My gf and I just got 8525's. I've installed LOTS of stuff (resco and spb) on mine, and some stuff on her's. Hers has been locking up like crazy lately, so we took off all the spb and resco today plugins, and that didn't help. We are going to uninstall the PTT fix and the devicelock cab to see if that helps.
But is there any way to see what program is causing the hang!? Like an "event viewer" like windows has!?!?
Cause my phone is working fine, but whenever I go to "phone" under system, it hangs. I'm guessing it happens because I changed my ringtone DIR to my SD card. But I changed it back to /windows now, and it still hangs. I want to be able to get into it, but dunno what is messing it up. I also have SPB Phone suite, so I turned off the notifications and phone profiles thinking that might help, but no go.
PLEASE help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try doing a hard reset.. it's in settings > system > clear storage
I know I could do that, but I'd rather not have to go through and reinstall all the programs. I'd rather just find out what program is causing the problems, so I know to uninstall it....
illestone said:
My gf and I just got 8525's. I've installed LOTS of stuff (resco and spb) on mine, and some stuff on her's. Hers has been locking up like crazy lately, so we took off all the spb and resco today plugins, and that didn't help. We are going to uninstall the PTT fix and the devicelock cab to see if that helps.
But is there any way to see what program is causing the hang!? Like an "event viewer" like windows has!?!?
Cause my phone is working fine, but whenever I go to "phone" under system, it hangs. I'm guessing it happens because I changed my ringtone DIR to my SD card. But I changed it back to /windows now, and it still hangs. I want to be able to get into it, but dunno what is messing it up. I also have SPB Phone suite, so I turned off the notifications and phone profiles thinking that might help, but no go.
PLEASE help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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had same prob. Took out SPB and all is fine. I was running WM5 then ... and had lots of hang-ups ( Phone becomes disfunctional), I just recently updated to WM6 and I am having way better experience with my HTC 8525.
I was hopeing someone wouldn't say that
I have:
Spb Phone Suite
Spb Mobile Shell
and LOVE them....I really only use the Suite for notification reminders (like when I miss a call or sms, it reminds me every 5 mins) I also use resco explorer (today plugin).
But on my gf's phone, we already took out all SPB products, and it's still hanging. I guess I could run MemMaid to maybe clean up the reg or something....
I still don't know why hers would be acting up when mine has LOADS more stuff on it....
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Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
it's been like that from the first version of windows CE
i suppose that because of slow cpu and mem
and such ms believed that keeping the applications running
would inc the response time of the pda so they would not
seem slugish compared to palm and other pda os's
This is a Windows Mobile 2003 'feature' :roll:
There are programs available to close the program down completely.
I have my personal favourite, by far, and is completely free. I can't remember the name of it and I'm currently updating my ROM, but as soon as that's done, I'll look in ActiveSync and let you know.
chopper32uk said:
Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
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Certainly one of the thing's that I've found since the recent XDAII ROM update is that closing apps down via the Tast Manager has caused the OS to crash out with the message 'A unhandled error has occurred in the shell.' type message (has only happened a couple of times). The only way forward from this is a soft reset.
Nutz
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ? It could be that instead of clicking what you think is the close button, you are actually clicking the Today Screen icon ?
As regards Task Managers, the best I have come across and use all the time is PocketNav. Here is a link for it.
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
This app allows you to see currently running programs and flip between them with ease. You can also close or close all programs from this menu too.
Hope this helps.
Rgds,
Rob.
WisBar Advance
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/wisbar
Highly recommended, very small memory footprint, very fast and highly customizable. Oh, and FREE. If you get it, make sure you download an XP skin. Don't use the bundled ones
EDIT: Just so you know, it doesn't officially support Phone Edition. To turn the phone on/off via the taskbar, you have to close WisBar to access the icon.
Rob_B said:
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ?
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I'm just using the O2 Active Task Manager (the little arrow on the bottom of the screen) that comes by default with the OS (haven't got round yet to installing a decent Task Manager - will check out the suggestions made here!).
Nutz
WisBar Advance is one of the better ones that I've used but I will not give PocketNav a go, as there is a HUGE problem with WisBar and the XDAII.
Once you recive a call and access a notification (missed call, SMS things like that). You will not be able to recive any calls after that, if you ring your XDAII from another phone it actualy rings on the other phone but the XDA II does not register the call at all (as though no call is even being placed!!!, no missed call, no error messages NOTHING!!!)
I loved WisBar untill I've narrowed the problem down of not reciving calls to uninstalling or exiting WisBar and doing a softreset and never had the problems again...
Most other task managers I've found seem to have problems with the Phone Edition, cannot hide the Phone ID Program, cant close the Phone after it has been opend, phone keeps ringing over and over a gain even though there is not incomming calls... all are a few problems I have found with other Task managers I've tried... I will give that PocketNav a go and see how it works with phone edition...
I have tested most task managers under Phone Edition and my conclusion is that SBP's Pocket Plus is THEone...
