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Right, had my XDA11 for a year and a half now and getting bored. Just got a few questions about the Exec to help me decide. I'm in the UK, and on O2:
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
Thanks in advance for any help
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
- i don't use it. but it could be good if you don't use the keyboard alot
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
- most wm software works on landscape, however not much is specially designed. Some games are. apps like ie and word use it automatically.
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
- most will. utilities not specifically made for wm5 probably won't work.
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
- it works by default in 320x240. Only programs that 'know' about vga use it. There is software (e.g. ozvga) which forces non-vga programs to work in vga. some work well, others have a font too small, others don't work.
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
- yes. As long as your desktop pc is set as a gateway presumably to a asdl or cable modem. most people use a wireless router with built in modem, as this is more convenient and won't require your pc to be switched on (netgear 634, linksys dt614, etc)
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
- yes, but its still mostly behind the opposition. You are better off with something like netfront. Some people here use opera, but I find it crashes all the time.
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
- I use tcpmp (betaplayer) and pockettv (for mpeg 1).
wm10 support mpeg4 but not mpeg2:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/faq.aspx
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
- don't know
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
- yes. generic name is universal. also called orange m5000, qtek 3000, o2 xda exec, tmobile mda pro
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
- I found online cheapest for o2, £150 + £19 a month for 50 mins (12 month contract) + £30 a month for 200mb or £17 a month for 35mb. Tmobile does webnwalk (inc 40mb) for £22 a month, but tmobile mda pro is locked, xda exec is not. also you can get exec from o2 shop for £150 + £30 a month data only (if you don't want the phone).
Thanks in advance for any help
everything you need to know is on this forum. just read read read. Also look at pocketgear, clickgamer, freewareppc or handango (select o2 exec) for compatible applications
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST?
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On the T-mobile site they are doing the MDA pro on flext 30 (about £19 pm after discount) for £129
Add to that the unlimited data add on for £7.50 pm - and you're cooking !
Grrr, has to be on O2 I'm afraid Cheers anyway
Hmm, wondered where my other reply had gone. I posted it in the wrong thread, d'oh:
Cheers for that.
So if I use an older WM2003 app, will it stretch to fit the new screen size?.
Can the "open" mode (landscape, with keyboard) be used for anything or just for typing? I'd probably want it for texting, internet, and Word. Presumably I can still watch videos in widescreen without having to open it up?
Lastly, is the touch screen still active when open, or is all control given to the keyboard?
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Hmm, wondered where my other reply had gone. I posted it in the wrong thread, d'oh:
Cheers for that.
So if I use an older WM2003 app, will it stretch to fit the new screen size?.
Can the "open" mode (landscape, with keyboard) be used for anything or just for typing? I'd probably want it for texting, internet, and Word. Presumably I can still watch videos in widescreen without having to open it up?
Lastly, is the touch screen still active when open, or is all control given to the keyboard?
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Apps by default see 320x240. So any app that uses 320x240 will work fine. In addition, if the app is written to use windows fonts, although it will only 'see' 320x240 its fonts will be smoothed automatically by wm5 for the 640x480 screen (if cleartype is selected). Whether an app works or not more depends whether it relys on a wm2003 characterstic which is no longer there. Most apps work, most utilities don't.
You are misunderstanding the difference between landscape and portrait. They are just presenting a different resolution to the app. 240x320 (or 480x680). Any well behaved app. will adapt fine, just as in Windows XP if you resize the window the app still works ok. Badly written apps or ones that were written for very old versions of the pocket pc might work, but you may find odd effects, e.g. the right 1/3 of the screen is unused in portrait mode.
You always have the choice of the 'pop-up' on screen keyboard or the physical one. Although its a bit silly to use the pop-up one when the main keyboard is available.
Go into an o2 shop (or any other mobile shop) which stocks the universal and have a play, they normally have demo versions available.
rgds
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Grrr, has to be on O2 I'm afraid Cheers anyway
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in that case ...
http://shop.uplands.co.uk/acatalog/XDA_EXEC.html
You ARE a business customer arent you ? :wink:
second from the bottom - £137 on a £13.99 24 month contract
Although it is a crap contract
I also recall there are some good offers on the o2 "student" site
( you ARE a student , aren't you :wink: ) :lol:
Ok, I was in the same boat as you, had the XDAII, hacked to WM2003SE, got sick of the bugs, and upgraded immediately for wm5 and the new tools. Never looked back. But to answer your specific questions:
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
Wonderful, love it, not for the flip and twist, but for the keyboard. I also like the clam approach to protect the screen. It also adds enormous geek factor. I really got sick of the tapping on the screen to type, and there is no way I could get into the sms or email thing tapping the screen. the keyboard makes typing and communication via a keyboard so much easier.
