LOCK of device (Hermes) - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi!
Question for you Hermes-Pro's.. ;-)
Because of policy of the company i work for - They make a setting on my device that makes it impossible to change the LOCK-time to manual. And it is not possible to turn off the LOCK of the device.
Is there a way in registry or a program that i can use to overrule it. ? - The problem is that whenever i use a program and it has been untoched for 15 minutes - I have to enter the pin-code again.. That is not the smartest thing, when i use it as navigation... I gotta keep my eyes on the road... ;-)
I hope someone here can help me out..
Thanks alot..
I did look for a thread with this kind of question, but didnt find any - So hopefully im not starting a thread on something that has been asked 10.000 times before.
Looking forward to hear from you guys..

drkaosdk said:
Hi!
Question for you Hermes-Pro's.. ;-)
Because of policy of the company i work for - They make a setting on my device that makes it impossible to change the LOCK-time to manual. And it is not possible to turn off the LOCK of the device.
Is there a way in registry or a program that i can use to overrule it. ? - The problem is that whenever i use a program and it has been untoched for 15 minutes - I have to enter the pin-code again.. That is not the smartest thing, when i use it as navigation... I gotta keep my eyes on the road... ;-)
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This is not a Hermes issue as much as a Windows Mobile issue.
If I understand it you are using Active Sync Over-The-Air (OTA) synchronization? In that case, even if you manage to get rid of the policy it would simply reappear on the next sync.
As far as I know you will need to beg your sysadmins for help and understanding. Maybe they can remove or soften the policy for you.
Remember: Their goal is to make sure the information on you device is safe. Is there a way you can both win?
/m

Could you make a program or something that ran while your navigation program did so that it kept doing a key press or whatever it takes to stop the lock from coming on?

If i can just do it every time i need it..
I don't really care that it actually gets on again when i do a Active Sync.. Its just a problem, when i wanna run the program and it keeps coming every 15 minute.. I surely understand the policy of my company - But still .. Its a problem when i wanna run other programs on it... And i can't change it. Theres gotta be a way to change that settings in the registry or something?? Any ideas..
Thanks though for replying to my post...