It actually let's you see the notification area just as it's meant to be and it let's you exclude applications so they don't close but minimize (perfect for IA_Caller_Id.exe)
Best regards,
Rayan
Do you know of any freeware ones that are worth while?
I upgraded to the WWE BigStorage ROM v1.13, but the Blutooth-Icon is missing somehow...
It disappeared after I installed some software (actually on my device: Resco Explorer, TCPMP, SPB GPRS Monitor, SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus, CELab CAB Installer, Ericz Call Filtering)
does somebody know how to bring it back?
greetz Stefan
Re: BT-Icon disappeared
Nemesis311088 said:
I upgraded to the WWE BigStorage ROM v1.13, but the Blutooth-Icon is missing somehow...
It disappeared after I installed some software (actually on my device: Resco Explorer, TCPMP, SPB GPRS Monitor, SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus, CELab CAB Installer, Ericz Call Filtering)
does somebody know how to bring it back?
greetz Stefan
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What causes your problem is that you have a lot of stuff automatically loading at startup. From your list, all of the three SPB applications and I would expect also the Call Filtering app.
The bluetooth tray-icon is also loaded at startup, but after the today screen apps. For some reason BTTray needs to be loaded within a certain time after reset, or it will not load at all.
The quick way to solve it is to "trim" your today apps to load a bit quicker. Like only showing the next 7 days in Diary.
This has been discussed here before, and If you search this forum for old postings you should find more info (and solutions).
those 15 seconds you can change in tweaks2k.net?
I'll try, thx
==>even starting with no single todayplugin and after removing the callfilter the icon is not back...
will have to live without it
greetz Stefan
icon reappeared, but greyed out...it says that there is no bluetooth-hardware installed on this device :shock:
wicked sick...
edit: weird: after starting in safemode and now coming back to normal starting mode he wanted to install a USB device...
1.time: didn't do anything, ckicled cancel, BT-Icon was greyed out again woth no installed device...
2.time: typed "BT" in, device showed a failure and didn't install it, BT-Icon still greyed out, but I could enter the blzuetooth menu without any problems.
-->activating blutooth made the icon appear normal, but showed that bt is inactive, the blue LED blinked, so I knew it WAS active.
Deactivating and activating now made the Icon get to work again
==> problem solved
greetz @all, Stefan
Hi all,
Been following this forum for a while now since the last few windows devices I've had...excellent advice and information!
The query is that now that I have a Tytn/Hermes etc, I wanted to get onto installing my "usual" applications that I've alwayshad.
SBP Weather
Resco: Explorer, Audio recorder, photoviewer, registry, today plug in (but only to show batterystatus as compact).
The delivery report patch by someone in here posted in the wizard forum
Ammar wireless addin to show status on desktop
I myself dont think this is a lot to install?
the phone is an orange M3100 unlocked with the Imate 1.20/1.07 firmware installed.
The issue is that after one of the above is installed, I get a lot of instability on the device
ITs to the point that I had to format the device on 3 occasions now and yesterday finally re-applied the firmware.
At the moment, its just got my contacts and calendar/tasks syncd with no addional software and its fine.
Has anyone got any of the above running without issues?
instability would be usually slowing down or crashing of the device.
I've also noticed that on Wed, I tried to take a pic of a box with stickers for work.
When two guys were holding the box, the cam took a pic without problems.
As soon as they put the box on the floor and I took the pic from birdseye, the cam would take a Black picture (cannot see anything).
after a while, the cam would crash and I have to soft reset to activate again
Take another pic from birdseye and same thing
I know there is a camera patch in the tmobile firmware, is it worth installing this or does the imate firmware have his already?
Thats it for me
Thanks
I'm using the M3100 with the Orange ROM and firmware:
Operator: 14.123.1.614
ROM Ver: 1.23.61.4
ROM Date: 07/13/03
Radio Ver: 1.06.00.00
Protocol Ver: 32.37.7010.01H
I don't have many stability issues at all. Mine is also unloacked so I guess it's not that.
EDIT:
Sorry I know this isn't much help to your question...
Gav.
akash84 said:
Hi all,
Resco: Explorer, registry, today plug in (but only to show batterystatus as compact).
Ammar wireless addin to show status on desktop
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I have the above programs installed and no instability, however, when using today plugins It tends to be slow and/or stop responding after a few hours of inactivity (mostly nights)
I use: resco explorer/reg explorer not the today plugin right now, and the wireless "on the today page" patch, and a calendar+ plugin.
and this combination works perfectly (no hanging or anything)
try not using today plugins (more than the "usual" ones) and see if it helps
Hi, I don't have an Orange, but I think it would be pretty safe to say none of the resco apps should be givin you any problems, I have the latest of all the resco apps installed, except the audio recorder, and I highly doubt any of your issues is coming from that, I had stayed away from SBP software, I seem to remember early issues with something related to the today stuff..possibly the weather, but I really can't say for sure.