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
There is a lot of software becoming now far more popular for WM5, but perhaps only say 50% of the software on the market, but those are usually the mickey mouse software apps, the serious contenders have updated most of the apps for this.
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
Some, maybe, but not all. Most of the apps usually have an upgrade policy. GPS systems struggle and need to be hacked. I was unable to get Navman to work. SPB has new releases for most apps, resco has been updated. So you may have to pay for an upgrade.
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
You can if you want them in full screen, change them to 640x480, but the existing camera still only uses 320x240 so they only use about 1/4 of the screen. This is the most common complaint, and my biggest gripe. An app called TPCMP will stretch the videos for you to full screen. Its free.
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
Yes. You can also use it to share folders, copy your videos and pictures to your computer, stream music and videos from your PC to PPC. This is the biggest bonus and favourite bit for me, along with 3G fast internet.
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
It hasnt changed. You get a little bit more text to a screen, but no extra functions. There are 3rd parties, but I dont recommend or use any other. I find it is sufficient and acceptable, but not state of the art.
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
Not sure, but if you want full screen, you will probably use TCPMP anyway. Everybody else does.
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
Yes. I use them.
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
Yes, O2 Exec, Imate Jasjar are the same hardware, and 95% same software. O2 has three different releases, useless, next to useless, and barebones basic, which is similar to the Imate. Both have crap support.
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
I paid $1,500 AUD to pay cash up front so that I could change and use whatever network and service provider I want, when I want. Its about 600 pounds (sorr my keyboard doesnt have a pounds symbol I am on the bottom end of the world).
I think you need to understand some of the other issues:
1. Speed, slower
2. Pemanent storage, limited but handy
3. Bluetooth better, but not good enough yet
4. Updated ROM has push email, but not the released rom
5. Landscape awesome
6. Camera, ok, not brilliant, but significantly better than XDAII
7. SD Card rather than Mini (on other devices)
8. No backpack, no VGA output
9. Two cameras, second for video telephone
10. Hot Keys for quick access to primary functions
11. Impoved Office tools word and excel
12. Better sound
13. Lacks external display, so you dont know who is calling unless you keep it in PDA mode
14. Extra size and weight makes it bulky
15. The case it comes with is crap.
Eitherway, no matter what, I do recommend the Universal device, though I was happy with the XDAII overall, I really really really wanted a proper Qwerty keyboard, and built in WIFI.
Hope it helps
Cheers
Simon
THAT was the reply I was looking for I needed it laying out for me in idiots terms, lol. I'm getting so pumped about this now. Thank you
Lastly, does anyone know if I can upgrade to this on my current contract NOW rather than waiting for renewal time again? I'm half way into my 2nd 12 month period but I took £70 credited to my account in place of a new handset at the 12 month mark. I'd be willing to pay the £149.99 up front but I understand this is a subsidised price, and common sense would dictate to me that I can't do it
Just phone O2 and ask them when you are eligable for the upgrade from the mobile its 202, landline 08702 410202, The Exec is a great device, very impressed with it - worth the outlay without a doubt - Mike
Just a hint for the Internet. Use the NetFront, it is an awesome browser. It supports true VGA resolution (640x480) without any registry hacks/SW resets and it shows almost all the webSites as on the normal computer ! (if they are wider then 640px, then you have the horizontal scroller, so the site layout doesn`t get broken)
Bundled Internet Explorer is absolute crap. When you`ll try NetFront (or Opera), you won`t come back
Gaz you will probably want a data alowance, considering O2 claim to be about to charge us for GPRS access. You could consider getting a new data only contract at the level you require and then swap the SIMs for phone use and heavy data use.
So you end up with 2 contracts, but it's only the same as adding a data bolt on to your current contract in terms of monthly recurring cost. The SIM swapping is a pain, but potentially worth it as O2 will not entertain an early upgrade.
Gajet said:
Gaz you will probably want a data alowance, considering O2 claim to be about to charge us for GPRS access. You could consider getting a new data only contract at the level you require and then swap the SIMs for phone use and heavy data use.
So you end up with 2 contracts, but it's only the same as adding a data bolt on to your current contract in terms of monthly recurring cost. The SIM swapping is a pain, but potentially worth it as O2 will not entertain an early upgrade.
