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the shortcut that just won't die!

I got this shortcut in my program file called 'interactive'. It seems to be some nonsence marketing junk from Tmobile, and is probably installed via the extended rom.
No matter how many times I delete it, the bloody thing comes back. Questions is, how can I delete it for good, or stop it from recreating itself?
TIA!

mdaexecfan said:
I got this shortcut in my program file called 'interactive'. It seems to be some nonsence marketing junk from Tmobile, and is probably installed via the extended rom.
No matter how many times I delete it, the bloody thing comes back. Questions is, how can I delete it for good, or stop it from recreating itself?
TIA!
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Have a similar problem with Orange - whenever I make a change to the radio mode it reappears!!
Matt

That is installed by your SIM, every time you power up the phone.
Move it, you get a copy, delete it and it comes back.
It is nothing but a PITA and I believe only folder permissions would solve this, or a complete hack of the phone system. Neither are practical on our devices.
This is one of those "more trouble than it is worth" problems, but it sure does make our beautiful menu systems one item short of perfect.

check windows\startup - there's probably a program there that does this. back everything in there then delete all the shortcuts, and start replacing them one by one and doing a reset everytime to see which program is the cuplrit.
I had a similar issue once on my jam and that's what I did

sama said:
check windows\startup - there's probably a program there that does this.
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Nope... got the startup folder empty. I think preditor is correct in assuming it is the SIM.

Moving Mail to Storage Card & Other Mysteries!

Has anyone successfully managed to move the Inbox to the Storage Card yet?
The usual registry hacks that have worked on several previous devices don't seem to be working on the HD2.
It is quite happy to let me move attachments to the Storage Card through Inbox-Options but as soon as I hack the registry to set 'PropertyPath' to move the Inbox and reboot, I end up with a folder in main memory called 'Storage Card' and the actual Storage Card renamed 'Storage Card2'.
If memory serves, this can happen where the card is slow to be mounted, but I'm puzzled why it will happily send attachments to the card and then throw a hissy fit when I ask it to do the same with mail.
Was the issue of the speed of mounting the card ever solved anywhere else? Can't find it if it was!
Any help gratefully received.

Bump...
Has anyone tried moving their Inbox to the Storage Card? Someone must have, surely?
A simple yes it works/no it doesn't would be very helpful - at least I'd know whether it was worth trying to find a solution
Thanks in anticipation

Still keen to know whether anyone has successfully managed to move their mail store to the Storage Card.
Also, has anyone managed to turn off autolock? I don't want to have to enter a pin every time my device wakes. I have tried tweaks and reg hacks and neither seems to give me the behaviour I want/expect
I appreciate that there are differences between Manila and Sense, but surely the underlying registry entries can't be that different? Many of the expected keys exist but they are just ignored by the device - odd.
Or is it just me...?

unfortunately you are right.
I experience the same issues in trying to redirect pictures I shoot to storage card\My Documents\My Pictures.
Like you say there appear to be some differences here and there.
I'm looking but I hope somebody with some more knowledge finds it fast
DicE

Gustopher said:
It is quite happy to let me move attachments to the Storage Card through Inbox-Options
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Hi Gustopher, how and where did you do that? I am unable to find where to tell the HD2 to put attachments on the Storage Card even after days of searching for it, resulting in less and less storage on the device, even when all mail and messages have been removed.
Thanks in advance.
Crazy...
Edit : O.k. just found it . . . . . . duh, what a good night rest can do for ya.

Another week's worth of XDA brains on this since first posting, so worth a revist:
Has anyone managed to get their mail onto the storage card?
The few who have responded so far seem to see the same issues as I did, but is this the case across the board?
If there is indeed a problem, does anyone have any bright ideas how we can fix this?
(Or is everyone too busy saying how much they love/hate the HD2 and how they are going to shag it/return it??)

Hi
Given the small amount of storage memory this is an important issue. I haven't tried it but was going to use Sktools to do it. Will try later. Hope it an be resolved.
Paul

I am pretty sure you won't get any joy through SKTools - I have already responded to someone else who'd tried it and wondered why they had a renamed Storage Card.
I just had a go through Memmaid - I was also looking at the possibility of changing some startup items to give the card a chance to load - but wound up having to hard reset.
It's a bugger, to be sure. I am increasingly convinced that the card is slow to load, but what to do about it...?

