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Orange payg all you can eat gprs.

Sorry if you all already know this, but orange payg are offering unlimited gprs for only £1 per day, i've been using it for about 2 weeks and it's pretty good, it's a full data connection too so you can get emails or sync over the air etc. In my opinion the best part is that you can pick and choose when you want it.

yeah i'm on it too. The Orange Unlimited GPRS extra for £1 thing right?
People signing upwith Orange to get this extra,REMEMBER, the gprs extra runs out at midnight, regardless of what time you apply it!
Applying it at 23:00 is just plain stupid cos you'll have to re-apply the extra at 00:00 anyway.
I've got a contact stored on my XDA that is assigned to a speed dial key. When pressed, it automatically re-applies the extra.
To do the same, create a new contact & give it this phone number: 450p#p3p1p4p1p1
The call to 453 should take about 45 secs, after that your extra should be applied
THE GPRS DOES NOT INCLUDE DOWNLOADING OVER P2P PORTS!!! almost everything else works fine (ftp, http, https, msn messenger, e-mail-etc) but using p2p costs you money, regardless of whether the extra is applied or not.
anyone know of a PPC app that dials a contact at a scheduled time and disconnect after X seconds? would be real useful for this

does that mean i cud use skype on it?

jaceuk said:
does that mean i cud use skype on it?
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No, gprs is to slow for skype. My T-mobile gprs is about 40-50kbits/s. (flat-fee for 9,50 euro's a month )

sorry but what why can i use?
im looking into all thsi mobile net stuff but need to find the facts before i lay out money
if i try to get info in store they just try and sell,me stuff i dont need

Well its about the same speed as dial up, so you can surf the net (albeit slowly) and you can use MSN and collect email. its useful but its no replacement for wifi or 3G. I use it when I'm at work (i do a lot of waiting around)

Are you sure you are right ???? GPRS
Ive just picked up an orange sim and yes the £1.00 per day unlimited offer still stands but its for orange world , not other services . I thought from the original thread that this would give me GPRS access to the web ?
Can you confirm what service you have been getting with it ?
Im looking for a basic internet connection I dont mind slow but I do mind £2.35 and upwards per Meg .!!!
Any thoughts
Astro1

I can confirm (with 390 megs of GPRS used under my belt) that it works with any http address.
Haha, if the service worked with P2P, orange'd have been raped for bandwidth by now.

So i got push email... Now my data bill is 200$... For the second time.

hey,
i installed push email (port88) on my phone, i have had it for two months (awesome service).
The only problem is my databill is 200$... for the second time. I have a 1 meg plan. i dont receive many emails on this phone.
I apparently went over 5 megabyets. My phone doesn't go over 0.05 KB a message as i have the default option to restrict it from downloading anymore.
I probably received 80 emails in a month (thats exagerating it). If we multiply 80x0.05 we get 4. Thats 4 Kilobytes used. I also send about 6 emails a month. That's not even 10kilobytes a month.
I never use my browser and it doesn't browse to sites itself (due to being in my pocket.) And the only data i use is for my email.
Does anyone have any ideas to what can be happening?

your phone could be autoconnecting to gprs/edge. and the constant connection could be sending kb back and forth without your knowledge.

hiimcliff is right on..
The way direct push works is that it maintains an HTTP(S) connection back to the Exchange Server.. Even though you might not be receiving emails, the phone will still be sending data to maintain the connection. That's the likely cause of it.

I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.

imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.

imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.

be careful with that. providers are sometimes know to revert your phone back to the original and that could result in changing your plan back to a per/kb plan which can cost you loads of money.
computer9cowboy said:
connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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computer9cowboy said:
connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.

hiimcliff said:
thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.
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I'm sorry, can you please rephrase taht?

imasri29 said:
lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.
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well if you had sucked it up and paid the $20 a month you would have saved money in the end.
$20 a month is a freakin steal man. TAKE IT. Then you can wire up your push email to download all your atachments and full messages, you can hook up to your laptop and let loose.
I love my unlimited data plan. I used to pay $75 a month for it. I would gladly pay that again on each device. For me I will pay whatever it takes to make my life better easier faster.
I can get up from my desk and go anywhere I please and stay connected to work, this is huge for me. Clients call my office get routed to my cell and I can look over emails they have sent. Then if need be i can pull out the laptop and get online to fix problems or whatever.
Data in my pocket, is kick ass.

T-Mobile UK GPRS problem? W'n'W Plus and Max mainly

I'm not sure, but i want to ask if is anyone experiencing some GPRS problems. I can connect to inet w/o probs, i can browse web...., but i cannot connect to IRC(using wmirc or pirc), ICQ or MSN(im+435) or i have troubles with ftp(resco I tried passive and active mode) Am I tho only one or something similar is happenig to others? I'm using HTC-Uni(latest WM6 build 17....)

