MDA II - No Service - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hi, i recently got this MDA II from a friend and finally succeeded in updating it to WM5 and ROM Version 1.72xxxxx T-Mobile (can't remember all the Numbers).
It work's perfectly for everything i wanted it for (Navi, etc.), except for phone calls. After entering the PIN it just says: Searching or No Service.
I tried a SIM from T-Mobile Austria (from where the MDA comes), and also one from Hutchinson Austria (3) - Same Prob. I also tried to unlock it with the unlock tool located on this frorum. I got no error but it told me that the phone already seems to be unlocked.
It's not a big deal for me because i never intended to use it as a phone replacement, but somehow it's bothering me a bit.
I don't know if the ROM upgrade from 1.6xxx to 1.72xxx is the Problem. To tell the true i don't even know from where I got this newer ROM. The only thing i know it was not from T-Mobile Austria.
I already found a Version from T-Mobile Austria (RUU16008GER_TMobile), but this Version is very old and I don't know if it's worth the risk of downgrading.
Can someone please give me an advice on what to do?
Thanks in advance

first of all then 1.66 and 1.72 are not wm5 roms at all they are just the last offical roms for these devices and they are wm2003 roms
second then they are roms not radiostacks (radiostacks are the software for the gsm module)
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=132&func=select&id=26
list of various radeostacks
personaly i use 1.19

Thank you, as you can see i'm a total newbee to this topic.
Is there somwhere a detailed manual for upgrading the radiostacks?

HimaUpgradeUt.exe
upgrade
rom if nk.nbf is present in the dir
and
radiostack if Radio_.nbf is present in the dir
so if you want to upgrade the radiostack along with the rom
one just make sure both of the files are present in the dir
if one wish to upgrade 1 of the 2 simply remove the other nbf file
same deal with extended rom

Thank you
Ok, i tried the 1.19 Radio Stack together with the Hima_-_Helmi_AKU3.5_ROM_SP2 ROM.
The update progress proceeded fine but i still have the same problem.
edit: Wow after 5 Minutes i've got a connection with A1 (right now i'm trying a Hutschinson SIM witch connects via GPRS automatically to A1)

Ok, i tried Roms Stack 1.19, 1.17 and 1.08.
On some certain locations i get a signal, but in general the signal is very poor.
I'm not shure but maybe the couse of the problem is the phones hardware itself, and not the software?

maybe
dont know about where you live but here i dont have too many issues
but the htc phones i had have in general had a poor signal then nokia and the likes
and poor conversation quality
you could try giving other sim cards a go as some older sims have had issues with htc phones in the past

I just wanted to inform everyone that you where right (again ).
Today i tried a newer Prepaid SIM from A1.
Now i get a full Signal from everywere in my house.

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Special Edition WM2003 Rom?