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you can add a data bolt on to a monthly contract with no implications for contract period. you can also ask o2 to raise the data speed to 384k. this is far preferable to having 2 sim cards.
rgds
Well, phoned them the other day and they said I need to wait til July. Not too bad I suppose, but I'm not known for my patience, lol.
I might look into getting a data bolt on as well. Cheers lads
You'd think it would be built in, but does anyone know if it will be possible to use the Wizard as a Windows Sideshow device in Vista? I got a horizontal dock for this thing just so I'd be able to run a gadget or two on it, but I'm surprised they didn't have it working out of the box ... with the popularity of the Wizard at Microsoft.
A quick search on google shows that there is quite a lot of interest for this.
IMO, it is almost certain this functionality will be added to Windows Mobile devices; lets just hope they don't limit it to WM6 devices.
Jörg
Very Good idea, I got some old phones with 2.5" LCD working, it is now time to wake them!
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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I guess they meant side show not slide show
whats the difference lol
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whats the difference lol
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Sideshow is a technology included with Windows Vista that allows for an external LCD to display widgets, even with the PC powered off. This allows you to see at a glance the weather, if you have e-mail, etc. It's primary use is in tiny LCDs on notebook covers, though if you could use your mobile for this, that would be really neat too.
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
alandashby said:
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
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Can you upload that beta?
V J said:
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6
looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
computer9cowboy said:
This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6 looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
V J said:
Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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I wasn't crapping on it, I think it looks cool. I wish it worked for me. I would rather have WM6 than a 320x240 extension to my desktop though. I already have a dual monitor setup.
Sidewindow can be alternative of sideshow but you have to run samurize plugins on that display to look like sideshow. Microsoft states that mobile devices can be used as sideshow with vista, i have tryed many ways and i have no success with this task
I saw one of the Microsoft Powerpoint presentations on their website presenting the sideshow feature and one of the devices among the usual picture frames and things was actually a Smartphone, it looks like in house at microsoft they have done it but jsut not yet for us. EDIT: See http://download.microsoft.com/downl...56b-d47a59388df0/pdc_2005_auxilarydisplay.ppt
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
V J said:
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
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Works on WiFi with Server 2003 and WM6 as the client. Very cool, not very usefull but very cool.
Could someone post the Pocket PC and Windows Vista files for ZoneScreen? Unfortunately, the author has removed all the files from his site in favor of the open source release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/zonescreen/) which only has the files for Windows XP.
Best uses for Sideshow
The best usage of this will be with remote controls for Media Center PC's. You'll be able to sit outside on the porch and browse your music files or other media without needing to see the TV screen. This way you can have speakers outside and you can play whatever music you want. Added functionality will be when they finally make the app for windows mobile devices so that you won't even need a third party remote. With 3G devices such as the Hermes (8525) you won't even need to connect via wifi or bluetooth. You'll see all your album art, receive feedback of "now playing" items, etc. It will turn your pda into an expensive 2-way touchpanel such as Crestron, AMX, or ELAN offer. I say screw the laptops. Check out this link and then imagine that on your PDA.
<http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/21/ricavisions-vista-mce-sideshow-remote-does-bluetooth-at-100-met/>
All those complaining about why it doesn't work on vista:
You need ActiveSync for this application which has been replaced with Mobile Device User Center, so it doesn't work. I hope there's an update on the way to make it work, because in partnership with konfabulator widgets, it's incredible. It had it built in a case, and it displayed all the systems specs via widgets.
Dear all,
I have been wondering if there is an application with messenger, which would have hermes frontcam as a webcam. After a long search I did not manage to find any apps like this. (with this i mean an app, which is running on the WM, NOT on PC).
However I came across one opinion about the thing that it could NOT be possible, since the heavy need of processing of the cam. I started thinking is that right, how much processing speed does it need to run a webcam with like only few pictures per second and a basic chat app running on msn messenger standard.
In my unprofessional opinion that should be possible, and if it is, why isnt anyone else interested in this kind of a thing, and why its not available.
Please somebody, do that kind of an application so I wouldnt have to learn WM PPC programming just because to do that.
or alternatively, prove me wrong.
/Henry
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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Thanks for the cool info!
Unfortunately that is working as a webcam for a messenger running on a PC only.. Not for messenger application running on my Hermes itself.
Is this impossible, is this going to be my Alamo?
/Henry
Ow, that i do not know. I'm not aware of an app that can do that, allthough i think it should be possible.
Maybe someone else can help you.
Im going to have to say that i doubt such a program exists or will exist.
