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Blackberry &XDA2 not yet available?

I have downloaded and installed the latest ROM with Blackberry, but o2 UK are giving me mixt signals about the ability to use Blackberry service. Some say it won't happen until Jan 05', any ideas about this?

Blackberry & O2
Hi
I have been down to the local O2 shop and used their online service Blackberry is up and running.
You must register with O2 and take on the tariff (£15 per month 5mb inclusive) in addition to your normal monthly bill and your away.
Xmail does roughly the same thing and its only £4.95 per month.
TJ

Blackberry (Internet Mail) is available from O2, but expect problems getting it set-up.
Seems like there's only a few people in CS that can do it. Mine took 6 days.
It's £15 per month (with 5mb GPRS data included). You can add a voice tariff to that as well if you want (increasing the cost).
I've got BB at last, and it's superb.
Mark

Can you answer me a question about the BB client?
I use MMIS to sync my work email, but I'd like to use BB for personal email.
Can you use BB and MMIS (ActiveSync) at the same time, or does the BB client take over the ActiveSync inbox?
Thanks!

mark.peters said:
Blackberry (Internet Mail) is available from O2, but expect problems getting it set-up.
Seems like there's only a few people in CS that can do it. Mine took 6 days.
It's £15 per month (with 5mb GPRS data included). You can add a voice tariff to that as well if you want (increasing the cost).
I've got BB at last, and it's superb.
Mark
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Only the Customer retention team could set you up on a BB tariff as of last week.
I'd imagine that this'll change but I've had BB on my XDAII for almost a week now and it's great.
Has anyone else had problems downloading attachments?

I have Blackberry working on my XDA2
BUT not completely
We have a BES server here at work & a load of the guys have BBs. I, however, didn't want yet another device to carry around with me in addition to XDA2.
When the ROM came out last week, installed it and set about setting up BB services on my XDA2.
FIRSTLY (for those of you who are already in a Corporate environment) you must have the Blackberry APN initialised on your SIM. This can take a while as ATM the knowledge of what to do is not yet with the support teams. It actually took me 3 (working) days to get that bit sorted & at the same time had 2 days without any phone as well. Anyway, sorted on Monday & now every time our Exchange server gets an email for me, its straight onto my XDA2 quicker than appearing in Outlook!
Whats NOT working for me is the ability to send emails & request further data or attachments. We've raised an issue with RIM but still waiting for a solution. I managed to unistall/re-install CMIME service & that allowed me to send a couple of emails but its gone back to not sending
I'll update this when it works!!
With the XDA2 BB only works for emails atm & (allegedly) Callendar. There is a new BES server (4.0) out soon which will allow Contacts/Tasks as well - can't wait.
One thing I'd like to change is the noise it makes when it gets an email - just the same as the GPRS coverage one. Guess it'll be a registry hack. Want something a bit better than that & maybe vibrate like the OE BB device.

News ands it Official frm Blackberry
This comes direct from RIM the people who run Blackberry, I asked why there was a problem with O2 and Blackberry service.
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I wrote to Blackberry
Hi
Blackberry software etc was supplied by O2, but the site and service from O2 has been of little help.
I have been in to the shop Dumfries and in Edinburgh, even their links to Blackberry have been bad the phone numbers they have are for Mars chocolate and Social Services! yes thats no joke the staff at o2 tried calling the registration line for O2 Blackberry and thats who the got.
Anyway I'm sorry but the service from O2 is too expensive at £15 per month then additional cost per mb for download,
What are you offering direct?
Trevor
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ans from RIM
"Dear Trevor,
What it comes down to is that O2 should not have made that software available to anyone prior to the appropriate agreements and support structure being in place between O2 and RIM. RIM has no obligation to support O2 devices at this point but I will be speaking to our UK support group this morning and will raise your case and attempt to get it resolved.
Unfortunately, BlackBerry service is not available directly from RIM and can only be purchased through Carrier partners.
I will get back to you once I have more information."
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2nd email from Blackberry
"Dear Trevor,
I spoke to our support organization and they have clearly stated they are presently not taking any support calls for O2. RIM will only take Carrier support calls after there has been an offical launch, all agreements are in place and a support structure has been defined. This position results from O2 making the BlackBerry software available prior to any official launch and it is their responsibility to support their devices until that time. I am sorry that this is not the answer you were hoping for but I am unable to escalate within RIM.
I have been informed that the image that O2 posted for download was meant to be a ROM upgrade only and was not intended to include the Blackberry component. "
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And that folks is direct from the horses mouth, yes its out with O2, but there is no support service in place unless you book, buy and pay with Blackberry direct, if its done through O2(which it can be) there is no suport service as the deal hasn't been finalised with RIM.
Hope it helps those who were interested
Cheers
Trev