I would also like some assistance in getting this resolved. Has anyone been successful here??

here...
Find the Email icon in the main start menu (or it may be in a subfolder depending on your rom). Open it and the 'select an account' screen will open. Hit MENU, OPTIONS, go across to the STORAGE tab and tick the box that says 'When available, use the storage card to store attachments.'
After a loading icon all attachments existing and in the future will be stored on the card. You will notice an increase in available memory on the device immediately.
I assume this is what you meant, if not I don't know the solution!

i have an idea to a solution
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641930

leoni1980 said:
Find the Email icon in the main start menu (or it may be in a subfolder depending on your rom). Open it and the 'select an account' screen will open. Hit MENU, OPTIONS, go across to the STORAGE tab and tick the box that says 'When available, use the storage card to store attachments.'
After a loading icon all attachments existing and in the future will be stored on the card. You will notice an increase in available memory on the device immediately.
I assume this is what you meant, if not I don't know the solution!
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This isn't the preferred method because it creates a folder with an encrypted name. Also, it does not move the mail, just the attachments. But, it's better than nothing.
Generally, I want to save the mail and attachment in my desired path on the SD card.
As the OP stated, all the old methods don't work.

I addressed this problem in this thread, due to the order the hardware starts up after a reset i doubt you will find a solution to this problem without rewriting the email software not to start untill the SDcard has been powered/detected

Volatile Directory - 80MB

Hello Guys,
Today I installed a cab to my phone. Usally I have around 100MB free on my device. But today there where only around 10MB?
I searched around and found a mysterious directory in the Application Data directory called "Volatile" which exactly eats up the missing space...
I said to myself, mhh are you trying to move that directory to storage card and risk a hard-reset? I did it and my device still works.
But I want to know from where this directory "Volatile" came?!
Scilor

the app data\volatile folder is a system temp folder. clearing shouldn't be a problem (unless maybe you clear it before restarting after installing something, perhaps).
You can also reg edit the location to move it to your storage card, at
hklm\system\filesys and change the path.

Thank you, so what exctly it is for?

scilor said:
Thank you, so what exctly it is for?
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its the wm5 and above equivalent of \temp in wm2003. just somewhere the system dumps files, especially when installing and such like. so long as nothing is running when you do, just empty it now and again.

Keep it off!
As for the HD2 - you may NOT delete this folder!
Reason for my frequent hardresetting in the past was deleting this folder - directly or by third party apps to gain storage space.
If you did so - your phone won't be able to recognize soundformats - it won't ring or play anything after deleting this folder!
Cover arts will be skipped very fast, because sense thinks that tracks are played in no time. Very frustrating bug.
Discovered it this morning ... and wanted to share it with the community as none knows about that.

I never had a problem with this, I only deleted the content. But thank you for that info.
So I will now just move the files to my SD card

I emptied it regularly when I was on winmo, never had a problem.

Phone freezes when I navigate to the music tab

Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.

mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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You flashed HSPL, but not a new rom?
I would start by putting just one or two mp3's on your phone's onboard storage, then pulling the card out, soft-resetting, and then seeing if your music tab finds and is able to play those couple of mp3's without locking up.
If it works fine then, you're probably experiencing the same issue many HD2 owners have been dealing with when accessing a large volume of files on the SD card. There's a number of suspected causes, mainly relating to the fact that the music (and documents) tab(s) index the whole contents of the card to find and catalog those types of files for quick use in the tabs. Therefore, a large number of files on the card seem to bog down not just those tabs but often the whole phone.
Another cause is believed to be the fact the factory card shipped with the HD2 is only a class-2 card, the slowest of all the speed ratings. If you have access to a faster card (class-4, -6, etc), even if it's a smaller size card, try that and see if it improves things any. If not, then your only other option right now is to reduce the number of files on your card until it doesn't lock up when sense tries to index it all. It's rumored that there's an update coming shortly from HTC/Tmobile, and I'm hoping that it might address this issue, but I'm not holding my breath.
I personally believe that the code used to do that indexing just isn't able to scale to the volumes of files seen now in the larger SD cards.
EDIT: Also, if you're not using it, be sure to turn off the "recent documents" tab...I don't know that it will clear up the problems with the music tab, but it can possibly help avoid lagging overall.

