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What SD?

With my JAMin in the post and I sold my 1GB SD with my JAM what is the maxium I can get and work?
I really want a 4GB can I do this?
Thanks

Yes I can confirm that the 4 gig card will work. Mine is a transcend brand and It works well.
Mike

A 2GB SimpleTech card works well on mine as well. This same card did not work on the Magician.

just to add to the list the a-data 4gb mmc plus works first time in the JAMin.

rkde said:
just to add to the list the a-data 4gb mmc plus works first time in the JAMin.
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Thank you, thank you! I've just got one from eBay and wasn't sure about cpmpatability until I was your post!

rkde said:
just to add to the list the a-data 4gb mmc plus works first time in the JAMin.
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I have this card and the camera application will not write to the 4GB SD card. Everything else I’ve tried on the JAMin and the 4GB SD card is fine. I had a 1GB SD that worked with the JAMin camera application but the 4GB SD does not. Looking for a fix, I’m going to try stopping the extended ROM from loading but I’ve never done that and I have not loaded anything or hacked the JAMin in any way.

i'm using a San Disk 1GB works excellent. I would suggest you try the 2 Gb one (if that's enough for u )

Hi Tanquen.
Your problem can be fixed by filling up your 4GB SD card with files (such as MP3 songs) till it has <2GB left. Then the camera software can write to the SD card. It looks like there is a bug in the camera software that it can't work if SD card has more than 2GB space.
Try it.

I have problem with Transcend 2Gb x150 SDcard on my new Qtek S200. It loosing connection with SD when reading or writing a lot big files. Looks like this card too fast for S200.

4 GB 150X SD Card tried on O2 ?

I am about to buy a 4 GB 150x Class 2 SDHC Secure Digital Card for my recently bought O2 Neo handset. I would like to know if anyone has tried this earlier and knows if it works.
Umesh
O2 Neo

i have a-data 4gb turbo sd 150x and it works well

Thanks Speeed. Do you know if that is a Class 2 SDHC. I remember reading some post here which said a SDHC 2.0 format might not be compatible with HTC Prophet.

is SDHC working in a prophet?
Hey Umesh, I do have exactly the same question. I already have a 1 GB SD card. But now I need to upgrade and I am wondering if I can buy a SDHC class 2 or even SDHC class 6 card. Can you please post your experiences.
ADVAthanksNCE, Peter

umesh said:
I am about to buy a 4 GB 150x Class 2 SDHC Secure Digital Card for my recently bought O2 Neo handset. I would like to know if anyone has tried this earlier and knows if it works.
Umesh
O2 Neo
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I have the Transcend 150x 4gb SD working in my Prophet for almost a year. The only issue is one that applies to all SD cards and not just the 4gb, that is today plugins sometimes don't like to be on the SD card, otherwise everything works perfectly. It seems to me I remember at the time I bought my 4gb SD card there were some models that had issues with the Prophet. I guess you could just get one of the cards that has already been proven to be compatible.

transcend card
I also have a 4gB transcend card that works perfectly....

gujjuman said:
I also have a 4gB transcend card that works perfectly....
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You can order one here, they have others for sale too, but you might want to get one that works for sure.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820163159

Topram 4Gb
I have a Topram 4Gb 150x sd card and have had no problems. I got it from Ebay.
please note it uses SD 1.1, which is the maximum the Prophet supports.
check it out here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOPRAM-150X-4...ryZ18871QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hi,
I have a samsung oem 4go 150x, bought on ebay from fastmemoryman, and it is also working perfectly on my prophet.

