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According to Skype the Minimum spec for skype to work with a pocket PC is 400mhz.
So it makes my think. Will it realy work well if it does work? I mean skype on there website say :
in order to use Skype for Pocket PC, your handheld must meet the following minimum system requirements:
* Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC
* 400 MHz processor
* WiFi-enabled
The XDA Mini pro is :
- Operating system Pocket PC " OK "
- Main processor type Texas Instrument OMAP 850 processor " Mmm"
- Main processor speed 195 MHz " I Dont think so , Well below half speed"
- RAM 64 MB
Ect..
You know what am thinking. It make me think are they meaning to do this so they can sell, make money and then later get one out at the orignal or faster processor.
Any advise or better confermation of skype actually working on the mini Pro would clear my mind and i would not think twice about getting it.
If it works with the processor being a fast bus speed or core speed or something to then runs Skypeat a usable level, Am definatly getting one !!
what you think or shall we just wait a few more days for someone to actully try skype on it. " I think al wait"
Yes it works, see: http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/archive/2005/09/22/472831.aspx#473362
and
http://blogs.technet.com/windowsmobile4partners/archive/2005/09/24/411507.aspx
Thanks for the reply !!
According to the sites you have posed. i feel confident in buying one now, for skype !
even if not for skype. i would get one for sat nav and everything else.
Best all in one gadget i have came across!!!
Thanks again !
Hello,
I'm planning to buy a new pocket pc, my choice would be the qtek9100 or the qtek2020i. I've spend a lot of time reading and comparing, and need to know some information from the people who own a qtek9100.
1) Is the qtek9100 able to playback mp3 and run tomtom5 at the same time? I'm asking this because of the omap 850 (ti) cpu and the 64 mb internal memory, I know the omap has a different architecture then the xscale (intel) cpu and can not be compared butt when I use the device in my car I want it to be able to playback mp3 and show navigation at the same time.
3) Is it possible to use skype? Because the minimum requirments of skype is based on 400mhz intel cpu, I don't know how much the omap scores on the intel mhz scale.
2) Is it possible to playback video, without dropping frames?
I have serious doubts about the performace of the 9100 for the things I want to use the device. Any comments from owners would be welcome.
Does anyone know if its possible to put wm5 on qtek2020i? I tought I had read that wm5 is universal and works on any pda, just a matter of drivers.
Greetz
Robin
Has anyone seen or noted any differences between Omapclock and XCPUSCalar for overclocking the MDA? Obviously XPCU is not free, but I'm curious if anyone has gotten better/different results between them. The newest version, 2.93, claims MDA support.
I just checked the website and it only works with the MDA Compact which is different than the MDA Vario.. so XCPUSCalar does not work with HTC Wizard devices..
MDA Vario is not using an XSCALE processor is it?
XCUScalar
We have no choice but to use Omapclock. Wizard uses TI OMAP processor !! not Intel Xscale.
I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?
fbueller said:
I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?
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The Texas Instruments OMAP & the Intel Xscale are both ARM based processors.
you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter
peter_altherr said:
you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter
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Cheers. I do realise that though. I was replying to the previous post asking why ARM apps in general can run on the MDA, by saying that the OMAP & Xscale are both ARM, therefore ARM apps can run on the MDA.
sorry for asking a dumb question but whats the advatange's of over clocking....my Vario runs at 195 tops and I've never seen it run slow....even after playing games and 6hours of mp3 music playing...
if you overclock the speed doesnt that mean the phone gets very hot and may cause internal damange to delicate chips etc?
:?:
If you don't have a problem with the device running slow, then I don't think you need to worry about overclocking.
I use my Wizard for all kinds of media and I find that overclocking it helps performance in that respect.
your lucky, most of us have to overclock to make the thing useable
must be the tmobile crap cos mine takes about 2 minutes to boot up as well :x
well my boot time takes ages cos of spb weather+today plug ins and windows media plug ins....but i can use my device and the only thing that slows it done with me noticing is active sync...
I brought this up.... because the latest XCPUScalar 2007 supports OMAP.
Wondering of anyone has tried it. If i'm not mistaken, i think it has a feature wherein it will step-up and step-down the proc based on load.
http://www.immiersoft.com/index.html
I am using XCPUScalar 3.0 and it is quite good. It is more user friendly than Omapscaler.
It can put cpu meters both on tray or taskbar, so you can see the current speed and tap to make changes.
I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!
aZooZa said:
I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!
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Quick Question!! Does your Bluetooth work if you set the step to 420MHz or faster?
That's one thing I forgot to mention. Turning BT on and off is very hit and miss. Didn't notice if it was at a set speed, but yes, I had problems with BT.
Nobody tried PHM with Trinity?
miss calls
I have the same Problem. My Trinity misses calls & SMS when I set a speed different from 400Mhz.
Does anyone know why this is happening ?
I keep trying Tomov's forum but it's always down. This is very frustrating. The 450Mhz option makes Skype useable but surely this Samsung processor can be clocked higher than 450Mhz? Then maybe my TCPMP .avi movie collection would be without stutter.
Also, I have a question: Once you run PHM and set a CPU speed, does that speed stay current even if you dismiss PHM, or do you have to minimise PHM to keep the CPU settings?
TIA!
