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Without going through every application how can I setup the connection options to only automatically connect when wifi is available or when docked. Idealy I would like to be prompted to connect via GPRS or 3g network? Any reg hacks on this one?
Regards
Eric
GPRS connection disable or prompt
hi, I'm having the same issue as above...would like to connect to GPRS manually only.
anyone !??!
me to, i am only on a limited plan for gprs/3g and the costs are quite high 2c p kb.
i use wifi at home a lot, so usually not a problem, but dodgy activesyncs to exchange server, or accidentally opening IE auto connects 3g gprs without prompting.
Any hacks, or software that anybody knows about.
I also need this, i ran my bill up without knowing/wanting to
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accidentally opening IE auto connects 3g gprs without prompting.
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I have changed my default IE page to "about:blank" - at least it means that IE doesn't go off trying to load a page by default that I'm most likely not interested in, but it also prevents it from connecting GPRS/3G should you start it by accident.
Cheers,
Steve.
Has anyone had any luck with this? I also am on an expensive tariff and unwanted connections prove costly. I have not yet found the answer, but will keep you all posted if I stumble across a setting/hack.
Would also like some tips on this, dont know whats dialling up 3g, but everytime i looked at my phone it was bloody connected grrrr.
Im also intressted, i need like a on/off button for the gprs. My damn egress updates my blogs/rss streams all the time. I have disable autoupdate in egress but it still wants to update sometimes :/
I've found nothing yet and have resorted to removing my GPRS settings until sorted.
I will crack open C# and attempt my first PDA utility - with the aim being to prevent GPRS/GSM from connecting unless something is manually toggled. Wish me luck
dudes, this has been posted a few times already
it's a part of the t-mob ext rom.
enjoy
joe
joebongo said:
dudes, this has been posted a few times already
it's a part of the t-mob ext rom.
enjoy
joe
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What does this cab file do exactly? Does it give you an option to manualy connect or does it turn GPRS off completely? Plus where can we find the option to turn it ON if we can?
One more thing please, can I install this cab file on my O2 XDA Exec without any conflicts since it was made for T-Mobile?
I am not 110% but I believe it appears in a number of carrier ext roms, and just stops GPRS from being attached all the time (like an idle disconnect perhaps?)
When you want GPRS, then you can connect by starting the application you want (ie : Internet Explorer) and GPRS kicks in.
Hope it helps.
Joe
couldnt find it in mine, using the imate jj.
will install and see what happens....
using vijay's method http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37963
you still get the msg that it is trying to connect and eventually an error msg, but better than a big phone bill
Hi guys !
I've installed the .cab on my 9000 and G icon is now disappeared
In the future will be possible to uninstall the .cab and restore the icon ?
Thanks :wink:
Is there an app available that will allow me to diable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.
Anyone ?
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Anyone ?
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Maybe you did not get an anwer because you posted it in friday the 13th
But I want the same.
I am going abroad later this month, and I don't want any program to connect via GPRS.
It just costs too much.
So does anyone have a solution to disable connection by GPRS?
Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
knowsleyroader said:
Is there an app available that will allow me to disable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.
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Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
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I think you are mistaking the question.
If you press the Call End button for a few seconds, it indeed will end the GPRS session.
For that moment.
But if an application want to connect, it reconnects with GPRS just that easily.
And that's what you are afraid of, when roaming.
I really want to control the GPRS connection, off or on.
I use SPB GPRS Monitor. It adds a Icon to the menu bar at the top. You just tap on it, tap connect, and there you go. You can disconnect also. The program is skinnable as well! Moreover, it monitors your GPRS usage so you know when Vodafone is over charging you
cya
I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.
i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!
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I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.
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Oh, okay....no clue in that case
The best way would be not to save the password to the connection, so it asks for it each time. That will stop it connecting, but it is inconvenient
Hope that helps
funman said:
i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!
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Hmm, this is no fun-man.
I ask a normal question, so please give a normal answer.
I have pushmail, newsreader, weatherpanel, Messenger and maybe some more progs who connect automatically over GPRS.
In holland that's no problem because I have a flat fee abo.
But when I go abroad I have to disable each and every application by hand.
(Roaming GPRS is sooo expensive )
So this device is definately not too high tech for me, but I am looking for an easy solution and that's to control GPRS by hand.
One program does it all for you:
Vijay555's VJVolubilis program!
Google search for Vijay555. Go to Releases. He's got a bunch of software written by him (a BIG THANK YOU to Vijay - Viva la ViJay!)
Instructions:
- Install cab file.
- Create a shortcut (using Ilauncher or any other programs that allows you to) and change the properties to wot you need
- In your case, use the properties - -gprson or -gprsoff or -gprstoggle
- You can set one icon to turn GPRS on and one to turn GPRS off in case you're worried about toggling it on instead of off.
Works great for me.
And don't forget to donate to Vijay!
Hope that helps.
Thanx, that's really looking promising.
It seems exactly what I was looking for.