Blackberry on XDA2
Interesting details about the O2 arrangements with Rim - worrying !
I've installed the latest ROM and after 3 days of dealing with O2 data support, finally got my corporate e-mails delivered to my XDA.
You have to have the BBNet tariff enabled on your account, this being £15 per month in addition to your voice tariff.
I'm also able to pick up e-mails from my POP3 service (BT Internet) but I'm not sure what the refresh rate is.
According to O2, calendar synchronisation is not yet available. - does anybody know anything about this ?
Alan

bydandie said:
Only the Customer retention team could set you up on a BB tariff as of last week.
I'd imagine that this'll change but I've had BB on my XDAII for almost a week now and it's great.
Has anyone else had problems downloading attachments?
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At the moment as the amount of customers wanting Blackberry is quite small a lot of the front line customer services staff have not been fully trained on it.
The service provider you are on also could determine if you can have the service currently or not.
To add Blackberry capability to an account you also need to be on a suitable tariff. e.g O2 200 Combi - many of the older tariffs (as well as legacy tariffs) will not allow blackberry functionality.

Further to my last message, O2 have now discovered that they shouldn't have given me corproate access and have now taken it away !
The tarrif I am on is BBNet which only allows POP3 access to e-mail accounts (although you can get mail from 10 POP3 accounts).
You need the corporate tarrif is you want e-mails from an exchange server system. This is £37.50 per month. Also, the XDA2 will not support synchronisation of calendar and contacts via BB.
Apparently the XDA2S which is due out early next year will support more BB services.
I am also having problems with the BB service suspending itself. This appears to happen when I send an SMS - anybody got any ideas ?
Alan

Well, I currently can't get emails to my XDA
We have got a BES Server at work & use BB devices as well, so in theory all should work.
Apparently, I have not got a "corporate" device and that if RIM see such things going through their system, they disable access to it :? FFS
I get "Service Blocked" if I try to send an email.
This is highly frustrating as did previously have it all working & great it is too - I want it back!

Black Berry
Hi All
Im living in the Nertherlands and have been using my device and the Blackberry client for about a month.
After adding my mail account to the BES Server, Enabling my SIM for BB and GPRS from the Service Provider(Vodafone), adding the client software on my PC syncing everything up with the pins etc it has been working fine
Vodafone as far as I am aware did not do anything special to my account as they were unaware that an XDAII could use the BB Client

I-MATE for sale *updated w/pics*

I-Mate branded PocketPC Phone Edition (XDAII aka Himalaya) for sale.
Less than a year old.
great condition.
the phone has a small ding in the power button but not noticeable.
screen is protected from day 1.
no scratches whatsoever.
latest I-Mate ROM 1.72
complete with box and all accessories inside it
unlocked, can be used with either AT&T/Cingular or T-Mobile
Pics avail.
$450 shipped, paypal preferred (from verified accounts with verified shipping addresses only)
USA and Canada only.

Which I-Mate?
Which one? They make a few different models don't they?
If it's a pda2k I might be interested.

i-mate I
i-mate himalaya also known as XDAII

Ok, in that case, thanks but no thanks.

very interested do you still have it?

very interested do you still have it?

What is difference btwn Imate Jam & 02 Xda 2 mini in Aus

I doing some research before purchasing a new PDA and am favouring the O2 XDA mini being released thru Optus retail network.
but am javascript:emoticon(':?')
Confused (easily done I hear you say)
What is the difference between an IMate Jam and 02 XDA 2 Mini as offered to the Australian Market?
If there is a difference, would appreciate some feedback about which is better in this market (ie; features, value, support) and why.