I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?

mobi said:
I can see what you mean about the indexing. Does it index each time the phone is rebooted or does it store the indexing in cache that's reused?
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I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.

sirphunkee said:
I honestly wish I knew
I've been trying hard to come up with a solution to this issue, and I'm afraid that's one of the unknowns that I'm struggling with...how/when exactly the process is triggered, and whether or not there's any cacheing. I suspect that it indexes (in some form anyway) much more often than every reboot, as you'll see if you delete a music file, and see how quickly the list in the music tab reflects that change.
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Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!

toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Ok cool, thank you! I hadn't heard about that one, so I'll go look for it and see if it gives me any insight. Did you have TF3D (the older version of sense) on your Wing, with a music tab? Maybe this is behavior that HTC added to sense at some point, with the same exact intent in mind...

you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab

jfmckenna said:
you can disable the docindexservice perhaps it will be of some help. I don't use NRG ROM but the cook did put this cab out and you can give it a try, if it doesnt work just simply uninstall it and your settings will be back to normal
Disable Docindexer.cab
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Sweet! Thanks again Jimmy...I'm gonna dig into this when I get home this evening, and poke around in the registry area it changes (HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\HTCService).
I'm curious if it just does the same thing as turning off the documents tab, or if turning off the service is a wider-reaching change. Since this is the personal handiwork of NRG, I'll ping him too, but I know he's busy.

there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948

samsamuel said:
there are a number of possibilities (though i agree its likely to be the indexing)
don't use sync to copy the music, use disk mode, or put the sd in the comp
excessively long path\filename.mp3
extended set ASCII characters in the mp3 tags,,,
i'd copy over a few dozen albums at a time, see if there's a noticeable point which problems start.
also some connected reading here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640948
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Hahaha thanks Sam...I JUST finished reading over the same thread LOL Very helpful, and it's given me some further insights into this.
toreone, the first think I noticed common to your problem and the one in the thread samsamuel posted is that your music has a rather deep file structure (4 layers deep). I haven't seen anybody mention that in the troubleshooting, so it might be worth seeing if the same volume of music, but no more than 2 folders deep, still gives the same issue.
Also, in that thread, sammybusse made and posted the cab below, which makes simple registry change related to chacheing: HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS
EnableChache 1 (changed from 0 to 1). So, perhaps the problem stems from the fact that it wasn't chacheing, rather than doing it too aggressively..
I haven't had a chance yet to poke around with it, but I think it's certainly safe enough to try and see if it makes any difference for you (it helped some people in that thread).
Another solution tried there, that had some level of success, was making sure you don't have any of the mp3's set as "read only"

toreone said:
Sirphunkee..I remember a while back when I first started reading this HD2 forum. Since before I was in the Wing Section. I read somewhere about copying a file to the startup in the windows folder. I cant remember exactly what file it was but it had to do with the music so when you woke the phone up it automatically started queing up the music that way when you went to click on the music tab it was already cached and ready to play?! I have yet to come across that thread again so that I could try it out?!
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Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.

mobi said:
Hi All,
I have a new TMOUS HD2 with the stock rom. I've flashed HSPL and I've added a few tweaks such as landscae mode. Nothing too much for now.
Problem I'm having is that every time I navigate to the music player it seems to hang and I end up getting the "send to M$" notice and phone's locked up. Then I have to restart the phone again.
I have the music stored on my storage card under Music/Artist/Album/Song and I have about 4 gigs worth.
Any ideas to what this could be? Appreciate the help.
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Try to sync your music with Windows Media Player. This worked for me.

Nibbley15 said:
Here it is:
Go to your Windows folder and find the file "AudioManager_Eng.exe" Create a shortcut (.lnk file) of this file and put it in your Windows\StartUp folder.
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Nibbley, when I did this, for some reason the file would only be renamed as AudioManager_Eng.lnk.exe. And once you do it, you can't seem to delete the file. Just a heads up.

do you have a more detailed way for doing this?

mobi said:
do you have a more detailed way for doing this?
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Here you go I created a shortcut and made a cab to put it in start up. Let me know how it works

MR2 Update bugs, fixes, mods etc.