I will test this prog asap.
i have been looking for a prog like this so I do not get price raped when my gprs drops out...I will test it out thanks.
Hiya,
Noob here - please be gentle
Have been borwsing the site for a few days and still haven't found a definitive answer to this:
I have uninstalled the o2 bloat, but still want to be able to access o2's wap stuff (for train times, etc)
When I am at home and connected to wifi I want to use that, but when I'm out on the road I want to use GPRS. I have read somewhere that you can set up wifi to be the first port of call, and if that's not available then use GPRS. Any ideas? C'mon - you're clever!
Thanks
nevermind...I figured it out.
darrenjhopkins said:
nevermind...I figured it out.
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Can u tell me then
please...
I'm in the same situation. I have a wireless network at home and when it ppolls for new emails or i occassionally use the internet on my phone, i want it to use wifi. then when i'm out if there's no wifi available to then use gprs.
is it a registry tweak??
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
As I said to the person who asked the same question a few days ago *sigh*, google nodata
petez1 said:
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
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You need to check how your phone is connecting.
AFAIK the orange ROM uses the unique manager not the normal HTC connection manager.
This means you dont really have a WiFi connection. Orange unique is their VOIP(??) implementation.
If you have a livebox and orange as your ISP your phone will automatically switch to using your WiFi connection for phone calls saving you money, the downside is you cant use wifi for anything else.
The only way to sort it is buy flashing a different ROM.
Orange Unique ----http://www.business.orange.co.uk/services/broadband/unique-for-business/
Hi
Thanks for the info. Been trying to sort out with Orange and same answer - disable GPRS and the WiFi stops as well !!! (One of the Orange guys even admitted that it was because they don't make money on voice now, only data). The 'nodata' fix doesn't work as it also stops the WiFi. Any thoughts on which ROM I might flash?
Thanks for your help
I'm actually an Orange employee, working for Handset Faults, and looking to solve this for a customer.
There is a rom update available from HTC, which apparently fixes this, however the customer I'm trying to resolve this for, has tried updating and his serial number shows as no available ROM.
I don't think the No-data resolution will work, so hoping if theres any other solutions you guys could suggest?
I know on my current HS, which is a Hermes, I've the communication manager, which i believe isn't available on the Touch 3G, unless debranded.
Really, I'm just trying to get more advice, so would appreciate anyone's tried and tested work-around, as i've to call said customer back tomorrow, with hopefully a resolution, but if not, then he'll have to wait till a ROM update becomes available from HTC/Orange for branded handsets.
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
bobmac892 said:
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
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Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
Thanks Bob,
Will copy this and put it on my phone somehow!
Thank you very much for the advice!
Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Unfortunately, the customer cancelled their upgrade and got another handset before trying this.
Shame really!
Thanks for the help though!
petez1 said:
Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
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Bob/Greee
Still haven't been able to work out the second part of the fix - can you help?
Thanks
I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
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I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
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The GPS will use the satelitte to get a signal (just like proper SatNavs), but if there's an A-GPS feature, it will use a tiny bit of GPRS to speed up the process.
It'll then use the GPRS (if enabled) to download maps for the local area if it there isn't a map already installed on the handset.
That's why it's always a good idea to disable GPRS when roaming, at £8/mb- it's a pricey thing to use.
However, you can normaly download maps using WiFi before you leave (if you know where you'll be going), which will save time and money on using the network for data.
I get asked that question alot too (I work for them too, in NT1- First Impressions)
It will use the GPRS for the GPS locator if you leave A-GPS selected. Fortunately you can disable A-GPS to stop this happening.
Interestingly, I can't find any real difference in the speed of 'finding' satalites between standard GPS and A-GPS.
Thanks for the advice guys.
So any ideas how to fully block GPRS traffic outgoing, unless wanted? So its WIFI only when my customer is at home?
No further movement on this one...
Anyone got any ideas, how to utilise the WIFI facility switching the Unique Phone part off, and blocking GPRS traffic?
Thank you,
NoData works on fone.......BUT
Hi I got my touch 3g couple days ago its on orange contract brilliant fone apart from cannot connect to wifi as you all know it still connects thru gprs so I downloaded Nodata installed on fone disabled gprs with it. So good so far switched on wifi thru unique manager then checked that data connection was still off and it was BRILLIANT I shouted.
My wifi was connected to my hub and data connection was off woo hoo
Started web browser and lo an behold Get the message "cannot connect with current connection settings"
As far as I am led to believe at the present time there is no way round this problem apart from installing a clean version of windows but if I am mistaken please tell me how to get around this problem.
Cheers Biggles
HTC touch Dual An a HTC touch 3G
I have the Touch 3g with Orange - but thanks to the guys on this forum I got rid of the Orange branding/mess by using a 'stock' rom and I am not now using Orange Unique. Then I did the following........but not sure if it works with the Orange Unique stuff.
As far I as I can see there is no explict way of turning GPRS off - if it is set up then it will connect to it when a program requests data. I have unlimited internet on my home network but I need to turn GPRS off when roaming abroad so I don't get charged silly amounts.
