Hello to everybody. Hope it's not to annoying that i try it here. I read in the forum and in the tutorials - but it's still very confusing. Would be happy to read some answeres...
I have a new Vario II (latest model) and try to figure out some details.
1. I would like to upgrade to WM6 and found the Rom's posted here. I also read all the tutorials but i didn't find a final answere to this: When i flash the rom with a rom version posted here to just try - can i downgrade it to the original one? Sure there is a "Original Shipped ROM Version" of T-Mobile as the assumption is written in the tutorial.
2. I am just irritated because i read of some bootloader versions that are not downgradable. Is this still the case? Is the bootloader updated by a rom update? And if not when and why it is or should be updated? For what exactly the bootloader is needed?
3. I am using Windows Vista (but i also have an Computer with XP). I read all about the problems with this because of the missing Active Sync. Does this affect also the procedure of updating the rom? Will future versions be compatible with the "Windows Mobile Device Center"?
4. I am also irritated to read about radio rom updates. Are they includet in full rom updates? Why are there so much updates of the radio rom that are not given by the single providers? Are the radio roms all the same for all versions of the hermes and all the languages? is an radio update downgraded when i go back to my original rom? If not is it able to downgrade it in every version?
Sorry for alls this noob questions. It's a very new material for me and i hope to be a little more experienced in a few weeks...
Sonstiger
Hi and welcome
Have you read our Mrvanx guides. I suggest using his guided process particularly if you do not have experience in flashing. See here:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=7&Itemid=27
Look to the main menu on the page.
and look on the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeForBeginners
Mike
Thank you for your answer.
That was what i did. But the questions were still there...
[1] Hmm..yes it is possible (and there is always a "but"), but if you do upgrade it to wm6 (And the rom is not official (or not from t-mobile itself)) you will lose your guarantee on your device. So if you want to downgrade it to wm5 again you need to find a wm5 t-mobile rom (and there are alot of threads with links to download those t-mobile wm5 roms) or you could backup your rom that is on your device, but thats another story.
[2] As far as I know, POF (he's a smart-ass member) has a new bootloader and its possible to downgrade. (or you flash your wm5/wm6 (any rom for the hermes) with your sd card so you dont need a bootloader. Click)
[3] I used Vista to! And there are no problems if you READ this, Mrvanx guide!
[4] You can be irritated as much as you want but I think you're talking bull****. You can flash any hermes radio on you device but the point is, every radio is different for each person. So you need to find out what radio is best for you. And if you dont have any problems with your existing radio, why flash it?
I just flash everything on my device because I think its fun to see what happens..
everything you do with your device when i comes to flashing; IS ON YOUR OWN RISK! So dont blame us when you blow up your device.
Have fun..
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Hi Guys,
I am new to this forum and also to Windows Mobile. My first Windows Mobile is Artenis. I wanted your assistance to upgrade the same.
Following is my Mobile's device information
Rom Version - 3.7.707.1 WWE
Rom Date - 6/21/07
Radio Version - 02.69.90
Protocol Version - 4.1.13.30
ExtRom Version - 3.6.707.101
My mobile's about has the following information
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3)
My question is - whether is this the latest OS ?
If not can you guys direct me to the latest rom which does not slow down my mobile.
Also after installing the latest rom, will my windows mobile still be an authentic or a crakced version
Kinldy reply and assist me asap.
Regards,
Kailash
Im fairly new here too. I recently installed Artemis_Touch_Vanilla_4.02 on a vista pc with no problems. The whole thing is far more easyer than you might think. As long as you follow the guide exactly you should be cool. I'll help you step by step if you like. PM me.
kailashnj said:
Hi Guys,
Also after installing the latest rom, will my windows mobile still be an authentic or a crakced version
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depends on what you mean by "authentic". flashing a new rom will NOT SIM-unlock your device. you might however lose any warranty...not sure about this, i never cared =)
if you are flashing a new rom, you should use USPL by pof to temporarily cid-unlock your device. if you KNOW your device is not cid-locked, you dont have to do this, but doing it anyway will not do any harm. i recommend using USPL everytime you flash a rom to your device.
if you use meschle's ROM as suggested by leethedon1 (i second that) USPL will be included in the download. just follow the steps.
read about flashing/cid-unlocking/USPL here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308242
read about meschle's newst ROMs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371182
I am looking for a rom which will give me better response time than the current one. Also I am looking for a very good rom which is stable. One more question. After flashing the rom with a new one, if I don't like it, is there a way to go back to the original rom?
