It was shipped to the US from Hong Kong overnight.
I am returning it because it came with one dead pixel on the screen. They say that the return time takes 14 days and they gave me a return address in Bellevue, WA.
Hope this info helps anyone.

wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.

I purchased one from them also. The Serial number starts with HT638
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thanks Freshster! that's good so there should be no alignment issues..

daemonk said:
sure. I bought mine on ebay btw. There was a thread previously on the same seller. The shipping tracking says its being shipped from Hong Kong.
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Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.

mgmchan said:
Yes there are quite a few Softbanks in HK. Street price selling just under US$500. Official Dopod selling almost US$800 in HK.
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softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.

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softbank sells phone devices with their brand name only in japan. i presume any softbank devices sold their should be the ones sold through any illegal channels. no one can justify the $300 difference on the price tags if dodpod and sofbank sold there are both from the legal channels.
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They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!

mgmchan said:
They're not "illegal". We call them parallel import. But then for the $300 difference, we don't have any customer service and we're on our own if the Softbank goes silly. See, if they can make a profit at $500, then the street retail in Japan should be around $400. Good deal for such a device!
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whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.

daemonk said:
wow that makes me feel a lot better knowing its not a scam. I hope mine comes with no dead pixels.
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Let me know when yours arrives. I am curious about a couple things...
1. Does it have any bad pixels?
2. Does it have a Dopod rom and 1.04 bootloader?
I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.

Freshster said:
I hope my replacement does not come with the 1.09 bootloader.
Since these come unlocked with the Dopod rom installed, then I would guess that I should be ok with my replacement when it comes.
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i'm surprised if it comes with the bootloader 1.09. the bootloader 1.09 checks the cid and it won't let you flash the dopod rom on softbank device. you cannot unlock softbank x01ht that comes with the new rom with the bootloader 1.09. if it comes unlocked with the dopod rom, the bootloader cannot be 1.09.

alright just got my softbank phone in. From the looks of it, everything looks legit. I want to charge it fully before I turn it on so I'll post on the ROM version and stuff tomorrow. The manual is in Japanese as I expected, so how long do I need to charge this thing for the first time?
The S/N is HTC638XXX btw.

okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem

daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
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Thanks for the update.
It seems that yours came with bootloader 1.06 while mine came with 1.04.
I just sent mine back today for replacement because of the dead pixel.
The seller has been very responsive to me, but it is a shame that I have to wait 14 days or more to get a new one.
I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
Thanks again.

Finally received my replacement!
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I'll let you all know the specs of my new one when it comes in.
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Well, I finally received my replacement X01HT yesterday after a month of waiting.
As promised, here are the specs:
X01HT (HERM200) with Dopod ROM
Bootloader: 1.04
ROM Version: 1.23.707.4
ROM Date: 07/21/06
Radio Version: 1.14.00.10
Protocol version: 32.50.7018.00H
One other thing that I noticed was that the first one I received (and returned) had the part number 99HCE045-00 XT01.
This new one I received yesterday has the part number 99HCE045-00 XT02.
Does anyone know what the difference is between XT01 and XT02?
Edit: Also wanted to mention that the new one has a serial number starting with HT647...

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daemonk said:
okay so mine is basically just like Freshter's. It has the dopod rom and 1.06 bootloader. No dead pixels .
So I guess the guy is legit? I havn't really had enough time to play around with it to notice anything wrong so I may not be the best authority on it.
The guy I bought it from on ebay is selling 5 more apparently.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...9276466QQihZ001QQcategoryZ64355QQcmdZViewItem
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Hi,
I read your posts about how you purchased the Softbank X01HT and i was wondering if you are satisfied with it, and if you recommend that i buy one from the same guy you did.
Ebay - Item number: 110111081121
9 Available
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SoftBank-X0...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am on the virge of making the purchase, can you tell me if you have had any problems at all.
Also, where you ever able to update the ROM????
Any answers can be a great help.

I buy one from pcmonde on amazon and work very well.
I Update it w the official rom wm6 on spanish for the TyTN from htc.
Works very sweet!

harryk1372 said:
whatever you name it, they are not shipped there through the proper softbank channel.
there are those in japan buying them from softbank with the contract and personally exporting them unused to elsewhere after canceling the contract, but that will not work anymore with the ones shipped with the new rom after Dec 2 as nobody so far including pof has been able to unlock it.
if any unlocked ones are still flowing through from elsewhere, it could be from factory level and that is definitely through any illegal channels as htc should ristric that.
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I don't understand your logic. Unless it has been "stolen", it is as legal as it can be.

i'm new to the xda scene but i am awaiting a recently ordered softbank x01ht that a 3rd party rogers dealer has ordered for me from an authorized dealer in vancouver. this comes with waranty and all for about $570. it comes locked and in japanese as i was told by the person introducing me to person ordering.

Why do Orange not sell the black M700 direct?

