Hi. Recently, I synched my 8125 and noticed that my memory was becoming too low. It was odd since I did not install anything and the memory dropped from 5.5 MB left to nearly zero. I thought it might have been a program I use that updates everyday (Epocrates which is a medication information program). When I reinstalled, the memory hovered at 2.9MB. It may have been the program, but I'm thinking I need to do a hard reset to get some RAM back. Despite a program to clear up useless programs, I am still at 2.9MB.
So my question is does a hard reset require reinstallation of all my programs? When I had my old Palm Clie, I could hard reset the device and the HotSync program would reinstall most of my programs back into the device. Does this happen with WM5 devices or do I have to reinstall all the programs (which would take a long time)?
A hard reset will delete anything you have installed, all settings, etc. You have to reinstall everything. That said...........
Unlike the Palm the PPC has two types of memory, storage and program. Is it storage or program memory that is low? If program, you may just need a soft reset, which will reclaim memory like on a PC. If it is storage memory you may have "junk files" that can be cleaned up. I had a coworker with only 2 meg of program memory left. We cleared about 5 megs out of her IE cache and found an mpg file that was 10 megs.
If you get many email attachments, consider storing them on a SD card rather than main memory (in options)
A hard re-set sets the device to its factory settings, like it just came out of the box new. All programs that were installed will have to be re-installed after a hard re-set, even those stored on your SD card. It sounds to me like you have a program that is using a lot of memory quickly. Before considering a hard re-set, try these programs I've attached. They may be of some help.
I'd bet that Epocrates is the culperit since you said it updates daily. I don't know if since it's a medication information program it's updates build on each other or if it just updates it as a whole each time, but you probably have a whole buch of update files that need to be deleted, if they don't build on each other. Sometimes programs that are supposed to delete the old files don't do it like they should. Check the program folder and see if you can find the old unneeded updates and just delete them manually, leaving the last few if you want just in case.
I just had to do the same thing with my weather panel. I started noticing my phone losing more than a meg's worth of memory every day for a few days and when I checked it's data folder I found almost 50 radar images that were supposed to be being deleted after a few hours but weren't.
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how to make storage big space? although installed in SD memory, storage memory always low.
This could be a result of the number of programs you have running in the background. Check your Running Programs and see if you have lots of unnecessary programs using up your memory.
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This could be a result of the number of programs you have running in the background. Check your Running Programs and see if you have lots of unnecessary programs using up your memory.
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the problem is when ever I installed program, I never installed to phone memory. I only installed into my SD Card.
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the problem is when ever I installed program, I never installed to phone memory. I only installed into my SD Card.
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It doesn't matter where you are installing them; if you have them running in the background they still need memory
Just check your running programs. On a desktop PC when you minimize a program they go into your taskbar, but in Pocket PC they just hide themselves in the background. Its a common misconception that the "x" in the upper right hand corner of the screen closes the program; all it does it minimizes it. Or atleast most of them, some programs a actually very well designed and actually "close". At any case, use the "running programs" utility that came standard with your Magician to see how many programs you have running - it's actually quite amazing what you'll find.
I have a similar problem but mine starts at 20mb free after soft reset but after each sync (disconnect and reconnect) it drops by about 6mb until it reaches 7 or 8mb and stays there until I soft reset again?
I am not aware of any invoked programs that eat up memory when I sync and I have very little data in my sync files folder?
Suggestions welcome (except hard reset!!).
Thanks,
OB.
obarnes, That true. why after soft reset it used more memory. supposed to be free more memory.
Activesync eats up memory everytime you hook it up. That memory does not get freed up. Approx 3MB gets blocked away for every sync you do - so if you start of with 20 and you sync up 3 or 4 times then you're memory will slowly start to dissapear. This is a common occurence, the only thing I could suggest is to soft-reset 2-3 times a day. Additionally there are programs that can eliminate tiny chunks of memory being used up by duplicate processes that occur when you soft-reset your machine, they don't really effect your device; but every byte helps. The program is by Scarybear and it's called notifyclear (or something like that). I've recently did a maintenance on my device and managed to clear up almost 10MB just by moving unnecessary files and clearing up the registry and redundant junk from the machine. Hope this helps.
Obarnes,
The "memory leak" could be due to a program you have installed also. I used to face the problem because of Battery Pack Pro v.2 and havent faced a "memory leak" since I uninstalled it.
What can I delete, or shift to the card?
Pics and music are on it already now.
Thanks in advance
hard reset and don't install stuff on phone unless vital!
That's right.
Hard reset is recommended.
But for now you can uninstall some of your large apps (see your activesync) and then reinstall them, pointing to your SD card.
Wizardragon -- What actually is the problem you are getting?? If you have installed lots of programs on your device rather than the SD Card then of course you will get low memory messages sooner or later - however I am sure you haven't put a post here for something as obvious as that. :wink:
Can you do a SOFT reset and then immediatley go and look and see what memory you have - Both types. Post the results and then we can see what the issue is.
