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Starting yesterday, anywhere from Agoura Hills to Woodland Hills, i'm getting 3G signal everywhere! HOORAY!

We've had 3.5G w/HSDPA and video calling here in the Philippines since December 2005. Not bad for a 3rd world country. Smart Telecom 3G costs roughly 40 cents an hour for pre-paid sim users, and Globe Telecom charges about 3 cents for each kb downloaded with 3.5G (just lowered prices by 50%). On the other hand, 1024 cable internet costs about $87.00 a month, compared to the $19.95 I was paying in North Hollywood.

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GPRS prices all over the world

Hi
I decided to create this thread to find out how much does gprs cost in different countries.
In Poland it's about 70gr/1kb (100gr = 1zl, 3.3zl = 1eur, 1$ = 2.4zl)
But there are also some packets, for example in PLUS network you pay 10zl/50mb (0.14$/100kb, but first you must send sms to activate this packet).
How is it in another countries?
There are pf course premium GPRS/3G/HSDPA packages for those who use their pc's for mobile broadband etc.
I have one of the cheapest carriers on GPRS data (OneCall) and no sum to pay pr . month (excl. used sms/data/phone) and I pay 5kr/MB which is 0.82USD pr MB
Just signed up to a rolling 30 day contract with Vodafone UK for the following:
75mins/500 texts - £10
500Mb - £7.50
Not sure on the charge if i go over.
In Orange Dom. Rep. you get:
5Mb./US$4.95 or roughly 0.99/MB.
Unlimited/US$53.00.
Additional Mb. US$1.83.
in Vietnam, GPRS unlimited pkg cost 8$/month, or 0.12$/mb.
In Mexico
I have a 150mb monthly plan for $450 mexican pesos = $43USD
Much much cheaper in Vietnam!!
Mexican carriers are well known for having the most expensive rates all over the world
Sri Lanka
For GPRS/EDGE/HSPA in Sri Lanka Its
5 USD for 300mb
10 USD for 1000mb
and 0.1USD per additional 10 mb
25 USD for Unlimited (5gb fair usage policy)
In India AIRTEL provides EDGE Access for INR 199/- (approx $4) for unlimited data transfers.
netherlands: Gprs
t-mobile flatfee
Euro 9,50, unlimited data.
denmark
variating prices from each phone company and
even each subscription types from the companys.
Mexico - Telcel
I am paying in Mexico 379Pesos = 31 USA Dollars. for an Unlimited plan with Telcel
it includes 500 MB full speed about 1000kbps (3G), when i reach 501MB, the speed will be only 128Kps...
Cheers
hung_ng said:
in Vietnam, GPRS unlimited pkg cost 8$/month, or 0.12$/mb.
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;o
i'm shocked, $8 for unlimited access... and how is it with umts/hsdpa range in Vietnam?
in Paraguay i'm paying 5 U$ for 160 MB monthly.
not so bad i guess.
In Brunei.. there is only 2 operator..
1) DSTCom : BND0.01/200kb - Prepaid
BND0.005/100 kb - Postpaid
2) BMobile : BND0.01/50kb - Prepaid & Postpaid
And I am using DSTCom Prepaid..
In Italy, for UMTS traffic
"3" offers a plan of 50MBytes/day at 9 Euro/month or 3 Euro/Week
(only for Public Administration) Telecom Italia Mobile offers a special fare of
500MB/month at 2.5Euro/month or
10 GB/month (practically unlimited) at 7.50 Euro/month
Skype works well with both providers
In Czech republic
T-mobile - unlimited data plan monthly : 42 USD only GPRS or EDGE in all country, there is not 3G usable in phone...
Vodafone and O2 its the same **** - aboout 42 USD unlimited GPRS and EDGE in all country and 3G network only in Prague - capitol of CZ, 3G from O2 in Brno - second large city...
Our little country is very expensive "data desert" with slow gprs or edge...
O2 UK I have unlimited (1Gig Fair Usage though) for £7.50 p/mth, howerver I pay nothing for it as I have it as my free bolt-on. T-mobile UK also has 1gig for £7.50 or 3gig for about £12 p/mth. A lot better than what Orange or Vodafone are able to offer.
pays less than $2 for unlimited gprs
In India, Airtel gives unlimited download/upload gprs for 99 rupees($2 only) only for corporate connections
Philippines
Here there's 3 official Providers:
per KB download:
Globe : US$0.00511 = 25Kb
Per Timed download:
Globe : US$0.20458 = 15 minutes
Per KB download:
Smart : US$ 0.00511 = 25KB
Per Timed download:
Globe : US$0.20458 = 15 minutes
Sun Cellular:
Only broadband for PC i think.... (not sure)
Hope it helps
in Indonesia
standart price = 1 IDR / kb equal to 0,1 US$ / mb
and there s a monthly payment special packet
unlimited = 10 US$ / month (2 GB quota,after that the speed will be limited )

HD2 - Best Network?!

