I have most programs installed on a card, and all 'my documents' on the card too, and yet my storage memory is down to 6.5mb and program memory is down to 15.5mb and the machine is a bit slow.
I've run SK Tools and cleared the internet caches, and this can get back a couple of mb, but not much memory is reclaimed.
A quick browse of the files does not show up anything obvious, or any large files which look like they can be deleted.
Does anyone know if there are any guides as to what files can be safely removed?
Also is it correct that even when files are installed on a card, then some files are still added to the main memory - and so the more programs installed the more main memory is taken up in any case?
I wonder how my memory has gone down, when I am very careful not to use it up?
I do have quite a few programs on the card though
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Hi, I also have the same issue. I save all my .cabs onto the storage card, yet when I use IE or TomTom I go to the memory and it slowly goes up until it maxes out at 62mb? Is TomTom or IE the issue here? I save nearly everything to my storage card and t makes no sense that it just gets used up so quickly. I have looked at programs like pocket mechanic and Memaid...Has anyone tried any of these programs and do they free up main storage memory... Is this a ROM issue...I use mUn TE. Thanks!
use Oxios Hibernate
I tend to use Tillanosoft Spacefinder to sort folders/files into size order, and see which are the biggest hogs.
Basic version is free, and the paid version adds very little, to not worth buying!
Some programs will put stuff into main memory- dll's, logs and settings etc. Usually the main culprit is Pocket IE Caches, but if you have cleared those, it ought to be OK.
TomTom, even when asked to install to a card, will place the application and voice files in main memory (= 5MB) but these can be manually copied back to the card, and the Programs link edited accordingly.
A large number of emails, calendar or contacts will also grab memory, especially if you store attachments. Don't delete the holding files though or you'll lose everything!
Wolfy: TomTom doesn't incrementally use memory, but IE does because of its cache. Go to PIE, MEnu/Options/Memory and Delete Files- see how much memory you get back! Memmaid and SK Tools do a good job in housekeeping these items.
If you add/remove a lot of applications, you may find your Application Data folder taking up a fair amount of memory- it holds dll's for safe removal of the apps, but some can be a few hundred KB. I've removed these in the past with no adverse effect, but maybe I've been lucky!
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What can I delete, or shift to the card?
Pics and music are on it already now.
Thanks in advance
hard reset and don't install stuff on phone unless vital!
That's right.
Hard reset is recommended.
But for now you can uninstall some of your large apps (see your activesync) and then reinstall them, pointing to your SD card.
Wizardragon -- What actually is the problem you are getting?? If you have installed lots of programs on your device rather than the SD Card then of course you will get low memory messages sooner or later - however I am sure you haven't put a post here for something as obvious as that. :wink:
Can you do a SOFT reset and then immediatley go and look and see what memory you have - Both types. Post the results and then we can see what the issue is.
Thanks
The problem was caused by the camera software changing back to storing on the phone and loads of surfing while I was on holiday - but I scrubbed as many programs as I could - cleared the net cache - and copied the (few) pics over- and it is now showing 15M storage and 20M program storage free.
So basically now I'd like an idea if this is about right for free resources?
I have mine around 30Mb for storage and 25Mb for programs. I still have plenty of apps installed but mostly on my storage card.
Do you have any games (apart from the builtin solataire etc) installed in main memory? They can usually take up a least a few meg unless they're basic games with no fancy graphics.
its going OK now - with the exception of the camera software being crap.
I only have the standard games now.
Hello,
I just discovered I'm even more of a ignorant farmgirl than I thought... this time it's the MiniSD card I don't know anything about.
I mean: of course you plug it in and you browse to it to add/move/remove files... but it would seem that's not enough. So, can anyone point me to a SD-on-Wiz Faq, please?
A few things I'm looking into:
- How do you get the Wiz to automatically look among SD card-based files from an app? (i.e. "Open" from Word looks into the card first)
- How do you get the camera to save pictures directly onto the SD card, so as not to waste precious device-based memory?
- What are the actual differences between installing apps onto a SD card compared to the device memory? I noticed some apps seem to behave differently according to where they are placed.
- Is there any way to create a card-based auto-multi-installer to do all the dirty work of reinstalling apps automatically after a hard reset?
I'm sure I left out several other interesting and useful things...
Thanks in advance for your contributions!
there´s some reg tweaks you can do so the wizard will store stuff on the sd-card and not in main memorey (i. e. IE cache files, Camera pics, etc.)
just search the forum you´ll find some stuff there.