Related

Annoying Device Lock

Hi All,
I have a VPA Compact II (Cingular 8125) and am synchonizing this with the Exchange Server of my company.
My company have set a policy that the device is locked after 15 minutes.
My problem here is that I am using a navigation software and during my ride the device igets locked every 15 minutes. Very annoying.
Anybody knows a solution for this?
Is there a way to keep alive the device?
Thanks
Ooops.
SOrry found the solution already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47912&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Sorry again
Must.....get......feedback.....
rogierh,
Let me know how it works. I've received zero feedback on this. I'm curious if people are using it, but just not posting feedback or if its too damn complicated and I need to refine my directions.
Justin
Hi,
I just installed and configured it as you discribed.
Unfortunately my device still gets locked up after 15 minutes (from the policy).
Till the 15 minutes are over the device is kept alive. Normally the backlight would die after 2 minutes, it now stays switched on.
Any idea?
I used the short methode of step 3.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Couple of questions first....
1) What gps software are you using?
2) When you open SKScheMa, does it say "WATCH ON" in the lower right corner?
Justin
Using TomTom.
Yes its ON
I think its a wizard or WM5 problem as it happens with me when listening to MP3s too
Sucks having a 15min lock policy, as i just set a 1hr timeout for mine and its enough to stp it irritating you much.
Is there anyway you can just "Forget" the policy or are you unable to.
Try these files...
Delete the old sksc and sksw file and try these files.
If they work, I'll post them to the original thread (which you posted in your second post). Place these files as described in steps 2 & 3. Sorry for the headache.
Let me know if this works.
Justin
Hmmm sorry to say, still the same.
It keeps the device alive till the 15 minutes policy comes in.
Might this be some other kind of trigger?
Some new files....
rogierh,
Sorry for the headaches. What I'd like to try next is have you try a new set of files. The ones you tried yesterday was supposed to prevent the device from locking by simulating the pressing of the "home" key. I'm wondering if this key doesn't work on your Wizard (I'm using a Universal). These new files will now simulate the pressing of the "enter" button. (Just so you know, when I tested this program on my JasJar/Universal, I did find that using certain "simulated" keys would not work. So maybe the "home" key doesn't work on your Wizard.).
Now this will not be the end solution. When you press the enter key when TomTom is running, it will bring up the main menu. When you press the enter button a second time, it returns you to the navigation screen. I want to test to see if SKScheMa is running properly. If it is, when you launch TomTom and don't touch anything, you should be able to see the screen cycle between the main menu and the navigation screen every 58 seconds.
Let me know if you see this behavior.
Thanks
Justin
Hi,
First of all thanks a lot that you are helping out here.
It doesn't seem to work. The screen does NOT change to the menu and back.
One comment, because I have a German device (unfortunately) , the program is in German as well. But that should not be a problem with the script I think.
You mention in your guide do click to ok button on the right top side. This closes the program and I do not find it running when looking under the started programs in settings. Is this correct?
I also tried not clicking ok, but this does not change anything.
Just trying to think with you. Is the ENTER key the same code as on your device?
BR Rogier
German.....
Thanks for the info on German. My guess is that the application name may be different (i.e. it's not TomTom Navigator but rather a German title). There's a relatively easy way to check.
First open TomTom.
Next, press the 'contacts' button.
From there, you should see the Windows Start Menu. Go to Windows Start -> Settings -> System -> Memory -> Running Programs.
There should be a list of the applications running. Do you see "TomTom Navigator" or something else?
Thanks
Justin
P.S. I think the code will work on non-english versions, but only the developer can really answer that.
The Name of TomTom Navigator is the same.
Also the SKSchema Program is in German of course :-(
Is there an other option in SKSchema I can test to see if this is working at all?
(I am waiting on a new english ROM from our IT department.)
You can experiment and create some "watch" functions/programs. I recommend that you use the program to create some test cases. Here's a link to their instructions on how to create watch programs (and scripts too):
http://s-k-tools.com/skschema/skschema.0409.htm
For example, when I learned how this program work, I created "test cases" in the watch section of the program. Some things you may want to try:
When a program is running (make it easy by using Contacts, Calendar, etc), play a sound.
Once you've created this "watch" script, SKScheMa will "watch" for the program to be launched and when I sees that it has been launched, it will continuously play a sound while the program is running.
Once you've sucessfully completed the sound test, you just start customizing it to your needs. For example, the next test may be to simulate pressing a key when the application is running. The simulation of pressing a key should prevent your device from locking. Using this test, you can see if your device still "locks" after 15 minutes.
Justin
P.S. I'm sorry you're having so much difficulty. If I can help you further (not that I've really helped you thus far), please let me know.
He no worries, I will have a look this weekend.
Many thanks.
Rogier
Unlocked device and updated to english ROM (finally).
Will test again.
simulating the pressing of the "enter" button now seems to work. COOL.
Will test with the other file now.
:-D
Ooooooo YES!!!!!
I am a Happy Man. This works now.
Seems the German Version of the Utility does not liked the script or so.
On an Englisch ROM all seems to work fine.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Rogier
Congrats....
I'm glad it worked out. I can't help but wonder....why does the language make a difference. I'm not a programmer so I guess I'll never know.
BTW, you can use SKTools to keep other programs open too. Let's say you want to keep your device alive while surfing the internet. You can develop a similar script for Pocket Internet Explorer/Opera/NetFront. I use it to keep alive TomTom and iGuidance. Take care. Justin
Thanks a lot for the tip.

--------------> IS there a program to auto switch on the device??

