GPS question for newbie - P3600 General

Hi, just a general question here, but does anyone know if and how much data is used (via 3G or GPRS) when using the GPS functionality on the P3600? Just wondered if it works like a standalone GPS system or whether it needs to utilize data in any way.
Thanks

No data usage at all if you are using GPS only. GPS apps such as TomTom don't need to download data on the move as the maps are stored on the system.
Watch out if you are using others such as the one Orange are pushing (Webraska I think?), also things like google maps and Microsoft live search as these will use 3G/GPRS and therefore cost you money.
It's easy to see when an application is starting the 3G/GPRS (data) connection though.

If you are using TomTom, make sure you are NOT using any of the 'added' features such as traffic report etc.. and you'll be fine.

hmm...
I was actually thinking about using the Traffic service from Tom Tom - it was my understanding that it would only download traffic information if you specifically asked for it by pressing a button on the screen - is this correct?
Thanks for the info guys by the way.

That's correct tjw2007.

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Google Mobile Maps and Bluetooth GPS

Hi all,
Just a note to let everyone know that the smartphone solution to configure the Windows GPS API works as is on the Herald.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293397
Enjoy!
Hi,
sorry for this definitively noob question but what can I do with your freeware ?
Does it mean that, if I have a GPS, I can use Google Maps (with satellite view) as the "live map" ? (sorry for the bad translation )
If I remember well, we can't download google map for offline view so it means that we need a data connection through GPRS to download in live the map ?
Thank you and sorry if my questions don't mean anything
bigstyle said:
Hi,
sorry for this definitively noob question but what can I do with your freeware ?
Does it mean that, if I have a GPS, I can use Google Maps (with satellite view) as the "live map" ? (sorry for the bad translation )
If I remember well, we can't download google map for offline view so it means that we need a data connection through GPRS to download in live the map ?
Thank you and sorry if my questions don't mean anything
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yesterday was the first time i use my bluetooth gps with google maps or live search, but i noticed that google maps and live search have to activate the cingular data connection before i can use it..... which means that we cant use that GPS for free?
Both Google Maps and MS Live Search ( Maps ) are "live" meaning they require a data connection ( WiFi, GPRS etc ). Problem is that on the smartphone platform the Windows GPS API that Google Maps uses for its bluetooth interface to exteranl GPS devices is missing the configuration utility in the settings. This is also the case with some PPCs like the Herald.
The utility I wrote allows you to configure the comm port for the GPS API and allow Google Maps to use an external BT GSP device for live tracking on a map.
Hope this explains the funtionality.
Read through the original thread for more details.
Indeed that's a great idea, thank you !
Here in France, it will be quite difficult to use it because we are restricted with a very little data volume for a month so...
And with wifi, even if there is a way to do that, I dont think it is possible because as far as I know we are moving with the GPS so... no AP everytime everywhere
I don't like using wifi to spot locations, maybe it is me, but it doesn't convince, I have never even tried it, I prefer to use a Bluetooth GPS, IMO it is more reliable and you don't depend on anything else. Right now I am looking to upgrade my GPS to a SiRF Star III one and saw one from Deluo for under $100, does anyone have one of these? It looks interesting..... any feedbacks on the performance will be appreciated

TMC without TMC?!