Topram and Soho failed. Still looking for a good 4GB card!
Hello guys,
Here's my experience with 4GB SD card dilemma using a Qtek s200:
1) Topram 150X:
*Works ok till 2GB but data written beyond 2GB can not read back.
*Surprisingly there's no error after chkdsk, xp-scan.
*No error when writing beyond 2GB but data is not really written.
*Original content of the sectors do not change at all.
*Deep analysis under WinHex states defect starting at sector #3964927 of about 8 million sectors.
* FAT16 and FAT32 all formatting combinations possible on Qtek as well as XP which is surprising. No error using Panasonic SD Formatter as well. This card doest not react to any write operation, even if it fails !!!
SOLUTION: Created a 2GB partition using WM5torage + XP and bypass defected area.
2) SOHO 150X:
*Looks horrible with 5th class sticker misaligned.
*Comes with 90MB of defected sectors already marked bad in FAT.
*Healty reformatting impossible.
*All sectors beyond 1GB are unreadable & unwritable.
SOLUTION: Sent it back to the seller.
QUESTION TO ALL POSTS CLAIMING TRANSCEND & A-DATA WORKS WITH NO PROBLEM:
Of course the 4GB SD's are recognized well when insterted in Prophet. But did you go beyond 2GB and up to 4GB? I strongly need someone who would confirm having written full 4GB and able to read it back with no data loss !!!
I think just inserting the card and seeing 3800MB something free means NOTHING and you should load the card completely without no data loss to be sure everything is OK.
Many posts claim problem with camera not saving to card. No sense anymore, it's not related to the cards but the cam.app as the free space calculation issue is well known now.
Waiting for some good news about Trancend and A-Data which i want to try asap...

SHHC not compatible with Prophet
Not yet tried but given all the information on various sources, Prophet has no chance to recognize any SDHC card. When inserted we will probably won't see anything. Like a RAW card.
The most logical explanation is that the CSD layer of SD2.0 is organized diffently than SD1.1.
Didn't see yet any opportunity to use them with a future ROM update. The hardware limitations of the reader on prophet may be the cause.

g3k said:
Hello guys,
Here's my experience with 4GB SD card dilemma using a Qtek s200:
1) Topram 150X:
*Works ok till 2GB but data written beyond 2GB can not read back.
*Surprisingly there's no error after chkdsk, xp-scan.
*No error when writing beyond 2GB but data is not really written.
*Original content of the sectors do not change at all.
*Deep analysis under WinHex states defect starting at sector #3964927 of about 8 million sectors.
* FAT16 and FAT32 all formatting combinations possible on Qtek as well as XP which is surprising. No error using Panasonic SD Formatter as well. This card doest not react to any write operation, even if it fails !!!
SOLUTION: Created a 2GB partition using WM5torage + XP and bypass defected area.
2) SOHO 150X:
*Looks horrible with 5th class sticker misaligned.
*Comes with 90MB of defected sectors already marked bad in FAT.
*Healty reformatting impossible.
*All sectors beyond 1GB are unreadable & unwritable.
SOLUTION: Sent it back to the seller.
QUESTION TO ALL POSTS CLAIMING TRANSCEND & A-DATA WORKS WITH NO PROBLEM:
Of course the 4GB SD's are recognized well when insterted in Prophet. But did you go beyond 2GB and up to 4GB? I strongly need someone who would confirm having written full 4GB and able to read it back with no data loss !!!
I think just inserting the card and seeing 3800MB something free means NOTHING and you should load the card completely without no data loss to be sure everything is OK.
Many posts claim problem with camera not saving to card. No sense anymore, it's not related to the cards but the cam.app as the free space calculation issue is well known now.
Waiting for some good news about Trancend and A-Data which i want to try asap...
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Friend. I have been using the Transcend 4gb 150X with my prophet for almost a year and let me tell you that baby is full!!! I have my GPS maps, a few videos, some big apps, and the rest filled with as much music as I can cram into the thing. It works without any problems at all, I also specify images to be saved directly to the card with no problems. I am not the only one that has reported compatibility with the Transcend.

g3k said:
QUESTION TO ALL POSTS CLAIMING TRANSCEND & A-DATA WORKS WITH NO PROBLEM:
Of course the 4GB SD's are recognized well when insterted in Prophet. But did you go beyond 2GB and up to 4GB? I strongly need someone who would confirm having written full 4GB and able to read it back with no data loss !!!
I think just inserting the card and seeing 3800MB something free means NOTHING and you should load the card completely without no data loss to be sure everything is OK.
Many posts claim problem with camera not saving to card. No sense anymore, it's not related to the cards but the cam.app as the free space calculation issue is well known now.
Waiting for some good news about Trancend and A-Data which i want to try asap...
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I'm using 4go SD card for more than a month... it is almost full and no problem with any kind of data...
So, it work perfectly.
For those than can't save photos on SD card, this has nothing to do with the SD card format. It depends on if you've unlocked Ext rom or not. It depends also of the rom you've installed on your prophet, some home cooked rom than have native unlocked ext rom will show the same issue.