Hi there
My t-mobile contract ends within few weeks and I really want the HD2! My early upgrade offers were reallly bad, so I wait what they offer when the contract actually ends.. BUT - if I switch to other network... please let me know:
***Is there any difference in unlimited internet between T-Mobile (its fast on my Web&Walk!), Virgin, Vodafone?
***Customer service... Im really been happy with T-Mob, I had bad exp with Virgin but that was years ago... what you think?
***Any other plusses having HD2 with certain network?
Thanks guys and girls!
It depends on where you live and on the signal of where you are, there isn't a BEST NETWORK for a phone.
Yes- it's no good getting a cheap deal but finding yourself with no signal!
Mobile Internet: They all still advertise 'unlimited' but they all impose a fair usage policy.
Virgin, T-Mobile and Three have 1GB FUP; O2 say theirs is genuinely unlimited but they reserve the right to throttle the accounts of those they consider abusing the service; Vodafone and Orange both have a limit of 500MB.
but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
fz9999 said:
but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
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or you can actually use because they have the signal they advertise..
I can't wait to leave vodafone now, because I've found their coverage to be so bad, despite shown as getting 3g and told it was a temporary fault I find coverage at home to be poor to non existent, and 3g spots to be much smaller than stated often losing coverage outside any halfway decent sized town..
VF Customer service (business) are very good in my experience, until a complaint gets passed onto the network team when they start to come up with every excuse known to mankind.
Seriously tempted to just use my spare "3" payg sim when the contract runs out as I get full coverage and it's cheaper, and I get coverage 99% of the places I travel.
O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
I'm going to give mobilesphonesdirect a ring, to see what they can do the HD2 for as an upgrade on Tmobile. Tmobile want £340 for me to upgrade, or I can cancel and take out a new contract with m.p.d and pay £93 for the phone for £25 a month. That's £13 more for the phone than Virgin, but we're still not sure if Virgin throttle the data speeds more than Tmobile.
Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
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Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
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I'm with Vodafone on their £20/month sim-only deal and worryingly I've found signal to be better where I live (which is advertised as variable outdoor coverage on their 3G map) than where I work (which is advertised as strong indoor 3G), so don't rely on their 3G coverage map service as the gospel truth.
I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb broadband link, not too shabby.
Order a load of free pay and go sim cards from the different networks and try them out in the areas you frequent all the time.
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I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb+ broadband link, not too shabby.
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??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
NeilM said:
??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
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Fair enough, I'm just relating to real-world conditions where 5mb broadband doesn't equal anywhere near 5000kbps My 18mb broadband connection only achieves 1mb/s download speeds for example
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
I used to be with Virgin and the coverage was great, now with Vodafone and was always told about their superior coverage compared to other networks.
I have to say I'm sadly dissapointed, I often find it drops out completely. Even in the city centre where you'd assume coverage would be good, I often get "cold" spots with no signal, yet 25m down the road I have full HSDPA signal..... weird.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
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That's what it seems, although we are trying to see if Tmobile restrict and throttle the Virgin side of things even more...