IRC is blocked as far as i know, unless you use wnw+ or wnw-max. IM apps arent allowed just as much as VoIP over webnwalk.

i use wnw, on contract dont know if its wnw+. it worked a week ago?suddenly stopped. ****ing t-mobil.(maybe because they had to pay £200 for inconvenience)will call them

ive heard a few reports of this today, seems tmob might be cracking down on it??
I havent been able to use irc / stream music etc.... since getting my contract (about 3 weeks ago)

i cannot use ftp as well, just thinking if those bastards didnt start blocking all ports except for 21, 80, IMAP, SMTP, POP3 :-( if yes i'll chec my contract and will take some legal actions ( I love compensation for inconvinience)

Stuck
Hello everyone, ive been trying to follow these T-mobile UK GPRS problems, related post because im in the same boat. My msn messenger wont work and ive given up, (use webmessenger: works fine though). Yahoo messenger will not allow me to make pc 2 pc call any more but works for chatting.
However strange, i am begining to suspect T-mobile UK as they are obliged to do, are cracking down on VOIP / IRC protocols.
Also need to mention that skype and msn messenger works fine from my SPV M3100 so its does confuse me a bit.
Now im wondering should i delete this post A.S.A.P before some t-mobile network engineer see's it and gets to work ? Im only a student(as good as pensioner: financially) who lives on his own, so wNw MAX is mostly out of the way, might need to get a broadband connection

Don't delete the post, they probably wouldn't care what you say. (A t-mobile dude was telling me to flash a different rom to my xda, so it would be fully compatible with them!)
Unfortuneatly on t-mobile they do not allow IM services on their web 'n' walk internet I think you'd have to find a wifi point.

i read fair usage policy, its not alloved for w'n'w but for w'n'w plus is no mention of IM. i sent them a letter via their web, so i'm awaiting answer

phsnake said:
I'm not sure, but i want to ask if is anyone experiencing some GPRS problems. I can connect to inet w/o probs, i can browse web...., but i cannot connect to IRC(using wmirc or pirc), ICQ or MSN(im+435) or i have troubles with ftp(resco I tried passive and active mode) Am I tho only one or something similar is happenig to others? I'm using HTC-Uni(latest WM6 build 17....)
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Which WnW package are you on?
btw before people start complaning that they cant get on msn,etc check which WnW package you have
Wnw
WnW Plus
Wnw Max
then check the TnC to see if it allows you to use that service
Flext + web'n'walk plans
Subject to connection to Flext or U-Fix + web 'n' walk. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Subject to coverage. Compatible handset required. Roaming charges apply. Not applicable to connection via CSD. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers a 1GB (of data both sent and received in the UK) per month fair use policy applies. If you exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 1GB per month for a third time , we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging. Roaming charges apply.
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Flext + web'n'walk Plus plans
Subject to connection to Flext + web 'n' walk Plus. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 3GB (of data sent and received in the UK) per month applies. If you exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 3GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service for internet phone calls. Roaming charges apply.
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Flext + web'n'walk Max plan
Subject to connection to selected Flext + web'n'walk Max price plans. Minimum term contract and credit check applies. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 10GB (of UK data both sent and received) per month applies. If you exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 10GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. Roaming charges apply.
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so if your using skype, msn,etc on the basic WnW and they block that, no point in complaning as you wont have a leg to stand on

i'm on wnw+ so im pissed off. i sesnt them a mail on sund. i do not use skype as viop client only for IM. but i cannot use im+(icq...), mchat, msn messenger, irc. pinkies in callcenter are stupid, they told me that they dont provide supp for 3rd party apps (except the **** in tmo's rom - and U must have extrom installed-so no way to have icon for msn). they sent me back nice letter that they recieved my complain and i will get ans within 5working days. its friday 2:11am and still nothing. BTW IM was reason for wnw2wnw+ upgrade. they are ****ing bastards.