TMC ist a nice thing for navigation-software to react automaticly on current traffic-situations. Most of the software products use this feature.
For this a TMC-receiver must be implemented in the GPS-receiver. The Trinity and other likely PDA´s have it not.
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
Theoreticaly this data can be used for programming a "software-TMC". This could be realise the using of different data-sources for every navigation-software.
I think about using or re-programming the software-com-port in WM5 or higher (start/settings/system/extern gps) which maps the hardware-port com2: to GPD1: by default (other combinations are possible!)
The Point is now:
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How to integrate the traffic-data into the data-stream of the software-com-port GPD1: (or any equivalent port)
This is only an idea...
Oh yes, before i forget:
Answers contents "Who wants this?", "Using of TMC is free and mobile-internet cost money!" are not wanted. Please forgive, but thats not what i want to hear. I know this fact!
But the using of mobile-internet becomes more cheaper and many users have mobile-data-flatrates or volume-packages! Mobile-Internet is growing more and more!
PSlease forgive my maybe "strange" englisch, but I write text in englisch not very often!
pps:maybe that there exists an software that could do the thing I wanted, but I searched in many forums and search-engines - nothing found...
Jassi_1975 said:
Now my idea - or a simple question:
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It must be possible to receive data of the current traffic over the i-net over GPRS/UMTS or maybe per SMS. A download in the office or at home over WLAN should be possible to.
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Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
In Route 66 Navigate 7 it's free of charge, in Version 8 and all TomTom Versions it's not.
Sascha
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That´s the point !
I use iGO. This and many other navigation-software has tmc implemented. Using of TMC is free.
I knew the feature of TomTom. TomTom go its own way in providing traffic-information by money. Route66 and Navigate are not my way - I personaly favorite iGO or navigon.
And: I don´t want to change my navi-software.
My endeavor is to use every traffic-information with every software for free!
SaBo said:
Route 66 Navigate 7 or 8 and TomTom does just that.
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You sure about Route 66? I've been using Route 66 Navigate 7 for several years, and I could never get traffic to work. I ended up switching to CoPilot Live 7.
Besides the programming of the tool as such I'd expect you'll run into the following issues:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Hence I think this is gonna be a very difficult task, though I definitely like the idea!
Cheers,
Markus.
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
nother said:
Hi, i think the idea is very cool...
I use TomTom 6.032 with my HTC Touch Cruise...
keep on working!
I will subscribe to this thread.
have fun
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Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
Christian72D said:
Sorry, but you can not use TMC with TomTom...
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That is not exactly correct.
While you can't use a TMC receiver with Tomtom their online Traffic Service provides just those data.
If I got it correctly that's just the bit Jassi_1975 wants to be replaced by a free of charge alternative.
Cheers,
Markus.
HobGoblin2006 said:
But with Igo an Navigon, so it would be real a great thing,
when we were able to download the tmc data.
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Using Navigon I'm very interested aswell. Before Navigon I had Alturion and it worked great. Since Alturion stopped marketing I miss it. Navigon has the option TMC it only doesn't work with GPRS, just with a BT mouse. Having a Kaiser I find it ridiculous buying an extra BT mouse only for TMC (I have a flat free GPRS abo). Being a noob I have to rely on the experts on the forum, so please have a look
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
obermuem said:
- locate a TMC server that provides the regarding Data for free. Myself I don't use it but I presume e.g. the Route66-Server at least requires a login and that might could be locked to owning the software. TMC-Pro normally is NOT for free!
Alternatively you maybe could grab the Data from a free Traffic Server from HTML, but those normaly don't provide TMC-Pro Data, only the stuff officially announced on the Radio (the "ordinary", free TMC data; at least it is like that in Germany) and hence are not really very useful.
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That´s right, there are some services in html from where we could free collect the traffic-informations. Maybe it´s usefull to plan an "ONLINE-Collector" or so ...
But think about:
http://www.verkehrsinfos.de
http://mobil.verkehrsinfos.de
obermuem said:
- reprogramming/hacking of the regarding Routing Software so it accepts the Data from a Com-Port or anything. At least the commercial Programs hardly are free so I'd presume you'd need to hack it - and that is illegal, anyway.
I'm not aware of any routing Software provided under the GPL, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
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I don´t want to reprogramm/hack any Routing Software - I want to reprogramm (or hack) the given "port-switching" in Windows-Mobile!
So ANY Software which uses TMC can use ANY provided traffic-information. Ok any information we can collect.
btje said:
The idea is great.
I had this idee a while ago but aint that good programmer.
My idea wat to use a website in the NL (where I live) and get traffic data from that,
store it on your device in a file, next emulate a TMC port for fo rinstance igo and you dont have to hack the program.
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This is what I want - the local-data-file is needed, sure
Great idea! There are plenty of free sites with traffic info available, so if you can get this to work it would be awesome. I'd love to test it if you ever get it going. Good luck!
When you think further, it would be possible, that the programm runs in backround an updates every 5 Minutes, perhabs, so you would be able to have the latest traffic messages on your device!
I was looking for the same thing as I used MIO Map. I gave up and now I'm using Garmin Mobile XT which uses I-net and downloads realtime traffic. I don't have any idea how it does it though. Hopefully someone can come up with a solution!
Chris
I don't thing that this is really a big problem to make, the only programm is to someone to do this!
Add me on to the list of people wanting this solution. My personal favourite navigation software is IGo, and ONLY reason I sometimes switch over to TomTom is because I have traffic subscription and it works. If it works with IGo, it would be bye-bye TomTom.
If someone comes up with a solution, i'm willing to donate/pay for it.
same here, if it's worldwide
i will also donate round about 10$ , what about you other guys?
Some devices have built in FM Radio with RDS. Why not use this feature for traffic info?
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GPS with no data?