ok, i have installed the special edition rom for my xda1 and its a definate improvement over the original rom..
but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
of course, if there was a xda-developers special edition rom based on wm2003 that would be the best solution... :?
Nas
There are many WM 2003 ROMs and most of them works quite fine ... try the kitchen at www.yorch.net or http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
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but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
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Where is the WM2003 upgrade from O2??????
Give me alink to download please...
Stefan
I didnt know there was one, anybody else seen it?
nope i cant see it.
my bad
soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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Just do it, upgrade it! I upgraded my Siemens SX56 with AT&T to 2003 and than cooked the rom from Yorch to unlock. By the way, it is a very good rom, thanks Yorch.
I did it with SD cards one of my XDA's, it worked perfect and quick: saved 2003 rom on one card, cooked Yorche's on another. The saving and installation was done through the bootloader as discribed in the proceedures in frequently asked questions section. The extracting and saving of Yorche's rom was done through OSImageTool in XDAtools into an SD card inserted in a USB card reader/writer (Inland 9 in 1 card Reader/Writer, $10 at Micro Center). The battery was fully charged on my SX56 and the flashing of rom's back and forth was done without the XDA being pluged to power unit. I tested the unlocking with a T-Mobile card, it recognised it, I made some phone calls with no problems, kept Yorch cooked rom for two days to get to know it and then flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in my friends apartment just to show off how easy it is to flash the rom. it worked very well (it took about 5 minutes).
The 2nd SX56 was done all through ActiveSync with the XDA and card reader/writer pluged in and all synchronised (allscreen savers, power savers etc on PC and XDA OFF and battery charged). This XDA still had the original 2002 rom. The unlocking went very smooth. I did a full back up of the rom with ActiveSync. Since the cooked rom is PW10A1 and mine was PW10B1 I needed to get back my original rom to the XDA. The restore didn't work because it is a different partnership. So I flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in a card reader/writer and OSImadeTool through ActiveSync. Everything was fine all the way to hard reset. I waited a minuteor so and did a hard reset and nothing happened, did it couple of times, nothing. It would not restart. I pressed the power botton and it went to bootloader mode. I did soft reset and the unit goes blank, dead. So I inserted the SD card with my 2003 rom into the XDA's memory slot and did the the bootloader mode, it took it, I flashed it. And now I have my 2nd SX56 with 2003 rom and the old radio stack ulocked working like a champ. I tasted with T-Mobile card and it works instantly, no configurations needed. Now I have to do a complete upgrade.
After all I like the new 2003 better but with some of the programs from Yorch Kitchen rom, which I installed and they work fine.
You, ladies and gentlemen, at XDA-Developers are the greatest thing that happened to the mobile devices community. I honor you and thank you. And Peter Poelman, you are the wizard, thank you.
John
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
tommy_kiss79 said:
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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Look here for the answers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ
and here to cook the rom:
www.yorch.net
check what you want or don't want and click Build ROM now, after it is done click Download. Before you build and download choose which file you want, exe or nb1. What ever you do backup your original rom preferably and safer to an SD card either through OSImageTools in XDATools and ActiveSync or the mode and the SD card pluged into your XDA
bootloader, and read the forum in details...
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
Good luck, John
saracen said:
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
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John (and any others out there),
I hope that I'm not asking something here that is covered in some faq on this board and I think I've read them all, but...
I see mention of a lot of versions. 4.00.21, 4.00.01, A30.05, A30.09 etc...
Is there someone that can tell us new guys a little more about these? IE, what is it exactly, 2003, 2002, beta, final, alpha?
I recently bought a Wallaby, and want very much to use the MS Voice Command. Therefore, I have a definate need for a 2003 rom. I have read and reread the forums here and have a good handle on how to flash my rom, but I'm so confused as to what the best (read most reliable) rom to install, as well what radio version would work with the given rom choice. I'm not necessarily asking for a recommendation, but perhaps a nudge in the write direction.
Sorry to dump on you in particular, nothing personal either mind you! It's just that I'd love to read a FAQ for the different versions and what might be expected from them I guess. (I hope like heck I'm making sense here!)
Thanks!
Larry
Hello,
Actually, the only difference between ROM versions is bug fixing with newer versions, but the only significant factor is whether it's PPC 2002 or WM 2003 ROM.
For upgrading, I may recommend TMO 4.01.00 (my personal preference) or A30.09 (with a minor sound issue). If you need to unlock your device you must start with PPC2002 3.17 ROM first then select any WM2003 later.
There is no connection between the ROM and RSU. However, the RSU is the most sensitive part in the XDA. If you have a functioning RSU ... do NOT touch it!!
Last, get a SD card and take a backup ... it's safer and you can use the SD to upgrade as well.
Good luck ...
This is to Larry,
All these replies take you through the right directions. I have two Siemens SX56 devices with AT&T Wireless, both PW10B1, Pocket PC2002 (Ver. 3.0.12039), ROM Ver. A.20.17 ENG, RADIO Ver. A.20.10, 32MB Rom.
1st one I upgraded the day AT&T and Siemens released the Mobile 2003 free upgrade. As much as people complained, cursed and were distroying there SX56 devices ( what I read on AT&T forums) I never had any problems, and as a matter of fact the more I used the device the better it became. I played with it for about two weeks and then I decided to unlock it. So I placed my SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader, downloaded the original 2003 Rom image, soft reset the device. I cooked the Special Edition Rom based on 3.17.03 O2 ROM in Yorch Kitchen, I built the nb1 file, I downloaded, extracted with WinZip, put it on another SD card, put the card in my SX56 device, started the bootloader, flashed it, did a hard reset. It didn't ask me if I wanted to unlock it but the XDAunlock program was there, I taped it, it asked me if I want to unlock, I did. I checked it with a T-Mobile sim card, made a phone call with no problem (I tested with the same card before and after, before asked me for the pin number and after it logged in to T-Mobile network). I used it with the Special Edition Rom for about a week to see which programs I liked and wanted to install on my device after I flash back to saved Mobile 2003 Rom. I flashed it back with the 2003 Rom image. I was on the road, away from power supply, my pc, usb ports etc. Just the unit with its battery charged up, the SD card and the bootloader. It took 5 minutes.
My 2nd SX56 device I did before the 2003 upgrade, the original 2002 still there, with ActiveSync, OSImageTool in XDATools, SD cards, card reader/writer and nb1 file. This time I overlooked the saving of the original 2002 Rom and it went directly into the flashing with the Special Edition Rom cooked in Yorch Kitchen. I unlocked it, tested with T-Mobile sim card and flashed it back with the the Mobile 2003 Rom image saved from my 1st SX56 device. It didn't want to wake up after the hard reset. It kept going to the bootloader mode. So I inserted the SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader , flashed it back again with Mobile 2003 Rom, did a hard reset. It worked. Now I have my 2nd SX56 with new mobile 2003 Rom but old, the original Radio Stack from Pocket PC 2002. It works fine. The working is like the Upgraded 2003 device. Maybe with the older radio Stack is more stable on the signal, and I don't know for sure because I did not tested, only what I read and the people having problems. My preference is a total upgrade, the Rom and the Radio Stack, I noticed that the audio quality is better with the total upgrade, specialy when on the speaker phone during a phone call.
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
saracen said:
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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Thanks, guys!
I kind of knew that the differences were a matter of bug fixes, what I wasn't sure of is which is 2003 or 2002. I'm going to keep reading here of course. This is a fantastic site to be sure!
So, bottom line is I guess I'm just going to pick a couple of them and flash them and play with them so which works the best.
Many thanks again guys! Larry
Larry,
Yes, exactly. I forgot to say that my new rom is an AT&T- Siemens: ROM Ver. A.30.09 ENG, Radio Stack A.33.02. The previous Rom version had a band switch (900 for Europe or 1900 for Americas) in the Settings and under Phone but now with the new it has an auto configuration which I like better. I can always search the network manually. By accident I found that if you set it to manual and don't have a network specified or any signal strength showing as long as the phone is turned ON, I can still get on Internet.
Good luck, John
One final ?
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
I first came to xda-developers when I was trying to use my Qtek as a modem....thereafter we saw the O2 and Qtek PPC (2002) upgrades that brought in the Wmodem utility.
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though.
Cheers
Sands
Sandyind said:
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though
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IMHO, the new PCs/laptops with either built-in WiFi or WLAN functions or with equivalent PCMCIA cards, or even with SIM module inside, made it out of the wishlist
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sandyind said:
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
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The German Version 4.00.33 from t-mobile comes with the wmodem application
HTH
Stefan
Stefan,
Is there an English version of Mobile 2003 with wireless modem for PW10B1 XDA?
Thanks, John
Can't receive USA Cingular signal 850mhz- Help Anyone?
I've posted on some other forums but no-one seems to have an answer. Can an unlocked AT&T SX56 be adjusted to work on the Cingular 850mhz system?
Help!!
Doc