MSN uses a lot of processing power to convert raw video into a streamed format.
Just because it is possible to do 3G video calls doesnt mean that MSN will use the same compression method.
What they'd first need to develop is voice calls through MSN. Not just voice clips.
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
on my wizard it does have a drop down for the different cameras it detects, however the wizard only has one camera, so i believe it may bring up both cameras on the hermes
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
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Cool stuff! Will try it out as soon as I get a internet connection.. Just now Im located in Netherlands (against my will ) without internet subscription and with horrible dutch 3g data transfer pricing.
Reporting back from Finland! The land of the thousands lakes and stuff..
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sry for that.. just noticed that the file is actually under 1 meg.. so even I can afford that with stupid dutch pricing..
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
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I will try that out later tonight. Which version of WM are you running? 5 or 6? and which version of the phone you have? ..or maybe you ment that its not installing on your computer..
I mean that is not installing on my computer, if I transfer the file to my hermes, it doesn't work either.
Does it work for you ?
I'm on WM6 (Schaps version 3.54c)
Many many moons ago I initiated a thread telling all of the impending sale of my Ameo, and my reasons for doing so. Since then I have owned umpteen handsets including a Toshiba Portege G900, Nokia E90, Tytn ii, HTC Touch Diamond and finally (to my own surprise) an Iphone 3G.
I recall an overbearing distaste for the Iphone and its supposed lack of a software scene, however it seems that times have changed: the iPhone, for all its flaws now has a huge modding scene and an almost limitless array of applications to cover all of Apple's oversights. For what it's worth the iPhone is the most enjoyable handset I have ever used.
Now here's the thing.
I've been offered a very good price for my Iphone and have recently acquired an INCREDIBLY cheap HTC ADVANTAGE. From the quick look at these forums I've had there seem to have been some great developments and I WANT to fall back in love with the Advantage (though I accept that the device is in itself a completely different handset!)
I suppose on a deeper level I want to know if windows mobile can offer me the solutions that I have on my Iphone and enjoy every day. Obviously each device has HARDWARE differences that can never be changed - the Advantage will never have multitouch just as the iPhone will never have a VGA display; but considering the HUGE software library Windows Mobile supposedly offers can it provide solutions to the following tasks....
Google Contacts OTA sync - with Gsync I can synchronize my contacts every day and ensure I never lose a number. This also updates my contact photos stored on Google's servers. I don't use Outlook, never have never will and want a simple over the air solution.
Podcasts. With Mobilecast on the iPhone I can search for an download podcasts which download in the background and update as and when new shows arrive. It supports both video and audio podcasts.
YouTube downloader - allows the download of high quality YouTube videos to keep and supports multiple simultaneous downloads.
Email with properly formatted HTML support. I recall the Windows Mobile html email client displaying weirdly formatted and ugly messages, shifted to one side/ I will happily pay for a replacement email client if it is as beautiful and useable as the Iphone's.
Browser - the iPhone's browser is far from perfect, but I'm able to happily type out a new thread on Safari right now. I recall many problems with the Touch Diamond's Opera browser - most irritatingly the cursor moving back in the paragraph you're typing for no reason. Have most of the flaws with Opera Mobile been resolved? Is it now better than the iphone's Safari browser?
That's pretty much my list. They might seem pretty banal but they make me enjoy my iPhone, and if I can get the Advantage to do all those things then I'll probably sell up. I'm not worried about the size of the Advantage.
Hi Leoni,
Good to hear from you again after such a long period of absence.
I still give the same advice: define your requirements first, and be comprehensive in doing so.
- Do you need navigation software? If yes, iPhone is out, Athena is in.
- Do you want hugh screen and not mind the size? If yes, Athena has a tick.
- Do you do word, excel, and power point, or at least often receive attachment of such and want to read them on the device? If yes, iPhone is out, Athena is in.
- Could you tolerate weak signal strength? If no, iPhone is out.
- Do you have the habit of using handwriting recognition, or write Chinese/Japanese/Korean characters? If yes, iPhone is out.
- Do you want to use the GPS for traking, or prolonged use without access to power source? If yes, iPhone is out, as you can't swap in spare battery.
- Do you a extremely fussy person in wanting really really smooth video playback? If yes, consider iPhone. However, if you'r willing to wait, Coreplayer is going to address this issue very very shortly and poor video playout is likely to be history.
- Do you placed lots of value in internet browsing wihtout having to zoom in and out? If yes, nothing beats Athena. But Opera Mobile would never be as smooth as Safari. As to your questions on typing using Opera, it depends on which version you use. You need to try out all of them to see the difference.