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I am looking for a rom which will give me better response time than the current one. Also I am looking for a very good rom which is stable.
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since i dont know your current ROM i cant say anything about "better", "faster" or "more stable". however, meschle's 4.02 vanilla (and also lite) is one of the fastest and most stable ROM i tried. and i tried quite a lot...
kailashnj said:
One more question. After flashing the rom with a new one, if I don't like it, is there a way to go back to the original rom?
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you can't go back. what you can do is flash any other ROM (including your original ROM, as long as you have it somewhere). dumping your current ROM is possible, search this forum. however, that's advanced stuff.
I have just bought htc touch hd with dansih OS rom. the phone is locked to danish 3g (www.3.dk).
#1. Any thing I need to take care to flash a new OS on a locked phone?
#2. Do I need to find&save the configuration for 3g setup thus after I
flash to english OS, I will still be able to call&surf?
#3. How could I backup the complete ROM thus when something goes wrong
I could revert to original ROM and retrun the phone?
I tried to find the answer int he forum, but failed. Thanks in advance for your answer.
Now I started to get some answer to my own question:
#1. I will need to have SSPL or HSPL to flash my rom to another language
I prefer to SSPL.
#2. The phone will still be locked to 3.com after flashing which I don't care
Still questions:
#1. Any setup related to 3.com for internet surfing?
#2. How I could backup original ROM and revert to the original ROM?
I am living in DK and got the same phone from 3.
Used USPL when flashing, and no problems at all.
The phone will automatically get 3;s settings from the network.
The original Danish rom is available in the rom development forum in one of the stickies
Thank you for the answer. I will try to flash it then.
Just a piece of advice - MUST read wiki pages regarding flashing ROMS. This will enable you to flash the device with confidence and will prevent any possibility of DAMAGE you may cause during flashing.
Credit to those pages goes to respective authors.
Thank you. I have just successfully flashed HD to the latest english version
with the advice from wiki and you.
Everything works fine.
Got another couple of questions:
#1. What is the difference of "fully power off" from "soft reset"
#2. GPS and AGPS. How does GPS work in HD?
Is that possible to turn it on/off manually to save power if navigation is not needed.
#3. Do you have any recommendation of a cooked ROM? My taste is to have a lite version. e.g.: I don't really need google maps which I could install at any time when needed.
Thanks.
Hey guys,
I have been browsing this forum extensively for the past two days and must say there is wealth of resources here and lot of knowledge sharing.
However I find that most of the threads are bit on the steep side for a Windows mobile novice like me to understand. I just got a new HD2 few days back.
Can some one please give a one line meanings of below terms and if possible links on this site or elsewhere that can give a lay mans definition. Once I got a hang of the terms then I can go around on my own. I am sure there are many like me.
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
- Flashing
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
- Radio
- SPL
Thanks in advance.
Metal
metal675 said:
Hey guys,
I have been browsing this forum extensively for the past two days and must say there is wealth of resources here and lot of knowledge sharing.
However I find that most of the threads are bit on the steep side for a Windows mobile novice like me to understand. I just got a new HD2 few days back.
Can some one please give a one line meanings of below terms and if possible links on this site or elsewhere that can give a lay mans definition. Once I got a hang of the terms then I can go around on my own. I am sure there are many like me.
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
- Flashing
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
- Radio
- SPL
Thanks in advance.
Metal
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Hi and welcome!
You might want to read this wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
It should cover all of the above (it is designed for a non-HD2 device, but the explanations aren't dependant on model).
metal675 said:
- HSPL (I saw the main HSPL thread but does not explain what is HSPL)
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"HSPL" or "Hard SPL" is a bootloader. What this means is that it's software that goes on your phone which is invoked as the phone loads, and from there loads the operating system and/or presents and executes other advanced functions.