Please help i have put the wrong radio in my old XDA1

Hi all,
Could someone please advise me if i have a XDA1 or a paperweight, I use a XDA2, but as i had a old 32MB XDA1 with what looked like the version befor PPC2002 i thort i would be clever and put a 2003 rom on it.
its a uk 900/1800 PW10A1 device, anyway with delay i dowloaded the latest 2003 rom i could find ( T-Mobile 2003 4.21 beta) anyway i put the relevent file on a SD ard and upgraded that way.
As this had lots of T-Mobile bits i did not wont i found a older non network branded 2003 rom. but my problem is the devve is now listed as a PW10B1, and of ocrse i cant use 1800 anymore, ( iam in the uk and was going to use it on Orange (1800),
I have read throught the forum and tried many ways to fix this with various roms and then in the phone section changing bands , also bootloader all with no affect, the best i can get is a fresh earlie clean 2003 rom but only working 900mhz.
Dose anyone have any ideas last resorts how i can make it work on 1800 like it did befor i jumped in head first and not reading that the t-mobile 2003 rom will make it a 900/1900 device
any idea even if it compleetly kills it it was wort a try
Thanks
John
do a search in the forums there have been tons of posts about how you downgrade the radio stack
personaly i dont know because
the main reason we use xdatools to upgrade our devices to
so we can use the nbf file only making sure the radio stack is not
messed with
Thanks Rudegar
I have tried downgrading the radio, some times it works and sometimes it dose not I either end up with no radio or as i have at the moment a radio stuck on 900mhz, i have found 6 or 7 different radios but none will let me use 1800,
Is there a way i can kill the radio the hopefully get it to restore to the original
Thanks
John