Does exist a program that switch on automatically the device??
Please, I need it...
Is someone developing something like this??
Or is there a way to make the pocket pc automatically switch on??
THANK YOU!!
an alarm would switch it on
Rudegar said:
an alarm would switch it on
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I have already try with the original HTC alarm, but when the pocket pc is switched off (and I mean "shut down"), it doesn't switch on it....
What program are you talking about?
Thank you....
If the device is "shut down" how should a program be able to run?
JR_de said:
If the device is "shut down" how should a program be able to run?
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Yes, I know...
But think about a simple mobile phone that switch on itself when an alarm is running....
Have you any idea about a program that can switch on the pocket pc??
Or a option that make the pocket pc start...
Don't you think that it is something like a reboot?
flaviopac said:
Yes, I know...
But think about a simple mobile phone that switch on itself when an alarm is running....
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Your simple mobile phone if it is waking up on an alarm can't be off totally, more like in a standby state.
Why would you want to turn it fully off and then turn on at a predetermined time, surely leaving it on would be far more sensible.....?
No is a simple answer to your question and I seriously doubt if any of the developers we have here would even waste more than a second ruling it out...if it's off it's off.....if the screen is off it is in a quasi standby state...
I would be interested in the same thing
powering my phone off and on using schedule.
I had Nortel phone about 8 years ago that was able to do this.
Great feature.
StewD said:
Your simple mobile phone if it is waking up on an alarm can't be off totally, more like in a standby state.
Why would you want to turn it fully off and then turn on at a predetermined time, surely leaving it on would be far more sensible.....?
No is a simple answer to your question and I seriously doubt if any of the developers we have here would even waste more than a second ruling it out...if it's off it's off.....if the screen is off it is in a quasi standby state...
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I turn off it because I can't leave it running everytime, day and night, for days....
So if a program that switch on the device would exist, I'll be very happy.
Have you any idea about that??
Thank you for the interest!
lifeisfun said:
I would be interested in the same thing
powering my phone off and on using schedule.
I had Nortel phone about 8 years ago that was able to do this.
Great feature.
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Thank you...
I hoped in someone that support my request....
I don't know exactly why a program like this doesn't exist...
Every mobile phone has this function, and you can also make your PC (yes, our desktop pc) start up at a setted hour.... and this is avaible also for mobile phones...
So why we don't improve this feature on our pocket pc??
So anyone has a solution??
try this
i don't use it anymore but if i remember correctly it does just what you are asking - it is in french but very simple to understand - someone had an english translation too - again if I'm not mistaking
Carlo626 said:
i don't use it anymore but if i remember correctly it does just what you are asking - it is in french but very simple to understand - someone had an english translation too - again if I'm not mistaking
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Thank you for your interest...
But I have tried it just now..
And don't work when the pocket pc is shut down..
It works only if the pocket pc is turned on...
I explain better my question...
"I need a program that switch on the pocket pc when it is turn off..."
Any help??
.
I think I understand your problem, I can't see a solution. But have you considered buying a spare battery, higher capacity ones are available for most devices from ebay.
Try "Addin Timer 3", a free sortware!
uniqueboy said:
I think I understand your problem, I can't see a solution. But have you considered buying a spare battery, higher capacity ones are available for most devices from ebay.
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Yes, I know...
But I don't want to leave my pocket pc running every time, without any pause.....
I don't think if it's usefull or not to turn off the pocket pc every day, but I'm sure that if you make your device run everytime, for dayd and days, this isn't healthy for it......
iiiox said:
Try "Addin Timer 3", a free sortware!
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Are you sure that I can do what I'm searching for with this program??
iiiox said:
Try "Addin Timer 3", a free sortware!
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Just tried....
Don't work for my question.....
Other ideas??
I have to say I'm puzzled that no one is working on software like that ...
Anyway, I'm even having hard time to find software that will turn off
the phone on predetermined schedule. Most having only count down to shutdown
sorry can't help you...
all i have to say is you might like to try harder....
I have to say I tried it as well but find it a bit confusing
How do you make it run in the background ?
Is there any documentation for it ?
Thanks