Go to connection settings and clear the checkbox beside "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet"

Anyone using U1000 in aus with 3G Help

anyone here can help me.
i stealing internet from 3g.
am able to get online with out any plan,
what i did is just put the sim card in and turn the phone on.
am able to explorer the net. and use msn to chat so on.
but it stops when i upgrd to WM6. it only aollws to explorer but not letting conect to msn
is any one have the same prolems
or can anyone help me

b0yb0y said:
anyone here can help me.
i stealing internet from 3g.
am able to get online with out any plan,
what i did is just put the sim card in and turn the phone on.
am able to explorer the net. and use msn to chat so on.
but it stops when i upgrd to WM6. it only aollws to explorer but not letting conect to msn
is any one have the same prolems
or can anyone help me
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Nobody would help you to STEAL

which phone plan are you on? Please note that of you are say telstra or virgin mobile customer you are always able to get hsdpa connectio without first signing up for their data plan. In this case, all data usage will be charged at the ultra expensive rate of about 1.5 cents per kb. This is also the rate one pays for exceeding the allocated quota under a data plan. I know there was a guy with a 1 gb plan who was billed about 15k in a month for exceeding his plan by 7 percent.
I hope your telco has not just stolen from YOU instead of the other way round!

am using 3G's 99 plan for now.
i have been checking my bill's. it didnt show a big rise
i think i may keep look

perhaps you should do some research here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=124 aboutdata plans in australia.
If you are on the "3" network you are roaming anywhere outside the limited network and charges are then anything but free
BTW I also upgraded to the WM6 and have a virgin (only 300mb )data plan and have no connection troubles

I'm a bit lucky that I got the 1gb data pack for $10 from virgin before they changed the plan offer.
I normally use about 800mb per month, but I still watch my usage with a gprs monitor. The penalty for exceeding the quotas is scary, judging by the postings to the whirlpool forum. I'm frankly quite concern for people who innocently step into the trap of using it thinking it is free,or carelessly exceed the quota. The rate of 1.5 cents per kb is day light robbery. Display of one web page could cost close to $10!

excess fees

How can I make the wing safe so I don't incur any unnecessary fees? I've read stories about how some used the internet and he was charged $2000 for only one month. Anyone with similar experience?

Get a program that monitors GPRS activity to make sure you don't go over your allotted data usage... or sign up for the unlimited data plan with your service provider.

Is there a plan i can get to prevent this? There's a data plan for $5.99. Do I need this plan if I plan to use AIM?

If you're going to use the Internet (beyond AIM/SMS/MMS).. things like google.com, or searches, or other websites..
Get the Total Internet Addon, $39.99/mo.. this also gives your phone wifi hotspot access when you're at a t-mobile hotspot
If you're Texting, I believe T-Mobile has 3 Texting plans:
4.99 = 400
9.99 = 1000
14.99 = Unlimited
These will not cover E-mails and any web-surfing...
IMO, if you want to prevent overages:
-Pick a minute plan you can't easily touch
-Get Total Internet Addon
-Get more Text messages then you think you need
I went with Unlimited Text and Internet, and my minute plan was a promotional rate (1000 min / 39.99) .. So basically I'll never see an overage charge.... Unless I go on T-Mobile web and download ringtones and wallpapers.. why would someone do that with the Wing? I don't know

BBM-Lee said:
If you're going to use the Internet (beyond AIM/SMS/MMS).. things like google.com, or searches, or other websites..
Get the Total Internet Addon, $39.99/mo.. this also gives your phone wifi hotspot access when you're at a t-mobile hotspot
If you're Texting, I believe T-Mobile has 3 Texting plans:
4.99 = 400
9.99 = 1000
14.99 = Unlimited
These will not cover E-mails and any web-surfing...
IMO, if you want to prevent overages:
-Pick a minute plan you can't easily touch
-Get Total Internet Addon
-Get more Text messages then you think you need
I went with Unlimited Text and Internet, and my minute plan was a promotional rate (1000 min / 39.99) .. So basically I'll never see an overage charge.... Unless I go on T-Mobile web and download ringtones and wallpapers.. why would someone do that with the Wing? I don't know
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Thanks for help! So if I decide to use starbucks wifi or my own wifi than I would need the total internet addon? What about the $5.99 data plan? What does that do?

Correction, unlimited internet is now only 19.99 for all phones.
It used to be 29.99 for wings and non blackberry (blackberry is 19.99), but now its all the same price..
Trust me, just get unlimited. Otherwise you'll be charged by the MB when you go over the limit, and it gets REALLY costly.
Also, WIFI is free, no matter where you are. As long as theres a signal, and internet on that signal, you can use wifi for free regardless what internet plan you have/dont have
the 5.99 data plan is like a dumbed down version of the internet in my opinion. It allows for quick online look ups (like places to eat, movies, sports, ect), but it lacks the FULL capability of the internet like included in the 19.99 package. But like I said, just get unlimited. Especially since its so cheap now, if you have a Smartphone or PPC, there's no reason NOT to get it.

oh, and one more thing. Those prices for messaging listed above are correct, UNLESS, you have MyFaves. If you do, then unlimited texting is only 9.99

TylerC161 said:
oh, and one more thing. Those prices for messaging listed above are correct, UNLESS, you have MyFaves. If you do, then unlimited texting is only 9.99
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Really? I have myfaves and they told me it's 14.99. What's the deal with that?