- Are you a fashion conscious person who want to be "cool". If so, iPhone is a cool looking phone, but so is HTC Touch HD (Which I have just bought).
- Do you do presentation as required by your work? If yes, HTC Touch HD is out, and Athena is in, because HD does not have TV-out. Although iPhone has TV out, it does not have presentation software, so iPhone is also out.
- Do you want FM radio? If so, consider Touch HD.
- Do you want good camera (say 10MP camera) and video recording? If so, consider Samsung SBH B600.
You get the idea... You need to know what your requirements are, then gather information to see if your target phones meet your need.
Yes, a lot has changed for the better in Athena since you last left it, but there are still many areas which are unchanged. You could post all your specific question after you've considered your requirements, and we'll be very happy to answer your questions. You have already posted some of those question, but it's a good idea to think more comprehensively to make sure you cover all aspects of your needs.
I may not be able to answer some of the questions as your needs are different from mine, but I'm sure others would respond to your questions.
Cheers.
Hi Eaglesteve - I had a feeling you'd be in here - good to hear from you.
My circumstances are that I already have an iPhone and have an Advantage coming in the post today. I'm not after turning the Advantage into an iPhone, simply wondering if there are one or two bits of software which would sell the idea of keeping the Advantage to me.
I'm surprised you'd go for the Touch HD Eaglesteve as its screen is quite a bit smaller than that of the Advantage. The device does interest me, although its price is more than the combined costs of my iPhone and Advantage! I wonder if I'd just be better off keeping two devices once again. What are your feelings on the HD versus the Advantage? How does the overall responsiveness and also audio and video performance compare with the Advantage?
Regards
Check this out: http://www.goosync.com/
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Check this out: http://www.goosync.com/
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Hi thanks for that. Unfortunately you have to pay, and 20 quid seems a rip-off considering I'd only be syncing my contacts. The solution I have for Iphone cost me £1 or something like that.
I'm seriously thinking of just throwing my Advantage straight onto Ebay. Windows Mobile doesn't seem to have the scope of free software it once had. I don't think the idea of free (or very cheap) Google contacts sync software is that ridiculous an idea - certainly it's enough of an issue for more than one iPhone developer to come up with free or cheap solutions. I bought the Advantage because it was cheap and i thought it would be something fun to play around with but I seem to have made a poor decision.
If every little solution costs me £20 then I'm going to be severely out of pocket by the end of the week!
It don't sync with google but....
Sync = www.dashwire.com is the best over the air sync up I've used. Photos, videos, contacts, photocontacts, emails and txt for free! Also snap2face (free) facebook app can sync up with your facebook contacts images too.
Rss video and audio = Beyondpod 3.0 (free) brilliant software. Use this in conjunction with Mort's Player and the Mypod skin (free). You won't look back with a 16GB SDMicro (w/adapter) in your advantage.
Browser = Netfront or even better Skyfire if you can get it. Netfront has so many different configs that you should be happy with one or two.
Email = I get by with outlook as any major media mails I get tend to need my home pc!
I don't download youtube vids but do use vTap as the wikipedia side of it is cool.
I tried to replace my Athena with an iphone and failed by a long way. I'll be using this Ameo for a couple of years I think. (Unless the 4g HTC Max kicks ass)
The one thing I would recommend is putting MichyPrima's 5.1 rom it as it is so damn rock solid and just works so good. All the sensors work with the new 'G' software knocking about and I have only hard reset once to clear out a couple of programs.
Long live the X7500. Best comms device I have owned, by a mile.
leoni1980 said:
Hi Eaglesteve - I had a feeling you'd be in here - good to hear from you.
My circumstances are that I already have an iPhone and have an Advantage coming in the post today. I'm not after turning the Advantage into an iPhone, simply wondering if there are one or two bits of software which would sell the idea of keeping the Advantage to me.
I'm surprised you'd go for the Touch HD Eaglesteve as its screen is quite a bit smaller than that of the Advantage. The device does interest me, although its price is more than the combined costs of my iPhone and Advantage! I wonder if I'd just be better off keeping two devices once again. What are your feelings on the HD versus the Advantage? How does the overall responsiveness and also audio and video performance compare with the Advantage?