At the moment I have 28 apps listed in the add/remove(not counting the resco today/addins), with no stability or lockup issues, but I only have one today plugin on, its the small todaytime written by someone here on the forum, forget who at the moment.
I'm not sure if your stability issues might be from the rom or not, I did notice on my camera the first 3rd and 6th picture didn't work, the files were real large and they wouldn't show in the viewer, but I just deleted them, and let the number grow, and it hasn't happened since.
Two apps I recommend for trouble shooting are SBP backup and SK tracker, I recently started usin these two, and haven't had any issues yet, where I had to use them..I make backups and snapshots often, but wished I had had them in the past before I tested software.
Hope some of my babbling might be of help.
The babbling does help
Thanks to all 3 of you
I'll give Resco another go but leave SBP out for now
I suppose one thing I missed out was that all those apps would be installed on the memory card rather than the phone memory... I wonder, especially with today screen apps, wouldthat be the cause.
I'll post if I have issues after Resco goes back in!
Cheers
akash84 said:
The babbling does help
Thanks to all 3 of you
I'll give Resco another go but leave SBP out for now
I suppose one thing I missed out was that all those apps would be installed on the memory card rather than the phone memory... I wonder, especially with today screen apps, wouldthat be the cause.
I'll post if I have issues after Resco goes back in!
Cheers
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Most today plugins must be installed in main memory.
I second that,
install the today plugins in main memory, and also if you are using flexmail install it on main memeory, otherwise you'll lose all settings in flexmail every time you restart
Hi, I'm using SPB Plus, Resco Explorer, SMSDR (Delivery Report patch), SPB Backup, SPB Insight, SPB Time, SPB diary & Phone Alarm .. All Ok. Running fine .. No noticable slow down on device (other than boot up time a bit longer)... So far so good ..
Ok re-flashed imate firmware
got resco audio, expl, reg, photo installed
got the resco batt mater on the desktop but no SBP
stable so far
I installed a couple of programs over the last couple of days, Spb Weather and Launch Manager and when changing the setting or configuration the programs shut down and nothing changes??
Everything else is working on my wizard, has anybody else experienced this?
Both programs were installed on the storage card.
Spb weather has worked on my wizard before with no problems.
Ixtana_ran said:
I installed a couple of programs over the last couple of days, Spb Weather and Launch Manager and when changing the setting or configuration the programs shut down and nothing changes??
Everything else is working on my wizard, has anybody else experienced this?
Both programs were installed on the storage card.
Spb weather has worked on my wizard before with no problems.
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Hi Ixtana_ran, I developed Fantastic Bytes Launch Manager...
Could you describe the problem in more detail?
How much free memory and storage space do you have?
Are you running Windows Mobile 5 or 6?
Very strange... and I have tested Launch Manager on a Wizard before.
Hi Carolos, no need to worry the problem is with me mostly.
When adding new pages & shortcuts I was pressing the OK button top right of screen and nothing was saving? I have since found out that if I hold the right softkey it saves OK.
This is probably a side effect of task manager or what ever program I use to shut down programs instead of minimizing (not sure of its name,Doh).
Enjoying using your app, hoping it will allow me to get rid of SPB mobile Shell, Phone Suite to try and free some resources.
Ixtana_ran said:
Enjoying using your app, hoping it will allow me to get rid of SPB mobile Shell, Phone Suite to try and free some resources.
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No problem
Great to hear you are enjoying Launch Manager.
Is it me or does the T-mobile Dash 3g randomly closes out of apps. I was in my Internet explorer and it juss closed out. It also does this when i recieve messages. Is it my setting or something because i cant uderstand whats doing this.
Mine too
I have the T Mobile Dash 3g unlocked with win 6.5, same thing started happening today...all apps closing after abiyt 10 seconds. Looking for the problem.
closing
this seems to be a win 6.5 issue, and possibly a problem with SPB software.
I foind this thread but there are others too:
I also found a reference to SK Tools which i also have installed. If I cant find a solution soon, I am going to reset the phone and start a clean slate
reset the phone
well i reinstalled win 6.5 and it was not so bad since i was near the beginning anyway and had all programs saved in one spot. I did not install SKTools this time, i did install SPB online, and so far so good, the apps are staying open.
BTW A GREAT free program is SMARTToolKit which will expand your soft keys and give you lots of quick options....works well.
Yup,it's not all apps, just seems to be IE only. And yes it wont stay open like all the other programs when phone goes to standby. Very annoying. FYI, I'm using 6.1
Dash 3G Apps minimizing
There are few threads on this issue. I have narrowed this down to some change in the registry. I will know which part of the reigstry shorty. After running one of many apps (SPB online, SPB radio, Wunder Radio, Pocket Tunes, SK Tools, even the native Bluetooth app) application windows will not stay open and apps minimze on their own after about 10 seconds. If i restore the registry the phone works fine again. Since this problem spans so many different apps and developers, it is a MS problem. MS may say it is the developers problem, either way someone needs to fix it./