Hello,
I've searched exhaustively to no avail.
Currently using WM6 ROM 3.57.502.1 Radio 1.48.00.00
and PhoneAlarm 1.61.1 build#176
The device is behaving properly when notifying me of missed calls/text/v.mail (as in NOT turning on the backlight, just notify), but IS turning on for the following two situations:
1. When a new email is received. I'm using direct push. It is set NOT to notify me at all, both in PhoneAlarm and Sounds/Notifications. As such I get no audible notification, but the backlight still turns on.
2. When a reminder comes on, the backlight activates as well.
Of course in PhoneAlarm, I have "Don't activate backlight on alarm" checked, but it is ineffective with the above two.
The annoyance is that it turns on in my pocket and a bunch of buttons start getting pressed (by walking, etc) and when I finally look at the device all hell has broken loose.
Thanks in advance for any insight on this issue.
Exact similar problem with me. In my case the backlight turns on for reminders. One thing is strange. When I have a reminder the backlight turns on. I have set the reminder frequency as 5 minutes and the backlight to turn off in 3 minutes. So what happens is that for the first three times the backlight would come on but not for subsequent times.
I had also discussed this with Bruce on the phonealarm forum but to no avail. He believes that phonealarm has nothing to do with this and there is something in the device which is causing this.
Can somebody please check if your backlight also comes on only for the first three times.
Regards
Related
For some reason my device has suddenly started switching to the minimum backlight setting whenever it's switched on. If I go to the backlight settings and then adjust the slider it will stay at the selected brightness until it switches off. When it switches back on again it's at minimum brightness and I can hardly see the screen!
This started happening after I installed and then removed PocketZenPhone.
I don't really want to hard-reset the device unless I absolutely have to - does anyone know what registry key sets the default switch-on brightness?
Thanks,
I dont have the solution but I have had the same problem intermittently. Can be really aggravating in the dark because it can be hard to get to the proper screen to increase the backlight. Hasnt happened in a while. Have not been able to figure out what triggers it. Have not installed PocketZenPHone. Curious if anyone has an explanation.
yah, i've noticed this to, sometimes i'll hit the power button to take it off standby and the backlight would be off. first couple of times it scared the hell out of me cuz i thought the screen had broke or burnt out.
also i noticed the version of spb pocket plus i'm using (3.04 build 4195) doesnt adjust the backlight brightness.
Now that you mention it. the SPB Pocket plus backlight does not work for me either. Strange...
Well I think I've managed to "fix" this by setting the following;
Backlight Settings:
On battery power, turn off backlight if device is not used for [5 min]
Turn on backlight when a button is pressed or the screen is tapped
Power Settings
On battery power: Turn off device if not used for [3 minutes]
I think the key thing here is to have the device auto-switch-off BEFORE the backlight timer kicks in. Since setting the above three settings I have not had the same problem again.
Ill give it a try as well.
Hmm...maybe someone can help me. One day, my backlight timer settings when the PDA's not plugged in reset to 10 seconds (in the registry it has it as 7 seconds). I'll go in and change it to 2 minutes (the original setting I had it at), but the minute I turn it off, it resets back again to the 10 seconds setting. I even tried going into the registry and changing it, and it resets it back to 10 seconds. I suspect it may have something to do with an entry in the "scheduled tasks" but it looks like a complete mess. Is there some kind of scheduled tasks cleanup utility?
Thanks,
Q
hello i have the same problem using phothet with WM6
Thanks
Nicolas
I had the same problem often about 15 months ago - it happened often each day.
I posted herw but had no joy with a solution - but then found one on Modoco (i was looking about March/April 2006).
Even with that - it has still done if perhaps five or six times since - and basically makes the phone unusuable if it happens somewhere or time with poor light.
My KJam backlight keeps changing by itself to dark
Suddenly my KJam backlight always turns to low without me doing so, then I have to change it to high, barely can see what I’m doing as it is almost black. This is kept happening especially after I installed Pocketweather. I reinstalled the Rom, it worked fine then suddenly it is back again when I switch the screen off, or automatically it is switched off, the backlight slider I find it at the lowest end.
Why thus is happening, it’s driving me crazy, please help me
Cingular 8125
I have 3 issues...