Having used the White M700 for the past 2 months on my personal contract, I decided to order the latest Black version (including camera flash) shown on the Orange Business website for my Business Contract.
Another White M700 arrived & when I complained to Orange they sent me a returns envelope for the phone as the Black M700 is exclusive to the Carphone Warehouse.
Orange have been very obstructive against moving to the Carphone Warehouse - moving the goalposts etc.
Today I have accepted another White M700 free, at a £10 per month discount & free Orangecare Insurance, as Orange are not supplying the Black version 'at present' AND (after checking with the testing/approval department) not for the forseeable future.
Other than the missing flash I think the Trinity is the best phone available for handling/performance.
What's wrong with the Black M700 with camera flash?
Does anyone on the forum have the version with flash?
Peter

Are you sure that the black M700 has a built-in flash? As far as I know its exactly the same unit as the white one.

M700 flash
kta said:
Are you sure that the black M700 has a built-in flash? As far as I know its exactly the same unit as the white one.
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Orange have wiped the Black M700 from their site; showing a similar camera to the M3100

I just shifted my M700 into a black case. Looks much better tbh
Pissed me off that they don't do the Black version.
Plus I was sold it as being GPS enabled which it wasn't until I did a radio rom flash.
When I spoke to them I was told it was not a feature they had anything to do with and they couldn't have sold me the phone with that as a feature.

Boo Hoo
Just be happy that you can buy this phone from a carrier at all, we have to buy them imported.

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I just shifted my M700 into a black case. Looks much better tbh
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Where can I get a black case from?

akirainblack said:
Plus I was sold it as being GPS enabled which it wasn't until I did a radio rom flash.
When I spoke to them I was told it was not a feature they had anything to do with and they couldn't have sold me the phone with that as a feature.
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When did you buy yours?
ALL official Orange SPV M700's have had a GPS enabled ROM (Radio 1.30.00.11) except a very small number of 'demonstration, pre-release models' that had an older ROM.
As for features they have nothing to do with- another piece of Orange blarney. Orange France advertised and supplied GPS services from the start with the same hardware, and Orange UK include a GPS 'leaflet' in all M700 boxes (promoting their abysmal online GPS software)
Tomtooter: No SPV M700's (or other Trinity derivatives) have a Flash. Either the picture was photoshopped, or the published details were simply wrong!

NeilM said:
When did you buy yours?
ALL official Orange SPV M700's have had a GPS enabled ROM (Radio 1.30.00.11) except a very small number of 'demonstration, pre-release models' that had an older ROM.
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Mine is official, late May model M700 and I had radio .00, not GPS enabled. It's possible that this radio ROM was flashed to unlock the phone, though.

Yes- using most free unlockers will flash the radio to an older version- probably why yours disabled the GPS

I upgraded to a Black phone from my old phone by going to Car phone warehouse. You cnnot upgrade to this phone though as you must take out a new contract. Thus, I did this:
1) left Orange with my old number through the MAC code
2) Ported this Mac code to an O2 Sim Card.
3) I bought the new Black SPV M700 from CPW.
4) After 10 days I requested the MAC code for transfering my old number back from O2.
5) I range Orange and transfered my old number back to my new phone.
This was a pain in the neck but I kept my number and "upgraded" to a black phone as I hated the white colour.
It seems crazy they only do white and black for everyone else as for business white looks terrible!!

Tomtooter said:
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Try here:
http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-p3600-c-277_278.html

What's wrong with the HTC HD locked to Orange UK??

Greetings to you all.
THis is my first post here, and I would appreciate any help.
I am considering buying an HTC touch HD from eBay. I found that the cheapest ones are those listed in eBay.co.uk, and locked to Orange UK. However, the price difference compared to the phones which are factory unlocked made me think whether there is something wrong with the Orange UK phones.
To be specific, I have two questions:
1- Do Orange UK HTC-HD phones have different specs compared to other HTC-HD phones?
2- Are Orange UK HTC-HD phones guaranteed to be unlockable? If yes, could they be re-locked again after a ROM upgrade? will they work (after unlocking) on all GSM networks worldwide?
Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.

To Orange or not to Orange!
eng_asa said:
Greetings to you all.
THis is my first post here, and I would appreciate any help.
I am considering buying an HTC touch HD from eBay. I found that the cheapest ones are those listed in eBay.co.uk, and locked to Orange UK. However, the price difference compared to the phones which are factory unlocked made me think whether there is something wrong with the Orange UK phones.
To be specific, I have two questions:
1- Is the Orange UK HTC-HD phones have different specs compared to other HTC-HD phones?
2- Are Orange UK HTC-HD phones guaranteed to be unlockable? If yes, could they be re-locked again after a ROM upgrade? will they work (after unlocking) on all GSM networks worldwide?
Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
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1- I believe the Orange hardware specs are exactly the same. It's just the ROM/software that they play with.
2- Every phone should be SIM unlockable. I have seen many reports in this forum that they can be. You can easily replace an Orangised ROM with a cooked one or WWE stock ROM to remove any unwanted Orange stuff.... all you'll be left with is the little orange logo on the back. There is no need to SIM unlock the phone to upgrade the ROM. Check out the HSPL / USPL threads to see what must be done and how easy it is to ROM upgrade.
I have an Orange HD (still locked) running the non Orange HK 1.19 ROM