Thanks
The problem was caused by the camera software changing back to storing on the phone and loads of surfing while I was on holiday - but I scrubbed as many programs as I could - cleared the net cache - and copied the (few) pics over- and it is now showing 15M storage and 20M program storage free.
So basically now I'd like an idea if this is about right for free resources?
I have mine around 30Mb for storage and 25Mb for programs. I still have plenty of apps installed but mostly on my storage card.
Do you have any games (apart from the builtin solataire etc) installed in main memory? They can usually take up a least a few meg unless they're basic games with no fancy graphics.
its going OK now - with the exception of the camera software being crap.
I only have the standard games now.
I got my 8125 and have loaded a few programs. Ever since a few days ago I have noticed the phone dial is slow to open when I hit the phone button and almost everytime closing it seems to lock up or hang. I have to wait for it or sometimes it will unfreeze and go to working.
I read where the rom I have is possible a problem or cause. Anyone know about this?
Also is there a free way to unlock the sim/cid to update the rom? I am still looking thru the forums. I will check back soon.
First, you need to read the Wiki to determine if you have a G3 or G4 device.
If you have a G3, then go to this thread to unlock your phone. Then, you can flash any ROM you want.
If you have a G4, then you need to go here and start reading on using the ShellTool to flash your ROM.
As far as the phone freezing, check your Storage Memory. It could be critically low which will result in freezing problems. You might try clearing your internet cache first by opening the brower and tapping Menu > Options > Memory > Delete Files. I've seen others gain over 20mb of storage space just by clearing out their cache. If you have a storage card, you can redirect those internet files to the card by using a registry editor and making the following change in the registry:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache = "\Storage Card\cacheie" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
How does you 8125 run? Does it seem to have any lockups with the setup you have?
None whatsoever. I've done just about all the reg tweaks to move stuff off the phone onto the Storage card that can be done. I only have programs installed to the device itself that have to be installed there. Everything else is run from the storage card.
Even with everything I run, I have over 20mb Storage Memory and around 23mb Program Memory left. I do a soft reset every morning when I pull the phone off the charger when I leave for work to regain any "leaked" memory and my 8125 hums right along.
Check here for some screenshots of my current setup.
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Even with everything I run, I have over 20mb Storage Memory and around 23mb Program Memory left. I do a soft reset every morning when I pull the phone off the charger when I leave for work to regain any "leaked" memory and my 8125 hums right along.
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I agree, soft reset everyday. I though, have everything I use installed to the main memory and still have 18mb and 29mb of each memory free.
The only time I get a temporary freeze is when I shut down WMP.
I did so looking around and I think the problem was the 156 emails I had in my inbox. I believe that might have been causing some issues in slowdowns. I deleted all them and today no lockups at all.
DW
I have most programs installed on a card, and all 'my documents' on the card too, and yet my storage memory is down to 6.5mb and program memory is down to 15.5mb and the machine is a bit slow.
I've run SK Tools and cleared the internet caches, and this can get back a couple of mb, but not much memory is reclaimed.
A quick browse of the files does not show up anything obvious, or any large files which look like they can be deleted.
Does anyone know if there are any guides as to what files can be safely removed?
Also is it correct that even when files are installed on a card, then some files are still added to the main memory - and so the more programs installed the more main memory is taken up in any case?
I wonder how my memory has gone down, when I am very careful not to use it up?
I do have quite a few programs on the card though
Same problem
Hi, I also have the same issue. I save all my .cabs onto the storage card, yet when I use IE or TomTom I go to the memory and it slowly goes up until it maxes out at 62mb? Is TomTom or IE the issue here? I save nearly everything to my storage card and t makes no sense that it just gets used up so quickly. I have looked at programs like pocket mechanic and Memaid...Has anyone tried any of these programs and do they free up main storage memory... Is this a ROM issue...I use mUn TE. Thanks!
use Oxios Hibernate
I tend to use Tillanosoft Spacefinder to sort folders/files into size order, and see which are the biggest hogs.
Basic version is free, and the paid version adds very little, to not worth buying!
Some programs will put stuff into main memory- dll's, logs and settings etc. Usually the main culprit is Pocket IE Caches, but if you have cleared those, it ought to be OK.
TomTom, even when asked to install to a card, will place the application and voice files in main memory (= 5MB) but these can be manually copied back to the card, and the Programs link edited accordingly.
A large number of emails, calendar or contacts will also grab memory, especially if you store attachments. Don't delete the holding files though or you'll lose everything!
Wolfy: TomTom doesn't incrementally use memory, but IE does because of its cache. Go to PIE, MEnu/Options/Memory and Delete Files- see how much memory you get back! Memmaid and SK Tools do a good job in housekeeping these items.