See this thread here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615643
O2's data limit is actually 1GB per month, they just don't like to tell people.
If you negotiate a bit with T-Mobile you may be able to get onto their 3GB/month tariff at not much (if any) extra cost. (When I was buying I had a choice between 900 minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB/month or 1000 minutes, 500 texts and 3GB/month at the same price).
T-Mobile handset deals generally work out cheaper than other networks, but there are hidden extras: you have to pay for Voicemail calls (they don't come out of your minutes) and you don't get any free MMS messages at all (while O2, say, counts an MMS message as four SMS messages from your allowance).
One thing that irritates me about T-Mobile is that they don't support EDGE, which means if there's no 3G signal you drop straight to basic GPRS speeds. Back when I was with O2, if there was no 3G signal there was still a chance you could get EDGE, which is substantially quicker than plain GPRS.
I'd advise any buyer to be wary of mobilephonesdirect - their after-sales service is simply shocking, so if your phone develops a fault you may not get a replacement unless you're willing to take legal action.
Just to add to the previous post,
Vodafone and Virgin Mobile also charge you for MMS messages
Virgin mobile seem to cap data speed at about 384kbps.
Most of them cap the speed.
In fact I tried m.speedtest.com in a vodafone store and the phone refused to load the site.
My vodafone account got defrauded and they charged me for calls which were obviously fraudulent - masked number to US/canada at over £1 a minute that appeared as 121 on my bill....on the 29th of the month every month since November.
So I'm not happy with their idiocy but it forced me to try T-mobile.
I've found that in most places T-mobile works better than vodafone - I seem to have a 3G signal in more places and more consistently. however, that means that my E65 only lasts barely a day....With vodafone's 3G constantly dropping most of the time I was on 2G...haha, funny that!!
I think the 2/2.5G signal of vodafone is better. The 3G T-mobile signal is better. At least where i go. T-mobile reaches deep into the basement of my law school, whereas vodafone could only reach 2feet into the area.
Vodafone pluses:
includes voicemail to mins
Much cheaper fixed rate roaming not per minute
Robust 2G network
competitive plans.
T-mobile plusses:
1GB data
Much better 3G network.
-ves:
Charge for voicemail
Expensive roaming.
Less good 2G network.
Quite expensive tariffs and phones.
Virgin pluses:
Cheapest deal with mins+phone for free without going ot reseller.
T-mobile network
-ves:
unknown newbie - reseller.
Data capped at 384.
I was on a T-Mobile Combi 30 + W'n'W for £35 a month (18 month contract, 600mins/unlimited txts) plan, when it came time to upgrade a fortnight ago they wanted £70 for the phone, which I would happily have paid. Fortunately they didn't have any in stock at the time. I say fortunately as another rep called me back about a week later and proposed I go on the Flext 35 for 18 months, which has a £180 per month allowance (plus internet) but the phone is free, since I never use anywhere near my minutes, or send millions of txts it's a good plan for me, plus free HD2!
The phone comes without any T-Mobile graffiti on it thankfully, and since HardSPL was released, the stock branded T-Mobile ROM lasted all of an hour.
Also really depends in which country you reside.
Vodafone NL never warned me for over-usage, while I had months exceeding 500MB PER SESSION.. Never heard from them.
Speed is about 1mbit/s here at home. Signal is good in most cases. On the highway I usually get 2mbit/s.
May be slightly off topic but anyone else using this phone with Virgin and having issues with connection?
Mine says 3g sometimes but then reverts to H or even G. Also having issues at work where coverage is supposed to be good but there are times I'm not getting any signal at all. Did try the sim in anoether phone and the signal was strong so wondering if its the phone.
Thanks in advance!
Towserspvm2000 said:
O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Welcome to the group!! Hope the phone is what you want. You will be in for a steep learning curve, but this is the best forum group to ask questions in.