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As for software for Athena, you should always have FtouchSL, Wktask and the like. But I'd strongly recommend SPB Mobile Shell as one of the most transforming software IMO. Not only it is finger friendly, it will also enhance the camera function, puts all the Opera mobile history and favoutries on the launch menu, but also give you lots of useful tools. Don't forget the latest Resco File Explorer and Registry editor. Of course Opera Mobile is a must, but you need to experiement with the various version to find out which is suits you. I find surfing with Opera mobile on Athena to be way way better than using Safari on iPhone, primarily due to the large screen and not having to zoom in and out. Try out FL3 and directly play youtube using Opera 9.5, something which was impossible the last time you had your Athena. When using Opera Mobile, go to the configuration to make minimum overview zoom 85 percent to allow you ability to activate links in zoom out mode if you so wish.
Don't forget youtubeplayer 1.0.0.10 which allows you to either play directly or download youtube videos.
I can't remember if I had already posted this info in my previous entry, so please excuse me if there's any duplication.
Regarding my using the Touch HD, it's the closest replacement available in the market today. I'm not sure if I could get used to the near 4 inch (3.8 precisely) screen or not, but would give it a try. I think 4.5 inch would be real nice, but let's see..
It has many things that I thought an Athena replacement should have: smoother rounder form factor, embedded ear piece, more dated 7.2mb/s download speed, FM radio, better camera (hopefully), and no keybaord (always much prefer without hardware keyboard).
I'm still waiting for my unit to arrive when I make this post. It is too soon for me to comment on performance, etc. I'd want to make sure that if I make a review it is going to be honest, truthful, and helpful.
I never let cost to influence my decision too much. I just want to the best available, if you know what I mean. Actually while considering HD, Mackaby influenced me to give iPhone a serious consideration, which I did. iPhone would have cost me nothing with a plan, but as you already know, it was a frustration and disappointment for me, so I chosed the HD, which cost me AUD1225, which is much cheaper than my Athena, that cost me about AUD1600.
I'd still keep my Athena, in case I could'nt get use to the small size in HD. Won't know until I try it. Unfortunately nobody in Sydney is selling HD, so the only way to try is to buy.
Enough rumbling. Will let you get back to your Athena. Welcome back, my friend.
Lioni,
Forgot to mention podcast. I've never used this myself, but there should be two ways of doing this in winmo devices. You could do it in Opera mobile
In the address bar, enter the URL address of the web page that contains the RTSP link to the desired *.3gp, *.mp4, or *.sdp file, then click on the RTSP links.
Another way is to to use the Streamin Media program. The media is sent in a continuous stream to winmo devices and is played as it arrives, along with the audio. You could play 3GP, MPEG-4, and SDP files. To use this program, go to start/program and start the streaming media program (I think most of MiChy's ROM has it, if I'm not mistaken), then click connect. On the next screen, enter the URL for the website, then tap connect. You can play/pause, rewind, fast forward, etc.
Hope this helps and hope it satisfies your need.
Cheers.
Regarding Opera mobile versus Safari, my opinion is that Safari is still better in terms of being fluid and smooth. Opera tends to be jerky and unsteady in comparision. However, speedwise, there is probably no difference. Safari tends to require some waiting for the blurred webpage to turn clear before you could take control of it (during this time, it is temporarily frozen). Opera also has this pause. I would rate Safari the better browser overall. However, Opera on Athena clearly triumph over Safari on iPhone in my honest opinion, because of the big screen.
I'm currently using my athena again, as my x1 developed a serious flaw yesterday. It jumped under the wheels of a lorry!
Awaiting replacement device from Vodafone as their insurance department is a bad joke.
Anyway, I'd got used to the comparitively tiny screen of the X1, but having gone back to the athena there's a couple of observations.
Both Screens are fantastic, the X1 is noticeably sharper (small screen hires), but using the athena again I can't see how I can cope with the X1 when I eventually get the replacement. It's like using realvga on a screen half the size of the athena, yet I have been coping with it, it's amazing how much you adapt really quickly.
There's a massive speed difference, the x1 does things nearly instantly, all that memory does it I suppose, it's like running an XP machine on 256mb then sticking 1gb of memory inside instead.
Gps is near instantaneous, screen rendering is the same,opening applications don't bring up the spinning wheel of doom, the athena crawls along in comparison yet it didn't feel that slow when I was using it before. It's all relative I suppose (it's not really that slow, maybe 1/4 of a second or so).
But having said that I love the athena, I mentioned before that I don't find it too big to use as a phone, and the screen is amazing. It's a pity we can't squeeze a newer motherboard in there ;-)
When I get my replacement X1 through I'm not certain what to do, I'm very tempted to sell it and get a touch HD, the form factor certainly works better. But then I could keep using it and have the Athena as a wifi tablet for websurfing.