4GB SD cards on Prophet
Thanks matterhorn for making it more precise. It's very nice to hear such clear feedback.
...and Cedric, are you also talking'bout a Transcend?
I guess you both use your cards on the PC using regular card readers. 2GB and FAT32 compatibility should be enough o cope with 4GB. If the card is healty, i see no reason why a recent, non-SDHC reader would not work with 4GB SD.
I also guess you didn't have any problem using full capacity after re-formatting. Reformatting should not be a problem for a good 4GB card to become bad.
I think i'll give another try with Transcend which is a reliable company and registered to sdcard.org while SOHO and TOPRAM are not. In my language, we call them MANUFACTURERS WORKING UNDER THE STAIRS.

g3k said:
Thanks matterhorn for making it more precise. It's very nice to hear such clear feedback.
...and Cedric, are you also talking'bout a Transcend?
I guess you both use your cards on the PC using regular card readers. 2GB and FAT32 compatibility should be enough o cope with 4GB. If the card is healty, i see no reason why a recent, non-SDHC reader would not work with 4GB SD.
I also guess you didn't have any problem using full capacity after re-formatting. Reformatting should not be a problem for a good 4GB card to become bad.
I think i'll give another try with Transcend which is a reliable company and registered to sdcard.org while SOHO and TOPRAM are not. In my language, we call them MANUFACTURERS WORKING UNDER THE STAIRS.
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I use an normal SD card reader to format my card in FAT32 using XP every time I change my ROM, just to make sure there are no hidden nasties to cause problems. Newegg.com has good prices on the Transcend .
Also that tip about the unlocked extended ROM is a good one. When you can have 4gb, who cares about a few megabytes.

So can I assume to confirm the usability of a 4 GB card on my Neo -
If I slide in the 4 GB Card and it shows full memory (4 GB) as available in Memory Status --> Storage Card - that would imply that the full card is (read/write) compatible in the device?
Matterhorn, is your working 4 GB card SDHC 2.0 format ?
Practically, at best I would have only about a couple of minutes to test the 4 GB card at the store where I buy.

MDA Vario /Qtek 9100 and 4GB?

Anybody know if This PDA can support 4GB miniSD?
Thanks.

The Wizard is miniSD compatible. miniSD is derived of the SD specification that support up to 2GB memory cards. 4GB cards are SDHC compatible derived of the SDHC specification. For this reason 4GB memory cards are not compatible with the wizard neither with TyTN. I don't know any 4GB miniSD card from any fame manufacturer.
More information on this link from SanDisk:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

Thanks maca2406.
But, did you try?
Anybody try it and don't work?
Thanks

ive got a 4gb sd card working with mine..i got it as a present so im not sure where it's from since it hasnt got a name on it..but it does work..

Hello EgemenBor,
Not 4GB SD but 4GB miniSD card on a MDA Vario (or Wizard, Qtek 9100, Imate K-Jam), right?
Thanks

Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).

From that SanDisk article:
2. Look for SDHC logo on card and packaging itself
a. GB SD cards without SDHC logo are non-compliant with the SDA 2.00
specification.
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Notice, they say "non-compliant" and NOT "non-existent." They are obviously cow-towing to device manufacturers here, plus expecting us to foot the bill!
The problems I've heard of with these cards are:
1.) They don't last as long. (Neither did 3.5" Low-Density Floppy Disks when formatted as High-Density, but I've still got a few originals hanging around that work....) It would be great to know what proccess they were using to create these drives as opposed to the 2GB ones....
2.) The card may need to be repartitioned into 2-2GB drives. (See this thread)
please remember that just because it doesn't meet the new standard, doesn't mean it doesn't work with the older standard-devices
I, for one, am grateful there are vendors serving this sub-market, even though the major players are moving on!

Thanks Blazoner.
Anybody have a miniSD 4GB card on a Wizard, that works well?
Thanks

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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I have 2 mobymemory cards 2gb and 1 gb both work v well - if mobymemory say this 4gb card will work i trust them - i will most likely get one!
I have said all along that i think a 4gb mini-sd card will work in the wizard as a 4gb sd card works in a prophet and they really have v similar roms. 4gb even works in a magician and that has an even older rom.