I have a Orange handset, i use orange so im not bothered about simunlock, ive removed the orange software and put Duttys 1.7 on at moment.
i believe there are a few vendors that can provide guaranteed (or your money back) unlock codes for around 18euros

I've had an Orange Touch HD for almost two weeks now and it seems fine. I flashed it with Duttys ROM and that improved things like RAM usage and stuff, but added its own little annoyances.
Go with the Orange, you wont regret it!!

I have an orange sim locked one... but as I am an orange customer I am happy.
Dutty's v1.7 rom is the current flavour.

Thank you all for your quick response. this will definitely help me out ...
One last question before I actually make a bid: Has anyone unlocked his/her Orange Touch-HD phone and used it on a different network outside UK?

Bought a HD ORANGE (UK) on ebay, unlocked it with code (htccode) and now im usin it in slovenia

Thank you so much
I will start bidding.. will let you know if anything went wrong!

I bought an Orange one from eBay a few weeks ago. Got it for £370 with a Best Offer. I had previously won another one which was described as 'brand new in box' but had a scratched screen and obvious signs of use!
Make sure you get what you payed for!! I had to do a PayPal dispute as this person was adamant they hadn't used it... despite the pouch being fluffy, the earphones having the furry covers on, and various scratches! Needless to say, they had it back on eBay as BNIB the next day again!
Anyway - my second one arrived still with the original screen warning protector, and I got a best offer on the unlock code on eBay for £14. The code came through within a few hours, and I typed it in twice and it worked perfectly. I then updated the ROM to Dutty's - as the Orange one was a bit naff - and stuck in my O2 SIM card! As with Dutty's ROMs on my old Diamond, it instantly knew it was an O2 SIM I'd put in, and asked me if I wanted to install the settings - which I did. A simple soft reset and my WAP / MMS settings etc were all sorted!
Orange phones are definately the cheapest, as people are taking them as a free upgrade and selling them on - because they're probably the phone thats worth the most at the moment!! The only downer is the naff Orange logo on the back cover which won't come off no matter what I scrubb it with! Their old ones wiped clean with some label remover or paint stripper

Can someone please take a picture of the Orange logo on the back? How big and gawdy is it?

i dont really like the orange logo on this one either, since the back cover is the same microsatin finish as the touch dual i had, its not gonna be possible to remove it.
its not very big, but a sudden orange square kind of spoils the "blackness" of the device.
im assuming there is no free unlock solution yet....
anyone know the cheapest place to get it unlocked? if its on ebay, could you give a link to the seller? im a bit cautious cos i've had some dodgy ones in the past thanks!

Orange HD Upgrade
I got my HD free as an Orange upgrade through mobiles.co.uk this week. Was very happy to find that Orange had not been let near this phone. Haven't even got the silly logo on the back and it's unlocked. I think they get them direct from HTC.

ModernMuseum said:
Can someone please take a picture of the Orange logo on the back? How big and gawdy is it?
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It's 1cm square or 1 square cm!

Damn....looks like I'll be looking for an un-branded phone then....

cant u just buy a new back cover off ebay and get rid of the logo that way?

My orange logo is less than 7mm squared!
I bought a replacement battery cover from eBay about a week ago, and it just arrived the other day. It was an 'original htc HD cover' from Hong Kong for £15.
It certainly looks original, and all the stuff inside is the same - but its missing the volume buttons, the power button, and the speaker grill bit. It also comes with the camera cover as a seperate bit you need to glue on!
A waste of £15 if you ask me - unless I can send it back to Hong Kong (which will probably cost me heaps anyway!!)

I got a fairly good deal with mine on Orange (£20 /month 500min, 100txt 3 magic numbers and phone for £95) so i dont see anything wrong with buying from orange. The phone works fine and specs are the same.

I have a Orange HTC HD as well...not anymore, new ROM(original HTC) and new HTC battery cover from expansys.com. Works fine...I'm on O2, I hate Orange very much gf using orange, poor customer service and poor reception, I give them a F with a - as a Mobile Network Provider.
My baby HD works and looks great after I got it back to the original HTC look thanks to the guys at xda-developers.com
See pic of Orange logo on the back of the phone, you also get a I must admit nice Orange splash screen which I removed when installed my new original HTC ROM678

Thanks for the photo. I'd rather do without the orange logo if I had a choice.
I'm currently looking for one, but all the UK sellers require a verified UK paypal address, which I don't have. I have a UK Aramex address, but of course it's not verified since I'm abroad.

Just buy the battery cover HTC original after you buy your phone. I think I payed for mine £23. Looksa good, from HTC or expansys.com.
GL!!