Any help here would really be appreciated.
Hi,
I'm using XCPUScalar2007 with auto-scale function and I don't miss calls or sms at all (tried many times in different configurations).
I set the auto-scale as follow:
100Mhz up to 15% of CPU load
300Mhz to 40%
400Mhz to 70%
472Mhz from 71 to 100%.
With XCPUScalar, the highest possible frequency is 500Mhz.
I did not had time to test this settings with a BT headset, but BT activation is ok, and no visible problem with my BT GPS receiver (holux GPSlim 236).
Thanks very much bynico92! I didn't think XCPUScalar was compatible with Samsung - but obviously so! I will give it a go.
Well, I have purchased and installed XCPUScalar and it appears to be working fine, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it doesn't actually do anything.
I say this, because viewing a movie in Core Player (TCPMP) at 100Mhz gives the same viewing experience as with 472Mhz.
Anyone else?
I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.
andilein said:
I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.
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Thanks for the confirmation! In fact, the Samsung CPU in the Trinity is not listed as supported by XCPUScalar anywhere where that software marketed or promoted. Pocket Hack Master is useless also despite being marketed as 'compatible'.
Anyone using a clock speed app successfully on the Trinity?
Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!
aZooZa said:
Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!
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I guess you're not getting any response. As far as I know, people have overclocked the Trinity, but there has always been some bad side effects. Maybe with a new ROM it will work better??
It doens't work for me too. I tried PHM an XCPUScalar. Benchmarks are always the same.
I saw this one on ebay, supposedly it is a 200 mhz P660 upgraded to a 624 Mhz CPU and WiFi enabled. I do note that the detailed description says WLAN: NO.
Anyone know about this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COOL-P660-P...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:16|39:1|240:1318
From the listing:
NOTE: Main Features
1. Built in WiFi
2. 200MHZ CPU updated to 624MHZ CPU
3. 5 ways buttons(no the Wheel button)
4. Tri-band GSM 900/1800/1900MHZ
6. Can install Android OS
7. Built in GPS,supports iGO Australian Maps
8. include 2GB TF/supports Max 8GB TF memory Card(Cost more 30AU)
General 2G Network GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Announced 2009, February
Status Available. Released 2009, February
Size Dimensions 108 x 58.3 x 15.7 mm
Weight 122 g
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches
- Handwriting recognition
Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3
Customization Download, order now
Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Card slot microSD (TransFlash),
- 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
- PXA 310, 624 Mhz processor
Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
HSCSD No
EDGE No
3G No
WLAN No
Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP
Infrared port No
USB Yes, miniUSB
Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML (PocketIE)
Games Yes, order now
Colors Black
Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels, video, macro
- Built-in GPS
- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF viewer)
- Java MIDP 2.0
- Voice memo
- MP3/AAC player
- Video/audio album
- Built-in handsfree
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1100 mAh
Stand-by Up to 240 h
Talk time Up to 5 h 50 min
This phone is not made by HTC.
larrychen629 said:
This phone is not made by HTC.
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If you take a look at it, it comes from the 3470 (or rather, the P660). I think that they have removed the CPU and replaced it with a faster one.
Those pictures are a P660/P3470, there can be no question.
its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599
avathar behemoth said:
its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599
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I realize that the Dopod 660 is the same as the P3470, and it has the same Specs.
But the Ebay add specifically said that they had upgraded the OMAP to a different CPU, and that WiFi was enabled. I asked the seller about this.
what did the seller say about it?
avathar behemoth said:
what did the seller say about it?
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He said it was "OEM" and that the CPU was indeed fast (presumably no longer the OMAP850), and that WiFi was present. I wasn't interested in buying one, so I didn't ask about the language (English, I guess, the auction was in AU $), warranty, etc.
very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone
avathar behemoth said:
very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone
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I think they just swapped out the CPU and added drivers for the WiFi. The external form factor and the other specifications are identical to the P660 / P3470.
Either they licensed the design from HTC, or they "borrowed" it. Or maybe HTC is building them for another company - HTC often does that, although it is usually common knowledge when this happens.
euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!
avathar behemoth said:
euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!
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There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.
stevedebi said:
There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.
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hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!
avathar behemoth said:
hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!
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The items are no longer for auction on ebay (the auctions ended, and no more are listed). I'm not entirely sure it wasn't a scam anyway; the item was from Hong Kong, but the listing was in AU $. It seemed funny to me, not to mention that the device was obviously a P3470 case and specification - except for the CPU and WiFi.
This is an awsome Phone!!!!!!
Well for a noob like myself I think it is. This phone is also considered a V990.
It has Windows Mobile 6 Pro / CE os 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2). with a PXA310 @ 624MHZ, 256/128. It's also VERY affordable. I have no clue as to what the OS is compatable to OEM, Cooked, or other OS could replace it. any info on this would be greatly appreciated by far. Thanks in advanced for any info and I hope this phone does alot better than the DAXIAN X999+
of course
yes it has WIFI too
if it does have the PXA processor then its a significantly different phone than the p3470...so much for getting that rom ...
so i've got this phone, it says it has 624mhz cpu and wifi is working
if you want it's rom, pictures or screenshots - just tell me how to do it
Hello:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
Thank you!
chinese phone
xmdan said:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
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've got it from here http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=2465