As for browsing speed (noticeably this forum), I find Netfront on simple browsing to be the fastest there is especially across gprs, not very pretty but who cares about the backgrounds when the info is so important!
to throw a spanner in the works, I had a decent play with the blackberry storm while waiting for Vf customer service and their insurance & repairs dept to sort out my x1. The hardware is the best I've seen, not sure how long the funky screen would last, but the form factor is great and build quality looks good, but the OS doesn't look amazing, and I'm not sure how much you can get access to change stuff, plus there's no wifi !
how stupid is that?
Sorry to hear about your SEXXI mishap.
Are you using MiChy's ROM? His ROM should be noticeably faster.
The screen size is the thing that I would miss most about Athena. No doubt about that. A larger screen with the same resolution would off course appear to be less sharp. I hope just like you I could adapt to the tiny 3.8 inch screen in HD.
You should be able to get almost instant GPS signal with Athena. There is a thread that I started on this on how to get that result.
Talking about speed, Asus has just released a 800 mhz winmo phone. This is the fastest on a winmo phone. But sadly it has only 2.8 inch VGA screen, which I would never be able to live with.
yep im running michys latest, and with gps ive never been able to get less than a 35second fix, usually its much more like 5 mins, despite all the tweaks
Beyondpod 3 looks to be EXACTLY what I'm looking for - well done Arctic Matt!
Now here's a stupid question....
I've relied on my iPhone and 'sync in a blink' (a Google OTA contacts sync application) to back up my phone contacts. Now I know that I can back up all my contacts to my Windows Address Book with Itunes, but does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)? I feel stupid even asking this but in the past I've always relied on having my contacts on the SIM card but a few weeks ago I got a new sim and threw the old one away. I don't use Outlook or anything like that, wondered if perhaps I could just do it with Activesync.
Thanks in advance.
leoni1980 said:
does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)?
Thanks in advance.
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I have an account in Live.com, when I setup Windows Live in my X7510, there is an option to use another email account. I am not sure though if it can use Google (GMail), but to make the story short, upon setup, it will ask you if you want to syncronize your email and contacts to your device.
If Windows Live won't work with GMail, how about creating an account in Live.com. They might have an option to copy your contacts from GMail to Live.com then use Windows Live from your device to syncronize.
Just some thoughts...
fards said:
yep im running michys latest, and with gps ive never been able to get less than a 35second fix, usually its much more like 5 mins, despite all the tweaks
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Which GPS Navigation do you use???
cktlcmd said:
Which GPS Navigation do you use???
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eaglesteve said:
- Do you a extremely fussy person in wanting really really smooth video playback? If yes, consider iPhone. However, if you'r willing to wait, Coreplayer is going to address this issue very very shortly and poor video playout is likely to be history.
Cheers.
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what's the core news?
Don't forget to....
leoni1980 said:
Beyondpod 3 looks to be EXACTLY what I'm looking for - well done Arctic Matt!
Now here's a stupid question....
I've relied on my iPhone and 'sync in a blink' (a Google OTA contacts sync application) to back up my phone contacts. Now I know that I can back up all my contacts to my Windows Address Book with Itunes, but does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)? I feel stupid even asking this but in the past I've always relied on having my contacts on the SIM card but a few weeks ago I got a new sim and threw the old one away. I don't use Outlook or anything like that, wondered if perhaps I could just do it with Activesync.
Thanks in advance.
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Go into the advanced settings of Beyondpod 3 and access Beyond Scheduler! You can automate so much stuff on your Athena without having to program in Mort Script. Via this software my x7500 goes into flight mode at 11pm, wakes up at 6am, connects to my home wifi, downloads all my podcasts, downloads all my emails, syncs with dashwire, switches on realplayer and wakes me up to live BBC radio (I live in Norway - NRK would send me back to sleep.).
Oh and
Once you have all you contacts on your phone I really think you should give Dashwire a go. It is rather spiffing.
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
Oh.....ok....
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I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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what an insightful post, you're in an XDA forum but you're too lazy to "hack" your phone
windows phone 7 is still a baby compared to android and iOS. the partnership with nokia means the ovi store is merging with the marketplace, so this should help, plus the changes in free submissions (allowing 99 free submissions i think) will also help.
its also worth remembering that windows phone 7 on a HD2 is also not official, so i dont see why you would have an issue with unofficial registry hacks!
personally the limitation for me is apps. having used android, i got into the habbit of downloading apps out of bordem, but that is more limited on wp7. i also think the pricing for some of the apps and gams is a little high compared with other platforms. but these often change with time.
i quite like zune in comparison with windows mobile device centre, but i do agree it has some similaritys with itunes.
dont use it if u dont like it
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dont use it if u dont like it
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Exactly,
Don't buy it if you're not going to eat it
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Btw, Your title is just, with all respect, stupid.