Lock/unlock

Hi guys
Can you help me!
Bad English, but I hope you understand.
I need a keylock to my phone.
So I can lock/unlock it. ( Like Iphone)
Its a problem when I have my phone in my pocket!
Anyone?
Thanks
The phone has one as standard.
If you want one like the iPhone, search for S2U2.
Schooleydoo said:
The phone has one as standard.
If you want one like the iPhone, search for S2U2.
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Thank you..
I cant fint S2U2. Can you help me?
I am new here, sorry...
Link for S2U2
http://s2u2.softonic.de/pocketpc
Or maybe use the official site of the developer......
http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/
michi123 said:
Or maybe use the official site of the developer......
http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/
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Thanks guys.
Shall I unzip on my computer or my phone?
zorro1000 said:
Thanks guys.
Shall I unzip on my computer or my phone?
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I guess you don't bother searching or reading, do you? There's a link on the developer's page saying "Read me first". If you click that then you'll find full instructions.
If you do not want to use 3rd party software, I suggest you use the built-in one.
Just hold the most right button a few seconds... (or read also the manual of the phone)
I also use this method, it is fine and I can preserve more power.
Before that, I also use S2U2, and I remove it after 1 day trail.
When I put the machine aside, HD will lock after 30s, then the screen will goes off in another 30s, the beautiful S2U2 screen saver will only survive for no more than 1 minutes.
When I pull the stylus out, it will automatically unlock, so I got no point to use S2U2......and most important, after using it, the battery goes very fast.
I have a full charge before sleep (100%), when I wake up in the next day, only 89% battery left......
geosphere said:
If you do not want to use 3rd party software, I suggest you use the built-in one.
Just hold the most right button a few seconds... (or read also the manual of the phone)
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I have also used S2U2 and had problem with the power leak but then switched to pocket shield which was great, I even wrote a post about it somwhere in this forum... but after some time with pocket shiel it showed 2 very annoying problems. One was that somehow it totally messed up my galarm application to the point it didn't ring the phone alarm at all (I was very pissed of). Since I am a good man I decided to give it one more chance so I uninstalled galarm and used standard windows alarm app... unforutnately this misworked same way- no alarm, this time i was smart enough to test it. Second thing was that pocket shield was messing start menu in my phone - making it disapear until restart, whenever appointment reminder would start...so this is why I dumped pocket shield and moved back to the simplest standard windows lock function
using s2u2, I like the feature, "keylock: do not lock buttons." I installed keylock.cab, but no effect. There is another way?

BlackBerry Connect IT Policy?