1. The backlight seems to shut itself off every once in a while. I'll try to wake the phone from sleep mode only to notice there is no light, so I have to move the phone near a light source to see the dimmed screen and work my way to the backlight setting and increase it back to normal.
This happened once while I was driving
Is there a cure for this problem?
Also, I noticed spb pocket plus's backlight slider on my today screen does not work, nor do the shortcut commands it has for backlight up/down/loop etc.
2. When I was testing a new ringtone, I called my phone from another phone. I noticed it does not receive the call on the first ring. It receives it on the 2nd ring. I can hang up during or right after the first ring and not have it come up on my phone. Is this normal?
3. Alarm bug. This %$#@ lead me to hard-reset my phone 3 times already. When my phone is in sleep mode and an alarm triggers, sometimes the phone won't wake, but keeps playing the alarm. I wake the phone manually only to notice there is no alarm notification, but a flashing orange light and constant alarm sound and vibration. A soft-reset seemed to make the problem worse. Finally, I found a program called memMaid which lets me delete notifications and duplicate notifications etc. Is this the best method to cure this problem?
Thanks in advance.
With the backlight, do you have it on charge at the time of it messing up?
i've had this issue but only when the phone was on charge.
if i unplugged the phone, backlight came back and then i simply plugged it back in
other than that, no cure that i've found. what software version are you using?
for the alarm, not seen that, i have noticed that recently i've had the alarm apparently going off (but it hasnt!) and then almost 2 hours later, i have a msg saying "alarm" with the dismiss button and the time of when it was supposed to go off. very odd. luckily i have a nokia 6230i that i use as my alarm clock.
and for the calls... i have the same problem but only when i copy over my SMS back onto the device. after hard reset its fine, but as soon as my msgs go back, i think the phone mem gets slower. (i have 1600 sms now on the phone with about 300 contacts with pictures)
I have the same issue with sms where the phone will light up, 5 seconds after it recieves the sms... so i'm guessing thats the same as the phone side, it lights up on my end, 3-5 secs later it rings (which is eqiv to one ring on their side so it hangs up after 2 more rings).
very strange issues though, i hope softwre updates fix it because it is annoying me now!
also have an issue with my camera where if you dont X out of it, then dont expect it to load again unless you reset the phone. it just shows the "egg timer" and thats it. useless camera software but great pda/phone. again luckily i have a camera always with me anyway.
Only thing i have experience with this is for 1).
I still get that backlight problem.
It started happening when i installed PocketZenPhone beta.
After every soft reset, if i let the phone go into standby or the let the backlight time out, the backlight setting will go all the way to the lowest.
I don't know how to fix this bug, only thing i've done to sort with it is have a Today Screen launcher set up so that i have an icon that leads directly to the backlight setting, so whenever it dims on me, i'm 2 thumb pushes away.
Actually, this is the first time i saw this, when i installed zen on mine too!
It was then i realised that if you unplugged the power supply then replug it in, it fixed it
in the end, i got fed up of zen's stability or the lack off so i removed it, hard reset etc
it still happens but very rarely, and when it does, its just because i've turned it off and on while it was on the power supply
i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??
i have the same freaking problem with backlight. not sure what the deal is but very very annoying. is there a fix to this problem??
Mine had the occasional "backlight set to off" (i.e. pushing the 5-way would NOT turn it back on - had to use Control Panel applet) problem too. I never used Pocket Zen Phone on this phone (have on others in the past) but did use both SPB pocket plus and Phone Alarm.
I think the problem is somehow related to apps that try to control the backlight. As you've noted, SPB's backlight applets don't do anything, I think that PZP and Phone Alarm, as part of their attempts to control the backlight in their profiles mess it up somehow.
What i did was limit my profiles in PA to only two, and make sure both of them were set exactly the same way as far as controlling the backlight:
o Both profiles have backlight set to 50% all the time
o Both profiles set to power off the backlight at 3 minutes on both AC and battery
o Both profiles set to suspend the device at 2 mins on battery (so never getting to the "backlight only power-off" setting above).
o Having the backlight go dark on AC is new for me, but it keeps it consistent with the battery setting, but it's no biggie and if it ain't broke...plus if I touch any button it comes back on
I also removed SPB pocket plus and found some freebie utilities that do what I wanted from SPB.