If you add/remove a lot of applications, you may find your Application Data folder taking up a fair amount of memory- it holds dll's for safe removal of the apps, but some can be a few hundred KB. I've removed these in the past with no adverse effect, but maybe I've been lucky!
The number one thing I need to do here is thank the xda dev Herald forum, and a lot of the people who have contributed. I learned a lot of valuable information in the last 48 hours of immersing myself here trying to fix my Wing.
However, I'm at my ropes end, and can't figure out what to do.
I've had my Wing for a 5 weeks. Took some getting used to (had a couple of Dash's before that) but the phone had potential. I had installed a single game (Soduku) and was on my way.
Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I start getting a message I'm sure you all are familiar with:
*Storage Memory - Your phone is running low on free storage space. Delete old or unused items to create more space.*
Now, after years of using the Dash, getting such a message after only 5 weeks seemed incredible. I went through the cleaned Temp Internet files, MMS messages, and whotnot, to no avail. After about three days it just went away on its own.
This brings us to three days ago. My phone just starts locking up on its own. I go from never having soft reset it before to having to do so almost a dozen times in 2 hours. This is when I start my search online for solutions. I find this place. I start learning about ROMs, RUUs, SPLs, registry tweaks, .cabs, some of this stuff I knew about from my Dash, some of it new.
Two days ago that Storage Memory message came back. Followed by a new one:
*Storage Memory - Storage memory is critically low. If the storage memory is not increased, other programs may not be able to start. Use File Explorer to delete files that are no longer needed or move some files to a storage card. *
I redouble my efforts. Throw Battery Status on there, and DL the files for the Page Pool change. This did not work, as I can't run .cabs or .dll files from my phone. I don't know if this is a PPC specific thing, but that's how I always installed stuff on my Dash; just run the .cab from File Explorer.
However, on this phone, when I try that, I get:
* itsutils.dll - There is no application associated with "itsutils". Run the application first, then open the file from within the application *
Same thing with .cab files.
This brings us to today. I can soft reset the phone and I get a Storage Memory message before the phone even finished loading the home screen. I can't go 90 seconds without getting a Storage Memory message. I deleted the one program I had installed (from the storage card), changed the registry to save Temp Internet Files to the Storage Card, nothing.
My Memory is:
Storage TOTAL 31.44 MB IN USE 31.44 MB FREE 0.0MB
Program TOTAL 47.89 MB IN USE 35.36 MB FREE 12.53 MB
I can no longer do anything useful on this phone. Text messages won't send. Half of my programs don't open. I can receiver calls but not make them. I went into the Remove Programs part of the Settings; that window is blank, and where is says Total storage memory available, its also blank. All T-Mo tech support can do is tell me to hard reset the phone.
I went through and deleted all of my text messages (about 2400 total), with absolutely NO CHANGE in memory. Every time I touch my phone, I get a Storage Memory message, unless one has already popped up on its own. Sometimes they stack on each other, too.
The only thing on this phone are my contacts, and Battery Status.
I'm about at the end of my patience here. My blood pressure has gone up 15 points in the last three days, and I forsee this phone getting very familiar with my 21" ASP followed by some Zippo fluid, in about a day.
Some basic stats:
WM6 Pro
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
ROM 4.26.531.1 WWE
OMAP850 201MHz (clocked to 247)
Model HERA110
IPL 4.26.0002
SPL 4.26.0000
That's all I can think of. I'm going to thank in advance anyone who even reads this, for taking some time out of your day. If you can help me, even better.
Cheers
By what i can read you are probably using a stock rom. considering you are running low on storage space 1st i would recommend use one of the BIGSTORAGE or Light Roms. Most of them have a big storage data and a lower Page Pool and less unnecessary programs. As a Wing user for over a year once i have flashed a custom ROM i have never had a low memory message. Been trying different once and using Open Touch 7.7 now. Not much of Storage Memory but i have a 4Gig memory card so i dont rly need it.
Also its a good practice to use the task manager to shut down programs if u run low on Program memory.
Thats about what i can think of for now.
Believe me, the Wing is a rly good phone.
Edit: Here are some Higher Storage Roms that i have used:
ttran001's Light Roms
ivanmmj's ROMs - 1
ivanmmj's ROMs - 2
Yeah, stock ROM.
I've been trying to DL another, and Hard SPL; every time I do it downloads about 900K and then the DL stops like its complete. But thats a story for another time.
I realized (and cant figure out why) that I can't actually delete any text messages. I delete them, and for whatever reason, I'll have to soft reset the phone, and then they're all back again.
I managed to get into the Remove Programs, and deleted EVERYTHING. Bought myself 2.2MB of Storage memory.
45 mins later, of the phone just sitting on my table, it was gone. Storage Memory is just back at 0.0MB.
I'm about to just hard reset and call it a day.
I'm using "JustMe" Ivan's ROM. A lot software installed. Some softwares in main memory. Because needs install there. But still i have 47,53 MB storage and 15 MB program memory. Thanks Ivan