I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.

maca2406 said:
I base myself on what SanDisk says in this link in red:
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8040)-T-Mobile-MDA_Vario.aspx
T-Mobile MDA Vario
(Mobile Phones)
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
Please check with your device manufacturer for details.
Also, SanDisk doesn't manufacture 4GB minisd cards. I have learned to pay attention to what SanDisk says
It would be necessary to check if to use more than 2gb works ok with the Wizard with this 4gb minisd card. Unfortunately I am in America and I don't have access to mobymemory devices.
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I will let you know if it works when i get one

maca2406 said:
Nope, but maybe a generic product works, look this link:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
I don't trust on non branded products then I can not respond your question. but is important to know that neighter fame manufacturer has 4GB miniSD cards for sale (ex. SanDisk, Kingston, etc).
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They claim it will work:
Mobile Compatibility List: New!QTEK 9100
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Anyone any experience with these cards?

I just buy one miniSD 4GB from Transcend (55€!)... I will check and post...

turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?

EgemenBor said:
turns out I have the 4gb memory card from mobymemory...last couple of days its been giving me a lot of hassle..asking me to format it which I did twice and now its stopped working the phone just does red the card...I've emailed mobymemory 5 minutes ago lets see what they reply with..anybody else have the problem of the phone not 'seeing' the memory card?
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How long did it work ok? try formatting it on the device using sktools or storage tools

Take a look at this thread. It describes this problem and it's solutions in detail. Just read miniSD instead of SD.
Remember, it can still be compatible with the current standard, even if it doesn't comply with the new standard.
If all Fords are cars, does that mean all cars are Fords?
If all miniHDSC cards are 4GB or larger, does that mean all 4GB or larger memory cards are miniHDSC cards?
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Hi,
I receive my new miniSD 4GB card... but my Wizard don't recognize it!
Is a new SDHC and even my laptop with a pcmcia reader card (old) don't recognize too! But I think card is OK because with my Sanyo Xacti C6 work well!
What can I do? Can I make 2x 2GB partitions FAT 16... maybe Wizard work?
Thanks

well my phone isn't reading the memory card and when I try to access it via a card reader on my pc nothing happens...just gets stuck..could it be that the card is dead?
I've had the problem for the past week or so...the card in general was really slow I.e. uplaoding files and accessing the card on my pc would take a while..

I try format miniSDHC 4GB card with 2 partitions 2GB FAT16 but Wizard don't recognize it! Even my old pcmcia card reader can't "see" it! At laptop only work with a card reader that works with SDHC!
Any Help?
Thanks

By this experience, I think Wizard can't read any miniSDHC card unless HTC make a firmware update (will do sometime?) to support this new standard SDHC!
Anybody have better good news?
But, I can't understand why Qtek 9000 and S200 can read SD 4GB, like some persons report it!!!
Thanks

8Gig SDHC cards do NOT work in the Prophet

Not that I think the above is really that surprising, but I bought a 8gig SDHC card for my camera (which IS SDHC compliant) and tried the card in the Prophet and it did not work/read/attempt to format etc... it did NOTHING with it...
So for those wondering/searching NO -- it doesn't work :-(

sdhc in registry
surprisingly though there is a key in the registry under drivers named sdhc. Maybe it means something else.

Oh good. One less thing to spend my money on

The "sdhc" in Windows Mobile stands for "SDIO Host Controller". So, nope, it's not SDHC we want.

SDHC is in the registry
HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->SDHC
I would believe that if the SDHC.dll is updated to SD 2.0, our device would be working with the 8GB SDHC card.
Has M$ updated that driver yet?
[Treo 680 works with 8GB SDHC. When that driver (Palm OS) is copied to Treo 700p, that makes the device work with 8GB too.]

There might be two hurdles sdhc.dll (MS) and omap850_sdhc.dll (HTC/TI). So even if MS updates WM to support SDHC cards, I think the hardware driver must be updated too.

