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Hi all mates!
I'd like to open a thread to discuss about this piece of software!
I have to buy one among tomtom3, destinator 3 and Navigator 4 so I think it's good to open this thread to share any comments and infos and any other thoughts concerning theese sat-nav programs!
Cya!!!
Forget Destinator for a start. We have a review of the previous version of Navigon here and TomTom3 here.
I have myself check out different navigation systems and have concluded that Navigon Mobile Navigator 4 is the most sophisticated one. But I must concede, it is expensive, they had delays in bringing the software to market, they have already made an upgrade available (presumably there were issues with the new software), and they have not managed to put the demo on their website for about the last 3 months. In addition, I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
There is also a POI handler available (in English) at: http://www.navigating.de
Check out this German site for a review (in German): http://www.pocket.at/navigation/navivergleich.htm
But I still believe it is the most sophisticated navigation system available for PPC, I am just wondering whether something simpler would do for me. :roll:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
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I planned to buy the Fortuna clip-on gps bluetooth: so do u think with navigon it's not compatible?
Btw, i can purchase the navigon bundle with his bluetooth + Tmc receiver!
Any other thoughts?
Thx u all!
jag said:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
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Destinator has a great deal of issues and it's latest version is no match for any of your other options, Consider CoPilot, TomTom or Navigon as your top three choices. Others worth considering are Deluo Routis, also sold as Socket MyNavigator and Intellinav amongst others.
I have found that navigon doesn't support custom POIs! is that right?
Another thing: a little very pleased feature in destinator is the possibility to read the phone number of certain POI like restaurant, bar, ecc; so the question is: has any of the other competitors the ability to do this?
I believe that with the POI handler Navigon does support custom POIs. Check the link I indicated above, it is in English.
Ok, that's right for the POIs, but for what concern telephone number?
Does anyone knows something?
no one?
I am currently using the Navigon older software 1.5 which also has RDS-TMC together with my MDAII .The TMC function is really useful and works in Germany, Belgium , UK - all these countries I have personally tested and have been rerouted and saved several times. The POI included in Navigon also work well some are already allocated but you can download more also some from POI handler and you this service you have to pay a yearly fee. ( for speed camera etc)
The advantages of Navigon are that you get the whole of Europe and the TMC function and no other extra costs except upgrades. Up to now I am very happy especially now since I also have a official carkit for the MDA II. I laugh at all my friends with thier expensive navi systems in their cars. Navigon , Tom tom etc are really not expensive if you compare them with car built in systems
I looked at Tom Tom but found the maps more clearer ( for myself ) Tom Tom uses teleAlas while the Navigon uses Navitech . The older software Navigon did not show your speed but the new one Navigon 4 does. Tom Tom also does have TMC but this needs to be downloaded via GPRS and adds to the cost.
Today ( WooHoo !!! ) I have recieved my software & hardware upgrade to Navigon|4 and as I am travelling these weeks and I will install it in the next few weeks.
I only opted for the upgrade as I can now use the bluetooth GPS reciever when I go cycling or walking.
Funny, when I was making my choice it was between Alturion & Navigon. I chose Navigon as all the right hardware was ready for The MDA II. I have never regreted buying navi software.
:lol:
Thx rafiki, and remember: I'd like to read here ur thoughts about this navi software! Of course, take it easy, do it when u can! I'll appreciate it very much!
Any news about extracting\reading phone numbers and any other type of infos from the electronic maps? :?:
WooHoo !!!! :lol:
A really good piece of software! I installed the navigon 4 yesterday and used all day today. Boy am i happy.
I got:-
Bluetooth ( modular with TMC)
I can see my Speed, atlitude, got a compass , est time of arrival , duration, inclication of road,
3D or bird eye view
perfect sound with my MDA II carkit with mute ( on software)
Adjustable volume
I can type in destinations or touch on the map via touch screen
I van also use voice command for stored destinations
All in all I am very happy!!!!!!
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDAII ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ? :?:
Thx Rafiki!!!
I think i'm gonna buy this software!
@ Jag!
Forgot to mention I work for an Italian Company! :lol:
Navigon comes in standard in 7 languages.
Here is a hand book you can download from Navigon in 7 languages.
http://www.navigon.de/downloads/consumer_products/Short_Manual_7_languages.pdf
also if you visit the site there is a lot of info in English , including screen shots. You can also order via the site.
good luck
Rafiki
Rafiki wrote:
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDA II ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ?
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The XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020/imate all come with Windows Mobile 2003 - PPC2002 is not available for this platform.
@ BRosenow
Thanks mate! :lol:
Now I know which upgrade I need for my navi to make it Navigon 4.01
Regards
Rafiki
TY Rafiki!
Bye!!