Latest radio for AT&T wireless

Hi,
I have Siemens SX-56 ROM 3.04.00, radio A.20, Protocol 324e4. I'm AT&T wireless customer which was bought by Cingular. What is latest radio version I can load on a phone?
G
Curious as well
Cingular did something to the AT&T network in the Greater Salt Lake area, and now my network is stuck on 310410 (a cingular network I read)... but my phone can't take/place calls 80% of the time now, and I haven't been able to send a single SMS since then... this started about Jun-15-2005... any ideas?
I think I'm good now...
Cooked a Rom in LumpiStefans Romkitchen, WM2003 Final, ROM A.30.09 ENG (Update Siemens had available online once upon a time). This got rid of the 310410 Network ID (well, at least the name is now Cingular, same network)... didn't seem to fix my connectivity issues.
So, after reading what I could on the updateing the Radio ROM, I installed RSU_V6.25.02. This seems to have done the trick, calls, in and out and SMS are all working as expected again... I'll try and post another update later tomorrow after I have had the device up for a bit.
artisticcheese, I suggest you try this combo out, see if that helps your situation... Use the WIKI to find the radio roms... and go to http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/ and cook up a similar OS ROM.
Good luck. Ive been fortunate, that all of my tinkering has been painless... although that is the only radio upgrade I tried, I had been playing around with various OS roms prior to this trying to aliviate my issues with out issue, but without improving my situation... 8)
PS. Previously I was at Radio V 6.12 (not listed anywhere)... forget what the original ROM was...
Fixed.
For sure. Any luck yourself?

strange behavior of wizard

hello, i've got problem with network or gsm modul or also with soft,
i have updateg radio from 1.12.10 to 1.13.10 because i thought that earlier ver had a bug and my phone lost net due this. With new radio rom it has lost net 3 times during one day yet. Is there someone who knows how to resolve this problem it's become stressfull for me... grrrr
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i found somethig more, after it has lost net it looks like fine and you can't see any diferences (there is still some bars indicates network range, led is blinking) but you can't perform any connections... phone also is not able to answer call
i'am traying to find when it hapen or after what but help me please
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BR
Rafal
Please tell us your make of wizard and the rom, maybe a whole rom upgrade will solve your problems.
hi!,
my wizard it's a mda from era (polish t mobile)
ver 1.6.2.8 PLK
date 11/1/05
radio 1.13.10
protocol 4.0.13.24
extend 1.6.2.116
and one thing more, after ended gprs connection i can see restart of gsm, bars are blinking and it log on to net again without requesting pin code, but the problem is i can't make call and answer after soft reset everything backs good
Can suggest using a more up to date rom, not sure if there is a newer PLK rom, but what about a WWE rom?
ok i'll try this but let me know if i can find it on XDA ftp? and which one is it
i have got this phone 2 weeks ago and i still try to lern sth new about it
merci beacoup for Your help
Try the polish t-mobile web site first to see if they have any updated plk roms.
If not most mda users here are using qtek rom ftp://xda:[email protected]_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
Download above rom, user name xda password xda
Backup all important information as everything will be lost.
Unlock device - super cid is best get unlocker from here and follow instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796
After unlocking flash device with above rom via activesync
Hope that helps
The behaviour of disconnecting from the network and reconnecting without asking for PIN sounds familiar to me.
I think it is caused by bad connections to the SIM.
I have a dual sim and afterhaving modified it too much i my sims did not make good contact. It occurred more than once that my phone switched sims without me having 'said'to do so (switchin sims is done by powering off/on radio wich looks a bit the same to the dual sim adapter as fawlty contacts).
Advice; clean the contacts of both sim and phone before you upgrade (although I can recommend an upgrade to aku 2 roms)
i had upgrated to this one - prodigy......WWE_ship from xda ftp and now i'm waiting for problems maybe there will be no problems ...
big thanks to Those of You that answer my questions ... thx

Qtek 2020 - no locks, but seeing service only from 1 operator

Hi all,
I'm seeing this strange thing. I have received a Qtek 2020, and I tried to use it with my sim (TIM, Italian Telecom) but I can't see network service, under any circumnstance. Then I swapped my sim card with a Vodafone IT one, and I've seen full signal immediately. Trying to change to another operator like Italian "Wind", took me just as the very 1st step: no signal at all. I tried to change radio rom/os rom, and running unlock tools (they said it's all unlocked). Nothing changed.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks in advance!
Marco
mk_bulgarion said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing this strange thing. I have received a Qtek 2020, and I tried to use it with my sim (TIM, Italian Telecom) but I can't see network service, under any circumnstance. Then I swapped my sim card with a Vodafone IT one, and I've seen full signal immediately. Trying to change to another operator like Italian "Wind", took me just as the very 1st step: no signal at all. I tried to change radio rom/os rom, and running unlock tools (they said it's all unlocked). Nothing changed.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks in advance!
Marco
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Wich radio version is in the mda ????
Try updating it to the latest version seeupgrading part
Hi, thanks for the reply (i was away for holidays )
I've tried *all* of the Radio ROMs for the device (found on buzz's site). Also for the OS rom and extended, when in 2003. Just don't know what else to do!
some older sims are incompatible
some people have reported success with
getting their operator sending them a newer
sim
Already tried!
It seems that works with the old ones as well as with the new ones (my sister has a 6-years-old card from Vodafone, and it WORKS!), but just from that vendor.
I'll just drop it in a trash can!

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