8 gb-> four 2 gb?
JamesManios said:
Not that I think the above is really that surprising, but I bought a 8gig SDHC card for my camera (which IS SDHC compliant) and tried the card in the Prophet and it did not work/read/attempt to format etc... it did NOTHING with it...
So for those wondering/searching NO -- it doesn't work :-(
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How about formating the card in the PC and splitting into four 2 gb partitions? Try that, may be that would work. You can also try few different media cards software to create the right partitions. just google it for the software.
Hope it works for you.
Best Regards,

Partitioning would probably not remedy SDHC issue
It's possible to partition a SDHC card into 2GBx4 or 4GBx2 but it would not change anything because the CSD (card specific data) is different on SDHC cards and the device should be able to interpret it before recognizing the partitions.
The prohet is incompatible with SDHC it can not read its CSD. The CSD is outside user accessible area and this is the device driver that reads it to understand what is the capacity, manufacturer ID and serial number of the card.
I suggest to never buy SDHC cards for prophet and use standard 4GB Transcend or Ridata cards.
Do not buy any 4GB SD card of brands not registered to sdcard.org and avoid fake Sandisk's as well.

makes sence.. my idea wasn't thought trough..

one question, is posible install anything drive o parth ?..
I have 1 sd 4gb Transcend 150x and i have more and more problem..
Please help me
Actualy i have 2 part 2 gb..

spoolk said:
one question, is posible install anything drive o parth ?..
I have 1 sd 4gb Transcend 150x and i have more and more problem..
Please help me
Actualy i have 2 part 2 gb..
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Why 2 partitions? I have the Transcend 4gb SD. I formatted it on my PC using XP to one large 4gb drive and it works flawlessly. You might want to copy the data off of it and reformat it.

because , when open aplication from sd, some time the pda is block and i have get out the SD CARD , and get in too , for unblock.
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
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FREE WEB TRANSLATION:
When I open the applications in the SD, the pda shields herself and I have to extract the SD and return to introduce her to unblock.

maximum Micro SD card capacity

Can any one tell me the maximum Micro SD card capacity for p3600?

Hi,
I've heard in a german community, that under wm6 its possible to use up to 8gb microsd cards with an adapter.
MiniSd only work, again under wm6, up to 4gb with some problems sometimes.
Greetz

I am using 4Gb microSDHC and working well.

I'm using a sandisk 8gb micro in a minisd adapter and it works fine after the registry fixes.

sandworm said:
I'm using a sandisk 8gb micro in a minisd adapter and it works fine after the registry fixes.
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can you tell me the registry fix ?

Aqrab said:
can you tell me the registry fix ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324

I have an 8 GB MicroSD mith an adapter look here
I use a WM6 Rom and do not need any fix....

thanks guys for all your reply
i buy adapter for my 4gb micro sd and its works fine

where can u buy an 8gb microSD in the UK, does it come with a miniSD adaptor as well, or just the SD adaptor?
Whats the price?
cheers

4GB sandisk miniSD works with no reg hacks. Been using that for almost a year now.

hi there
there is aproblem which strange did anyone have it
i have p3600
i was have it on wm6
min sd 2g (extreme one)
now i brought kingston micro sdhc 4 g with adeptor to mini
data was on mini 1900mb
transfer data to computer through activ syn become 6g
now rturne it back becom 3.5g
how come?
i now lost the advantige of 4g
whate i have to do to have same 1900 mb
any suggestion

Hi,
Which model and OS do U use? I am to buy card in a while, and try to investigate what capacity my Trinity will tollerate
I've got P3600 with Windows Mobile 6
regards

kordian said:
Hi,
Which model and OS do U use? I am to buy card in a while, and try to investigate what capacity my Trinity will tollerate
I've got P3600 with Windows Mobile 6
regards
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my frind i have menston thate
p3600 /wm6 orginal /4g kingston micro sdhc with mini adeptor

Yep, You got me. My English doesn't exist ;-) But I understand a lot
Thx. So, my next buy is 4GB SDHC by Kingston. Prices are low know, coz $ is so cheap

drs_sa said:
hi there
there is aproblem which strange did anyone have it
i have p3600
i was have it on wm6
min sd 2g (extreme one)
now i brought kingston micro sdhc 4 g with adeptor to mini
data was on mini 1900mb
transfer data to computer through activ syn become 6g
now rturne it back becom 3.5g
how come?
i now lost the advantige of 4g
whate i have to do to have same 1900 mb
any suggestion
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unfortunately that's what it is.
Bigger card, it needs some spared for overhead.
Check on Settings -> Memory -> Storage card and see the total memory size is
Mine is 4GB sandisk, i got 3878.50 MB
with WM6

hi,,, i'm new here
im using htc p3600i.. and i wanna buy new mini sd.. can i use sandisk 4gb???
and its true that i'll get no problm with that card?