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
Don't you need the wired earphones attached for the radio to receive any signals?
most certanly you do,
or at least a spliter (htc usb to audio usb and charge)
Great discovey,
can you post a link to the program's webpage to keep informed on future releases ?
sorry i can't help test it
My cruise is in service, and in romania there isn't any station with tmc
I searched so long for an application like this!!! Is it only working for NL users? Can it also work with iGO8?
thanks
hompage is www.lacasadelgps.com but i can't find any information about the software
a lot of information here
it looks like it is possible to have TMC on normal PDAs. even more it is possible to have TomTom use the TMC data.
After reading the forum I see that it is possible to use TMC in some countries.
This due to the fact that you need "translation tables". these tables "translate" the name of the road (say A12) to map coordinates in TT. It looks these tables are only available for Spain and Italy at the moment.
... and .de and .nl
NeoS2007 said:
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
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DecoRDS's purpose is to decode RDS data received by a GPS-TMC receiver. It decodes the NMEA wrapping, maps the TMC location code to a geographical position using location tables then it send the information to Tomtom.
It does not work as far as I know with HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris internal radio.
You might be right, as i can't seem to get any frequency with a working RDS signal. I have the frequency, but the program doesn't seem to use the internal radio... Bummer. Wonder if it could, only problem is, i don't have any knowledge of programming...
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
DreamCrasher said:
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
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Sure, 40 Euro per year (plus downloading fees) and only working with TomTom.
Great.
Sascha
Borsti99 said:
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
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but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
Wow.. getting this to work on our devices would be awesome!! I wish I had the programming skills to get into this..
too much interestant...
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but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
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It does work with most TMC capable navigation softwares which does not include TomTom (since it does not support TMC)
Sascha
Not true
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
QAN said:
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
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Sorry, but this simply isn't true.
TomTom Go devices are TMC ready but Linux based.
TomTom Naviator isn't TMC ready and Microsoft Windows Mobile based.
Both versions have strictly nothing common (except GUI).
Sascha
NeoS2007 said:
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
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I can't find any TMC signal with this configuration (with italian tables).
I need help!
I can install Garmin XT in HTC Diamond but it didn´t work.
When I try to configure the com port it returns to "none".
select GPS Intermediate Driver instead of a COM port.
The problem is with the GPS hardware port, not with the program port, in HW port can find only com ports.
i have it set to "Use serial GPS" and there are COM4 and COM7 (COM7 is BT)..and when it's set, it shows "COM:4 COM4:"
Garmin GT
Yes, you can install and use Garmin on your HTC Diamond. I'm using this GPS sw. You need to "crack" the sw, and get a serial associated to you device.. I will try to put a doc next weekend (in spanish.. sorry) to install and use de sw..Be patience
The answer is: turn off A-GPS, the GPS with Garmin XT works well now
bujucito said:
I need help!
I can install Garmin XT in HTC Diamond but it didn´t work.
When I try to configure the com port it returns to "none".
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Install Franson gpsgate.This will help.
jrecabarren said:
Yes, you can install and use Garmin on your HTC Diamond. I'm using this GPS sw. You need to "crack" the sw, and get a serial associated to you device.. I will try to put a doc next weekend (in spanish.. sorry) to install and use de sw..Be patience
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this is not warez forum
//nortonnc: have you solved your problem?
I dont need gpsgate anymore because i own legally purchased maps and in this case garmin works with no problem .But i think new Garmin mobile xt V5 work also without garmin gps reciever on Diamond.
I have same problem too, I already installed garmin+map, but it always show searching for satellites, nothing happen, how to config the garmin? and is there any config needed from the phone? plase the answer, thanks.
sorry for my bad english.
Just upgraded my Tomtom 7.450 to 7.9 on the HD and my Australia maps that were working in 7.450 are now not working. Incorrect activation code. Re-install 7.450 and works again.
Should it work?
Also. what are the diff between the two tomtom versions?
where did you get 7.45 and 7.9 ? I cannot install my 7.0 in HD it says that device is not supported
obtaining
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PLEASE NO WAREZ TALKING. You cant tell people where to get that.
Lost MAPS????
Same prob, 7.45 working fine however when I upgrade to 7.9 activation code required, any suggestions??
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Same prob, 7.45 working fine however when I upgrade to 7.9 activation code required, any suggestions??
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No can do legally mate. Only legal way to do it is to buy the new version from TomTom, but they don't sell it for Oz. Catch 22!
The chances are if your unit came with TomTom and Oz/NZ maps, its a hacked (illegal copy).
That would be me, do TomTom charge for the program or the maps? I have switched to Route 66 Navigate 7 which came with an old PDA but I don't want to delete the wrong bit of TomTom.
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Tdo TomTom charge for the program or the maps?
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In theory both are copyright. The maps are the expensive bit, but you can't buy the latest version from TomTom. They are Sensis maps.
The problem could be the maps ... Are you using a v8 map ? v8 maps only work with the 7.450 version ... The 7.9 version can only use v7 maps ...