I found that the only way I can guarantee to stop the phone using GPRS is to change the name of the Access Point Name - then it cannot connect to the service. On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
At this point GPRS will not work because the Access Point Name is not correct and you will get a message from any program trying to access the internet if wifi is not enabled. To get it to work again just edit the Access Point Name back to what it was. In my case I do not have to switch the phone off/on - I can just change the Access Point Name at anytime and it works or dosn't as I require.
Hope this helps.
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On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
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Hi,
With Orange Unique there isn't any "Manage Existing Connections" that I can find - just addding new modem or VPN? Am I in the right place?
Thanks
for the benefit of people who may be subscribed to this thread, I think I have found a fix for the orange rom using data connection instead of wifi, read on here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4517074&postcount=12
post back to that thread if it works for you!
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
+1 good idea, anyone got anything on this?
Andi,
The solution I would use would be to go to Settings>Wireless Controls and simply switch Data Connections off, Wifi On when at home.
You would have to remember to to reverse this when done if you want to access 3G services.
WB
u could use G-Profile.. It allows you to set up different profiles and switch them automatically based on your current cell id. Wifi on/3G off when at home, other way around when not. Works like a charm for me
thanks for the tip but when I do that it then automatically turns it back on even when I'm connected to the wireless hub, all of a sudden they both are on . . . . . . .?? any ideas ??
i have the same problem... it keeps using my 3G/EDGE network even if WIFI is available... and i dont get it how can HTC afford not to give us an option to set that the phone asks you for permission when connecting to 3G/EDGE network... this **** costs and im not really happy about the fact that my phone can connect to a network whenever it feels like.
(and yes this **** keeps happening even tho i disabled automatic updates in weather/time applications.)
In BSB tweaks if you press options I think there is an option to disable all data connections. I have never tried it but maybe it will override all connection attempt? Give it a try. Also, I flashed to the 2.01 ROM and I think the data connections are a little less persistent, though I don't wan't to guarantee anything!
andi1977dog said:
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
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does it not do that by default? i cant send emails through t-email when i'm at home - I just presumed this was because i was connected through my wireless router. turning off wifi allows me to send emails.
thus I presumed wifi takes preference?
I am wondering the same thing. The idealist situation would be to have both connections active at the same time, and let the HD2 make sure that wifi is used when the connection is there. Is there some kind of application to verify which connection is being used?
Great thread - I am not the only HD2 owner who is annoyed with the problem with the HD2 switching on its GRPS data connection without my approval!!!
Could it be that the HD2 turns off the wifi when it goes to sleep and then tries to connect to the web using the GPRS network? In that case how do I prevent turning off WIFI when in sleepmode?
I read somewhere else in this forum about a G-profile. Being a newbie with HTC I have no idea what this is. Any clue?
But overall: Yes, it would be great if HTC added an option to set network connection preferences.
WiFi does take preference if it's connected! Dont forget when you are at home and you turn your phone on from standby it will take 10sec or so to connect to your WiFi router, if you try and use IE, Opera, Twitter, Weather Update, Email, etc... before it's connected it will fire up your 3G data connection!
The phone does not how ever turn off your data conn when it's idle which is annoying! You need to use Bandswitch or CommManager from here http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf;jsessionid=103F335931311F019BD540B82E479383 or WMLonglife from this forum (do a search).
there must be someone out there with ghe know how and expertise to solve this ?? glad to see its an issue for othet folk, i like the idea for selecting wi fi over gprs if its there to be selected.......
I found out that my HD2 automatically closes the 3G connection when I have wifi active. I'm not sure why it does that, I know pretty sure that it had not always done that. But I'm quite happy with it
It turns 3G on again after disconnecting from WIFI, which is what I want.
so if you tap the notifications tab and the "contratc internet" is counting and the wi fii is connected it is using the wifi and not the "contract internet" even though the timer is counting ???
Can anyone confirm ???
p.s tried using the G-Profile software, it seems very inconsistant and didnt always turn off what it should when you select the profile so im going to unistall it.
for some reason the automatic internet settings from vodafone messes up/hides the "The Internet" or "MyISP" connection that is in the phone originally.. I even hard resetted but you just can't seem to stop the automatic settings..
disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc..
the same with email only checking through 3G and not wifi.. but set the server settings of your account to "The Internet" after you disabled the proxy.. (advanced settings at the smpt server tab)
hope this helps.. but a thing worries me, as I don't know anything about proxies, why does vodafone specify a proxy if we don't realy need one.. to port us over their live portal or something? (on my old sony ericsson the track ID service didn't work because of that)
"disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc.."
thanks but how do i do this ??
anyone know how i do this ? thanks
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
tnyborg said:
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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Sorry, forgot to mention this - but in order to save battery power I have asked the unit to close down the WIFI when in sleepmode (using BsB Tweaks). And indeed it gives me more battery life.