The default bootloader is "locked" so that only signed ROMs can be flashed. HSPL un-"locks" this so you can flash any ROM.
metal675 said:
- Flashing
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"Flashing" refers to writing to ROM. When you "flash" a phone you write a new operating system to its ROM.
metal675 said:
- Cooked ROM, stock ROM
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A "stock" ROM is one distributed and/or made by the OEM. A "cooked" ROM is one distributed and/or made by a non-OEM.
The ROMs you can download from HTC's site are "stock".
The ROMs you can download in the ROM forum are "cooked".
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- Radio
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The "radio" is the firmware that goes on your phone that controls most of its BIOS functions.
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- SPL
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A bootloader for the phone. The "H" in "HSPL" means "Hard" meaning it's un-"locked".
Great responses.
rp-x1,
Thats precisely the kind of url I was looking for. It explains fair bit on SPL. Are there any other pages here, perhaps one which is indexed or a step by step tutorials going further into flashing and explaining other terms?
Spike 15,
Thanks for the definitions.
So I understand that 'flashing' is a Winmo term for actually changing the core rom.
If i relate it to Windows terminology, then I guess ROM in WinMo is similar to set of custom dll, exe's in Windows that affects the core OS.
Also, what is a signed and unsigned ROM? I know in Symbian we have signed and unsigned apps but they can be self signed, I guess this must be something similar.
- Is installing HSPL (the one on this forum) recommended?
- How would I determine that I need to upgrade or change to another ROM be it stock or cooked?
For e.g. I tried installing the new HTC rom from their website but I got an invalid vendor id. I believe that is because my phone is locked to T Mobile UK. Would HSPL + a WWE ROM unlock the phone?
Thanks again.
Metal
Bringing up thread.
Can someone please respond?
Should I really install HSPL or a Soft SPL?
If it is HSPL can I use the one given on this
link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Should i use the HSPL.zip and HSPL2_RUN.zip ?
I am locked to T Mobile but want to use O2, will Hard SPL allow me to do that? Means if I do HSPL and then flash a WWE rom
Thanks
Metal,
Before you do anything there has been early Tmobile USA hd2's out there so i have to ask... do you have a hd2 from europe or from USA.
the new TMobile USA hd2 has SPL 2.X.X, the hspl you see around is for the europe one and WILL NOT work on TMO USA HD2.
U asked if it was recommended... well it does void the warranty... but you can go backwards if needed to send into repairs, but that scares some people in to even attempting this for a 500-800 dollar device.
Now away from that part of it, yes unlocking your phone allows you to flash these "cooked" roms into your phone... which by theory will make your phone work faster, better, and do things it "should have" out the box. There are normally little treats as well as built in software that makes your experience better because you don't have to load on apps and slow down your phone because they are already "cooked" into the ROM.
Boredtonite,
Thanks for the reply.
I am on T Mobile UK, so I assume that it is the European version.
I had a look at few vids on youtube regarding flashing and then reverting it back, so it does not look that difficult to me.
Only thing that I want to know is if I should do it, if yes which is the correct version I should use.
Can anyone provide me the link to the correct version of HSPL that I should use for my T Mobile UK phone
Also once I run that is it recommended if I flash the HTC wwe rom from its website?
hi. i just bought a tmobile hd2. some of my phones informations is:
spl-2.10.0000 8g xe
fcc id:nm8pb81120
os version 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
manila ver 2.5.20121412.2
rom 2.13.531.1 (90963) wwe
redio ver 2.10.50.26
protocol 15.39.50.07u
cpu 8250b
speed 1024mhz
ram 576 mb
flash size 1024mb
i've read lots of articles on this site. i suppose i'll need to instal another rom on my phone. i read a lot but i get little confused. i think first i have to instal HardSPL (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614) second i have to flash a radio and i can instal a rom. and on this page (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784) it says i don't need to flash a radio. which means that i just install hardspl and instal this rom... am i right?
can you guys help me what am i suppose to do... and which version of hardspl, radio and rom works well for me?
sory to ask lots of questions but i don't know enough about wm phones ( thanks for guides...