TMo 3G vs. Att 3G

Do you guys know how is TMo 3g compared to Att (I live in NYC). I've always been only with Att (currently Fuze) but want HD2. I would need to pay ~$100 to terminate my contract but not sure if it worth switching to TMo just because the phone is great. Anyone has recently switched?
My 2 cents...
I had a TMO account (US-Chicago area) up until last week. I was holding on to it ONLY to get the HD2 US TMO model. Once I found out that the Telstra model worked on ATT and I confirmed it--I dropped my TMO acct. TMO 3G wasn't great, and it wasn't as fast as ATT where I live. I couldn't even make phone calls or data connections from within my house with TMO...but that's just ME.
I never used ATT, but I use T-Mobile and I have full bars in Manhattan on my HTC Dream.
My friend did switch from ATT to T-Mobile. I haven't heard anything about signal differences. The monthly fees should be cheaper on T-Mobile for similiar services.
technillion said:
I had a TMO account (US-Chicago area) up until last week. I was holding on to it ONLY to get the HD2 US TMO model. Once I found out that the Telstra model worked on ATT and I confirmed it--I dropped my TMO acct. TMO 3G wasn't great, and it wasn't as fast as ATT where I live. I couldn't even make phone calls or data connections from within my house with TMO...but that's just ME.
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I was going to do the same. However, $449 on TMo without contract vs. ~1000 from Testra is a big difference for me. Thanks for your input.
The main differences to keep in mind for anyone living in the major metropolitan areas (New York, Chicago, Philly, etc...) is that sometime in 2010 Tmobile will have HSPA+ in those places where it used to be just normal 3G.
You can't compare At&t's 3G to those speeds by any means.
Heres a Tmobile test review if you haven't seen it yet:
http://jkontherun.com/2009/12/08/t-mobile-21-mbps-hspa-network-hands-on/
This launch will hopefully be completed by the end of 2010 in all major areas where Tmobile currently has 3G.
Here is how long At&t customers are said to wait:
http://www.betanews.com/article/ATT...ade-does-not-promise-faster-speeds/1262734305
Just think about this when choosing a carrier
Another note to keep in mind is Price per month.
With At&t the lowest you can have a plan with all needed services for the HD2 (pulled from their site for the tilt2)
would be: 450 minutes and Unlimited Messaging, Data, Tethering (only 5gb's a month) which is $99 a month
With Tmobile the lowest you can have a plan with all needed services depends on whether its contract or no contract.
Contract plan cost = 500 minutes and Unlimited Data, Messaging, Tethering (10 gb of tethering with no possible overage charges) which is $80 a month
Non Contract plan = All the same as the above except only $59.99 a month.

Hell freezes over: Ala carte SIM cards invade Japan

Full article with links here:
http://softbanksucks.blogspot.com/2010/03/hell-freezes-over-ala-carte-sim-cards.html
For the first time, unlocked smart phones can be properly used in Japan for data transfer, but there is a big catch. The initial plans will be data only. Voice is not supported.
Japan Communications announced yesterday the 通信電池 b-mobileSIM ("communication battery" b-mobileSIM) series. The first offering will be the "b-mobileSIM U300," which will go on sale from April 5, 2010.
Data transfer speeds are advertised to be a "best effort" maximum of 300 kbps up and down using Docomo's 3G network.
Three plans are available, each with unlimited packet usage for a set amount of time:
1 year for 29,800 yen
6 months for 14,900 yen
1 month for 2980 yen.
This is significantly cheaper than any unlimited 3G data plan from either Softbank or Docomo. A credit check/"examination" with the Japan Approvals Institute for Telecommunications Equipment (電気通信端末機器審査協会 JATE)and the Telecom Engineering Center(テレコムエンジニアリングセンター TELEC)is required.
Finally, you have some progress over there to enjoy!
Unfortunately, 300 kbps is a joke in terms of speed, but it is a step in the right direction and only the first offering in a series of upcoming products.
If it truly gets symmetrical 300 kbps, not 100 or 50 kbps on average, then that would be enough for voip and low-res you tube, though.
Interesting, is it possible to get that card (or rather pass that credit check) with only a tourist visa?
No details have been released yet, so I can't say for sure, but I would wager that it will be highly unlikely to get one on a tourist visa, at least at first.

Three UK £15pm ($23pm) unlimited 3G/4G tariff!

For those of you unaware, Three UK is one of the main networks/carriers in the UK. Starting from tomorrow they are reintroducing their "One Plan" tariff at a brand new price of £15pm with a 12 month agreement or £18pm with a 1 month agreement.
What you get is-
2000 Cross Network Minutes
5000 Texts
5000 3 to 3 Minutes (same network)
Unlimited data on 3G and 4G
Unlimited Tethering
£15pm/$23pm/€18pm
Three have introduced a new 4G promise where they are upgrading customers on any exisiting tariff to 4G LTE free of charge when they launch the service later this year. Three currently have a DC-HSPA+ compatible network with 98% coverage and speeds of up to 42mbps (similar to T-Mobile USA).
With this plan there is no fair use policy on the data and people in the past have literally tethered over 200GB in the past with no issues at all. I myself use around ~30GB on average every month. Speeds are great as well as it's currently the best 3G network in the UK and i regularly get over 10mbps and even over 20mbps sometimes. And with the 4G addition coming later this year this plan provides the best value on the market by far and is actually the only unlimited data tariff which allows you to tether.
The price before the price drop was £25pm. But at £15pm this is a bargain and will be available to buy from three tomorrow.
http://www.three.co.uk

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