Wp7 on hd2 and 1gb of cab file storage
Thanks to all the guys that were involved in developing wp7 for the Hd2. What do you think if Microsoft allowed 1gb of cab file storage on the wp7 platform of the costumers choosing, and they could add or remove files as they please in that 1gb of space?
That's a shame. Put a little time in and get alot out!! You really are missing out.
masteroe12 said:
I'm using Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 in dual mode with Android and want to share my experienes after 3 weeks:
Windows Phone 7
pro:
-performance
contra:
- battery life
- no "really" navigation solution
- no "really" apps from third party (my Synology NAS Station, my Fritz AVM Router, XBMC, .... )
- Zune
Zune reminds me to Apple's Itunes. I prefer "Mass Storage" and could not follow this way with Zune .
I know that they are registry hacks for mass storage method and "ways" to get navigation to work, but until they are not official, windows phone is not really an opportunity for me.
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Wowwww.!!!! This one of the most insightful post !!!!!
Ok m8.... You are probably the XDA guy that ask for help to a problem ...nad the solution is 3-4 posts above !!!!!
Ok.. no prob.... its an alternative to a lot of guys arround here ... and they are lucky to be XDA members...
colossus
I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
;-))
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I love WP7 even though there are still missing features and cant see myself going back to anything else...and WP7 imo will only improve.
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I'm totally with you - the Zune pass got me. I love being able to tag something with Shazam and then have the song or album in a few minutes from the Marketplace.
I have random issues with sound from my headphones, and having to flip to video mode to get the camera to focus kinda bites at times, but those are minor issues compared to all the reboots, hangs, freezes I had with even the stock 6.x rom -
WP7 is great, so great that I almost daily want to go get a real HD7 so I have full hardware functionality.
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The guy has a point too...
There are a lot of things missing from the WP7.There should be at least one normal GPS software, but there is not.
I used WP7, i like were it is going, the battery is better than in Android but at the end of the day i still end up using Android.
Android then WP7, back to Android and so on.Great to have a HD2.
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Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
I just need gps with maps on the device. is this suppose to be on the ovi store? when is that coming?
I too am using dual boot to wp7 and android and enjoying how they compliment each other with both having there strong points that makes up for their individual short comings.
As the wp7 build matures it will only get better. The wp7 takes about 15 seconds to load and the sd android build that I have takes less than 3mins so I can live with switching back and forth.
I really like netflix, the call quality, and email on wp7. Games, gps, maps, flash support, internet browsing, video, and camera I prefer the android build I use.
For me the switching between the two OSs works well.
by definition it is an alternative.
I suppoes you mean, isnt a "good" alternative
My question to you is alternative to what? an iphone? android? pen and paper? carrier Pigeons?
and even then, "good" is subjective, carrier pigeons and pen and paper have many uses that my phone wouldnt be "good" alternative for, for instance i couldnt feed my phone bread in the park, or let me kid run after it flapping like a bird scaring them away, and coming back to IT, i find its completely fine, works, works well, its a perfect "alternative" for me
Huge sweeping statments are a bit daft, fair doos, its not your cup of tea, but i dont think we have to hear about it, after all i couldnt care less what your opinion is because i have my own as do you and thats your right. but im not going to start a thread telling all about my opinion, especially since all your opinions of what are bad are in the public domain, you would have known about them before you even installed it, so its not even a constructive debate or indeed a question,
infact what is the point? to regurgitate the same information thats already been around the block several times?
dgabriel said:
Haven't tried very hard have you?... The built in Map application functions fine for GPS - There's no voice telling you where to go, but anyone can follow the yellow dot... If you need turn by turn, there's always Telenav from T-Mobile...
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I did try but still you can not compare the Navigation available on other platforms with the one(s) available for WP7.This is a problem for me since i can not drive and look at the map the same time.
And Copilot and Navigon said the do not know when or if there will be a Navigation software made by them for WP7.Maybe someone else.
So yes i try and do my homework before i speak.
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I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
Gabe3 said:
I wish copilot would release something, its been almost 5 months.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/copilot-live-navigation-not-coming-to-windows-phone-7
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/tomtom-disinterested-in-windows-phone-7-too