So I'm not positive it's related, but doing these three things and i haven't had the light go dark since. Every once in a while after a reboot the light does go dark, but hitting any button or the 5-way brings it back so it's not the same "setting has been set to no backlight at all" problem I was having, and only seems to occur soon after a reboot, and then not again.
-JMS
i fixed my problem by flashing rom over with 2.17 US version.
Anyone know how to get the backlight back to the original setting? I tried to go into Settings to Battery Icon and clicked on Backlight and adjusted it there but everytime the phone goes into sleep mode, the backlight always reverts to power saver mode and I cant see a damn thing on my screen. It is very frustrating...anyone know how to correct this problem? Am I doing something wrong???? TIA....M3
I have the same problem, but in my Wisard the problem happens when a soft reset is executed ... I was searching about it on the internet and I found that maybe the problem is an incopatibility between the fone and the SPB Pocket Plus backlight functionality ... I will try to uninstall the SPB to see what happens ...
Here's my backlight bug theory...
On the Wizard there are problems with any programs that try to change the backlight settings and often the result is they end up turning it off.
PocketZenPhone, PhoneAlarm and SPB Pocket Plus all have features to control the backlight (do you have the backlight plugin installed on your today screen?) that load at boot, or on the Today screen, and these seem to cause problems.
I use PhoneAlarm and have problems on occasion. Believe it or not I found the solution was to tell PA to set the backlight at 40% which it can't be set to on the Wizard (25% increments only) and it stops shutting it off. If I have it set for 50% (which *is* valid on the Wizard) it shuts it off.
Anyway this is my theory on the mysterious backlight bug, if anybody else has any other ideas, I'd love to hear them.
-JMS
If you go to the backlight applet and check the Turn on backlight when a button is pressed or the screen is tapped on both the Battery Power and External Power tabs you should be all set. Had the same issue after the last iMate ROM update and this is what fixed it.
Hope it works for you. Good luck.
db
Perhaps someone has an explanation why my backlight doesnt light up again when a button is pressed?
From time to time, the backlight goes dark and even though I am pressing buttons, screen, power button, etc, the backlight doesnt come back on. I have to search for the backlight adjuster (in the dark) in order to switch the light back on.
I have wisbar advanced and SpbPocketPlus installed - might that effect this somehow??
Thanks for any advice!
i have exactly the same problem and don´t know a solution. ;-(
Wisbar Advance 2.6.0.1 is installed, SpbPocketPlus not.
I think it comes more often if i use the camera, but it is not reproduceable...
I've never had this problem before, I dont have wisbar installed.
You may be doing a press and hold function on your device. Quick press of the power turns it off, a long press turns off the backlight. the only way to turn it back on is to long press the power button.
also you have settings that turns the back light screen off, which may be affecting this.
This problem used to occur on the O2 XDA2i ALL THE TIME!
Just my 2 cents. Sorry, not very helpful, but defo a problem we've seen before. You hvae to go into settings to start the backlight back up.
Squuiid said:
This problem used to occur on the O2 XDA2i ALL THE TIME!
Just my 2 cents. Sorry, not very helpful, but defo a problem we've seen before. You hvae to go into settings to start the backlight back up.
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It hasnt happened lately (actually ever I posted this thread strangely enough) but its quite embarrassing when you have to find your way through a dark screen.
I put a large symbol of the brightness adjuster in one corner (using SpbPocketPlus), so I only have to find that symbol rather then start --> settings --> etc..... its not a cure but it makes it easier switching it back on.
If anyone has a remedy for this problem, please share...
Not sure why this happens, but I fixed it using...
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showpost.php?p=728080&postcount=27
This app - run on your prophet, and all is back to normal. Keep a copy on your SD card...
--Tosh
didn't help
I tried and still use the neo backlight fix. But this fix is only for forcing via startup a longer measured time for the light to stay on.
I too have suffered with the problem of the backlight not coming on every now and again after starting up the prophet. I've had this problem on numerous roms too which is interesting. What more interesting is that even in the days of my owning a Blue Angel (Orange M2000, MDA) I STILL remember having this intermittent problem with the light not always coming on. Only way I fixed it was to simply soft reset the device. Whenever I did that and when I do it now, it stops it happening for week or so at least.