For the difference between SD-Card and main storage installation. i have no idea. haven´t noticed any change in my apps. maybe just in speed of loading apps. but that´s all i noticed.
for doing backup of your apps. a lot of programms you intall on your sd card don´t need to be reinstalled after a hard reset. just need to put the shortcuts and links back in the folders.
hope i could help.
greets Freez
Making the camera save pictures to the SD card can be done by changing the settings in the camera app under options.
There is no way to automatically have all apps look on the SD card first, every app needs a change in their settings or in the registry to accomplish that.
Installing apps on the SD card has pros and cons. The pros are of course that your storage space on the device (in the ROM) gets used up less, so you can install more apps on your device. It is however not necessary to leave it as empty as possible as it was in WM 2003 SE. In WM 2003 SE (on for instance the Magician) apps were installed in RAM and the more you installed on the device, the more RAM was used up and the less RAM there was available for running apps, resulting in a slow down of the device. Furthermore running out of battery power would result in the device turning off, emptying the RAM and lossing all data and installed apps. In WM5 this is different. Since ROM is used for storage and RAM for executing only, you can fill your ROM to the max without slowing down the device. Furthermore an empty battery will mean no data loss. Concluding, there is no necessity to install as much as possible to the SD card and leave your ROM space empty.
The cons of installing to your SD card are that some apps (e.g. today-plug-ins) don't like being installed on SD card. For today plug-ins this has to do with the start-up process of the Wizard. After turing the device on or waking it from sleep, the device will first load the apps and then initialize the SD card. The device will try to load the apps on the today screen (the plug-ins that is) that are stored on the SD before the SD slot is initialized and the apps cannot be found by the device, creating glitches and problems.
Another con for me is that I like to switch between my SD with TomTom navigation maps and my SD with my mp3/movie collection. If I install most apps to SD, this means that I will have to change my SD again if during a movie or MP3 I want to use one of these apps quickly.
However, if you use only one SD for installing and not much else, this problem does of course not exist.
If your storage in ROM is not full, there is no reason to install aps to SD.
Thak you for the info so far!
Koskie: paint me 'tard... I never even saw the camera Options menu until you mentioned it...
I am about to start getting some cards and here is what I was thinking...
1. a 512 or 128MB card for everyday use. Store IE cache, ringtones, pictures, and some programs (solitaire, puzzles, monopoly etc).
2. A series of 2GB cards for music, movies and TV content when I travel. I was planing on installing TCPMP on each one to avaoid putting that in my device memory.
As far as restoring after flashing or a hard reset, I currently keep a copy of all programs, ringtones, pim backups etc on my home computer. It is organized by file type, utils, games, rings etc. so when I flash I just go through again and reinstall one by one. I've found this is easier than figuring out where to download everything all over again.
@bubism: no problem, took me a while to figure it out too, that option is well-hidden!
@dcdivenut: Good plan. Those small size cards are really cheap. Why don't you install TCPMP on your device memory? It is not too big. Or have you crammed your mem so full that you have no more place for it.
I also have all apps I ever installed still on my desktop, including a list with all the reg edits I did and all apps I have currently installed with a short explanation for most apps and installation instructions when a standard install is not good enough (e.g. TomTom 5.21)
In case a hard reset is needed,I just grab the list and install all apps again, then do all the regedits. Still a lot of work, but quicker than having to search all apps and edits online. I recommend this approach to everyone.
Hey Koskie:
Can you post that list and what to do? I have a new 8125 and miniSD card and have no idea what to use the card for. I won't be putting music, pictures or videos on it since it is a work phone.
Ski
@ Skijackz: I use my SD card for music, TomTom 5.21 maps and video's only, all my apps are installed in main (=device) mem. I have approx. 16 MB free of Storage mem. If you have no use for your SD card and your storage mem is sufficient to store your apps, you can take it out and replace it with the plastic dummy that came with it. In that way your card slot is protected against dust and dirt, but the SD card will not use any power, thereby lengthening your uptime. If you use your device for navigation, you have to use the card to store the maps on it, since they are too big for your device mem.
The list I made is partly in Dutch, especially the notes, so it might not be very useful to you. Furthermore the list is a mess, since it works through my personal filing system (copy and paste wherever my cursor happens to rest). It is a mostly chronological list, I mostly added everything I found at the end. I'll attach it anyway, perhaps you'll find it useful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them here or through PM.