Tried it myself ...
Let me know ...
I'll keep it all as a backup, just for information, don't bother with Route 66 Mobile 8, it doesn't work well on the Touch and only activates for one device (the old one was three devices).
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In theory both are copyright.
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Not so, all TT software is freely available for download, check the various official fora. Only the maps are protected.
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The problem could be the maps ... Are you using a v8 map ? v8 maps only work with the 7.450 version ... The 7.9 version can only use v7 maps ...
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That may well be the case, but it is completely immaterial. To the best of my knowledge you can not buy a legal copy of TomTom with Oz maps to run on a PDA.
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Not so, all TT software is freely available for download, check the various official fora. Only the maps are protected.
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It doesn't come more official than TomTom's own website and on their site, they charge for the bare TomTom software? http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=145&Category=14&&Lid=4
If you can find it free on their website, I would love to see where it is located.
All the stuff I have seen looks to be either hacked/cracked/or copied. If you know where it is legally available for free, please let us know.
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It doesn't come more official than TomTom's own website and on their site, they charge for the bare TomTom software?
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That's only for NEW software my man, please bare witness to the TomTom Home update procedure which does NOT check or verify serial numbers (as there are none).
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The problem could be the maps ... Are you using a v8 map ? v8 maps only work with the 7.450 version ... The 7.9 version can only use v7 maps ...
Tried it myself ...
Let me know ...
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Not quite so, but the 8.15.2024 maps seem to be the only v8 maps that work for the 7.910
I use v7.910 software with Western Europe 815.2034. There are several more 815.20xx reported to be compatible.
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That's only for NEW software my man, please bare witness to the TomTom Home update procedure which does NOT check or verify serial numbers (as there are none).
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I suggest you read the TomTom End User License Agreement. http://www.tomtom.com/legal/?Page=Eula According to that, the TomTom software is protected by copyright.
To the best of my knowledge, there is a serial number. Its called UniqueID and it is located in the file called ttnavigator.bif The UniqueID (which is hardware related and copied in the hacked files,) and needs to be locked to the map files for it to work. In the hacked copies of TomTom, the UniqueID file is a not a genuine UniqueID.
FWIW, when I downloaded an update for my 710, it did check to make sure there was a previous version before it installed. So, as I understand it, if you install a genuine upgrade it will work (assuming the map is the right version,) but if you try and install "an upgrade" as a first time install, it won't work.
In short, I still believe the TomTom program is copyright and not meant to be downloaded for free on third party sites.
True, the unique ID is used to lock the map to the device, but NOT to lock the software to the device. As for upgrading, without a previous version it wouldn't be an upgrade but something new.
As for the EULA, the first line states "This EULA applies to you if you have acquired the Software outside of the United States and Canada."
Copyright does therefore NOT apply.
There are no licensing fees or activation procedures for TT software.
Please rethink your statement.
danum said:
I use v7.910 software with Western Europe 815.2034. There are several more 815.20xx reported to be compatible.
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Oooh, that's good to know! Is there a definitive list out there somewhere?
I found this a few days ago. Credit to the compiler.
BTW about the EULA, there are two English language versions and both include a copywright.
Did you chose/buy your GPS software or is bundled with your Touch 3G when you bought it.
Mobile XT with Thailand Street Map Version 8.01 is included on installation CD when I bought mine.
My 3G came with Route 66 Iberian Peninsula maps.
I bought IGO 8 for my touch 3G.
TomTom 7.910 with maps 8.15
I got iGO8... for me is the best one.
I use Garmin XT and Mapking2007
Google maps,
- easy
- free
- supported by most HTC models
Mapking 2007, GPS Trainer
iGO 8 The best for me
Mapking 2007
I have MapKing 2007 and G10 on my Mio168
Have it on my Mio.
Unfortunately, they only have Metro Manila (Philippines) covered on the map and not the whole country like Garmin maps, so i didnt bother installing it on my Touch 3G.
But I can say that Mapking is a very good navigation software too if not for the lack of data upgrades
mafiou said:
TomTom 7.910 with maps 8.15
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Same for me.
Navigon MobileNavigator 7
Route 66
and it works very exactly.
SlappyHours said:
Navigon MobileNavigator 7
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how did u set this software? i tried the try&pay version for free, but the software do not recognize the internal gps...
shall i have to set something?
Garmin Mobile XT
TomTom v7.9 with 815 maps
Garmin Mobile XT V5
IL_mante said:
how did u set this software? i tried the try&pay version for free, but the software do not recognize the internal gps...
shall i have to set something?
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With the following settings it worked without problems:
Normal GPS
COM 4
4800 Baud
But just like any other GPS software, it takes time till you get a fix
mafiou said:
TomTom 7.910 with maps 8.15
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idem
same soft
What version do you have?
Tee3D said:
Garmin Mobile XT
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I have version 4.20