This thread is for those of you who have already got the MR2 update and would like to report any bugs, features etc. This thread will make it easier to follow up and find any similarities. Also to find fixes faster then digging through different threads.
Please DO NOT post "Oh I haven't gotten this patch yet","WTF it's not up yet","Installing it now" etc...
Please post anything you have noticed or would like to share about MR2 here.
I have the Swedish version of MR2, these are my observations.
(1) I noticed as well that when the device is waking up, the SD Card takes a second or 2 to show up. I am sure this has to do with power management. Now this causes a slight delay when you wake up the device and can be annoying if you are like me and want "Instant response". I stated already in another thread that I had applied the "SD Card Fix" that was created for MR1. Now there is no delay and thats the way I like it, the power consumption difference is not noticeable, so I am not concerned at all that it might use 0.0..something milliamps more power. Take note, that I did not suffer memory card missing or sudden data loss problems. It just took a while for the card to pop up after start up.
(2) The GPS problem with TomTom remains, I still need GPS Gate in order to use TomTom.
FIXED! See here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6494250&postcount=14
(3) The G Sensor problem remains, I cannot use any other apps apart from SE's that work with the G Sensor, very annoying!!!
This Java -> "Water Level" app works, so maybe some other ones might. But even that one is SE's. I will check more into it later.
(4) Visual LED notifications don't seem to turn on until you wake up the device, the audio alerts are instant though.
I will update as I find more, otherwise everything else(I have tested) on this device is faster now, including SMS typing via keyboard.
CAB for SD Card fix -> http://rapidshare.com/files/389695879/X2_SDFix.cab
EDIT:
Please note! I will no longer be working on trying to fix any bugs on the X2.
I'm sending it back and getting an X10 instead, so my efforts will shift over to Android now.
Perhaps down the road when they come up with a better OS or something, I will buy another X2. Until then, I hope others who have been helping out now will continue to do so.

Thanks for the clarification that the notification LED problem has still not been fixed. I'm afriad it might be time for me to say goodbye to my X2 as this was one of the reasons why I bought the device and if they still haven't fixed it now, it is unlikely they are ever going to.

bob2k4 said:
Thanks for the clarification that the notification LED problem has still not been fixed. I'm afriad it might be time for me to say goodbye to my X2 as this was one of the reasons why I bought the device and if they still haven't fixed it now, it is unlikely they are ever going to.
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I am sure there are more updates or fixes on the way.
Besides that, not many devices offer LED notification anyways.
Today was the first day my X2 has run superbly, I have not needed to install "Advanced Config Tool" or "SK Tools". No Stalls, no sluggish behaviour. Good battery life... I think it's on it's way to perfection. Now we only need HardSPL

im also dissapointed that theyve not bothered to fix the LED notifications. was one of the main reasons i stuck with SE. most SE phones have LED notification (which work), an immensly useful but simple feature. it worked fine on the X1. seems to be another casualty of their over zealous power management. the phone doesnt wake up when a text is received like the X1 used to. im sure someone clever can get the X2 behave as it should do either, their must be something in the registry that can be modified like the SD card fix..

^^ Yep, I am sure we can tweak this bad boy somehow...
But meanwhile.
To enable "Auto rotation"
Edit the following Registry Key. YOU WILL NEED A REGISTRY EDITOR! If you don't know what it is, don't bother with this! Just move along...
HKLM\Services\MultiService\mods\Rotation\AccelBasedRotationEnabled
Change value to "1"
This will help with many things including this -> TomTom!
To enable TomTom Rotation, go further down to AADRClients
(1) Add "New Key" Call it TomTom or whatever.
(2) In that key add new "String Value"
(3) Value name "ModuleFileName"
Value Data "\Storage Card\Program\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe"
(You will need to check your folders are the same, edit the text accordingly)
(4) Make sure it saved.
(5) Reboot device
(6) Start TomTom when it's loaded rotate your device left, viola!

mtechfan said:
^^ Yep, I am sure we can tweak this bad boy somehow...
But meanwhile.
To enable "Auto rotation"
Edit the following Registry Key.
HKLM\Services\MultiService\mods\Rotation\AccelBasedRotationEnabled
Change value to "1"
This will help with many things including this -> TomTom!
To enable TomTom Rotation, go further down to AADRClients
(1) Add "New Key" Call it TomTom or whatever.
(2) In that key add new "String Value"
(3) Value name "ModuleFileName"
Value Data "\Storage Card\Program\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe"
(You will need to check your folders are the same, edit the text accordingly)
(4) Make sure it saved.
(5) Reboot device
(6) Start TomTom when it's loaded rotate your device left, viola!
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Where do i fink HKLM ive been busting my braines to find it

oubsty said:
where do i fink hklm ive been busting my braines to find it
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hklm = hkey_local_machine

after the install of MR2 all the data on my mammory card got corrupted. Not right away but couple of hours later. I have Generik_UK. Then i formated the card. installed the SDfix (its on this forum somewhere -> search) but i think its not everithing as it should be. the data did not get corrupred again but the micro SD sometimes is not visible in the file manager.
I also had some problems with total freezing of the phone (two times in 2 days time). that only happened when i was doing heavy usage on the camera and the picture viewing I guess the RAM got full ar something. then i deleted all the panells and the panelmanager to save some RAM. Ill let you know if it helps.