Hi, basic steps are
1. Backup your important data like contacts etc..
2. Its very IMPORTANT that you Flash HardSPL first before flashing any ROM (No worries,it only needs to be done once for you to enjoy subsequent custom ROMs). Version 2.08.HSPL is ok.
3. Browse the threads for a suitable "TMobile HD2 compatible ROM" or visit this link for comfirmed ROMs.
4. Perform a Hard reset after successfully flashing any of the ROMs
5. Enjoy!
i suggest u clear your schedule, get coffee, tea, drink(s) and visit This Link . It contains info and links to all the guides you can possibly need to push you and your device to a higher level. i wouldn't recommend trying android till you are very comfortable with flashing ROMs.
you dont need to worry about the radio just yet, because since you have a tmous phone, it already has a radio that will work with all tmous compatible roms anyway.
Well I'm gonna just say right now I'm not an expert or anything since I'm relatively new too. I'm just trying to help, I would however advise wait for a more experienced person to answer.
First, if you want to flash a ROM follow this guide for the TMOUS HD2's. It goes over how to do it, which ROMs are compatible and all that.
Yes, you do have to get HSPL (except I think there are methods when you don't, though that might just be for the international phones...). But to get HSPL you should probably use this. I don't know if it is the only thing that does it but it, from what I understand, is the most well known. It also keeps you from "bricking" your phone.
From what I understand the only time you have to flash a radio is if the ROM needs it, and the chefs will say if it needs a certain one or list ones that it works with on their ROM page. I think most of them support the radio that comes stock, though don't take my word for it. I would wait for someone else to confirm or re-explain this paragraph because I'm not completely for sure.
As for which ROM is right for you...well only you can answer that. They all are different and different ones have advantages over the others. You just gotta explore a little and see what looks nice. This is the list of ROMs that support the T-Mobile HD2 so stick to it. I don't know how up-to-date it is (meaning I don't know if there are any new ones or not) but stick to those, you can "brick" your phone otherwise.
I would however advise if you're new to WM phones to try out themes first. They are a lot safer and I don't think there is any chance of ruining your phone (the only reason I flashed mine is because I've done it with a different phone before and felt comfortable doing it). Don't do anything you are uncomfortable doing and understand all the risks that go into anything you do to your phone before you do them.
Sorry for the long post, just hope this helps a little.
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I just got double ninja'd
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
Muzun28 said:
thaks everybody for all informations. i'm still reading to find out how to install a rom and which one is good. i liked enegy rom gtx themed. i'll take a try. just before doing something to my phone i'm just tring to learn more but i'll do it anyway with a goodway or hardway... i hope everythig goes well...
thanks again...
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That's d spirit...You'll be amazed @ what the search function on XDA coughs up...Everything'll go well once u stick to d guides and TMobile compatibie ROMs & Radios.
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
It looks like COM5 and COM2 are just different versions. COM5 offers more options it looks like though, but I'm not sure. Someone else can probably answer that a lot better than me. I am also unable to answer the radio question. Sorry.
As for stock ROM though, that is the ROM that came already on your HD2 when you got it.
Muzun28 said:
i picked up this rom (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652649) but there is two options. 1) com5(c5) 2)com2(c2). i don't know what it means... and if want to install one of these roms do i have to flash a radio after installing hspl?
and what is the stock rom?
thanks again...
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I see u picked out Kumar's ROM...Click Here for a thread on the definitions and differences between COMs...And No, you won't need to flash a radio after installing HSPL or a custom ROM (Unless you are having problems connecting to your network in which case, u need 2 be careful 2 flash a radio known to work with Tmobile HD2).
Stock ROM is the original/default ROM which TMobile shipped with your device. Follow this guide and you can grab the stock ROM from here. The Stock ROM has to be re-flashed to your device if u ever have to return it to Tmobile as flashing a custom ROM voids your warranty. Grab useful links and watch video tutorials here.