I still use the neo back light fix too as my phone has the quick light turn off problem without it. Neo certainly created a good fix no mistaking.
All the best
Nicholas
i had the same problem...just put the same value to the standby and backlight ...( both 3 mins on mine)...and never happened again....i think it helps...
I have a strange backlight & power-off problem on my Qtek S200:
When the backlight is switched on and I press the Power button shortly to switch it to sleep mode, the screen gets blank but the backlight does not go off.
So now I wait first when the backlight timer goes off before switching the device to sleep mode manually.
Another problem:
When the power settings is set to switch the device off automatically, it reboots when the timer goes off. So my solution is to disable the auto power-off feature.
How to fix this to the original behaviour ?
I tried the neo_backlight_fix and set the backlight timeout to the same value as the standby timeout, but with no avail.
My Qtek S200 has still the original old ROM (G4 model) and Windows Mobile 5.0:
ROM version info:
IPL: 2.10.001
SPL: 2.10.001
GSM: 02.07.20
OS: 2.10.7.25
Please help me to solve the problem.
Maybe I messed up a lot and the only solution is to install a newer ROM which is available since some time at qtek.nl.
Thanks in advance.
So I've got the problem where when my phone is off/standby I don't get a notification or alert until I turn the phone on at which point it plays the standard alert and vibrate (this is of course useless).
Playing around and I noticed that this problem goes away when I uncheck the setting 'Turn device off after X mins'.
Now, at first I assume that there were 3 modes on the HD (and presumably on all htc phones) and they are: Power off, standby, on. Those states seem self explanitory. Give that assumption, I always thought that there was just a problem with the sms program doing a notification.
With this new solution, ie, disabling auto turn off, all my text messages come through with a notification within 6 seconds of sending it on the other end. But I played around with it some more. Some of you may know of a program called psshutxp. This program can do three things: display off, turn off, and reset. Now I never used this turn off feature before because I assumed it just turned the phone off. I activated this function with the auto turn off setting disabled (the phone doesn't auto turn off) and end up not receiving messages (exactly like the original problem).
What I've concluded then is that the device actually has 4 states: Power off, standby, display off, on. Now if you read the whole thing you may have noticed that I'm implying the solution is to disable auto off and thus leave the device in what would appear to be 'display off' mode. It works, certainly, but I'm starting to think that battery life is going to suffer immensely. (I'm going to test this tonight)
It seems we're back to square one, but wth a little, and albiet minor conclusion: SMS messages should wake the device but leave the screen off. There have been some intermediate solutions that say to change the 'disable device wake on sms' registry from 1 to 0 or use HD tweak to achieve a similar effect then combine this change with a good screen locker.
My question then is, is it possible to wake the device but leave the screen off via registry or via resident program?
Investigating the resident program option some more, is it possible to run compact framework programs while the device is in standby?
Finally, I know that the Touch Diamond 2 had a recent hotfix for this exact issue. Considering the similarities between the two devices, is it possible to port a solution? I'm going to see if I can try it out myself (but I'm not as experienced at platform modifications as I am in software development). I also noticed that a lot of Diamond 2 users still report the problem wasn't solved with that hotfix.
check out the HD Tweak app, i think it has a "wake on SMS" tweak you can apply to the phone. would also help if you mention if you're using a Stock or custom ROM. in my case, i'm using a custom ROM with SMS Chat and i'm gettting SMS notifications with my device in stand-by mode. fyi, i'm not using the HD Tweak app...
Yeah, the Wake on SMS on HD tweak as mentioned in my post basically modifies the registry for device wake on SMS.
However, this is not, and should not be normal behaviour as waking the device turns the screen on as well. (unless your device is different in that it doesn't turn on the screen at the same time as waking up from a SMS, if this is the case, then... that's a pretty significant finding.)
just tested my device... screen is off (e.g., hit the power button to turn it off) sent myself a txt via my email account, heard the SMS notification and screen is still off. i'm using a custom ROM miri v26.2.
I can achieve the same effect by disabling auto turn off. As in: my device remains off and the SMS notification is properly sounded. (everything works as it should)
However, I worry that the device isn't actually in standby and rather just has the display off (which means that background apps are still running). A possible concequence could be that it would drain my batt pretty fast ( this is my cheif concern).