gbajzelj said:
after the install of MR2 all the data on my mammory card got corrupted. Not right away but couple of hours later. I have Generik_UK. Then i formated the card. installed the SDfix (its on this forum somewhere -> search) but i think its not everithing as it should be. the data did not get corrupred again but the micro SD sometimes is not visible in the file manager.
I also had some problems with total freezing of the phone (two times in 2 days time). that only happened when i was doing heavy usage on the camera and the picture viewing I guess the RAM got full ar something. then i deleted all the panells and the panelmanager to save some RAM. Ill let you know if it helps.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mine is still running really well, really really well. No memory card issues or sluggishness so far. I hope it stays that way.

oubsty said:
Where do i fink HKLM ive been busting my braines to find it
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You also need to use a Registry Editor to do what mtechfan has recommended.

laurence0609 said:
You also need to use a Registry Editor to do what mtechfan has recommended.
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Yep, I guess I should have mentioned that

instead of hardSPL to flash custom roms has anyone tried to hack the sony update program?? if it could be fooled into thinking the custom firmware is the latest firmware then get it to install it onto the phone...

For those of you not in the KNOW.
TomTom will work without installing GPSGate.
On the X2 – go to Settings/System/External GPS and change GDP9 TO COM8.
Run FASTGPS and download the latest Sat Data.
Open TomTom and change the GPS Device from Built in GPS receiver to Other NMEA GPS receiver and select COM8.
Wait a few secons for the Receiver to kick in and away you go.....

ok,can some one to test video mode,record some video and see what is the frame rate in new MR2,is it still low? or is it better then 15fps

gbajzelj said:
after the install of MR2 all the data on my mammory card got corrupted. Not right away but couple of hours later. I have Generik_UK. Then i formated the card. installed the SDfix (its on this forum somewhere -> search) but i think its not everithing as it should be. the data did not get corrupred again but the micro SD sometimes is not visible in the file manager.
I also had some problems with total freezing of the phone (two times in 2 days time). that only happened when i was doing heavy usage on the camera and the picture viewing I guess the RAM got full ar something. then i deleted all the panels and the panelmanager to save some RAM. Ill let you know if it helps.
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I guess you look for Storage Card in File Explorer? What I have seen is that because of the card delay mentioned earlier the card appears at the bottom of the folders/files list and not among the folders in alphabetic order, at least on my device. Can be worth a look even though you applied the card fix and i haven't.

Two flaws:
1.
Auto lock on, display blacked out
Listening to music via slideview
Phone rings (technically speaking)
The phone vibrates and perhaps play half ringtone or just not at all.
Without the music listening the phone rings as it should, using generic ringtone so far so no storage card error here I suppose.
2.
Listening to music via slideview. Songs stored at Storage card.
Media player plays one, two, three songs and halts in the middle of a song.
Going to try a different media player to see what happens. I have not installed any yet because my favourite player, Pocket Player appears to have some compatibility issues with winmo 6.5. I know of the memcard fix and will eventually try that as well.
Was thinking of a new thread, quite the opposite of this. A "what programs works on X2 MR2". haven't installed that much yet, perhaps someone else can start

SE contact reading chinese?
Can anyone confirm if the SE contacts (not the WinMo) in MR2 can read Chinese (after installing either new fonts or localization)?
Thanks!

so i changed from GENERIC_SG to GENERIC_UK, rather time consuming but worth it IMO, but down to the nitty gritty details.
I'm still in the process of personalising it (adding my ring tones, loading old sms's etc) but from first few things i've done the speed between screens is quite phenominal
Also by accident i just found that you can move icons around ALOT easier, . BIG bonus as it doesn't mean i have to scroll all the way to the botom to find my new apps. - to do this just press down on the icon (using stylus or finger) and move it to were ever you want it.
more feedback to follow

I think this thread lost its and the thread starters intentions long ago. Its sad since it could have been a great resource. Some moderation would be apritiated.
Thanks, A.D