I bought the o2 XDA II Mini on eBay (no contract, outright for AU$945) and the only real difference between it and the JAM that I can tell is the SD card in the box. But, the XDA II Mini costs more than the JAM (JAM appeared on ebay a few days after I bought the Mini for AU$889). If I had the choice, I would have bought the JAM because of the lower price (I have 2x 1Gb SD cards, no need for a $60 256Mb), but they are essencially the same device.
I also purchased a Sandisk SD WiFi (Harris Tech AU$130) and am EXTREMELY pleased with it. My last pda (iPAQ h4350) has builtin wifi/bluetooth and this makes up for it. The XDA II Mini is so small the extra SD card is not a bother (would prefer builtin, but no complaints). If you have WiFi, i recommend you get one.
I am very happy with mine, and it runs great on both Telstra (my plan for calls/sms) and on Optus (prepaid for GPRS only). Optus has better signal though, Telstra sucks. What is the plan (the upfront and monthly costs)?
All I can say is GO FOR IT!!!

I forgot to add, the XDA Mini i received had a dead pixel. I managed to get them to replace it for nothing. I am very happy with the service as well as the device.

G'day,
I'm making the same comparison, and these are the differences I've noticed at the respective product websites ( http://myxda.com/product/XdaIImini/template/Product.vm and http://www.imate.com/index.asp?PageAction=DETAILS_JAM )
O2 Mini bundle list mentions 2 stylii plus the 256MB SD card. Otherwise the bundles for each product are the same.
O2 software:
Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 standard applications: Pocket Outlook, Pocket Excel, Pocket Word, Pocket Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger, ActiveSync, Windows Media Player, Calculator, Terminal Services Clients, Games (Jawbreaker, Solitraire)
Multimedia Album
Picture Editor
Camera (phone and video capture)
ClearVue PDF and PPT
Integrated MMS
Java MIDlet Manager (J2ME)
Photo Contacts
SIM Manager
Wireless Modem
xBackup
Imate software:
MMS
Photo Contact / Caller Id
Photo album
Camera capture utility
Camcorder
40 chords polyphonic ring tones
Support standard MIDI format 0 and 1
Audio format WMA/AMR/MP3 (AAC optional)
SIM Manager
Wireless Modem
xBackup
Whether these two lists are just different ways of saying exactly the same thing I'm not really sure. Perhaps the O2 software list is just more accurate and better written...

Prices etc and a question
Thanks guys for feedback.
Mitchello - Further to your post. From the Optus shop direct - Business Edge One Plan
Price of the phone is $AUD749.00 paid over the contract period of 24 mths at $AUD31.20 per month on top of any plan taken. ie. BEO 33 access fee $33,
flagfall 18.7c, other calls 30.8c.
On data 0.0055c per kilobyte. - No flagfall.
Hope that helps. The cost of the phone is much cheaper than online prices so I guess they must be making money thru the call charges, but these plans are the same for any phone paid off over the contract period..
But why do you have Telstra and optus accounts, one for calls and one for data. Is the price difference worth the drama of two sim cards ??
I dont trust either of them, but we will see.

The only difference between the O2 and the IMATE models is the bundled software on the device. O2 have some extra software included on the Device then IMATE does, but IMATE seem to have a better support base then O2. IMATE tend to release Updates more frequently then O2. But the O2 does come with the 256MB Card aswell.

I have brought the XDA mini and Imate Jam. The only difference is see is the Jam has some Telstra crap and the leather case is different. The O2 case is better if you want to use it.
Otherwise no difference - Jam is cheaper.
Note I believe the Jam has a brighter screen than my O2 mini if that is possible?

Yep when I purchased my O2 mini the chap in the shop said the only real defference was some of the preloaded software/programs. He said the mini had more stuff pre setup for Oz.
I've had mine for a couple of months and just can't get over the potential this thing has...awesome.
So much to learn which is why finding forums like this has been great.
8) marto

get the imate jam (black), that's with 128Mb internal memory, 64 more than the original version of jam or o2 XDA2 mini. do not get optus bundle, get the phone, and get the $30 recharge with $120 credit.
if you average it out, it's only AUD0.001375 per kbyte (40K SLOT)
That's 87Mb for 30 days since credit expire in 30 days.
or just wait for the O2 atom? but it's not a HTC product...