I use BlackBerry Connect 4.0.0.103 on my HTC Kaiser running WM6.1. It works fine, however I would prefer Exchange ActiveSync. The IT policy that has been defined by our IT dept enforces a complex password policy. This means the default WM6 'Lock' is replaced by the BlackBerry Security one and must be a combination of letters and numbers and cannot be disabled. By default it is set to 10-minutes of inactivity, however this isn't enforced and you can reset this to up to 60-minutes however it cannot be disabled as the 'Password Enabled' checkbox is checked and greyed our. This is a real pain, plus when the policy refreshes itself it resets to 10-minutes. If you are driving with it in a cradle there is no way the password can be entered. With the previous WM6 lock a simpler 4-digit PIN could be used.
I have read the various posts on stopping the 'BlackBerrySecurity(BBD0)' Service to disable this however it doesn't work with this version of BBC (and probably the latest version as well?). Yes it stops the service, but after a period of time (probably the inactivity time?) it puts the device into a state that cannot be 'woken up' - power button doesn't work, incoming phonecalls or SMS do not wake it. All you can do is soft reset it, which makes this supposed workaround unusable.
I have searched high and low and cannot find a way around this annoying 'corporate lock'. I am grasping at straws here but was hoping someone has worked out how to disable or reset this policy? I have read posts on how to remove the IT policy from 'real' BlackBerry devices but none for the WM version of BlackBerry Connect.
Any help is appreciated. And before anyone asks why, asking the IT dept to disable this isn't an option.
Andy
Andy, you have my complete sympathy - I have the same issue. I use Memmaid which can disable this. However, on every soft reset you need to go into Memmaid every time. I have this programme coming up on start-up but I would prefer to be able to do a soft reset on my phone without having to go into Memmaid always....
Does anyone else know how to do this?
Paul
mitsi said:
Andy, you have my complete sympathy - I have the same issue. I use Memmaid which can disable this. However, on every soft reset you need to go into Memmaid every time. I have this programme coming up on start-up but I would prefer to be able to do a soft reset on my phone without having to go into Memmaid always....
Does anyone else know how to do this?
Paul
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Hi Paul,
Do you not also get the 'sleep-of-death' behaviour after you stop the BlackBerry Security service? I could live with disabling the service after a soft-reset as I don't reset it very often. However I also get the 'sleep-of-death' where there is no way of waking the device up after a period of inactivity - only option is a soft-reset.
I am just hoping our IT dept see sense and enable Exchange ActiveSync in the near future....
Andy
mortscript
I have not tried this myself, but here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395390
good luck
I use BlackBerry Connect 4.0.0.103 on my HTC Kaiser running WM6.1. It works fine however I would prefer Exchange ActiveSync. The IT policy that has been
ADB100 said:
Hi Paul,
Do you not also get the 'sleep-of-death' behaviour after you stop the BlackBerry Security service? I could live with disabling the service after a soft-reset as I don't reset it very often. However I also get the 'sleep-of-death' where there is no way of waking the device up after a period of inactivity - only option is a soft-reset.
I am just hoping our IT dept see sense and enable Exchange ActiveSync in the near future....
Andy
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Hi Andy,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I have been trying wwwes' mortscript and have not had any luck yet.
With regard to your question, there is no "sleep-of-death" behaviour after stopping the Blackberry Security Service. There are no after effects at all. If you don't mind having to input your password and then disabling the Blackberry Security Service in MemMaid after soft resetting, then this will definitely work fine for you. You can set your phone up to automatically start MemMaid following a soft reset. You do this by putting a shortcut to MemMaid in your startup folder in the Windows directory. You can even make sure MemMaid starts on the same screen as last visitted by going into advanced tools within the MemMaid programme, so you will only need to tap on the green button next to "Blackberry Security" and then exit MemMaid.... Quite easy, but as soft resetting is such a good thing to clear ram and make programs run quicker/smoother, I want this to be without having to wait 1 minute & then having to do all this faffing about.... I'll post back if wwwes gets back to me with my query on the Mortscript method.
mitsi said:
Hi Andy,
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I have been trying wwwes' mortscript and have not had any luck yet.
With regard to your question, there is no "sleep-of-death" behaviour after stopping the Blackberry Security Service. There are no after effects at all. If you don't mind having to input your password and then disabling the Blackberry Security Service in MemMaid after soft resetting, then this will definitely work fine for you. You can set your phone up to automatically start MemMaid following a soft reset. You do this by putting a shortcut to MemMaid in your startup folder in the Windows directory. You can even make sure MemMaid starts on the same screen as last visitted by going into advanced tools within the MemMaid programme, so you will only need to tap on the green button next to "Blackberry Security" and then exit MemMaid.... Quite easy, but as soft resetting is such a good thing to clear ram and make programs run quicker/smoother, I want this to be without having to wait 1 minute & then having to do all this faffing about.... I'll post back if wwwes gets back to me with my query on the Mortscript method.
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This isn't how my Kaiser behaves, it may have something to do with the version or even the security policy. If I stop the BlackBerry Security Service I always get this 'sleep-of-death' behaviour. I have tested it many times and it is always the same. It is really annoying......
Ah well, apparently our IT dept has realised ActiveSync exists and are testing it at the moment so I might get my wish at some point in the near future...
ADB100 said:
This isn't how my Kaiser behaves, it may have something to do with the version or even the security policy. If I stop the BlackBerry Security Service I always get this 'sleep-of-death' behaviour. I have tested it many times and it is always the same. It is really annoying......
Ah well, apparently our IT dept has realised ActiveSync exists and are testing it at the moment so I might get my wish at some point in the near future...
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Hi Andy,
I wonder - are you stopping the Blackberry Security or deleting it? If you delete it then it will crash on you. Have you tried MemMaid and just stopped the application? I am still trying to get this Mortscript to work, but still no success. I think this would be the answer to our problem because it doesn't interfere with the IT policy.
mitsi said:
Hi Andy,
I wonder - are you stopping the Blackberry Security or deleting it? If you delete it then it will crash on you. Have you tried MemMaid and just stopped the application? I am still trying to get this Mortscript to work, but still no success. I think this would be the answer to our problem because it doesn't interfere with the IT policy.
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Look, believe me I know what I am doing......
I am using DotFred's Task Manager. I open the 'Services' tab, select the 'BlackBerrySecurity(BBDO: )' service and select 'Stop'. This then stops the annoying lock/password screen every 10-minutes. However if the phone goes to sleep for more than 10-minutes you can't wake it back up, all you can do is soft reset it. It doesn't ring, none of the buttons respond - it's in a 'sleep of death' as I described it initially. The only indication it is still alive is the GSM LED flashes.
I am just living with it at the moment and waiting for Exchange ActiveSync to be enabled for my account.
ADB100 said:
Look, believe me I know what I am doing......
I am using DotFred's Task Manager. I open the 'Services' tab, select the 'BlackBerrySecurity(BBDO: )' service and select 'Stop'. This then stops the annoying lock/password screen every 10-minutes. However if the phone goes to sleep for more than 10-minutes you can't wake it back up, all you can do is soft reset it. It doesn't ring, none of the buttons respond - it's in a 'sleep of death' as I described it initially. The only indication it is still alive is the GSM LED flashes.
I am just living with it at the moment and waiting for Exchange ActiveSync to be enabled for my account.
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Bad luck. Sounds like a complete pain in the butt. I couldn't live with having to unlock it every 10 minutes. Chase your IT department up!
Andy,
I have managed to (partly) get the mortscript thing to work. I have got it working so that I do not need to disable the Blackberry security after a soft reset. In fact it is running all the time. The mortscript works nearly in an instant, so won't interrupt you in any way. In any event, it only operates when you are not using it by default!
See this link for details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3712096#post3712096
I hope you can get this working fully on yours..... I can't seem to get it to remove the need for inputting the first password immediately following a soft reset. However, it does work at other times. I am still trying, but am a complete newbie to Mortscript.
Good luck.