Hope dis helps ya.
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
Muzun28 said:
thaks voncrane i learned a lot today...
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You are welcome, we r all noobs on different levels..
Hello Everyone,
I need some help and I would appreciate some feedback. Hope I wouldn't have to bore you with a lot of questions here. I just bought an HTC HD2 mobile phone (Model: T8585) WinMo 6.5 Professional with the following software specs:
SPL: SPL 1.66.0000 XE
ROM Version: 1.72.162.0 GER
Radio : 2.07.61.22_2
Protocol Version: 15.32.50.07U
OS Version: 5.2.21869
The problem is that the OS is in German and I want to change this to English. The phone is not locked to any network. I can use any mobile operator's simcard. In fact, I am currently using O2 simcard, although I bought the phone from vodafone germany. The thing is that it looks like the hardware is locked to vodafone's custom german OS, I tried to install an english OS and it failed with an error like "invalid ID" or something. I have read through a few threads here but I thought of explaining my situation here first before proceeding with anything.
So my first question is, can I use the HSPL3 in this case and what kind of ROM will I be able to flash my htc hd2 with after HSPL3? Secondly, can I still maintain my radio software without flashing a new one after hspl3? Thirdly, what's the difference between a cooked rom and a stock rom? Lastly, when a phone is bricked, does it also mean the phone is dead? Can a dead phone be reversed?
I am sorry but I'm a little bit new with HTC. It's my first smartphone actually The first 2 questions are the most important of all.
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you
Bisoo
Dear user, first of all welcome on xda.
Secondly tray to use the search option, so the next time you don't need to wait till someone answer you.
A lot of new users have mostly the same question, so the answer was alreddy bean given in the past.
But okay, Now I'm replaying your questions, way not help you out.
About your question if you like to stay on stock Rom, but you will have a other language take a look on this thread, read and follow the instructions and all will become Okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642486
Fore your latest question about the deferent between Stock Rom and Custom Rom, well the there are deferent builders, but the idea is the same. building a Rom with the latest packaging and build on the needs of the followers.
So you will see and find lot of different, the biggest different between the custom Rom's is style!
Take a look on this thread fore finding custom Rom's and read the sticky threads first! there is a lot of usfull information on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
Fore replaying your question about HSPL, this will depends of your choice of your Rom, some Rom builders will advice you to use HSPL2 (1.66) some will advice you HSPL3 2.08, ... it depends of the Rom, and the conclusion of the Rom builder based on his test's.
I hope you have now some more information,
Best
Kurt
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About your question if you like to stay on stock Rom, but you will have a other language take a look on this thread, read and follow the instructions and all will become Okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642486
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this method will work, but requires making a gold card which isn't free.
much easier to use hspl and then flash a stock rom in your preferred language.
if i were the op i would
1 install hspl2,(hspl3 offers nothing that hspl2 can't do, hspl3 is not "better" or a higher version, it just supports tmous phones, that's all. hspl2 is more useful to regular hd2 users.)
choose either 1.66.hspl or 2.08.hspl, doesn't really matter, you can change it whenever you like.
2 flash the rom of your choice.
you can also search for UK serial and download and flash the latest rom that way, again a search will find all you need
I am so pleased with your feedback. I guess I should have taken some time to go through all the threads on this site, instead of creating a thread which has questions which have already been answered on older threads. But I appreciate your responses
I have to admit that whoever created Hspl is just genius. I followed hspl3 installation guide and now I have been able to flash an European stocked WWE ROM (english) on my german carrier ROMed HTC. I took the S/N from one of the links Kurt provided. It's perfect now, although I am still a bit cautious and hoping nothing happens to my phone. I read a few scary threads here where some people, after some days, complained that their phones died after flashing with hspl. But I have the feeling that if one follows the steps correctly and consider the requirements keenly, probably nothing will happen. That's what I did.
Thanks a lot to you and all the guys who've contributed one way or the other on this site. I am sure I'll be back, maybe not with questions but contributions Thank you so much.
Bisoo