Thanks a lot for the tip on storing pics to the storage card!!! That's a real find! ....and much appreciated!!
This place is the BEST :!: :!:
Thanks Koskie!! This is a real help.
I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
dropknowledge said:
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.
DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out
well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this
Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?
Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?
You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.
youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...
Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!
There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125
I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...
Hello
I just did a search but could not find any links to clean internal memory
I would ber happy if you show me any links or ways to reduce load on internal memory, I could not find any folders or files where I can delete or move to storage card.
Regards
Tunc
First step would be to clear out all internet cache and history. Then I would make sure and clean out all old emails from the deleted folder. Then I would uninstall some programs that can easily be run from the microSD card and reinstall them to work from there. Memmaid has a great little program for doing these things on a regular basis and keeping your internal memory as freed up as possible.
Another thing you can do (even temporarily) is to change the amount of included info under ActiveSync (use less than "everything"),
try to use Anton Tomov Pocket Mechanic, select Relocate plugin, then select what you want to move, and after that you can see what exactly take so much space, there is some calculator in there. And if you want it, you can move cache storage to another place - e.g. uSD card
I use ClearTemp. It's freeware.
get it at http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=ClearTemp&platform=ppc
would there be ever be a hack that can turn you memorycard into your mainmemory just likee the iphone haves built in memory.Because hate running out of memory on my windowsmobile phones and have the apps i use dont even really save to the memory card its always using the main memory
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how do you disable all the fullmemory notifications on windows devices
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how do you disable all the fullmemory notifications on windows devices
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What apps are you talking about. most memory space goes to pics and music, which can be stored on the card. And you can install extract programs on your card instead of you internal memory.
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but that using up my memory i save everthing to my memory card but main memory still be draining it self dont know why
SD cards are only ever storage memory. The card behaves like a disk drive, that appears to be connected to the mount point '\Storage Card', or whatever your machine is configured to call it, there is a registry hack to change it if you want.
Storage space must be read into main memory, before the CPU can get at it. Access time is pretty quick, but nowhere near main memory speeds.
It's there for storing stuff as its name implies. Apps, data, movies, music, etc etc. It's not much use for anything else.
It sounds like you're confusing program and storage memory. If you're getting program memory errors, then you need to get a task manager and get better control of running applications/processes, or get a task manager that closes applications instead of minimizing them with the 'x' button.
If you are having storage memory issues, then you need to check for log files that might be hogging all the storage memory. Or get a utility like ClearTemp to empty out temporary folders. If you do a lot of streaming, sometimes you can get large stream dumps that aren't properly deleted and that hog a lot of memory.
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but that using up my memory i save everthing to my memory card but main memory still be draining it self dont know why
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You have probably some large log files, created by ActiveSync or some other program. Use SKTools or something similar to find it, clean Your main memory and disable the logging once You know where it comes from. That way it doesn't fill up Your main memory.
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It sounds like you're confusing program and storage memory. If you're getting program memory errors, then you need to get a task manager and get better control of running applications/processes, or get a task manager that closes applications instead of minimizing them with the 'x' button.
If you are having storage memory issues, then you need to check for log files that might be hogging all the storage memory. Or get a utility like ClearTemp to empty out temporary folders. If you do a lot of streaming, sometimes you can get large stream dumps that aren't properly deleted and that hog a lot of memory.
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Ted You beat me to it by a minute
thats everyone
thanks using sktools way better in so good. oh and there any developers out there
SD-Card Driver 4 Read Speed
Hello all,
While mentioning SK-Tools ;
Not so long ago I stumbled over this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2915068&postcount=1
So use SK-Tools its benchmarking capabilities to test your SD-Card before(!) and after the 'driver' (tnyynt SD TuneUP) mentioned above is installed!!!
It's kinda technical and a lot of 'know how' is discussed, but the main thing = tnyynt SD TuneUP, I assure you, will boost your SD-Card READiNG-PERFORMANCE!!!
Ofcourse, making a backup in advance could make a difference for everyone installing this,
Senax
P.S. I did not make a backup in advance!
How many sms & email do you have, both of these save to the main memory, a few hundred+ will soon fill it up. Internet Explorer cache is the other one to check. These are the 2 biggest memory users.
Can you cook? If so Extendir endir may help in achieving more free Main Memory space...
Hope this helps.
they should make you be able to use you memory card as your main memory or least fix instead of worrying about the windowsmobile7series that not coming out in the end of this year.