Indiscriminate dialing has to stop

hi all,
my HD2 has embarrassed me enough! it dials in my pocket and sometimes answers calls without me knowing. friends and family know too much about me already
I started to set the pin for phone use lock, but it asked my old password. what is that? well I googled for the default pwd, and found a number of threads saying dont use the pin feature, it can forget the correct pin requiring a soft and sometimes hard reset.
if I have anything wrong so far, correct me please.
ok so I want it to be hard to make the phone dial out. ever. in fact, i would like a pin to even answer a call. i dont ever ever wwant another unintended call outta this phone or it will get tossed.
otherwise its a GREAT phone and a great upgrade to my previous advantage 7500
looking for suggestions. i am a basic computer tech, but no expert and definately not a s/w developer, so please if anyone provides advise think you are speaking to a basic-skills user not a developer thank you!
So what is wrong with just using the slide lock. I have never had my phone dial out on me when it's in my pocket.
You may be right. I'm not sure how it happens. Could it be that a reminder popup, or missed call, unlocks the phone?
Also, what is the deal with the pin number feature? Is that really a flawed function to be avoided?
use S2U2...I use that one with the 'activate when phone turned on' part of it...hasn't dialed and got me in trouble since..
cool, what is S2U2, a rom? if so what are the steps to re-rom the HD2? (I did it a long time ago with the 7500 but Im sure that was way different process)
telegraph0000 said:
use S2U2...I use that one with the 'activate when phone turned on' part of it...hasn't dialed and got me in trouble since..
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S2U2= Slide 2 lock Slide 2 Unlock.
Just google S2U2 you'll find it. I used to use it but found that it can have issues with other apps that might be loaded.
As for flashing new ROMs just start reading the stickies in the ROM development section.
hey thanks man, just loaded it. if it works i will donate a few bucks as well to the developer.
question: which apps did you find that it conflicted with?
AdvantageGuy said:
hey thanks man, just loaded it. if it works i will donate a few bucks as well to the developer.
question: which apps did you find that it conflicted with?
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non so far - have been using it on previous phones too and I love it!
OK I have S2U2 installed and have one question.
How can I disable the "emergency call" button? To me that feature somewhat defeats the purpose.

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