hey guys i just flashed my sprint touch and am now using dharvey4651's rom. my question is how can i access gps and use maps without having a data connection(i only have a voice and txt plan). I'm pretty sure you have to download maps or something, but i dunno how or where to get them. Thanks!
mastermatt63 said:
hey guys i just flashed my sprint touch and am now using dharvey4651's rom. my question is how can i access gps and use maps without having a data connection(i only have a voice and txt plan). I'm pretty sure you have to download maps or something, but i dunno how or where to get them. Thanks!
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You'll need a GPS app that uses full map sets, I think TomTom used predefined maps.
but where
where can i find the tomtom map. i tried googling it.
mastermatt63 said:
where can i find the tomtom map. i tried googling it.
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They are not free, you will have to go to the website and purchase the maps.
great will do
how to enable GPS on sprint touch
hey champ it seems like you are the champ with all the answers...
how do I enable GPS on sprints touch. and also I really would like to get picsel do you have it or know where to get it.
Rick
6.1
any one know how to get WM 6.1 on my HTC Touch
You'll have to flash a custom ROM with a 3.XX radio that will enable GPS. All Touch's come stock from carriers with a 1.XX radio. Check out the Vogue forum at PPCGeeks, there are tons of ROM's available. Just be sure to read EVERYTHING before you do this or it may end in you having no phone at all!
mastermatt63 said:
hey guys i just flashed my sprint touch and am now using dharvey4651's rom. my question is how can i access gps and use maps without having a data connection(i only have a voice and txt plan). I'm pretty sure you have to download maps or something, but i dunno how or where to get them. Thanks!
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I have an unlimited data plan but I will be away this summer to another country. So I did a bit of search and found this solution: offline Google Map. The google map application won't cache the map (called tiles). You need (a) a software on your pc to download the tiles and (b) a software on your phone to display them.
(b) can be done using this software http://www.mgmaps.com/index.php. It will also do Yahoo, Live ... maps as well when you are online.
(a) can be done using the combination of the web apps here http://www.mgmaps.com/create and the gMapMaker application.
The process is described here:http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1116
It is labor intensive. I only need one city map in India so it works for me. But it won't be a reliable solution for the long term.
csbert said:
I have an unlimited data plan but I will be away this summer to another country. So I did a bit of search and found this solution: offline Google Map. The google map application won't cache the map (called tiles). You need (a) a software on your pc to download the tiles and (b) a software on your phone to display them.
(b) can be done using this software http://www.mgmaps.com/index.php. It will also do Yahoo, Live ... maps as well when you are online.
(a) can be done using the combination of the web apps here http://www.mgmaps.com/create and the gMapMaker application.
The process is described here:http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1116
It is labor intensive. I only need one city map in India so it works for me. But it won't be a reliable solution for the long term.
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Great find! I haven't looked at, or plan on it, but looks like a great solution for anybody without the data plan.

GPS usable without data connection?

Hey everybody,
is there any possibility to use the built-in google maps application without data connection? After disabling every data data connection and activating gps, I get an error telling me that a data connection is needed.
This doesn't sound logic, does it? I mean, I activated the GPS-module, so where is the prob?
Can anybody help me?
THX
Sebastian
The GPS will work without a data connection.....however, GoogleMaps needs a connection to download the maps of your area.....
Alternatively, you can use onboard nav solutions like TomTom7, Navigon, Igo, McGuider etc.....none of them free, though....
Is there an app that will simply use the onboard GPS to give you your position, speed, bearing, etc? Just a position would be useful. Either lat and long, or, say, OS grid ref.
Have a look to Nonigpsplot or Visualgpsce
Checking them out now. Thanks very much.
Personally I'm using BeeLineGPS, a commercial successor of VisualGPSce
That looks good too. Thanks.
http://terracrosser.com/
It's a free googlemaps offline maps !

I am New How to Use GPs in india Free!!?

PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
animelover said:
Do you mean GPS (Global Positioning System) or GPRS (General Packet Radio Service)!
If first, simply search and install HTC GPS Tool for activating your intenal GPS! The Tool is really self-explaining! If you meant GPRS, yo'll need a special data option from your provider for a fixed amount of money each month!
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Thanks so mch for your reply.
i need a GPS Software for india....
i have downloded the HTC GPS tool but from that i cannot navigate...
i want a program where i can seen the map of my city MUMBAI and can navigate!!!!
google maps
you only pay for data transfer
it's the cheapest option other than garmin xt or tomtom navigator, which cost around $100
MyMapIndia
vinodxxx said:
PLease any one here can tell me
i have a HTC diamond Indian Version.....
i want to use GPS in it that too free...
i know its possible but can any one tell me how !!..?
will be really thankful to you!!
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Try My Map India or Garmin XT you will get it for free map of india search for it
you can try smart2Go which is basically for nokia, also the same can be used on wm try it
I've found a nice site about using GPS in India. There is a list of programs you can use: click
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
vinodxxx said:
Thanks for your Replies...
but still it have not served the purpouse!!...
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Download tomtom home form the website, if you use that to install the latest version of tomtom to your diamond you will get one free city map to try it out its bettter than nothing and its free init lol
You can use Mapking,
It's not free but not expensive , and u have Trial few days...
it means without GPRS
i cannot use GPS!!!..
is that true!!.
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
It uses the Internet connection to download Google Maps data.
GPS is used for getting your actual position. With that position Google Maps will download a card snippet representing your actual position.
vinodxxx said:
i tried google maps ..
but it uses Internet... when i connected to my computer!!...
so if it uses internet then whats the use of GPS!!!...
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Dude... there are 2 types of GPS technology. GPS and AGPS(AsssistedGPS). programs like Google maps uses AGPS service, means, they use a packet service (GPRS/EDGE), to get a faster GPS fix. If you choose a GPS program,say Satguide etc.. they completely rely on GPS (can work without GPRS/EDGE), but you have to pay for the service and maps. You might get trial versions of these softwares, but i dont think any of them provides it for free.
Alternatively you could try GPS cycle computer, which would track ur path, speed, directions, altitude... , but it is not designed to overlay your current location on a map. However, it can provide you with a graph details about your route.
dude download map my india software....i will send u india's map........its free to use and dosent need any gprs connection

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