Arrh just looked at the "atom" specs on the O2 site.... if you can wait, then do so... looks sweet.
Wonder what the price will be?
hmm was hard enough talking the wife into the mini so think the Atom is gonna be out of the question for some time

Do O2 and Vodaphone 'Network Lock' their phones

I am hoping to get a wizard as soon as they come out and it looks like O2 and Vodaphone will be first. Do both these carriers lock their phones? I currently have an Orange and a t-mobile account so would prefer to use my existing sims and just use the new account as a means to "spead the payment costs" (I got my jam for free 9 months ago for the price of a £22 p/m contract )
If they do lock their phones does anyway know if the existing unlock methods will work.
On a different note, I much prefer the look of the qtek 9100 to the k-jam - are there any hardware differences apart from the look?
Paul

I'm %90 sure they do... plus as a rule Vodafone butcher the firmware of most phones.
Get either a Imate or Qtek you should find it unlocked as its not a 'branded' phone.
I would suggest that buymobilephones.net is the best place as you can get one of the above with a contract... I am...
Terran

I am selling my Tmob MDA - great condition

Mods - please do not erase this thread as I noticed before some of the members were interested in buying this phone but no one was selling it.
I am not affiliated with any websites of suspicious nature - I am just selling my own T-Mobile MDA (US Residents only).
My wife got me the new phone for my birthday so you have the chance to get one great T-Mobile MDA. The phone is in very very very good condition. It was never dropped; never abused; does have screen protector from the day one; non damage on the phone screen at all; keyboard is NOT loose at all - when you open it it still "clicks" like on the day one when I first bought it from T-Mobile. I was very gentle with this phone - took very good care of it ...
However it is not brand new - there is one small 1/4" scratch on the top left corner on the back of the phone (I put my keys and the phone in the same pocket and it got scratched). The scratch is not obvious and noticeable unless you look for it. Besides this scratch - you may notice on the picture "T-Mobile" branding almost went away during the 2 year period. There is only "T" - no "-" and "mobile". It was not scratched away and the phone is NOT damaged on this spot.
It is T-Mobile SIM-locked and I believe it CAN be un-locked. I do not know how to do that, so the phone is T-Mobile SIM-locked.
Being SIM-Locked you can guess that the phone is CID locked as well. However, I do not see this as a problem since you will be able to play with it and set this phone up as you wish and the way you like it.
Phone comes with:
- 1x pqi 2GB miniSD card (miniSD card adapter included)
- 1xLeather case (after market clip-on case - paid about 15-20$ excellent quality)
- Manual Guide and Microsoft WM5 CD;
- 1x stylus pen (in MDA)
- 1x Brand New USB Sync cable
- 1x AC/DC Charger
- 1x Brand New Ear-phones (2.5mm)
- 1x used (original) battery that came with MDA; used for two years; still works with no problems;
- 1x Brand NEW battery - if you prefer to have it replaced; and
- FREE 108MBps Desktop PCI WiFi Card (no driver CD included)
Transaction requires PAYPAL account with confirmed address.
I have not completed Hard Reset since device works flawless. The phone is updated with the latest ROM from T-Mobile. There are following programs installed:
- Total Commander;
- Call Firewall;
- HTC Home plug-in;
- HTC Dialer skin;
- Lode Runner 1.0 game;
- Softkey;
- PointUI;
- and some more...
Please contact me on my e-mail address: [email protected] to negotiate the price and to give you my paypal e-mail address if we agree to go with the transaction. Price I would give it up for is $150. This price does not include shipping ($15 - two day priority or $10 regular usps) and insurance ($3). Total would be $165-170.
The item is listed on eBay as well and I will go by first come first serve basis.
Thank You!
PS Mods thank you for your understanding

Is anyone interested?
There has to be someone interested?

Its too much men!!!
Where are you from?
Many people said thta HTC TyTN is near 100 dlls
Thats why nobodys insterested...
and this needs to be moved to the accesories thread.